IF you are to follow BOS rules...sm
Posted By: Confetti on 2008-11-30
In Reply to: sickle vs sickel - PTFlex girl
Subject: IF you are to follow BOS rules...sm
The patient has Alzheimer disease.
She has Alzheimer's.
Don't use the apostrophe S when 'disease' follows.
But, that is the BOS rule. Your client and/or company may prefer it's own rule.
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follow-up is the noun/adjective. follow up is the verb.
Subject: follow-up is the noun/adjective. follow up is the verb.
I prefer to hyphen follow-up when used as a noun or adjective.
example: She will return in 3 weeks for follow-up (or followup). She will return in 3 weeks for a follow-up visit (used as adjective here).
She will follow up in 3 months (used as verb)
Follow-up, follow up, followup all correct
Subject: Follow-up, follow up, followup all correct
I have a follow-up appointment tomorrow.
I need to follow up with my doctor.
I am scheduled for followup later this month.
follow up if used as a verb and follow-up as a noun. SM
Subject: follow up if used as a verb and follow-up as a noun. SM
For Example:
The patient will follow up in my office.
The patient will be seen for follow-up in my office.
My understanding has always been that follow-up and followup were the same. It was more of a personal preference whether you used the hyphen or used one word; however follow up is always used when used as a verb.
She will follow up with me(v)/will be seen in followup(n); will have a follow-up visit (adj)
Subject: She will follow up with me(v)/will be seen in followup(n); will have a follow-up visit (adj)
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Followup/follow-up/follow up. SM
Subject: Followup/follow-up/follow up. SM
A doctor can follow up with a patient during a follow-up visit (note that the adjectival form requires a hyphen). Neither phrase should be turned into a single hyphenless word.
follow up versus follow-up. SM
Subject: follow up versus follow-up. SM
Would someone be willing to give examples of when to use the hyphen or not to use? Thanks.
follow up v follow-up v followup
Subject: follow up v follow-up v followup
If you can use the word "the" directly in front of the words "follow up", then it needs to be one word. That is the "official" note from my QA. Have a great day.
Follow up:followup: follow-up
Subject: Follow up:followup: follow-up
Ok,, been at this for years,, I think i have it finally and then a QA will correct followup, follow up, or follow-up. I have read and reread the explanation in all the books.. I am looking for someone to "splain to me in english Lucy". I know will follow up is correct,, he has a follow-up appointment, but I seem to get messed up with followup versus follow up. I know the verb and none definition but it does not soak in... HELP
Regarding AAMT rules
Subject: Regarding AAMT rules
I go with my client preference, and when I began working his account, the sample reports did not use BOS rules. I only use numerals to express drug dosage, measurements, dates, etc. I also agree with you on the appearance of it.
number rules?
Subject: number rules?
Two of my teachers taught different number rules. One, said that they should almost always be numeral form. The other said that numbers are usually spelled out.
I believe the Book of Style says numerals are usually appropriate, accept for zero, at the beginning of a sentence, drug admin. abrev's., etc..
Anyone? Numerals right? With acceptions? I'm just starting.
I do agree with you, but it seems none of the rules fit this..
Subject: I do agree with you, but it seems none of the rules fit this..
BOS says if you can put "and" between the adjectives then use a comma, which in this case you really can't until btwn telangiectatic and vascular. Just always second guessing myself.
Thank you!!!!
Format rules in MT
Okay, I am an old gal working mostly ias in-hospital MT (VA, Teaching hospital), but I did also work off and on for MTSOs at home. Now going back a long time, I was always taught that in formatting Problem Lists or Hospital Course by problem list you transcribe it this way. Problem #1 - HYPERTENSION. The patient is taking lisinopril currently..... or if the doc did not say PROBLEM #1, then you transcribed it 1. HYPERTENSION. Blah, blah, blah. When did this change and become wrong? Most of the docs I am now transcribing for one of the major MTSOs now (left the hospital), actually ask that we capitalize the major problem. Is this in the so-called AHDI BOS2?
IMHO, using the capitalization on the problem is much easier to read, than this...
1. Hypertension. The blah, blah, blah..
2. Diabetes mellitus type 2. Uncontrolled. Not compliant.
Any QAers out there can answer this one for this old school nitpicker?
Well, CLIENT PREFERENCE rules.....sm
Subject: Well, CLIENT PREFERENCE rules.....sm
Always, always it's client preference. I was just speaking in a BOS/AAMT ruling about numbers. Client preference most definitely IS the bottom line. 
Help, I can't remember the hyphen rules.
Is there a hyphen with non-radiating and non-icteric, or all one word, or separated? Thanks. I'm an old dog and I don't want to learn new tricks.
Rules for tense in a report?
I always thought it was past tense. I have a doc who started the first 2 sentences using past tense and then suddenly switched to present test. IV sedation IS administered, Patient IS positioned. Do you change present to past or type as is? Nothing in the CP about it.
Rules here per admin is No Testing..sm
Subject: Rules here per admin is No Testing..sm
hope you have a happy happy new year and good luck in your studies/testing
thanks....lots of rules with numbers!
Subject: thanks....lots of rules with numbers!
Rules change over the years
Subject: Rules change over the years
but some rules are that way just because it sounds right. 5 centimeters were injected just sounds ignorant and I don't care who you are, as Larry the Cable Guy would say. ;-)
If your account doesn't have specific rules about it, sm
the correct way would be to write it out in full (Escherichia coli) whether or not it was dictated in full. Then, if the dictator says E. coli after that, then it is correct to transcribe it that way. If the dictator says it in full the next time, then transcribe it in full. Check your account's guidelines for their preference.
ALS is correct per AAMT rules. See cite.
I don't care whether the BOS is right or wrong on the issue. I have to use it and so do others. Here's what it says.
As per AAMT BOS 2nd edition page 189: Always capitalize genus names and their abbreviated forms when accompanied by species name. Lowercase genus names used in plural and adjectival forms and when used in the vernacular; for example, when they stand alone without a species name.
as poster above stated, I was going with BOS rules...relax! :) nm
Subject: as poster above stated, I was going with BOS rules...relax! :) nm
I think just the normal rules of English would apply
Subject: I think just the normal rules of English would apply
Whenever adding *ing* to a word that ends in t, you add an extra t.
A couple of grammar rules are at play here
Subject: A couple of grammar rules are at play here
First of all, both got and gotten are correct forms of the verb get. However, got is a past tense or past participle depending on whether or not the word "has" or "have" is used in front of it. Gotten, however, is past participle and should be used with the word "has" or "have" in front of it.
It has gotten increasingly larger - okay. It gotten increasingly larger - not okay. It got increasingly larger - okay. It has got increasingly larger - okay.
So if your doc says it anyway but "It gotten increasingly larger", he is correct. It's simply a matter of preference. Brits don't generally use the word "gotten", and therefore, a lot of people think it is not a legitimate word, but it is.
Time format rules in BOS 3rd edition?
Can anyone tell me what the specific rules are for time format in the new BOS on pages 337-339. A brief description would be great or u can scan and email it to me too, whichever is easier.
I do intend to buy my own soon but I have to wait till payday and I'm starting a new company right now that uses that book :(
TIA !
Ringer. AAMT BOS2 rules on eponyms.
Subject: Ringer. AAMT BOS2 rules on eponyms.
I believe that is only if the company is compliant with JCHO rules. Not all companies are.
Subject: I believe that is only if the company is compliant with JCHO rules. Not all companies are.
By AAMT rules, need help with period with drug values. (sm)
Subject: By AAMT rules, need help with period with drug values. (sm)
Is this right?
1 gm
0.1 mg
1 mg
I was taught that it was 1.0 mg but doc wants it to be just 1 mg and 1 gm.
Help. Thanks.
It is not 'erroneous', only add to the AAMT rules, which change every year!
Subject: It is not 'erroneous', only add to the AAMT rules, which change every year!
To say that the plural form decubiti for the singular of decubitus is
'erroneous' is plain BS !
And it is known that the AAMT, now it has another name, 'makes up' its own grammar rules for the MTing.
This issue has been discussed numerous times on this board and causes a lot of confusion for the MTs and arguments between MTs, QAs and the clients.
EVERY year the BOS rules are changed. We just got used to the BOS 2 and in December 08 the BOS 3 was issued, again with new rules to adhere. The price is around $ 90.--.
follow-up - how I would...
Subject: follow-up - how I would...
TITLE OF PROCEDURE:
Echocardiogram
FINDINGS
Left atrium - grossly normal. Mitral valve - grossly normal valve leaflet morphology and motion.
Left ventricle - normal systolic and diastolic dimensions, grossly normal segmental wall motion and systolic function overall. Endocardium - somewhat difficult to visualize. Estimated ejection fraction - 50-55%.
Aortic valve - mildly sclerotic valve leaflets with no frank stenosis or regurgitation.
Aortic root - normal.
(Right?) atrium - normal. Tricuspid valve - normal. Right ventricle - normal size and systolic function.
The pulmonic valve is normal.
Pericardium is normal.
No significant effusion.
Intracardiac masses or thrombi - none observed.
COMMENTS: Somewhat technically limited study due to acoustic window quality.
IMPRESSION:
1. Grossly normal left ventricular size and systolic function.
2. No evidence of valvular heart disease.
follow-up
Subject: follow-up
In the context you are quoting (noun), I would use follow-up. If you are using the words as a verb (e.g. ...he will follow up in 6 weeks...), then separate the words with a space. Hope that helps.
Thanks, will follow-up.
Subject: Thanks, will follow-up.
follow up Q
Subject: follow up Q
i thought, we MTs, should only transcribe what the doctor had dictated? No more, no less... How come there were 2 impression?
follow up
Subject: follow up
hmmmm. I listened to it again and it does not seem to be that. I will have to flag it and ask. This doc has a strong accent. He pronounces 'verbal' as 'ware - i - bile' and it took me forever to figure out what he meant.
follow up
Subject: follow up
Thank you....although I guess some people still use a hyphen sometimes? Well, I'll leave it out.
Cindi
Follow-up
Subject: Follow-up
She is dictating a list of medication allergies and says Q-Tech. Nothing else. Not much help! 
What if follow up is used like this.... SM
Subject: What if follow up is used like this.... SM
He would be happy to see her in the office a follow-up.
follow up
Subject: follow up
This is how I remember it.
follow up = verb
followup = noun
He will "follow up" next week.
Replace follow up with the word "eat". If the sentence still makes sense then it is a verb.
He will "eat" next week.
That is the only way I can remember it! Good luck!
follow-up
Subject: follow-up
He keeps dictating "follow dash up"
I thought it was followup or follow up. Not follow-up.
I don't know what to do
Follow up yet again
Subject: Follow up yet again
This is how I use it.
follow up - verb The patient will follow up with so and so.
follow-up - adjective follow-up appointment
followup - noun The patient will return for a followup.
Of course, people have different opinions. I think the accepted latest BOS is that followup is used for noun and adjective now and follow up is used for verb.
Follow-up has its uses
Subject: Follow-up has its uses
I was taught that when followup is a noun, it is one word. When it is a verb, follow up is two words, no hyphen. When it is an adjective with the noun it is modifiying immediately following, it should be hyphenated.
This is a followup to the procedure done yesterday.
This is a follow-up examination on your patient.
She will follow up with Dr. Can't-Speak-English-But-Thinks-He-Can-Spell tomorrow.
I will, however, note this disclaimer: I was out of the field for a few years, and something may have changed in the AAMT BOS that I haven't noticed yet...
followup vs follow up - sm please
Subject: followup vs follow up - sm please
Is there an easy way/helpful hint to remember the difference between these?
TIA!
follow-up when an adjective.
Subject: follow-up when an adjective.
Followup or follow up
Is knowing the difference between followup and follow up really a huge deal? I can never get them straight and QA is always nagging about it.
followup or follow up
Subject: followup or follow up
The rule most places I've seen in followup for a noun and follow up or follow-up for a verb. Any official rules floating around out there? I work for 2 different companies and the editors do it different at each.
I don't do psych, so I'd follow what the
Subject: I don't do psych, so I'd follow what the
psych experts say, but in other dictation you would type a ratio like that as 1:1.
follow-up appointment
Subject: follow-up appointment
follow-up is actually an adjective in that example. I was trained to use hyphenated form for adjectives, but it is usually client preference anyway. I will see him in followup, would be the noun form.
help with followup follow up
Subject: help with followup follow up
Found this on another MT board and thought it was EXTREMELY helpful as even as QA I still get confused!
I know "follow up" is a verb and "followup" is a noun/adjective but am still having some trouble. A suggestion is to place a different noun or verb in its place. For example, use eat. He will followup/follow up next week. If you place "eat" in the sentence, "He will eat next week." you know it is a verb because the sentence still makes sense.
followup, follow up
Subject: followup, follow up
I believe it was in Vera Pyle I learned years ago that followup (one word) is a noun, and follow up is an action, a verb. That's how I always remember it.
I know that, but followup or follow-up
Subject: I know that, but followup or follow-up
I'm trying to figure out whether it is "followup" or "follow-up"
followup/follow up help
Subject: followup/follow up help
Do I have this right?
This is a pleasant 71-year-old male in followup (noun) of his small cell CA.
...................................................in followup (adjective) mode of his small cell CA
...................................................in for follow up (verb) of his small cell CA.
Thanks!
FOLLOWUP V. FOLLOW UP
Subject: FOLLOWUP V. FOLLOW UP
Follow up (2 words) is a verb, as in to follow up a patient, while followup (1 word) is a noun, as in seen in followup.
Rosie
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