pleural form of compound nouns
Posted By: gmw on 2009-02-22
In Reply to: I've seen it as globi AND globus pallidi. Go with what doc says. - MT
Subject: pleural form of compound nouns
the pleural form of noun phrases is generally to pleuralize the first component and leave the second component singular, e.g. statues of liberty, bills of lading, and - extrapolating - globi pallidus... note, this is merely speculation.
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Webster's says pleural form is ...
Subject: Webster's says pleural form is ...
apparatuses or apparatus. Have never seen a doc that didn't try to make up his own form of word from time to time either though...so if your account states strictly verbatim without the ability to correct grammar even when you know it's incorrect then I would type what he says.
I believe contrast media is the pleural form of a single agent contrast medium?
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in this instance they are being used as proper nouns and should be capped. NM
Subject: in this instance they are being used as proper nouns and should be capped. NM
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yes, those are both compound adjectives (nm)
Subject: yes, those are both compound adjectives (nm)
compound modifier.....sm
Subject: compound modifier.....sm
Not all words that are placed in front of a noun are compound adjectives or compound modifier and need a hyphen.
This would be too easy!
You hyphenate when it is a compound modifier sm
Subject: You hyphenate when it is a compound modifier sm
I know that MT50 says when it is an adjective and she is right, but I think it is better to give you the compound modifier rule instead.
You hyphenate before the noun in the sentence, but not after.
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couldn't find compound but
Subject: couldn't find compound but
after reading the above discussion did find neural and the following statement in my office's edition of Stedman's Med Dict.
Avoid forming incorrect compounds, such as neuroformamina instead of n. foramina.
I've been doing it wrong all along. Thanks for helping me clear this up.
Since ipsi- means same, maybe is it just a compound word. nm
Subject: Since ipsi- means same, maybe is it just a compound word. nm
compound modifiers preceding the subject
Subject: compound modifiers preceding the subject
When the following phrase is dictated:
"He is a well nourished appearing patient,"
What is the most appropriate transcript format? With, or without hyphens? One of our staff Doc.s keeps dictating this phrase and we are stumped. Of course, this one phrase does not appear to be in BOS!
Thanks for your help!
Also when used as a compound modifier describing a noun or pronoun, it is follow-up - sm
Subject: Also when used as a compound modifier describing a noun or pronoun, it is follow-up - sm
For example, follow-up MRI or follow-up examination. I hope this helps you!
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Subject: only hyphenate when used as a compound modified, like beta-blocker therapy, but if
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