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Anyone heard of sounds like coker's point?

Posted By: TJ on 2007-12-31
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re: Anyone heard of sounds like coker's point?
Subject: re: Anyone heard of sounds like coker's point?

Yes I have, it was performed on my sister Caroline.


I believe this was a part of a step in a whole procedure performed by a team of Swiss doctors flown into Loyola University Chicago in 1981.  Normally a procedure is named after the doctor whom performs the "new" technique, but in the case of a team working on a patient with a chance of high mortality, which does survive.  In late 1979 my sister was diagnosed with hydrocephalus.  She was 16.  The neuron surgeon here in Chicago (more so Arlington Heights, IL) at Northwest Community Hospital consulted with doctors overseas in regards to the procedure as a temporary solution till they reviewed the case.  She was being considered for a new medical treatment for hydrocephalus.  Most children diagnosed with hydrocephalus die at a young age prior to this time as there was no long term treatment.  Those who developed this later on, mostly in their teens is a result of growth spurs from puberty, or a tumor located on or near the Cerebral Aqueduct (of Sylvius).  This is what my sister’s condition was.  The tumor was slow growing, and located above the pituitary gland and near the Cerebral Aqueduct (of Sylvius).  The Doctor not understanding the procedure totally as explained in the overseas phone consult, mis-preformed the procedure.  Instead of entering the skull from the occipital (rear), he entered from the right side of the brain.  No noticeable damage at the time was done.  However, on April 1st, 1981, my sister after having a shunt implanted in her brain by the same doctor, whom performed her first surgery to relieve the pressure on the brain, had a stroke.  This now cause alarm as we believed she was out of danger.  She was rushed to Loyola University Chicago, where after extensive testing and numerous doctors overseeing her condition, they consulted with the doctors whom where developing the Cerebral Shunt for hydrocephalus.  The team from Switzerland were flown in and looked over all the tests and scans at that time, and in about 15 minutes or so, they say the problem was, a tumor in the previously mentioned spot.  The tumor was missed by my sister’s first doctor.  He also in his notes on the first surgery stated his entry point (on the right side of the skull) and that there was no blood in the cerebral fluid when drained to relieve pressure.  Although, the latest scans from when she was recently admitted, showed damage in the area of the entry point on the right side of the brain, a blood clot.  Not to mention, the shunt was laid on top of the tumor.  In all the doctors from Switzerland removed the tumor, corrected the position of the shunt, and reinserted the drainage tube from the shunt that had also become wrapped around my sister appendix the previous November which caused her to have Appendicitis.  For 2 years our family went thru hell from 1 bad doctor who most like was better off in a butcher shop.  I remember all this as I was young and my parents, mostly my mother, kept me around since it was the only way I was able to see her and my sister and father.  My memory, and I paraphrase what was said when my sister was released, that they (the doctors from Switzerland) would work on making sure that in the future, the procedure for relieving pressure on the brain from cerebral fluid would be understood clearly that the entry point would be from the rear, and in between the left and right lobes of the brain.  To my surprise, when I was online and looking up my family’s name, that the Kocher’s Point was the exact procedure that was to be made clear for other doctor’s.


 


In the end, The Doctor was sued, and lost his medical license, and ordered by the court not to pursue a career in the medical field and was barred from and contact from a position he would dispense any and all medical assistance.  My sister is still alive went to college, got married and has had 5 children even though she was advised to never have children due to the radiation treatment for the cancer/tumor, and the pressure on the shunt from labor.  In years past she has shown that her short term memory is weak and sometimes forgets things if she does not repeat what is said to her.  She is now in 2009, 46 years old.


Kocher's point is a common entry point for an intraventricular catheter to drain cerebral spinal
Subject: Kocher's point is a common entry point for an intraventricular catheter to drain cerebral spinal fluid from the cerebral ventricles.


Always typed end point. My Stedman's has end point.
Subject: Always typed end point. My Stedman's has end point.


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Heart sounds were normal intensity 1 and 2. *No S3 or S3 heard.* sm
Subject: Heart sounds were normal intensity 1 and 2. *No S3 or S3 heard.* sm

Could one of these S3s be F3? or something with a similar s/l? I can't document F3 though. New doc, but clearly states above.


Thanks for any help.


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Subject: Heart sounds were normal in intensity, S1 and S2. No S3 or S4 heard.


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Subject: Sounds all right. Have heard "hooked to gravity flow" before. (nomsg)

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EKG demonstrates normal sinus rhythm at 61 beats per minute with normal axes, normal intervals, J point elevation 1 and 0; otherwise, no ischemic changes.  


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Sometimes I think you can get to the point where
Subject: Sometimes I think you can get to the point where

Someone new at this might have to look-up a lot things.  Sometimes you just get to the end of your rope with researching especially when the doc isn't sounding too clear or the word is slurred.  We must support one another though not tear each other down.  Why can't people just go by the old saying of "if you do not have something nice to say then do not say anything at all".  To come off like a know it all proves what?  Absolutely nothing in my opinion.  Not everyone is up on everything. 
.062 (point 062)
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Subject: That's exactly the point...

I like it here, it's you who don't like it here, with all your complaining and bashing and nagging etc........

I think you are not getting it, you are missing the whole point of this discussion.

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She's got a good sense of humor about herself. LOL
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Very good point - never thought of it that way!  Thank you so much and if the doctor asks why I expanded her abbreviation I will explain it exactly like that!


Thank you so much!


axial point, maybe
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Yes, I know. The point is, he didn't SAY that sm
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Although he does mention "near the perforation" later in the report.


My point is, docs sometimes use the abbreviations they use in speaking in their reports as well. Most of the time I will type them out, but it bugs me either way - I like to type verbatim and not add anything the doc didn't say, but if he says it wrong, what are you going to do? (Except maybe leave him a message.)


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Subject: Could someone point me in the right direction please?

 11-year-old with neurofibromatosis, autism, and behavioral disorder. Doc states, "He is on a multiplicity of medications including lithium, S/L hel-a-trek-sone, Abilify, gabapentin, and Trileptal.


 


He very clearly states this drug just like the S/L above, but I am finding nothing of the sort. Thanks for looking!


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WHO HAS THE PROBLEM AGAIN??
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S/L
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almost like left and right BUT exam is for left side probem.. This one might get a blank. Thanks


could it be Kocher point?
Subject: could it be Kocher point?

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There is Kocher's point. sm
Subject: There is Kocher's point. sm


Neurosurgery - Fulltext: Volume 53(3) September 2003 p 778-780 ...





The ventricular catheter and shunt valve were placed through a burr hole at Kocher's point, and the distal end of the catheter was placed in the superior ...
www.neurosurgery-online.com/pt/re/neurosurg/fulltext.00006123-200309000-00028.htm;jsessionid=GKwVBXTBQDzc... - Similar pages

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Subject: Most are missing the point here. The poster...

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