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aren't leads in Roman numerals?

Posted By: lead IV? curious question only...n/m on 2007-12-17
In Reply to: baseline wandering lead 4. - MT50

Subject: aren't leads in Roman numerals?

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leads = Roman numerals if I remember correctly
Subject: leads = Roman numerals if I remember correctly


Standard leads are typically denoted by roman numerals.
Subject: Standard leads are typically denoted by roman numerals.


All data that I can find on ECT leads (not EKG leads) are in arabic numerals.
Subject: All data that I can find on ECT leads (not EKG leads) are in arabic numerals.


Have always seen it as Roman numerals. nm
Subject: Have always seen it as Roman numerals. nm


Used to be roman numerals, now it is 2/6.
Subject: Used to be roman numerals, now it is 2/6.

NP does not know transcription rules.
Roman numerals not used much today...nm
Subject: Roman numerals not used much today...nm

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as I know it all stages are in roman numerals
Subject: as I know it all stages are in roman numerals


I've always used Roman Numerals.
Subject: I've always used Roman Numerals.

A good example are Salter-Harris fracture values which are always Roman Numerals.


I believe the type is in Roman numerals II nm
Subject: I believe the type is in Roman numerals II nm

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Through Wheeless it would be Roman numerals.
Subject: Through Wheeless it would be Roman numerals.


When I started, it was Roman Numerals
Subject: When I started, it was Roman Numerals

That was 30 years ago. Now they prefer Arabic numerals. I was rather disappointed; it was one of the few times you could trot out Roman numerals!

Roman numerals for stages are used
Subject: Roman numerals for stages are used

only for cancer the majority of the time. There are some exceptions, but the majority of the time it is roman numerals. For example, kidney disease is arabic, fractures are arabic. If it is not associated with cancer then it is more than likely arabic. You can always look it up and tell which is which, which is BOS2 suggests.
Certain conditions, etc. still use roman numerals
Subject: Certain conditions, etc. still use roman numerals

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Factors are written in roman numerals
Subject: Factors are written in roman numerals

I found this on google and in Vera Pyle's Current Medical Terminology. This is a great book. I have found a lot in here.
grades are numerals, stages always Roman
Subject: grades are numerals, stages always Roman

stage II-A but I don't know anything about that little *y* you left there - so I'd give them a blank there.........


stages are always roman numerals and grades are always numbers


stage IV, grade 4


Hope this helps somewhat - I've been doing oncology for 20 years..........next year....but MT'g for much longer  *lol*


Schatzker II fracture (Roman numerals for this)
Subject: Schatzker II fracture (Roman numerals for this)

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TIMI III (roman numerals) flow.......nm
Subject: TIMI III (roman numerals) flow.......nm

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Cranial nerves are roman numerals II-XII. (nm)
Subject: Cranial nerves are roman numerals II-XII. (nm)

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Stedman's says Roman numerals, such as Gravida I
Subject: Stedman's says Roman numerals, such as Gravida I


Not all stages are roman numerals, depends.
Subject: Not all stages are roman numerals, depends.

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heart murmur with roman numerals?
Subject: heart murmur with roman numerals?

I have always typed heart murmur (ex: 2/6 ejection murmur).  However, I have a new NP who states it using roman numerals (II/VI ejection murmur).  Which is correct?  Thanks!
Not sure, but cranial nerves are Roman numerals.
Subject: Not sure, but cranial nerves are Roman numerals.

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grade 2 to 3 (grades are roman numerals).
Subject: grade 2 to 3 (grades are roman numerals).

Beaking is correct. I usually use a hyphen for in-between.
grade 2 to 3 (grades are roman numerals).
Subject: grade 2 to 3 (grades are roman numerals).

Beaking is correct. I usually use a hyphen for in-between.
grades = numbers; stages = Roman numerals....
Subject: grades = numbers; stages = Roman numerals....


Wrong. Not all stages are roman numerals anymore.
Subject: Wrong. Not all stages are roman numerals anymore.

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jGrade is arabic such as grade 1, and stages are Roman numerals.
Subject: jGrade is arabic such as grade 1, and stages are Roman numerals.


III (stages and classes are Roman numerals, grades are Arabic) nm
Subject: III (stages and classes are Roman numerals, grades are Arabic) nm


A search of several web sites shows staging with numbers, not Roman numerals. nm
Subject: A search of several web sites shows staging with numbers, not Roman numerals. nm

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Grades are arabic numbers and classes and stages are roman numerals.
Subject: Grades are arabic numbers and classes and stages are roman numerals.


I was always taught that types & grades are arabic and classes & stages are Roman numerals. nm
Subject: I was always taught that types & grades are arabic and classes & stages are Roman numerals. nm


FIGO staging is typed using roman numerals, such as FIGO I, II, etc., see inside.
Subject: FIGO staging is typed using roman numerals, such as FIGO I, II, etc., see inside.

Table 2: Carcinoma of the Vulva – Stage grouping
FIGO UICC
Stage T N M
0 Tis N0 M0
IA T1A N0 M0
IB T1B N0 M0
II T2 N0 M0
III T1 N1 M0
T2 N1 M0
T3 N1 M0
IVA T1 N2 M0
T2 N2 M0
T3 N2 M0
T4 Any N M0
IVB Any T Any N M1
1.1.2.3 Histopathologic types.
Squamous cell carcinoma is the most frequent form of cancer of the
vulva. Malignant melanoma is the second most common tumour and
should be reported separately. Other histopathologic types are:
– adenocarcinoma underlying Paget’s disease of vulva, verrucous
carcinoma, Bartholin gland carcinoma, adenocarcinoma not otherwise
specified (NOS), basal cell carcinoma.
• Histopathologic grades (G).
• Gx – Grade cannot be assessed;
• Gl – Well-differentiated;
• G2 – Moderately differentiated;
• G3 – Poorly or undifferentiated.

www.figo.org/docs/staging_booklet.pdf
Roman numerals, but "lead" would be "Lead"
Subject: Roman numerals, but "lead" would be "Lead"

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There are A-leads and V-leads sm
Subject: There are A-leads and V-leads sm

and in this case the patient has broken his or her A-lead.
leads I, II, III, V1, V2, V3, aVL, aVF
Subject: leads I, II, III, V1, V2, V3, aVL, aVF

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Leads II and F
Subject: Leads II and F

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Leads - I, II, III; Lead V3, V4, etc.
Subject: Leads - I, II, III; Lead V3, V4, etc.

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see this for a list of leads
Subject: see this for a list of leads

http://www.mt911.com/site/cardiology/cardio_ecg_lead.asp
"Q waves in leads II, III, and aVF?" or sm
Subject: "Q waves in leads II, III, and aVF?" or sm

He/she could just be saying "Q waves in II, III, and aVF." Perhaps?
Don't think so, leads is very clear. Thx tho.
Subject: Don't think so, leads is very clear. Thx tho.


I tried to listen for that, but could not get that at all. It s/l like either BDL or VDL leads.
Subject: I tried to listen for that, but could not get that at all. It s/l like either BDL or VDL leads.


which leads to dry cough?
Subject: which leads to dry cough?


first thought is lateral leads. nm
Subject: first thought is lateral leads. nm


Refs for you regarding lateral leads. sm
Subject: Refs for you regarding lateral leads. sm


  • Brugada Syndrome with ST-Segment Elevation in the Lateral Leads


    able within a single individual and may change within a short period of time. The ST-segment elevation in the lateral leads ...
    www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1540-8167.2006.00525.x?ai=3sd&mi=1r5wa&af=A - Similar pages


  • Journal of Electrocardiology : “Pseudo-high lateral leads Brugada ...


    Aug 23, 2008 ... 3 M.P. Van Den Berg and A.C.P. Wiesfeld, Brugada syndrome with ST-segment elevation in the lateral leads, J Cardiovasc Electrophysiol

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    Subject: No, those aren't it, but thank you.

    No, he's not saying electrocoagulation, though it does sound like something similar to that because he sounds like it's a device for cutting or method of cutting.  He says it twice in the report, and both times, it sounds like ahkupuration.  I tried various spellings including beginning with ac, acq, oq, ok, and anything else I could think of, but I'm still stumped.  It has my proofer stumped too.
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    Subject: Thanks! Growly doctor - think he said uh-h-h lateral leads! (nm)


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    Subject: Aren't you a SWEETHEART!!! T.Y....sm

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    Subject: you are quite the b*itch, aren't you?


    Cardiology help auscole active fixation leads?
    Subject: Cardiology help auscole active fixation leads?

    s/l auscole active fixation leads


    Active fixation leads were utilized in both the atrium and the ventricle which were both auscole active fixation leads. 


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    Subject: aren't you hearing HPV instead of ASPD?

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    I think those are backwards aren't they? Could be wrong
    Subject: I think those are backwards aren't they? Could be wrong