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I don't think MT students are encouraged to use book.

Posted By: OldMT on 2008-11-04
In Reply to: I actually enjoy it when I can help out here!...sm - Cyndiee

Subject: I don't think MT students are encouraged to use book.

Most of the newbies I see don't really have any reference books.  Seems they rely entirely on the Internet and want to Google everything.  That's fine and it is fast.  But one day a newbie was working on tapes in the office and the Internet went down. OMG!!  She panicked!  She was totally lost, but funny thing . . . it never once occurred to her to pick up a reference book, even though we have a full set of Stedman Word Books, Dorland's, and brand new drug books in the office.  I do use Google, but there's times when you really need a book.


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    I'm going to open up a can of worms here...

    Just wondering thoughts on students posting for word help on this board. I have not been on this forum that long myself, but found it several months ago as I was working my way through the last of my MT coursework. While it was nice to have access to past posts for hints and clues, I used it as a resource much the same as the rest of the internet - not a way for someone else to tell me the answer, but just a way to help me find it myself by searching past posts. Just like I wouldn't have gone to wikianswers and posed a question I should research myself, I wouldn't post a question here when I could do the research myself.

    It seems to me that recently I have been seeing a lot of students asking for answers that are actually quite easily found with a simple search on Yahoo or Google. I even saw one post where the person downright admitted they were working on an exam and wanted someone to give them an answer. Myself, I feel that I am a better transcriptionist for having researched everything for myself when I was a student. Now that I am working, however, I am grateful for this forum! I also know that sometimes even plain English is hard to understand with some dictators, and it is wonderful to be able to use fellow MTs as a sounding board and source of wisdom when I just can't find the answer myself. Therefore, I don't want to sound like a hypocrite about using this forum as a resource.

    So, what are your thoughts, working MTs, on students posting for word help, especially when one can find the answer with a simple search?

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    Students
    Subject: Students

    I don't see a problem with it myself. Whether they ask here or Google, they will still come up with an answer. I think it would be easier to remember things if you had researched and done the necessary reading rather than have an answer thrown at you but we are all different and learn in different ways. IMHO, a student may as well do the research first because, even when getting an answer here, it would be best to check them out and you still wind up doing the research anyway. It would seem like double the work. But that's my take. :-)
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    Subject: I don't think students are supposed to

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    Subject: I agree, but it is not only students. Many

    answers could be found much faster than waiting on someone to give it to you by using google or some of the excellent medical sites that are available. Personally, I still use my Stedman's reference books. On a lot of things, books are a lot quicker when looking for something specific, rather than wading through all the possibilities you find on the internet. New MTs apparently don't buy books anymore and others are just waiting for people to give them the answer. I started when there was no internet and books were all we had.
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    Subject: Students cannot ask TEST QUESTIONS. Asking for help otherwise

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    Subject: Stedman's Medical Equipment terms book or the Ortho terms book would help. nm

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