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We are supposed to type arabic now but SM

Posted By: Smiley on 2006-01-03
In Reply to: Cranial nerves - Lee

Subject: We are supposed to type arabic now but SM

I think it is account specific.  Many docs and hospitals still prefer the roman numerals, and I think it looks better too, IMO. 


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You're supposed to type what you hear and not judge. nm
Subject: You're supposed to type what you hear and not judge. nm

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Go to this website and click on About BI-RADS (just under the tutorial button in the middle of the page):

http://www.birads.at/

Hope this helps.
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now "always"...before I offend someone else who has been told to type it with roman numerals.  Been doing this too long and have seen too many facilities/radiologists set their own rules on how they want it typed and it basically boils down to the fact that it's their report..they call the shots.


 


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Subject: it is probably 2, usually Arabic numerals w/grades, but that is JMO NM


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Subject: roman versus arabic

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Subject: roman versus arabic

A good tip that I rcvd either here or on MTNetizens email group.....

In oncology at least:
Staging is in Roman numerals, and remember by reciting "The Romans are on the stage"....
Hence stage III breast cancer, etcetera...
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I cannot speak, though, for other specialties..

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Subject: Use arabic numerals for all numbers.

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Subject: Use arabic numbers for grade, per BOS,,,,,,,,,nm

nm
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Subject: BOS prefers arabic numbers unless for

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