A search of several web sites shows staging with numbers, not Roman numerals. nm
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grades = numbers; stages = Roman numerals....
Subject: grades = numbers; stages = Roman numerals....
Grades are arabic numbers and classes and stages are roman numerals.
Subject: Grades are arabic numbers and classes and stages are roman numerals.
FIGO staging is typed using roman numerals, such as FIGO I, II, etc., see inside.
Subject: FIGO staging is typed using roman numerals, such as FIGO I, II, etc., see inside.
Table 2: Carcinoma of the Vulva – Stage grouping
FIGO UICC
Stage T N M
0 Tis N0 M0
IA T1A N0 M0
IB T1B N0 M0
II T2 N0 M0
III T1 N1 M0
T2 N1 M0
T3 N1 M0
IVA T1 N2 M0
T2 N2 M0
T3 N2 M0
T4 Any N M0
IVB Any T Any N M1
1.1.2.3 Histopathologic types.
Squamous cell carcinoma is the most frequent form of cancer of the
vulva. Malignant melanoma is the second most common tumour and
should be reported separately. Other histopathologic types are:
– adenocarcinoma underlying Paget’s disease of vulva, verrucous
carcinoma, Bartholin gland carcinoma, adenocarcinoma not otherwise
specified (NOS), basal cell carcinoma.
• Histopathologic grades (G).
• Gx – Grade cannot be assessed;
• Gl – Well-differentiated;
• G2 – Moderately differentiated;
• G3 – Poorly or undifferentiated.
www.figo.org/docs/staging_booklet.pdf
Have always seen it as Roman numerals. nm
Subject: Have always seen it as Roman numerals. nm
Used to be roman numerals, now it is 2/6.
Subject: Used to be roman numerals, now it is 2/6.
NP does not know transcription rules.
Roman numerals not used much today...nm
Subject: Roman numerals not used much today...nm
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as I know it all stages are in roman numerals
Subject: as I know it all stages are in roman numerals
I've always used Roman Numerals.
Subject: I've always used Roman Numerals.
A good example are Salter-Harris fracture values which are always Roman Numerals.
I believe the type is in Roman numerals II nm
Subject: I believe the type is in Roman numerals II nm
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Through Wheeless it would be Roman numerals.
Subject: Through Wheeless it would be Roman numerals.
When I started, it was Roman Numerals
Subject: When I started, it was Roman Numerals
That was 30 years ago. Now they prefer Arabic numerals. I was rather disappointed; it was one of the few times you could trot out Roman numerals!
Roman numerals for stages are used
Subject: Roman numerals for stages are used
only for cancer the majority of the time. There are some exceptions, but the majority of the time it is roman numerals. For example, kidney disease is arabic, fractures are arabic. If it is not associated with cancer then it is more than likely arabic. You can always look it up and tell which is which, which is BOS2 suggests.
Certain conditions, etc. still use roman numerals
Subject: Certain conditions, etc. still use roman numerals
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Factors are written in roman numerals
Subject: Factors are written in roman numerals
I found this on google and in Vera Pyle's Current Medical Terminology. This is a great book. I have found a lot in here.
grades are numerals, stages always Roman
Subject: grades are numerals, stages always Roman
stage II-A but I don't know anything about that little *y* you left there - so I'd give them a blank there.........
stages are always roman numerals and grades are always numbers
stage IV, grade 4
Hope this helps somewhat - I've been doing oncology for 20 years..........next year....but MT'g for much longer *lol*
Schatzker II fracture (Roman numerals for this)
Subject: Schatzker II fracture (Roman numerals for this)
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TIMI III (roman numerals) flow.......nm
Subject: TIMI III (roman numerals) flow.......nm
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Cranial nerves are roman numerals II-XII. (nm)
Subject: Cranial nerves are roman numerals II-XII. (nm)
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aren't leads in Roman numerals?
Subject: aren't leads in Roman numerals?
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Stedman's says Roman numerals, such as Gravida I
Subject: Stedman's says Roman numerals, such as Gravida I
Not all stages are roman numerals, depends.
Subject: Not all stages are roman numerals, depends.
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heart murmur with roman numerals?
Subject: heart murmur with roman numerals?
I have always typed heart murmur (ex: 2/6 ejection murmur). However, I have a new NP who states it using roman numerals (II/VI ejection murmur). Which is correct? Thanks!
Not sure, but cranial nerves are Roman numerals.
Subject: Not sure, but cranial nerves are Roman numerals.
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grade 2 to 3 (grades are roman numerals).
Subject: grade 2 to 3 (grades are roman numerals).
Beaking is correct. I usually use a hyphen for in-between.
grade 2 to 3 (grades are roman numerals).
Subject: grade 2 to 3 (grades are roman numerals).
Beaking is correct. I usually use a hyphen for in-between.
leads = Roman numerals if I remember correctly
Subject: leads = Roman numerals if I remember correctly
Wrong. Not all stages are roman numerals anymore.
Subject: Wrong. Not all stages are roman numerals anymore.
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jGrade is arabic such as grade 1, and stages are Roman numerals.
Subject: jGrade is arabic such as grade 1, and stages are Roman numerals.
Standard leads are typically denoted by roman numerals.
Subject: Standard leads are typically denoted by roman numerals.
III (stages and classes are Roman numerals, grades are Arabic) nm
Subject: III (stages and classes are Roman numerals, grades are Arabic) nm
Use arabic numerals for all numbers.
Subject: Use arabic numerals for all numbers.
The current standard in transcription is to use arabic numerals (1, 2, 3...)for all numbers, even under the number 10, because they stand out on the page and are less likely to be overlooked or misinterpreted.
(BOS 3rd)
I was always taught that types & grades are arabic and classes & stages are Roman numerals. nm
Subject: I was always taught that types & grades are arabic and classes & stages are Roman numerals. nm
How do you type LeFort 2.5? Should be Roman numbers? TIA
Subject: How do you type LeFort 2.5? Should be Roman numbers? TIA
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doctor search sites...
Subject: doctor search sites...
Does anyone know of any really good sites to find doctors names/spellings in specific states?...I have referring doctors names that sound easy enough, but nothing comes up when searching. TIA.
I haven't either, but a search shows blades up to 18
Subject: I haven't either, but a search shows blades up to 18
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A Google search shows it's a Midas system. nm
Subject: A Google search shows it's a Midas system. nm
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A search shows it's very rare to get this organism. Wouldn't use it
Subject: A search shows it's very rare to get this organism. Wouldn't use it
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A search shows that Viagra IS prescribed for women, and with good
Subject: A search shows that Viagra IS prescribed for women, and with good
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Roman numerals, but "lead" would be "Lead"
Subject: Roman numerals, but "lead" would be "Lead"
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Search shows Endocatch-II or Endocatch Gold bags out there, too. nm
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Go to: www.grammarbook.com/numbers/numbers.asp
Subject: Go to: www.grammarbook.com/numbers/numbers.asp
staging
Subject: staging
stage IIA T2,M0,N0
staging
Subject: staging
T3 NX
staging
Subject: staging
You are welcome.
YP staging?
Subject: YP staging?
The patient has invasive breast cancer along with some DCIS, nad one positive lymph node out of nine.
Her final extent of disease was 5.9 cm with 3/13 lymph nodes. This gives her a pathologic stage of YP (T3 N1a M0).
I have never seen the YP before, and can't find it anywhere...is this a new staging or something I don't know about?
YP staging.....
Subject: YP staging.....
If you Google YP staging, it will bring up yp related to cancer stagings. I didn't really get into it to see what it meant, but I suspect you are hearing it right.
It is staging see below..
Subject: It is staging see below..
It is typed as ypT3, N1a, M0......The T is in regards to the primary tumor, the N is dealing with the lymph nodes and the M is if it is metastatic.
Here is a great website that will explain more about staging of tumors.
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/detection/staging
staging
Subject: staging
in cancer staging with Hodgkin's lymphoma do we use Roman or arabic numerals?
Or even T3 N0 staging? n/m
Subject: Or even T3 N0 staging? n/m
Staging...
Subject: Staging...
I work for a anatomic pathology lab and the doctor or pathologist gave me this as a reference, hope it helps. The doctor specified using commas in between staging.
This tends to be a problem knowing exactly how to transcribe these, so here's a reference chart for you.
CANCER STAGES/GRADES:
STAGES are in Roman numerals - I, II, III, IV
GRADES are numbers (and capital letters) - 1, 2, 3; 1A, 2B
STAGING are: T, N, M with numbers (and possibly lower case letters) i.e., T1, T1a; N1, N1b, M0
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System for staging malignant tumors, developed by the American Joint Committee on Cancer and the Union Internationale Contre le Cancer.
T tumor size or involvement
N regional lymph node involvement
M extent of metastasis
Write TNM expressions with on-line arabic numerals and commas, spacing after the commas.
T2, N1, M1
T4, N3, M1
Letters and symbols following the letter T, N. and M:
X means assessment cannot be done.
0 indicates no evidence found.
Numbers indicate increasing evidence of the characteristics represented by those letters.
Tis indicates in situ tumor.
Tis, NO, M0
The TNM system criteria for defining cancer stages vary according to the tyype of cancer. Thus a stage II cancer of one type may be efined as T1 N0 M0, while one of another type may be defined as T2 N1 M0.
Staging indications are used along with TNM criteria to define cancers and assess stages. These are expressed with capital letters and arabic numerals.
grade GX, G1, G2, G3, G4
host performance H0, H1, H2, H3, H4
lymphatic invasion LX, L0, L1, L2
residual tumor RX, R0, R1, R2
scleral invasion SX, S0, S1, S2
venous invasion VX, V0, V1, V2
Prefixes:
Lowercased prefixes with TNM and other symbols indicate criteria used to describe and stage the tumor. Please the prefix on-line, e.g.,
cTNM, aT2.
LETTER determining criteria
a autopy staging
c clinical classification
p pathological classification
r retreatment classification
y, yp classification during or following treatment with multiple modalities.
Suffixes:
The suffix (m)(in parentheses) indicates the presence of multiple primary tumors in a single site.
Other suffixes may be used, such as the following in the nasopharynx:
T2a nasopharyngeal tumor extending to soft tissues of oropharynx and/or nasal fossa without parapharyngeal extension.
T2b nasopharyngeal tumor extending to soft tissues of oropharynx and/or nasal fossa with parapharyngeal extension.
Staging
Subject: Staging
THANKS A BUNCH.....this is a great reference. I've already saved it in a file. Thanks again.
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