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heart murmur with roman numerals?

Posted By: LHMT on 2008-12-27
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I have always typed heart murmur (ex: 2/6 ejection murmur).  However, I have a new NP who states it using roman numerals (II/VI ejection murmur).  Which is correct?  Thanks!


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