I don't trust word books any more.
Posted By: samsa on 2005-09-30
In Reply to: Kitner/Kittner - Old MT
Subject: I don't trust word books any more.
Like you, I have been running into this situation more and more lately. The Internet may not solve much, but it sure points out how unreliable all those word books are that we've been trusting all these years.
It's gotten so I don't trust any eponym reference unless it gives me first & last name with bio (hey, why not shoe size and zodiac sign while we're at it!)
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I agree - I still use books, too. I actually trust my
Subject: I agree - I still use books, too. I actually trust my
books - if I can't find it in my books, I go to the internet, but not before. Sometimes the internet can just give a whole lot of inaccurate info that takes a long time to go through (not that it isn't helpful in a lot of cases - I just don't always trust it).
Trust us. Docs never give dosages with the word sm
Subject: Trust us. Docs never give dosages with the word sm
"chemotherapy." It makes no sense as there are hundreds of medications (where you would hear dosages) that comprise chemotherapy. Would you rather be corrected by people who are not paid to help you, or would you rather your QA catch a blunder like this? Up to you.
My word books show "fingerstick" --nm
Subject: My word books show "fingerstick" --nm
Thanks again MT50. I posted before about word books for ortho
Subject: Thanks again MT50. I posted before about word books for ortho
and I think you replied but now I can't find the post. Did you say you used the Medical and Surgical book the most?
No, I do not have any reference books with the word "supertherapeutic" listed. (sm)
Subject: No, I do not have any reference books with the word "supertherapeutic" listed. (sm)
Stedman's electronic dictionary gives the definition of the prefix "super" as: In excess, above...
Webster's dictionary gives the definition of the prefix "super" as: over and above; higher in quantity.
Pharmaceutical documents use the term "supertherapeutic" doses.
Cardiology help: supraatherosclerosis? Can not document in word books.
Subject: Cardiology help: supraatherosclerosis? Can not document in word books.
Oh, and NEVER trust their spelling.
Subject: Oh, and NEVER trust their spelling.
No! It's orthotopic. Trust me.
Subject: No! It's orthotopic. Trust me.
Thanks for your help! I should have gone by my s/l, but didn't trust myself.
Subject: Thanks for your help! I should have gone by my s/l, but didn't trust myself.
You can't always trust Google
Subject: You can't always trust Google
There were only 551 hits on Google for hydroxycodone which means this is not an accurate spelling. Before you even think of trusting Google's info, you need to check the number of hits. If there is not a VERY large number of hits, do not trust the results. When in doubt, check you books. I have all updated drug books, and this is not any. Call a local pharmacy if you still think this could be a very recent drug. The doctor probably made a mistake. It is better to question than to guess and make that mistake. My doctors make up words all the time or just get confused themselves. Let the doctor make the final decision or QA if you have to go that route. I had to learn this the hard way in the beginning.
I'd trust that one more! I'm no patent expert!
Subject: I'd trust that one more! I'm no patent expert!
Hahahaha
Trust Txczech! Doc is probably mispronouncing it. nm
Subject: Trust Txczech! Doc is probably mispronouncing it. nm
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from Merck never trust Google
Subject: from Merck never trust Google
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I trust Tessier before Stedman's and for 25 yrs
Subject: I trust Tessier before Stedman's and for 25 yrs
Back in the early 80s I loved Stedman's but I found way too many discrepancies, even called them once and they said if we find any other discrepancies to feel free to call them and let them know because WE are the MTs and they need our input.
However, I prefer Claudia Tessier's Surgical Word Book, Vera Pyle's Medical Terminology book, and then the internet where you can find the manufacturer's website and see the CORRECT spelling.
Just my humble opinion....JMHO....
and we all can agree to disagree too....
Thanks. I saw there was a lot on Google, but I don't always trust that as a reliable source. nm
Subject: Thanks. I saw there was a lot on Google, but I don't always trust that as a reliable source. nm
books...books....books....
Subject: books...books....books....
help yourself
Please don't just quote ref. books
Please don't just quote reference books; I have my own, thank you, and they are all just as conflicted as yours. Stedman's, Tessier, Sloane, Google, etc., all list Moschowitz, Moschcowitz, Moskowitz and Moscowitz in roughly equal proportions. None gives an actual first name or cites the pioneering publication. Please, does anyone actually know who this procedure is named after? Is it hernia repair pioneer Alexis Moschcowitz of Mt. Sinai? Full doctor name and facility or publication title, please!!!!!
No terminology books....sm
Subject: No terminology books....sm
Don't spend too much for terminology books and be selective when doing such; you can look up just about everything online now and save it all to favorites.
actually, it is now pen VK per drug books
Subject: actually, it is now pen VK per drug books
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You NEED to buy reference books and USE them.
Subject: You NEED to buy reference books and USE them.
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So what is he saying? And did your books get up and walk away?! lol!
Subject: So what is he saying? And did your books get up and walk away?! lol!
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2 words according to my books.
Subject: 2 words according to my books.
video colonoscope, video gastroscope, video endoscope, etc.
Thank you both very much!! I will make a note of this in my books. nm
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beg to difer about accuracy of books
Subject: beg to difer about accuracy of books
its spellchecker to take out all the errors that were in it and have extended this overhaul to books published since mid April 2004....SO, if your Stedman book was published before that date, you will find misspellings.
And as others here like to say that BOS is not the authority, neither is Stedman. If Vera were still alive, I would still swear by her Current Medical Terminology but since Claudia took it over, I question its continued purity.
All I can find also in 3 abbrev books. sm
Subject: All I can find also in 3 abbrev books. sm
how is this used?
I think it is CollaMend but I can't find it in my books.
Subject: I think it is CollaMend but I can't find it in my books.
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NO drug books?? :) ....It's Phenytek..nm
Subject: NO drug books?? :) ....It's Phenytek..nm
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All my reference books of every brand
Subject: All my reference books of every brand
agree it's 2 words. I plugged it into OneLook as one word, and look what this site says:
http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=31082
How funny!
and cannot find in my reference books at all. Thanks. NM
Subject: and cannot find in my reference books at all. Thanks. NM
Heads up on Stedmans CD books
Subject: Heads up on Stedmans CD books
Hi all..
I have bought quite a few Stedmans CDs which are wonderful. Then came the Cardiology book and apparently all that will follow. They go on the ready reference bookshelf by LWW...It severely limits your abilities to search...for instance if you are looking for some kind of syndrome you can't hear what it is but you know it is a syndrome. where u can go into the books and look under syndrome and hope to hit pay dirt..The ready reference bookshelf doesn't allow you to search like that. Same thing with Quick Look Drug book 2008 same problem...The tech quy has said he has heard the same complaints...Just a heads up before you go wasting your money buy the books instead from here on out :-( Rots cause the CDs were 100 times easier. I complained and they don't seem to care what I think...Unless I am doing something wrong in my searches and anyone has an answer on how to fix the problem...We gotta stick together here...:-)
All my reference books are Stedman's.
Subject: All my reference books are Stedman's.
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Tylenol No. 3 per drug books.
Subject: Tylenol No. 3 per drug books.
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Go with our reference books. I see only diathesis, too. nm
Subject: Go with our reference books. I see only diathesis, too. nm
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I'm no where near my reference books, so check my spelling of sm
Subject: I'm no where near my reference books, so check my spelling of sm
Waldenstrom. That might be your s/l.
This is the reason we advise you to buy reference books! nm
Subject: This is the reason we advise you to buy reference books! nm
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Advice: Invest in MT terminology books. sm
Subject: Advice: Invest in MT terminology books. sm
It will make your life so much easier than trying to wing it with Google alone.
Also, research all responses you receive here, i.e., look up the definitions for "fulminate" and "fulminant" and you'll see what I mean. ;)
This is why I keep saying "buy reference books, ya'll!!!" nm
Subject: This is why I keep saying "buy reference books, ya'll!!!" nm
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my books also have CA125, no hyphen, no space....nm
Subject: my books also have CA125, no hyphen, no space....nm
Reference books come in handy for things like this.
Subject: Reference books come in handy for things like this.
Docs mispronounce words all the time. 99% of my docs say Perm-a-Cath, but it is PermCath. Docs spell things and spell them wrong all the time. One of our jobs as MTs is to know enough to know doc is saying/spelling something incorrectly and correct it.
Thanks for the info -- any web sites or books you recommend?
Subject: Thanks for the info -- any web sites or books you recommend?
Thanks again
Please recommend rad/onc web sites and reference books. Thanks.
Subject: Please recommend rad/onc web sites and reference books. Thanks.
Thanks!
I love it. Beats leafing through your books sometimes!!! nn
Subject: I love it. Beats leafing through your books sometimes!!! nn
my books did walk away with a 2-year-old attached
Subject: my books did walk away with a 2-year-old attached
lol, and he was saying a PROSTATE needle biopsy. I guess I just have coffee on the brain. 
1. no apostrophe. 2. Do you have ANY reference books? It is Phalen. nm
Subject: 1. no apostrophe. 2. Do you have ANY reference books? It is Phalen. nm
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Stedman's Ortho. Books do come in handy! nm
Subject: Stedman's Ortho. Books do come in handy! nm
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It all comes down to style as stated in the begining of a lot of reference books
Subject: It all comes down to style as stated in the begining of a lot of reference books
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I've been in love with my MT reference books for 30+ years, sm
Subject: I've been in love with my MT reference books for 30+ years, sm
probably the best relationship I've ever had! :)
BTW, my books aren't 30 years old.
K-Lyte? Drug books are invaluable for stuff like this! nm
Subject: K-Lyte? Drug books are invaluable for stuff like this! nm
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Your awesome,,,just found it after searching a bunch of books. Thank you
Subject: Your awesome,,,just found it after searching a bunch of books. Thank you
BIG THANK YOU!!! Where could I find references besides Stedman's Equipment and Surgery books ? N
Subject: BIG THANK YOU!!! Where could I find references besides Stedman's Equipment and Surgery books ? NM
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she found wrong answer on internet, she needs reference books
Subject: she found wrong answer on internet, she needs reference books
what is your purpose? to pounce?
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