roman versus arabic
Posted By: sadie on 2008-07-08
In Reply to: roman versus arabic - sm
Subject: roman versus arabic
A good tip that I rcvd either here or on MTNetizens email group.....
In oncology at least:
Staging is in Roman numerals, and remember by reciting "The Romans are on the stage"....
Hence stage III breast cancer, etcetera...
Class, grade, etc, are with Arabic numerals...
I cannot speak, though, for other specialties..
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roman versus arabic
Subject: roman versus arabic
Does anyone have a good reference or way to remember when to use arabic versus roman numerals? Specifically for class, stage, grade - cardiac, oncology, podiatry?
Stages = Roman; Grades = Arabic --- all per the
Subject: Stages = Roman; Grades = Arabic --- all per the
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grade would be arabic, type would be roman.
Subject: grade would be arabic, type would be roman.
Garden is capped per my ortho book.
From googling I suspect it should be Garden type IV fracture. There are hits where it is referred to as grade, but the ones that call it a type look more authentic to me. More research might be in order.
most of the time grades are Arabic and classes are Roman, but I'm sure there are exceptions to th
Subject: most of the time grades are Arabic and classes are Roman, but I'm sure there are exceptions to that NM
jGrade is arabic such as grade 1, and stages are Roman numerals.
Subject: jGrade is arabic such as grade 1, and stages are Roman numerals.
III (stages and classes are Roman numerals, grades are Arabic) nm
Subject: III (stages and classes are Roman numerals, grades are Arabic) nm
Grades are arabic numbers and classes and stages are roman numerals.
Subject: Grades are arabic numbers and classes and stages are roman numerals.
I was always taught that types & grades are arabic and classes & stages are Roman numerals. nm
Subject: I was always taught that types & grades are arabic and classes & stages are Roman numerals. nm
numbers - type out versus arabic
Question: What is the rule of thumb: In a report I know it is in medication and measurements like 5 mg and 5 inches. But what about in dictation? 5 weeks or five weeks, 5 children or five children. I know BOS changed their policy on using more arabic numbers instead of typing out. Can someone advise what is the preferred way? Does it apply something to things or objects versus units of time like 5 weeks or 5 days? Thank you.
I mean arabic 11 (not 2)
Subject: I mean arabic 11 (not 2)
nm
BOS-2 - arabic.
Subject: BOS-2 - arabic.
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Arabic numbers ..
Subject: Arabic numbers ..
Go to this website and click on About BI-RADS (just under the tutorial button in the middle of the page):
http://www.birads.at/
Hope this helps.
Grades are arabic such as 1 or 2.
Subject: Grades are arabic such as 1 or 2.
Stages are roman numerals.
Arabic (per AAMT BOS)
Subject: Arabic (per AAMT BOS)
grades are arabic.
Subject: grades are arabic.
Grades are arabic.
Subject: Grades are arabic.
x
Arabic numerals.
Subject: Arabic numerals.
x
Guess I should say "should" be arabic..
Subject: Guess I should say "should" be arabic..
now "always"...before I offend someone else who has been told to type it with roman numerals. Been doing this too long and have seen too many facilities/radiologists set their own rules on how they want it typed and it basically boils down to the fact that it's their report..they call the shots.
We are supposed to type arabic now but SM
Subject: We are supposed to type arabic now but SM
I think it is account specific. Many docs and hospitals still prefer the roman numerals, and I think it looks better too, IMO.
Grade 2 (arabic for grades)
Subject: Grade 2 (arabic for grades)
regarding class #, per client--we use arabic
Subject: regarding class #, per client--we use arabic
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it is probably 2, usually Arabic numerals w/grades, but that is JMO NM
Subject: it is probably 2, usually Arabic numerals w/grades, but that is JMO NM
Use arabic numerals for all numbers.
Subject: Use arabic numerals for all numbers.
The current standard in transcription is to use arabic numerals (1, 2, 3...)for all numbers, even under the number 10, because they stand out on the page and are less likely to be overlooked or misinterpreted.
(BOS 3rd)
Use arabic numbers for grade, per BOS,,,,,,,,,nm
Subject: Use arabic numbers for grade, per BOS,,,,,,,,,nm
nm
BOS prefers arabic numbers unless for
Subject: BOS prefers arabic numbers unless for
certain diseases or stages of cancer.
it's arabic numbers today, no spelling out....
Subject: it's arabic numbers today, no spelling out....
grade 4. All grades are arabic. Fractures and
Subject: grade 4. All grades are arabic. Fractures and
stages are Roman numerals.
Actually, they're broader than that, saying to use Arabic "except...." sm
Subject: Actually, they're broader than that, saying to use Arabic "except...." sm
...except when Roman numerals are used as part of the established nomenclature. (So things like cranial nerves and other scores/scales can be in either, or as dictated by standard practice.)
i've always typed BI-RADS with arabic numbers
Subject: i've always typed BI-RADS with arabic numbers
jk
for the most part grade and type use arabic number
Subject: for the most part grade and type use arabic number
roman
Subject: roman
Roman - nm
Subject: Roman - nm
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roman
Subject: roman
thanks
Been typing rad for yrs and have never used roman..
Subject: Been typing rad for yrs and have never used roman..
numerals. Always arabic.
However, you will see a variation on the typing of BIRADS depending on who you are typing it for. The copyright lists it as BI-RADS, federal guidlines are supposed to dictate how it is typed but have worked for numerous centers that type it anywhere from BIRADS to BI-RADS to BiRADS. Categories however should always be arabic (1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 0)
That's what I said: Stages = Roman. ???
Subject: That's what I said: Stages = Roman. ???
nm
Have always seen it as Roman numerals. nm
Subject: Have always seen it as Roman numerals. nm
Used to be roman numerals, now it is 2/6.
Subject: Used to be roman numerals, now it is 2/6.
NP does not know transcription rules.
Roman numerals not used much today...nm
Subject: Roman numerals not used much today...nm
x
The letter "I" is roman numeral 1
Subject: The letter "I" is roman numeral 1
NM
Believe it's Hartmann I (Roman numeral). nm
Subject: Believe it's Hartmann I (Roman numeral). nm
x
as I know it all stages are in roman numerals
Subject: as I know it all stages are in roman numerals
I've always used Roman Numerals.
Subject: I've always used Roman Numerals.
A good example are Salter-Harris fracture values which are always Roman Numerals.
I believe the type is in Roman numerals II nm
Subject: I believe the type is in Roman numerals II nm
nm
grades use 1, 2, 3...stages use Roman
Subject: grades use 1, 2, 3...stages use Roman
x
Through Wheeless it would be Roman numerals.
Subject: Through Wheeless it would be Roman numerals.
When I started, it was Roman Numerals
Subject: When I started, it was Roman Numerals
That was 30 years ago. Now they prefer Arabic numerals. I was rather disappointed; it was one of the few times you could trot out Roman numerals!
Roman numerals for stages are used
Subject: Roman numerals for stages are used
only for cancer the majority of the time. There are some exceptions, but the majority of the time it is roman numerals. For example, kidney disease is arabic, fractures are arabic. If it is not associated with cancer then it is more than likely arabic. You can always look it up and tell which is which, which is BOS2 suggests.
Certain conditions, etc. still use roman numerals
Subject: Certain conditions, etc. still use roman numerals
x
Factors are written in roman numerals
Subject: Factors are written in roman numerals
I found this on google and in Vera Pyle's Current Medical Terminology. This is a great book. I have found a lot in here.
grades are numerals, stages always Roman
Subject: grades are numerals, stages always Roman
stage II-A but I don't know anything about that little *y* you left there - so I'd give them a blank there.........
stages are always roman numerals and grades are always numbers
stage IV, grade 4
Hope this helps somewhat - I've been doing oncology for 20 years..........next year....but MT'g for much longer *lol*
Schatzker II fracture (Roman numerals for this)
Subject: Schatzker II fracture (Roman numerals for this)
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