Neuroforaminal versus neural foraminal (warning: rant ahead)
Posted By: Rad MT on 2007-07-24
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Subject: Neuroforaminal versus neural foraminal (warning: rant ahead)
I know this has been discussed before, but I have never typed anything except "neural foraminal," and when I first started with this particular account, all the templates had "neural foraminal stenosis" as one of the headings on the spine CTs and MRIs.
Now the "billing and coding specialist" who is in charge of the account (and who is obviously not a trained transcriptionist - she typed "flebolith" on one report I saw), has changed all the templates to "neuroforaminal," and when I just changed them back, she sent me a nasty little note saying "Don't change the templates."
Well, you should have seen the sorry state the templates were in when I started here. I have spent hours of my OWN time (I am paid by the line) not only cleaning up the templates but also standardizing the naming of the templates so that they can be found easily using the wild card notation.
I am tempted to send an email back saying, "Okay, I'll leave them that way, but 'neuroforaminal' is incorrect" but I am leaving this account as soon as they have my replacement trained.
In fact, I just sent it. I'm leaving, got nothing to lose, and actually have more work than I can comfortably handle right now. I really wish she would tell me she didn't need me any more. 
Oh, I just got her reply: "Actually, no it is not [incorrect]. That is how it was always spelled before we hired ____________ [MTSO] and that is how all of the rads wanted it spelled."
So be it.
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neuroforaminal vs neural foraminal
Subject: neuroforaminal vs neural foraminal
I know I am responding to a very old post, but those of you who use "neural foraminal" as opposed to "neuroforaminal" in your transcriptions are correct. I am a Certified Court Reporter in the state of Texas and a Registered Professional Court Reporter at the national level. I've been so-licensed for 25 years, and I always see the two-word error. And it's AMAZING how often the radiologists are incorrect and ESPECIALLY their staff. Though using the medical combining forms is often the most common, in this case, it is incorrect. But, like some of the others said in their posts, who's going to argue with the doc?
Congrats on standing up for yourself!
neural foraminal
Subject: neural foraminal
x
neural foraminal
Subject: neural foraminal
nm
Maybe neural foraminal???
Subject: Maybe neural foraminal???
x
is is neuro foraminal stenosis or neural foraminal stenosis
Subject: is is neuro foraminal stenosis or neural foraminal stenosis
x
Possibly neural foraminal?
Subject: Possibly neural foraminal?
z
neural foraminal stenosis
Subject: neural foraminal stenosis
2 words--neural foraminal
Subject: 2 words--neural foraminal
x
neural foraminal narrowing?
Subject: neural foraminal narrowing?
Proper is neural foraminal stenosis.
Subject: Proper is neural foraminal stenosis.
Neuroforaminal stenosis is acceptable if okay with your account specifics. It is considered a neologism.
it's neural foraminal. How is he saying plades? long a? nm
Subject: it's neural foraminal. How is he saying plades? long a? nm
neuro versus neural
Subject: neuro versus neural
Patient with trigeminal neuralgia.
Patient has had unremarkable NEURO or NEURAL imaging??
Thanks!
neural foramina is the plural of neural foramen (nm)
Subject: neural foramina is the plural of neural foramen (nm)
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neuroforaminal??? - nm
Subject: neuroforaminal??? - nm
neuroforaminal stenosis
Subject: neuroforaminal stenosis
neuroforaminal stenosis...nm
Subject: neuroforaminal stenosis...nm
x
It might have been but I went ahead and put it through.
Subject: It might have been but I went ahead and put it through.
I've asked for feed back and hope I get it. thanks for your help.
TY - I got a little ahead of
Subject: TY - I got a little ahead of
it was not tpyed that way in the real doc. = )
I went ahead and flagged it even though
Subject: I went ahead and flagged it even though
he never again mentions the left tonsil. Even at the end of the dictation when he says the plan is to rule out a right peritonsillar abscess. Same thing he said in chief complaint, except there he said "left". Oh well....I flagged it and I'll let QA make the change.
Thanks for the advice.
That may be it, went ahead and flagged it though thank you
Subject: That may be it, went ahead and flagged it though thank you
x
I think I got it thanks, it must be foraminal stenosis
Subject: I think I got it thanks, it must be foraminal stenosis
s/l foraminal butts??
Subject: s/l foraminal butts??
This is listed under MRI findings:
"Disk material within the (s/l foraminal butts), but does not appear to compress the nerve root sheath.
Any ideas? TIA
foraminal stenosis?
Subject: foraminal stenosis?
I would go ahead and put Elder Abuse...
Subject: I would go ahead and put Elder Abuse...
a lot of states have this to report elderly people who are being abused by family, etc.
That's a possibility, but I'm not sure. I had to go ahead and send. Thanks!
Subject: That's a possibility, but I'm not sure. I had to go ahead and send. Thanks!
I went ahead and sent it with a blank. It was STAT. Thanks-
Subject: I went ahead and sent it with a blank. It was STAT. Thanks-
nm
and it isn't epidermidis....thanks anyway ahead of time :)
Subject: and it isn't epidermidis....thanks anyway ahead of time :)
and it isn't epidermidis....thanks anyway ahead of time :)
Subject: and it isn't epidermidis....thanks anyway ahead of time :)
Just go ahead and leave a blank. With
Subject: Just go ahead and leave a blank. With
foreign accents sometimes it is only a guess and not worth guessing wrong.
that's a Coumadin dosage, not INR, wonder if the doc is getting ahead...sm
Subject: that's a Coumadin dosage, not INR, wonder if the doc is getting ahead...sm
of himself about doing an INR level to make sure the Coumadin is therapeutic, not too much and not to little. The INR level should be between 2-3 for most labs. Sounds like he meant to say Coumadin, and may later on in the dictation talk about getting an INR level. Hope this helps!
foraminal coach maneuver.....sm
Subject: foraminal coach maneuver.....sm
typing an ortho report; doc states on PE that on examination of his neck "foraminal coach maneuvers" were negative.
just a guess....foraminal lamina? nm
Subject: just a guess....foraminal lamina? nm
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yeah - I was thinking that myself, but I could never confirm it. I just went ahead and sent it to
Subject: yeah - I was thinking that myself, but I could never confirm it. I just went ahead and sent it to
QA, but thank you for your help.
Hehehe, I guess I was a step ahead of that
Subject: Hehehe, I guess I was a step ahead of that
I'm sorry, Since I already have suprascript and subscript up on my tool bar, my instructions were what to do for O(subscript)2 so all you have to do is type O2 (normal script) and it changes automatically. I don't like having to highlight the 2 and go up there and click the subscript button every time. I would rather type O2 and let Word change it for me. I try to get Word to do as much for me as possible. I do this for cm squared, cm cubed, H2(subscript)0, etc.
oops - fingers got ahead of me -- s/b "diseases"
Subject: oops - fingers got ahead of me -- s/b "diseases"
Does it sound like he is saying "constitutional" instead of correction ahead?
Subject: Does it sound like he is saying "constitutional" instead of correction ahead?
No I'm actually not rude...but go ahead and keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel bette
Subject: No I'm actually not rude...but go ahead and keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
Why don't you go read through your posts, they don't sound very friendly to me.
The patient is status post trans_s/l foraminal resection of gangliocytoma.
Subject: The patient is status post trans_s/l foraminal resection of gangliocytoma.
TIA :-)
probably neural foramina?
Subject: probably neural foramina?
:-)
neural foramina
Subject: neural foramina
pl. of foramen
look under FORAMINA in your dictionary.
Neural Foramen SM
Subject: Neural Foramen SM
left neural foramen
right neural foramen
bilateral neural foramina
neuroforamen not an accepted word (although people try to use it)
Neural foraminotomy?
Subject: Neural foraminotomy?
I think in this case neural smq
Subject: I think in this case neural smq
Neural ImagingNeurodigital.com is a development-stage site at this time that will focus on digital imaging of neural function patterns.
L5 neural foramen -- nm
Subject: L5 neural foramen -- nm
neural foramina
Subject: neural foramina
Correct way is neural foramina (pleural) and neural foramen (singular)
neural hypersensitivity nm
Subject: neural hypersensitivity nm
nm
neural glide nm
Subject: neural glide nm
neural foramina
Subject: neural foramina
It's neural foramina. And "pleural" is only spelled this way if it means the thorax or chest cavity. That was probably just a typo in your original message and you meant to type "plural," meaning more than one. I've been a Texas state-certified court reporter and national-certified court reporter for 25 years. The proper terms are "neural foramina," (that is the plural form) and "neural foramen" (that is the singular form) although you will see them misspelled as neuroforamina all the time.
neural spine...nm
Subject: neural spine...nm
nm
Neuroforamina vs neural foramina
Subject: Neuroforamina vs neural foramina
We're having a "discussion" here. Can someone tell me what is the preferred?
Thanks,
Karen
Neuroforamina vs neural foramina
Subject: Neuroforamina vs neural foramina
I understand that one is singular and the other is pleural. The MTs in the hospital where I now work are telling me that it's okay to type "neuroforamina" and I was told that is incorrect -- that it should be "neural foramina." I suppose it should be the same as for the singular form, but we just need some confirmation or judgment as to which is now the preferred way to type this. I know that 30+ years ago, I was told that neuroforamen *and* neuroforamina were okay. I don't believe tha anymore and do believe that neural foramina is the correct way to type it. Anyone with a definite on this? Thanks -- Karen
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