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Speaking of numbers...

Posted By: SM on 2007-04-12
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Subject: Speaking of numbers...

What are the rules according to AAMT BOS on spelling out numbers in reports. If doc says...Patient has had headaches for the past two days...do I spell out two or do I put a number 2?

Thanks for your help.


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