you aren't reasoning out issues, you are being downright rude, crude, and nasty. nm
Posted By: MT and worn out on 2008-09-08
In Reply to: really of little or no consequence - sally
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HRC supporters downright nasty
Watched some of the DNC hearing (or whatever it was called). I was utterly disgusted with the supporters of HRC. She said she wanted the delegates seated. Well they are going to be seated! So what's the problem now? Oh - I get it, they want everything and they want it their way or no way. They just want to be placed in the position whether or not they got more votes. They are not playing fair. First they want the delegates seated - they are. They want their votes to count - they are. But because HRC does not get every single vote and Barack with none they are going to keep pushin it. You want to talk about just looking like a bunch of spoiled losers that is surely what they are. And what are they screaming about. As some lady said "a black man came and took it away from HRC". Well boo hoo. You want to talk about downright biggots - there you go! First you have the comments about Jesse Jackson by Billy boy, then you've got the "I'll win because white working people will vote for me and not a black man" statement by HRC. I'm tellin ya, they are really gearing up for a racial war. She lost, fair and square. End of discussion! The media if anything always gave her the benefit of the doubt. Gave her the easy questions at the debate, and certainly favored her, but now its just obvious she is a spoiled sport and sore loser. Well for all the ones who say they'll never vote for a black man, there are a hundred more who will not vote for that woman. Sure we'll one day vote in a woman in the white house but not her! I know there were many other qualified women who should have run. Why didn't they? Seems like the Clintons once again pulled "something funny" so she would be placed in there. Anyway...that's my rant for the evening. She just disgusts me and a lot of people I know and we are all anxious for her to just go home. Sure, go ahead, take it to the convention, but she better be prepared for the outcome. She lost, fair and square. More people and more delegates voted for Obama. Someone needs to set her figures straight. I guess if you don't count a bunch of states that Obama won then she can say she won, but I know she'd have a fit if Obama left out some of the states she won and said "See I won, we just won't count New York, Ohio and Calfornia (or any other combination of states she won). You want to talk about disenfranchizing people. She's just coming right out and saying "oh this states is important because I won so we have to count their votes, but this state over here that Obama won in, those people are not important, their votes don't count". Like I've said before....HRC go back to living under that rock you crawled out from. We're sick of you.
Wow, what a crude rebuttal!
I thought this site was for discussions, not crystal ball fortune-telling and sleezy name-calling. But, like you said, differing opinions.
how pathetic your crude jokes continue to be...nm
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That is downright obscene AND depressing. nm
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And that was a crude, ignorant, presumptuous, pompous remark.....sm
which seems to abound with many on the right who are on the defensive regarding our situation, how we got here (hello, why weren't you screaming at Bush during two administrations as we all crashed and burned and thousands of lives were being lost in Iraq, an illegal, immoral, opportunistic war)??? You know absolutely NOTHING about me, my past, or my politics so please get some class and intelligence, frivolous, mindless attacks are soooooo overdone.
And that was a crude, ignorant, presumptuous, pompous remark.....sm
which seems to abound with many on the right who are on the defensive regarding our situation, how we got here (hello, why weren't you screaming at Bush during two administrations as we all crashed and burned and thousands of lives were being lost in Iraq, an illegal, immoral, opportunistic war)??? You know absolutely NOTHING about me, my past, or my politics so please get some class and intelligence, frivolous, mindless attacks are soooooo overdone.
Not funny.....downright amazing. It doesn't...
matter WHAT he says. But at least he kisses them first. LOL.
He's getting downright scary, kind of unstable appearing. (NT)
:-(
Rude, rude post. (nm)
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Wow, the vitriolic statements, insults, and downright hate being shown....sm
 on this board today (not unlike any other day, really), is amazing. Okay, we all have our ideals, our belief system, etc. But this board is a sad, tragic, IF very minute microcosm of why this country is so far in the dirt.........educated adults who will hate, insult, stamp their feet, stick out their tongues, and spew garbage rhetoric, RATHER THAN join with the country, the new president, the senate, congress, etc., and try to be part of the SOLUTION instead of the PROBLEM. We will NEVER fix this country, whether we have a democrat, republican, or independent in office, with pure hate and spite. This is a chance for a new start. Why not wait and see, why not pray for the president, teh cabinet, the Congress, and the whole nation, and try to work in our own ways for change. While we are busy hating each other, we are strengthening the real enemies out there who truly want to harm us. Everybody grow up. Both my parents went through the Great Depression, and I grew up knowing and seeing it written on their faces just how awful it was to try to live through. Instead of arguing and namecalling while the country teeters on the egde, why not TRY, why not wait to see before condemnining, why not see what each one of us, in our little lives, can do to help???
It is cold comfort to point fingers and laugh at the "other side" when both sides are falling into the abyss that is the growing national debt, growing unemployment, plunging stock market, while still mired in wars we cannot pay for. Discussing political ideologies, hopes, fears, and issues is great, pure scathing hate and animosity will insure more failure. Can you all not put our beautiful country ahead of everything else, the future of our kids and grandkids, stop childish fighting, and become part of the SOLUTION instead of the PROBLEM? Please?
Issues people, issues. I need issues
I'm not seeing any discussion about issues. Can we stick to the issues. Jeeze - I want to hear good and bad about both candidates but with facts to back whatever is being said.
P-L-E-A-S-E.....I want issues. How can I make any kind of determinatons about who I'm going to vote for if I don't hear about the issues. Reading some of this I'm thinking I'd get more truth if I read the National Enquirer.
So, by that reasoning....
how many Americans would be excluded from this club?
There's no reasoning with them when they
Reasoning? Not here.
Aside from the fact that I find it distateful and unhelpful to rehearse pure policy disputes over presidential appointments, it is "terrible" reasoning to derive objections to Ogden's presumptive policies as Deputy AG from a brief he submitted on behalf of a client.
Reasoning........... sm
The man is not family-oriented in the instance that he argued FOR p*rnography and that schools and libraries should not be allowed to filter such filth from their users. I don't know about you, but I sure don't want my kid to be able to surf p*rn sites while at school or at the public library. I don't need any reason beyond that to oppose the appointment of David Ogden to DAG, and frankly I am shocked and disappointed in anyone who feels otherwise.
There is no reasoning with anyone who would
unbelievable...
By your own reasoning............... sm
MT companies should take their business back into the confines of their headquarters and stop employing people at home. Going by your barometer, our work would make our homes a business.
You can bet if that were to ever happen, this board would become a ghosttown and there would be a lot of unhappy MTs.
I don't follow your reasoning...because there are a lot of
gays you think God made them that way? Years ago, sex before marriage was unheard of, but so many people over the years have done it openly now it is accepted. The Bible speaks frankly against it. Same with adultery. The Bible speaks frankly against it. People still do it. And it is still wrong. The Bible speaks against homosexuality. People still do it, it is still wrong. More people kill and steal nowadays. Does that make it right? There are more serial killers today than 20 years ago. Does that make it okay? I believe you are rationalizing. Why would God call something an abomination and then make people that way? That is like saying people are thieves because God made them that way...people are killers because God made them that way...sorry, we will have to agree to disagree big time on that kind of reasoning.
with unsound reasoning
her reasoning was unsound as well - dear
Obama's reasoning for not
having his hand over his heart is that he said they were not saying the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag when that picture was taken. He said that the Star-Spangled Banner was being played or sung and states he was not raised to put his hand over his heart during the national anthem.....only when you pledge to the flag. That was his reason. I know his grandparents lived in Hawaii and he spent some years living in Indonesia living with his muslim step father, but even so........I've always been taught to put my hand over my heart during the national anthem as well as during the pledge. Maybe he truly wasn't taught to do that, but given all the experiene he claims to have in government, you would think he would hold the national anthem dear to his heart and put his hand over his heart like everyone else on that stage did during the Star-Spangled Banner. Take it as you will.
Don't confuse them with reasoning.
You've given REASONS why you're glad Bush is out and Obama is in.
They don't understand REASON and common sense. It's something scary and foreign to them. So they call it cult worship. This very thinking is something that will get Obama killed, and when it does, each of these morons on this board will have blood on their hands.
Nobody can reason with these people. I'm personally tired of visiting this board and being brought down by all the UN-American posts I see.
I'm interested in having a better life. All visiting this board does is show me enormous ignorance concentrated into one little site. There are other sites where people make sense.
This site is starting to become too toxic and hazardous to my health. I'll check back in a month or so, and if no common decency has returned, then there's no point in my coming back here any more.
Here is my stance and my reasoning
for what I said above. Government shouldn't have 80% of AIG. They should have let AIG fall on its face. They shouldn't have given them money in the first place.
Here is a little blurp I've copied: I will provide the link below.
On March 5, New York Fed officials forwarded to the Treasury Department a summary of AIG’s bonus and retention payment issues, including details of the retention program for officials of the Financial Products. This information included that $165 million in payments were expected that very month, as well as the fact that the contracts were in place in the first quarter of 2008, and so not covered by the limitations in the stimulus bill as articulated by an amendment to the stimulus bill offered by Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn.
As ABC News' Capitol Hill Correspondent Jonathan Karl reported, in February, the Senate unanimously approved an amendment restricting bonuses over $100,000 at any company receiving federal bailout funds, but during the closed-door House and Senate negotiations the provision was stripped out and replaced with a measure by Dodd exempting bonuses agreed to prior to the passage of the stimulus bill on February 11, 2009.
You can read the whole article at this link: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/03/obama-adminis-1.html
So this basically shows that these bonuses were pushed through by Dodd and so the government had its hand in giving out these bonuses and now they are going to turn around and take that away. It is a contract. I understand that AIG got butt loads of money from the government.....which was wrong in the first place.....but don't you see how scary it is for our government to have this kind of control and power. To give and take away at the drop of a hat. To null and void a contract that someone in government (Dodd) pushed through to make happen and then they turn around and want to tax it to death or just take it from them.
Why in the he!! did Dodd get this slipped in there in the first place? that is the real question. This wouldn't even be an issue. Dodd slips this in because he received the highest amount of money from AIG. So of course he wanted to pay back the hand that fed him...so to speak. And guess who had the second highest amount of contributions from AIG.....Barrack Obama..... So Dodd slips this through and allows a loophole for the AIG execs to get their big ars bonuses and now that it has gone public and people are furious......now government wants to take control and make them give the money back. Isn't it the governments fault in the first place....first for bailing them out and then for letting this loophole slip by to pay back AIG for contributions to campaigns.
This is why our government sucks. They don't care about Americans. All they care about is getting money back to the groups, etc. who contributed money to their campaign. That is why we can't get away from wasteful spending and earmarks.
Sp be it, but your line of reasoning is skewed
What if a sex offender was running loose in your neighborhood. What if he had raped a child 10 years ago, went to jail with a slap on the wrist (like what happens these days), and got out in ten years. He shows up in your neighborhood, and you see him out on his porch everyday when the school bus arrives and leaves. Not only is he leering at the school kids he's making outrageous comments on a daily basis. Would you say, *Oh, he went to prison. He did his time. Hopefully, he's rehabilited. Yes, he's a little strange and outrageous, but so far, as far as we know, he's not touched a kid again so we need to leave him alone.*
Would you trust this guy? Especially if you then found out he has a *rape room* in his house? What if his sons were running around the neighborhood reeking havoc and doing the same things but in a more merciless way and you found out they were going to inherit his house when he died?
Well, this correlates very well with Saddam. Almost too closely in fact. Like many of you say here on a daily basis, the world is our neighborhood, and in many neighborhoods there are bullies, and they don't quit being bullies until you take them out. It's just the way the world works.
Here's my reasoning on stem cell research
It's not been made illegal, it's simply not funded with federal money, i.e. taxpayers money. The pendulum has swung so far to the other side. There are lots of people who have serious objections to abortions and also stem cell research, because of their objection to using live embryos. People who want abortions have them paid for by people who don't believe in them. That's unfair. So, let the private market do the stem cell research and leave the taxpayers out of it. If you feel very strongly about it, donate your own money to those doing it in the private market.
Gotta love the reasoning of these pirates
'Killing our boys was aggression.' I guess you're just supposed to pay them the money and let them keep pirating. Nobody was ever supposed to fight back.
And, as they have threatened to 'deal harshly' with any US or French sailors they capture in the future, is there any reason why now we should not simply hunt down and blast each and every one of them out of the water? None that I can think of. I think they just declared war on us.
So Christians aren't supposed to political? Or we aren't supposed to let our morality, faith
our conscience guide us politically?
I'm sorry, that is a separation I cannot make. My faith and religious convictions are part of the whole person that I am. I vote my conscience. I want political leaders who reflect my morality. I also happen to believe there are many Christians out there like me. There is no "separation" of church and state for me, which by the way was a concept (nowhere specifically mentioned in the constitution) meant to protect the church from the government more so than the government from the church.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that commercial. There are condom commercials, "personal" lubricant commercials, and penis and sexual performance enhancing commercials -- why would anyone be offended by a pro-life commercial? The fact that anyone would be offended is a testament to just how twisted society has become!
You are so right, question everything, it is the blind condemnation and deafness to reasoning that i
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HOW RUDE! SM
You people have no right to talk about anyone else being rude! You have a corner on the market.
Know what is rude
Rude is sending our brave military into harms way for nothing, rude is lying to the American people about the reasons, rude is causing the biggest deficit our country has ever seen and spending away our surplus that President Clinton gave us, rude is dividing this country when he claimed he was a uniter not a divider.
Rude
They come over here and pretend to be holier than thou and then run back to the Conservative board and trash us. Go read it. It's quite amusing. While you're at it, why not read the entire board and count the number of civil posts that seem to be written by someone over the age of 5. You don't have to hurry, though, because all their juvenile hateful tirades will be there forever and will never be deleted.
You should probably read the posts on this board first, because as we've all seen during this week, they stand a good chance of being deleted. As has been demonstrated on the Liberal board, you're permitted to have your freedom of opinion and expression......as long as it's the "right" one.
You are very rude. sm
I was not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone, but trying to have a conversation. I was respectful at all times. It explains why there are only a few posters here. Good day!
AG has been very rude lately... :( nm
That was rude
I was simply saying I didn't know what you were talking about. Care to explain instead of being insulting?
How rude you are. nm
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WOW that was rude!!!
I guess the radical dems on this board (not the regular, respectful, nonbashing dems) will never listen to reason or a participate in a good debate because they know they are right always and forever, no matter what the subject.....what kind of democracy is that? NOT.
okay, I am rude, but
You don't get a vote. It is an American election. And even though I am so liberal you all would puke, I am tired of our American arms stretched so far over the world that we don't take care of our own anymore.
Now that's just rude!
Just because someone doesn't believe the way you do doesn't give you the right to be so mean! Get a grip on yourself!
I'm sorry if I came across as rude. Outraged is more like it.
Outraged that a handful of Republican politicians would sell out American troops to a bunch of terrorists, even in a symbolic gesture. Outraged that their lives should be used in a political stunt. This is very frustrating for me. I think our lawmakers should support our troops in every way possible, and I believe it's unacceptable to agree to amnesty for anyone who kills our troops.
We have already far exceeded our budget to the limit because of this needless personal war of George W. Bush. We provided Iraqis with free medical care. We will be supplying them with countless more money for decades to come. Our troops continue to be killed and wounded. I don't care what the political stakes are. Under NO CIRCUMSTANCE should their lives be used as pawns any more than they already have been. For God's sake, don't they deserve the support (regardless of how symbolic it is) from ALL members of the party that sent them there?
I posted comments by two lawmakers regarding this, but you didn't choose to address the content of what I posted. I've noticed that happens a lot on these boards. When someone posts anything questioning another's viewpoint, particularly if they corroborate their views, instead of debating the issue, all they do is become indignant, call names and then pretend to leave. If that's your communication style preference, you'd feel right at home on the Conservative Board.
I asked you to enlighten me. Instead of doing so, you became angry, called me rude, picked up your toys and left the playground.
I'm asking you again to enlighten me because nowhere did I see it written that this is to take effect once we leave. Please provide a link to that effect. If you'd like to debate the issue, please do so. I agree with Harold Ford that this was nothing more than a stunt. Do you think this will boost the morale of our soldiers? What are your views? Please share them. Or not.
Your choice.
Wow - you sure are rude - see message
1. How did I become an MT? Two years of schooling and 10 years of experience honey.
2. This is not a medical report I'm typing. Makes me wonder how you became an MT if you don't even know the difference between a medical report and this website where we can give our opinions and ask questions without the worry of being persecuted.
3. I read many websites and I don't always see the "respective parties" capitalized.
4. Leave your QA'ing at the door or else don't come here at all.
5. You must be one uptight (r)epublican because the (d)emocrats chose an excellent candidate and it's just too bad that the (r)epublicans will be losing this fall. Oh wait, I just read your post again. You are a (r)epublican and your true colors came out.
6. As the poster below (who did her research) stated, Hawaii is one of the United States which makes him a natural born citizen. If you didn't know that Hawaii was a state then how did you even graduate from high school and if you didn't graduate high school how did you even become an MT.
That is rather rude and inappropriate.
You don't touch strangers like that and you don't make comments about their muscles or lack thereof. He should know better.
Let us hope that when Obama and Biden sit down to talk to terrorists that Biden doesn't reach over and tug on Obama's beard and tell him he needs a trim or shave. LOL!
No, it was RUDE and inappropriate.
If you can't see that, then your thinking and reasoning must be warped.
And it is not RUDE and inappropriate to
say my thinking and reasoning are warped because it is different than yours?
Wow you are so horribly rude
and really immature for an ADULT.
Have you ever read the Bible or attended a service or sat down and talked with a pastor with an open mind? No, I doubt it.
I think you are brainwashed by the jaded people of this world.
Just keep on down the broad path...I promise it'll start to get real hot soon!
we have now gone way past rude..
to downright disgusting. It probably also take a MENSA brain to call someone else pathetic, little, loser because they don't think the same as you. Give it a rest already people.
rude you are. Calling
someone an 'old man' is showing a complete lack of respect.
I'm sorry but the way you worded it was rude. nm
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Rude and uncalled for.
Everyone has a right to their own thoughts. If you cannot reply with a constructive opposing view point, why bother replying?
You're being rude and obnoxious and I prefer to not
who simply doesn't "get it."
If you feel that invading Iraq is protecting our borders with Mexico, then you are direly in need of a geography course.
Buh-bye.
I found it rude and disrespectful. sm
But that's a liberal for ya!
Speaking of rude and disrespectful...
I wonder if you felt the same way about Don Imus when he roasted Bill and Hillary Clinton when he was in Colbert's place back a few years ago?
Oh, I bet it's only rude and disrepectful when it is directed towards a Republican, right?
newish to this board, why do you have to be rude?
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