Why aren't students allowed to ask questions?
Posted By: confused on 2007-03-23
In Reply to: I don't think students are supposed to - Me
Subject: Why aren't students allowed to ask questions?
From what I understand anyone can ask a question, including doctors, nurses, techs, etc. I don't understand why you are telling the OP she cannot ask a question here? 
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Students cannot ask TEST QUESTIONS. Asking for help otherwise
Subject: Students cannot ask TEST QUESTIONS. Asking for help otherwise
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Test questions are not allowed here.
Subject: Test questions are not allowed here.
If I remember correctly, test questions are not allowed on this board. You must pass the test on your own merits.
Whoa! Not allowed to ask innocent questions here?
Subject: Whoa! Not allowed to ask innocent questions here?
Veddy interesting.
Are test questions allowed on the Word Board?
Subject: Are test questions allowed on the Word Board?
Just wondering, for future reference. :)
students
Subject: students
I'm going to open up a can of worms here...
Just wondering thoughts on students posting for word help on this board. I have not been on this forum that long myself, but found it several months ago as I was working my way through the last of my MT coursework. While it was nice to have access to past posts for hints and clues, I used it as a resource much the same as the rest of the internet - not a way for someone else to tell me the answer, but just a way to help me find it myself by searching past posts. Just like I wouldn't have gone to wikianswers and posed a question I should research myself, I wouldn't post a question here when I could do the research myself.
It seems to me that recently I have been seeing a lot of students asking for answers that are actually quite easily found with a simple search on Yahoo or Google. I even saw one post where the person downright admitted they were working on an exam and wanted someone to give them an answer. Myself, I feel that I am a better transcriptionist for having researched everything for myself when I was a student. Now that I am working, however, I am grateful for this forum! I also know that sometimes even plain English is hard to understand with some dictators, and it is wonderful to be able to use fellow MTs as a sounding board and source of wisdom when I just can't find the answer myself. Therefore, I don't want to sound like a hypocrite about using this forum as a resource.
So, what are your thoughts, working MTs, on students posting for word help, especially when one can find the answer with a simple search?
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Students
Subject: Students
I don't see a problem with it myself. Whether they ask here or Google, they will still come up with an answer. I think it would be easier to remember things if you had researched and done the necessary reading rather than have an answer thrown at you but we are all different and learn in different ways. IMHO, a student may as well do the research first because, even when getting an answer here, it would be best to check them out and you still wind up doing the research anyway. It would seem like double the work. But that's my take. :-)
I don't think students are supposed to
Subject: I don't think students are supposed to
ask their questions here though.
I agree, but it is not only students. Many
Subject: I agree, but it is not only students. Many
answers could be found much faster than waiting on someone to give it to you by using google or some of the excellent medical sites that are available. Personally, I still use my Stedman's reference books. On a lot of things, books are a lot quicker when looking for something specific, rather than wading through all the possibilities you find on the internet. New MTs apparently don't buy books anymore and others are just waiting for people to give them the answer. I started when there was no internet and books were all we had.
I don't think MT students are encouraged to use book.
Subject: I don't think MT students are encouraged to use book.
Most of the newbies I see don't really have any reference books. Seems they rely entirely on the Internet and want to Google everything. That's fine and it is fast. But one day a newbie was working on tapes in the office and the Internet went down. OMG!! She panicked! She was totally lost, but funny thing . . . it never once occurred to her to pick up a reference book, even though we have a full set of Stedman Word Books, Dorland's, and brand new drug books in the office. I do use Google, but there's times when you really need a book.
That's how we were told to remember it as nursing students
Subject: That's how we were told to remember it as nursing students
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If you weren't provided with a list of students' names, sm
Subject: If you weren't provided with a list of students' names, sm
ask your QA for help.
No, those aren't it, but thank you.
Subject: No, those aren't it, but thank you.
No, he's not saying electrocoagulation, though it does sound like something similar to that because he sounds like it's a device for cutting or method of cutting. He says it twice in the report, and both times, it sounds like ahkupuration. I tried various spellings including beginning with ac, acq, oq, ok, and anything else I could think of, but I'm still stumped. It has my proofer stumped too.
Aren't you a SWEETHEART!!! T.Y....sm
Subject: Aren't you a SWEETHEART!!! T.Y....sm
Thank you for all that wonderful info!!! I don't have to check with my friend now when she returns!!! I copied what you posted and sent it to myself in an email. Thanks again, a real sweetheart!!! 
you are quite the b*itch, aren't you?
Subject: you are quite the b*itch, aren't you?
aren't you hearing HPV instead of ASPD?
Subject: aren't you hearing HPV instead of ASPD?
usually ASCUS HPV-negative or -positive
I think those are backwards aren't they? Could be wrong
Subject: I think those are backwards aren't they? Could be wrong
They did a cadaver...Hey now, aren't there laws
Subject: They did a cadaver...Hey now, aren't there laws
that sort of Tom foolery  Seriously though, you are a total whiz at this stuff and if you can't figure it out they must be really mangling whatever they are trying to say.
I did find "caudal laminectomy" though, but it doesn't sound nuthin' like cadaver. Ew.
No question is "stupid." It's the ones that aren't
Subject: No question is "stupid." It's the ones that aren't
and should be that are.
Docs aren't always right. (shocking, I know)
Subject: Docs aren't always right. (shocking, I know)
Stedmans ENT book says naris for single, nares for plural.
You are a condescending creature aren't you?
Subject: You are a condescending creature aren't you?
Please tell me where this word is published? It's not in any of my dictionaries or word books. Just because you have may have heard it before doesn't make it gospel.
We aren't taking the test; you are.
Subject: We aren't taking the test; you are.
That's the way tests are.
Good luck.
I didn't think they allowed it on
Subject: I didn't think they allowed it on
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How many times allowed help?
Subject: How many times allowed help?
She has a combination of s/l kramedonol acne and acne rosacea.
Thanks- I will make this one my last for tonight! - Thanks
Is q.a.c. allowed in any form?
Subject: Is q.a.c. allowed in any form?
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nope - not allowed....
Subject: nope - not allowed....
True, it is in all what you are allowed or not
Subject: True, it is in all what you are allowed or not
allowed to do. However, at one of the first hospitals I worked for (back in the early 80s) for example, we had a doctor who was constantly using abbreviations which we were not allowed to do in diagnosis. I will NEVER forget this. His diagnosis was "P.M.S.O.B." The transcriptionist, of course, changed this in the diagnosis to read "Shortness of breath at night." He flew off the handle - this abbreviation meant "poor, miserable, son of a B****" and that is what he wanted in the chart. It was referred to the Hospital Director who told our department manager that even though this was definitely not correct, he dictated it and wanted it there and there was not much we could do about it if we wanted to keep our jobs. This is a lesson that taught me never to second guess a physician. Granted this was not at all politically correct (we didn't have that term back then), but that is what he wanted, so I don't change anything in that vein - I may question it and flag it for the higher ups, but I don't change it.
aren't leads in Roman numerals?
Subject: aren't leads in Roman numerals?
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I think Anna's got it! Sometimes the ears aren't hearing clearly
Subject: I think Anna's got it! Sometimes the ears aren't hearing clearly
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Aren't AP, lateral, and oblique adjectives?
Subject: Aren't AP, lateral, and oblique adjectives?
Aren't "AP, lateral, and oblique" adjectives? If so, then "views" would be the inferred subject and would therefore make the verb plural.
Docs aren't very good at spelling sometimes. I go
Subject: Docs aren't very good at spelling sometimes. I go
with what I know to be correct, even if they spell it - sometimes it would be easier if they didn't spell it at all, because then we have to question it!
so only Americans are allowed to post on here? nm
Subject: so only Americans are allowed to post on here? nm
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Headings are allowed to be added.
Subject: Headings are allowed to be added.
It would look weird without a heading. Thanks.
I am allowed to edit and correct
Subject: I am allowed to edit and correct
I am allowed to make changes to what he says, which is why I asked the question. I am allowed to edit and change what the doctor says and how he says it - and I do a lot of that in the course of the day because some of the things he says are just a mess. "Retarded" did seem a little derogatory to me and I think I will put it in better terms than that.
I guess it comes down to what the rules are that you work by - whether you can edit or if you are verbatim. If it was verbatim I wouldn't have questioned it (even thought I personally feel it is insulting) but since I have the option to change it, I was just wondering what the correct term was now because I know it keeps changing. Thanks for all the opinions!
If not verbatim account and you are allowed
Subject: If not verbatim account and you are allowed
to add headings, I would put it under either MUSCULOSKELETAL or NEUROLOGIC.
Thank you! I think you are right! My brain and ears aren't working today.
Subject: Thank you! I think you are right! My brain and ears aren't working today.
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I am allowed to restate as 4 10/12-year-old child
Subject: I am allowed to restate as 4 10/12-year-old child
but my account is like that. Ask your QA person what the account wants JMO
Name calling is not allowed on MT Stars. Where's our moderator now? Where RU??? Yoo-hoo! (N
Subject: Name calling is not allowed on MT Stars. Where's our moderator now? Where RU??? Yoo-hoo! (NM)
LOL.
Thanks...that option is not allowed as my account is verbatim...
Subject: Thanks...that option is not allowed as my account is verbatim...
I put the word in as dictated with quotes around it and then sent it off to QA. I noticed later that they just deleted it and put a blank and sent it through without the word. Yet one more reason why I hate being on verbatim accounts!
I would expand it to saturating or saturations if allowed. nm
Subject: I would expand it to saturating or saturations if allowed. nm
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I would type Sr. so-and-so if you're allowed pt names. nm
Subject: I would type Sr. so-and-so if you're allowed pt names. nm
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No test question posts allowed here....
Subject: No test question posts allowed here....
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Aren't too many left that we do hyphenate anymore. The self- words we do. The "rules" are i
Subject: Aren't too many left that we do hyphenate anymore. The self- words we do. The "rules" are in your
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Aren't too many left that we do hyphenate anymore. The self- words we do. The "rules" are i
Subject: Aren't too many left that we do hyphenate anymore. The self- words we do. The "rules" are in your
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I'm testing right now, and I hope they aren't counting off for spelling out numbers. (sm)
Subject: I'm testing right now, and I hope they aren't counting off for spelling out numbers. (sm)
If I get a job and QA says we have to, I will make the change of course, but it might take some practice before I can be consistent with that illogical change. I would hope QA would be more interested in content than meaningless, illogical BOS changes.
Good info, but your docs aren't going to give a flying fig whether there's an 'a' or an
Subject: Good info, but your docs aren't going to give a flying fig whether there's an 'a' or an 'o'
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If allowed, I would reword this...possibly, has not redeveloped a bleed.
Subject: If allowed, I would reword this...possibly, has not redeveloped a bleed.
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Agree with Skipper, though, if allowed, restructuring the sentence would be better. nm
Subject: Agree with Skipper, though, if allowed, restructuring the sentence would be better. nm
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I never use orthopaedics and it is not allowed by my work specs..so it depends on your company! nm
Subject: I never use orthopaedics and it is not allowed by my work specs..so it depends on your company! nm
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Our hospital/clinics NEVER allowed us to capitalize any generic drug...nm
Subject: Our hospital/clinics NEVER allowed us to capitalize any generic drug...nm
If you are allowed to type superscripts (I cannot use that kind of symbols on my accounts) then you
Subject: If you are allowed to type superscripts (I cannot use that kind of symbols on my accounts) then you can put it also as 10 (superscript 5)
lots of words we use correctly aren't in dictionaries, find another excuse. Mucusy is absolutely
Subject: lots of words we use correctly aren't in dictionaries, find another excuse. Mucusy is absolutely acceptable. nm
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