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It's always been ileal conduit, ileoconduit is not a word that I can reference except on google.

Posted By: MissouriMT on 2006-11-01
In Reply to: ileoconduit versus ileal conduit - Patti

Subject: It's always been ileal conduit, ileoconduit is not a word that I can reference except on google.

It's not in Stedman's or Dorland's.


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ileal conduit vs ileoconduit
Subject: ileal conduit vs ileoconduit

I have the Stedman's GI/GU book and it has ileoconduit in it.
ileal conduit vs. ileoconduit
Subject: ileal conduit vs. ileoconduit

Per Stedman's GI/GU 3rd Edition, ileoconduit is correct.
ileoconduit versus ileal conduit
Subject: ileoconduit versus ileal conduit

Vera Pyle's Current Medical Terminology 7th edition says ileal conduit NOT ileoconduit.  Does anyone know if this has changed to be accepted.
ileal conduit
Subject: ileal conduit

Not even Stedman's GI/GU books? My QA marked me off as a large deduction for putting ileal conduit and marked should be ileoconduit.
My 4th ed GI/GU lists ileal conduit sm
Subject: My 4th ed GI/GU lists ileal conduit sm

urinary diversion, but also lists ileoconduit.

Vera Pyle's 10th edition says:

"ileal conduit (not ileoconduit or ileo conduit)..." and goes on to describe the ileal conduit with regard to the segment of ileum used as a urinary reservoir in patients who have had cystectomy.


Ileal conduit urostomy?
Subject: Ileal conduit urostomy?


I should add that ileal conduit is listed in all three references.
Subject: I should add that ileal conduit is listed in all three references.

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hate to beat a dead horse on ileal conduit
Subject: hate to beat a dead horse on ileal conduit

Does anyone have a GI/GU book that lists ileoconduit?  My QA does not like to be proved wrong.  She took a large deduction for my putting ileal conduit.  I am sending a QA review to have it looked at again, but she always comes up with a reference book from somewhere that has her word listed, so I'm just trying to save myself all the headache of submitting a QA review to find out it is listed somewhere ileoconduit.
Hey Patti, on the ileal conduit question, I was kind of wondering what your QA had to say? SM
Subject: Hey Patti, on the ileal conduit question, I was kind of wondering what your QA had to say? SM

Did you still get counted off or did you all call it a draw?
loopogram: x-ray of ileal conduit usually from urinary diversion surgery. (nmsg)
Subject: loopogram: x-ray of ileal conduit usually from urinary diversion surgery. (nmsg)

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reference from google sm
Subject: reference from google sm

www.medicinescomplete.com/mc/martindale/current/999904-n5813-q.htm - Supplemental
What is Pradeep's reference for this? (no Google, please). NM
Subject: What is Pradeep's reference for this? (no Google, please). NM

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please give me a book reference, not google.. i need hard copy documentation on 2 things
Subject: please give me a book reference, not google.. i need hard copy documentation on 2 things

Foxhollow device (is it Fox Hollow? Foxhollow? FoxHollow?)


silverhawk atherectomy ... (is it SilverHawk? Silverhawk? silverhawk?)


only hard copy in a book or something reputable please... Google isn't affording me the answers I need this time around.  Thanks.


onelook.com is a great word reference! nm
Subject: onelook.com is a great word reference! nm

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My 3rd edition GI/GU Sted's has ileoconduit listed. nm
Subject: My 3rd edition GI/GU Sted's has ileoconduit listed. nm


No, I do not have any reference books with the word "supertherapeutic" listed. (sm)
Subject: No, I do not have any reference books with the word "supertherapeutic" listed. (sm)

Stedman's electronic dictionary gives the definition of the prefix "super" as: In excess, above...

Webster's dictionary gives the definition of the prefix "super" as: over and above; higher in quantity.

Pharmaceutical documents use the term "supertherapeutic" doses.
onelook.com is a great reference tool for word and phrase look-ups. nm
Subject: onelook.com is a great reference tool for word and phrase look-ups. nm

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conduit procedure?
Subject: conduit procedure?

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try ileal-sparing
Subject: try ileal-sparing


vertebrobasilar is one word.......google is not the
Subject: vertebrobasilar is one word.......google is not the

you need to search beyond google as google, while a great search engine, misspells ALL the time medical terminology. 
If you just Google the single word
Subject: If you just Google the single word

glissement, you won't get what you need. You need to limit your results to those that are relevant to your topic by adding associated terms to your search. Try the two words "glissement" and "knee" (without the quotes). There will be a lot of results in French, but even if you can't read French, you will be able to see that they are relevant to your topic. There are, however, a few that use "glissement" in an English context, which should give you more confidence. In any event, it's your initials on the report, so you handled it in the way that is most comfortable for you. I could be wrong, of course, but I suspect that it will turn out to be "glissement".
cystoprostatectomy with ileal neobladder
Subject: cystoprostatectomy with ileal neobladder

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Cardiology - s/l Toronto conduit? see message
Subject: Cardiology - s/l Toronto conduit? see message

The doc is saying:  He had a bicuspid valve with dilated thoracic aorta, and this was replaced with a s/l "Toronto conduit," which is an aortic graft with a bioprosthetic valve sewn into it.
Another case of a doc making up a word; however, I did get 500+ hits on google for SM
Subject: Another case of a doc making up a word; however, I did get 500+ hits on google for SM

syndactylization and I think in this case, I would go ahead and give your doc her made up word.  It's your call, though.
Surgery word-3 versions pop up from Google, which is correct?
Subject: Surgery word-3 versions pop up from Google, which is correct?

Innomed or InnoMED or Inamed? for lap band or Lap-Band or LAP-BAND(tm)? surgery

 

 

Ilium or iliac is bone. Ileum or ileal is intestinal.
Subject: Ilium or iliac is bone. Ileum or ileal is intestinal.


Good question - if you google medical word help there was an entry questioning Gilessa as drug name
Subject: Good question - if you google medical word help there was an entry questioning Gilessa as drug name


I too love Google but be V_E_R_Y careful w/google
Subject: I too love Google but be V_E_R_Y careful w/google

Google is great for retrieving anything faster than the speed of light *lol* - but if the info comes from a nonverifiable medical website, be very wary.  There are a few I trust only...the NIH for one (Nat'l Institute of Health) and the CDC (Center for Disease Control) and a few others out of the government actually.


As for prescription places, I trusted rx.com for far too long, there are many more reliable drug websites out there... medilexicon.com is a great site and to confirm a proper name of a disease or things like that, there is whonamedit.com which, if you write to the site owner, can be added to (I have done some communication with the site owner so this is 100% true). 


When I first started using google in MT work about 8 years ago as google is not that old, (got online 12 years ago, been an MT since 1980), I had looked up Spironolactone, and Google gave the spelling to me incorrectly and (who knew it was wrong?!?!??) I used their spelling and I was wrong. 


So, only advice is be VERY CAREFUL what YOU CHOOSE to use as far as websites go regarding MT/ME work because in the end you're the one responsible....not google. 



gotta be careful w/Google....I love Google
Subject: gotta be careful w/Google....I love Google


and your reference for this was?...nm
Subject: and your reference for this was?...nm


Here's another reference for you. SM
Subject: Here's another reference for you. SM

http://www.mtstars.net/default/index.cgi
Thank You!! I just could not reference it! nm
Subject: Thank You!! I just could not reference it! nm


reference sm
Subject: reference sm

http://www.4webmed.com/manu/main.cfm?page=manuw&id=61
reference sm
Subject: reference sm

http://salimetrics.com/pdf/DHEA%20Diag%20Kit%20Insert.pdf
If you look down a little further that reference gives both
Subject: If you look down a little further that reference gives both

I think m/sec is a lot clearer, personally. I always put cm/sec, why not m/sec?


JMHO.


in reference to what?
Subject: in reference to what?


Here's another reference from BOS
Subject: Here's another reference from BOS

if you have it, pages 46-47.   I've had accounts that didn't want departments, etc. capitalized no matter how they were used, all lower case, so definitely account preference as people said below.  I  prefer to capitalize when referred to as an entity, such as you said or as in BOS, patient was referred to Anesthesia for evaluation... I really dislike typing, the patient was seen by nutrition or wound care or speech, etc. but if verbatim and that's the way they want it, that's what the account gets.
Thank you for the reference! :) nm
Subject: Thank you for the reference! :) nm


What is it in reference to?
Subject: What is it in reference to?

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Another reference
Subject: Another reference

Another reference to AG and the one I use:


http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1056872701002252


Lilly


What is it in reference to??? There is a
Subject: What is it in reference to??? There is a

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can I get a reference please?
Subject: can I get a reference please?


What is this in reference to??? nm
Subject: What is this in reference to??? nm

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Can somebody with an OB reference
Subject: Can somebody with an OB reference

book tell me if it is a Schultz mechanism or Schultze mechanism for the delivery of the placenta?  I can't track down anything verifiable on the internet.  Thanks very much.   


ok, how about a different reference?
Subject: ok, how about a different reference?

http://www.onelook.com/?w=followup&ls=a
Thanks for the reference!!!
Subject: Thanks for the reference!!!


Look up contractions in GI reference NM
Subject: Look up contractions in GI reference NM

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Maybe, though can't find a reference. sm
Subject: Maybe, though can't find a reference. sm

I remember seeing a TV commercial just last week about something with similar S/L, but I'm hesitant to say it indeed was Zytora.


Reference cited
Subject: Reference cited

According to Vera Pyle's CMT:

disc - alternative spelling of disk. See: disk.

disk, disc (Gr. diskos, L. discus)-a circular or rounded flat plate. Note: Disk appears to be the preferred spelling, although disc is also used, especially in names of anatomic structures.
thank you so much. i could not find any reference to this.
Subject: thank you so much. i could not find any reference to this.

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I found reference to
Subject: I found reference to

Lateral, unilateral (which may fit if one-sided cancer), and ventral surface, also oroantral, which wouldn't fit unless they went through the sinuses. LOL Wish I could hear what you're hearing to help more.