yeah, and I've got this land for sale in Florida..

• Redistribution of wealth... - sm
  • When I was in college - Zville MT
    • That is different - Lilly
    • Just proves one thing. s/m - gourdpainter
      • Way too quick to judge! - Zville MT
    • Love it love it love!!!! - Chele
    • Good one! Thanks for sharing. nm - LOL
  • Seems even GREENSPAN is rethinking your scheme. - "It was a mistake to think that....sm
  • Democracy Obama-style! Great post. Thanks. - nm
  • It has always been that way - Dee
  • Good post. I think you made your point! - Chele
  • I think everyone is misunderstanding what he means... - Love shorthand
    • I wouldn't call it misunderstanding. s/m - gourdpainter
    • yeah, and I've got this land for sale in Florida.. - dnh
      • It never ceases to amaze me of the sheep in this world. - Love shorthand
  • Terrific experiment...NOT s/m - gourdpainter
  • But it's ok when - Lara
    • SInce when has a Democrat made a poor person wealthy?? - Sparks
      • Since when has a Republican? (Unless you - happen to be his brother...)
        • It's called hard work and get off your butt - and try!!!! NM
        • Her point is that Obama voted repeatedly against tax breaks for the middle class and suddenly he' - Mojo
          • Did he really vote that way? NO - Dee
            • Yes he did in the middle of the night - like a thief NM
            • I have never in my life seen a group of people in such denial over EVERYTHING!! Get your heads out - of the sand!!!!
            • YES HE DID VOTE TO RAISE YOUR TAXES - MIDDLE CLASS sm
            • You need to pay attention - sm
          • Just proof that Obama really isn't out for the middle class. - Chele
            • Ah Chele, I like you but - gourdpainter
              • Awww....you like me? LOL! - Chele
                • Yes, I like you and more - gourdpainter
  • Excellent - good for you. The truth sure hurts! - Kaydie
  • What a great post......good for you! - sm
  • Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... - No Sale

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Whatever the U.S. does or doesn't do where Israel and the middle east is involved is irrelevant.  The land of Israel is THE promised land.  It belongs to the Jews.  They have had to fight for it against odds stacked against them and have won.

It's really kind of pathetic.

Rachel Maddow on MSNBC has been doing a segment during her shows called *Lame Duck Watch.*  Just look on the web for the Rachel Maddow Show.

Lurker had the courage to try to debate you, tried to ignore your rude comments and personal attacks.  Yes, your intelligent debate triggered responses by Lurker, as follow:

Please do not preach at me and tell me I don't understand the concept of working for a living. I try my best not to berate or belittle anyone on this board and I would appreciate the same consideration.

I can see from her above post why you're so happy.  Looks like you succeeded in chasing her away for a while, too.

Stupid should hurt.  As much as ya'll scream and whine it must.

 Everytime you end up with egg on your face.  It's really hilarious to sit back and watch liberals have a victory party before there's even any court hearings or before the political chips can fall.  Oh the chips are going to fall, but I doubt they'll be where you want them to be.

Not bad for a town whose population is 70,000 people.

http://news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080921/NEWS0107/80921022

(CNN) -- A Florida circuit judge Tuesday struck down a 31-year-old state law that prevents gays and lesbians from adopting children, allowing a North Miami man to adopt two half-brothers he and his partner have raised as foster children since 2004.

"There is no question, the blanket exclusion of gay applicants defeats Florida's goal of providing dependent children a permanent family through adoption," Judge Cindy S. Lederman wrote in her 53-page ruling.

"The best interests of children are not preserved by prohibiting homosexual adoption."

The state attorney general's office has appealed the decision.

Lederman said there is no moral or scientific reason for banning gays and lesbians from adopting, despite the state's arguments otherwise. The state argued that gays and lesbians have higher odds of suffering from depression, affective and anxiety disorders and substance abuse, and that their households are more unstable.

Lederman said the ban violated children's right to permanency provided under the Florida statute and under the federal Adoption and Safe Families Act of 1997. Whether the ban violated the state's equal protection clause by singling out gays and lesbians should be considered, she said.

Lederman's ruling paves the way for Martin Gill to legally adopt the two half-brothers, ages 4 and 8, whom he has cared for since December 2004, the American Civil Liberties Union said.

The two boys, who are referred to as John and James Doe in court documents, were removed from their homes on allegations of abandonment and neglect.

On that December evening, John and James left a world of chronic neglect, emotional impoverishment and deprivation to enter a new world, foreign to them, that was nurturing, safe, structured and stimulating," Lederman wrote.

In 2006, the children's respective fathers' rights were terminated, court documents said, and they remained in the care of Gill and his partner.

"Our family just got a lot more to be thankful for this Thanksgiving," Gill said Tuesday, according to the ACLU, which represented him.

Florida is the only state that specifically bans all "homosexual" people from adopting children, although it does allow them to be foster parents.

This month, Arkansas voters approved a ballot measure to prohibit unmarried partners -- same-sex or opposite-sex couples -- from adopting children or from serving as foster parents. The measure is similar to one in Utah, which excludes same-sex couples indirectly through a statute barring all unmarried couples from adopting or taking in foster children.

Mississippi allows single gays and lesbians to adopt, but prohibits same-sex couples from adopting.

Neal Skene, spokesman for the Florida Department of Children and Families, said the appeal was filed so a statewide resolution on the law could be determined by an appellate court. He noted that another Florida circuit judge declared the law unconstitutional this year but that ruling had not been appealed.

"We need a statewide determination by the appellate courts," he said.

Gill's adoption petition cannot be approved until the appeal process is finished, Skene said, but the children will remain in Gill's home.

"These are wonderful foster parents," Skene said. "It's just that we have a statute, [and] the statute is very clear on the issue of adoption."

Several organizations -- including the National Adoption Center, the American Medical Association, the American Psychological Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics -- have said that having gay and lesbian parents does not negatively affect children.

The Evan B. Donaldson Adoption Institute, a nonprofit organization that studies adoption and foster care, hailed the decision.

"This ban, which was the only one of its kind in the country, has done nothing but undermine the prospects of boys and girls in the foster care system to get permanent, loving homes," said Adam Pertman, the Adoption Institute's executive director, in a written statement.

"So this decision by Judge Lederman is a very important, hopeful ruling for children who need families."

I don't believe for a minute that this was written by an executive of any company.  Just more right-wing propaganda, but way too late.  The horse has already left the barn!

I don't subscribe to the idea that your life is going to come crashing down around you because 2 guys in California get married.  Since you reject the idea of gay marriage so much, I would assume that you don't associate with any homosexuals.  Well guess what?  If they are allowed to get married, you still don't have to associate with them.  You don't have to see them, talk to them, live around them, or go to their weddings.  So what do you care if they get married, other than wanting to just butt into someone else's life and force your beliefs on everyone else?

I wonder....Do you scrutinize the relationships of your straight friends and tell them what they can and cannot do?

From PW

This small piece of land has always been barren and squalid until 1967 when after the Arabs failed in yet another imperialist attempt to destroy the Jewish state, Israel took it over. Since then 8,000 brave pioneers have resided in a portion of Gaza. They settled in on infertile beach sand and were told by everyone that nothing had ever grown there and nothing ever would. Instead, what they accomplished was an agricultural miracle. Utilizing advanced technology which they invented, they made the sand blossom and built greenhouses that produce chemical-free bug-free organic produce that is shipped around the world and renown for its incredible quality and taste.

Now if a Muslim country had taken over this land they would have expelled all the 'infidels'. But the Jewish settlers came with garlands of peace, hope and opportunity. The greenhouses they built employ Palestinians at wages far higher than they would make under any Arab dictatorship, and have forged true bonds of harmony and friendship:

Saed, a 42-year-old greenhouse worker who commutes every day from Khan Yunis, said, For me, it's a really good life. I make enough money to feed my family. I am close with my bosses, who treat me with respect. I don't want to be out of a job. Fhaud, 63, a greenhouse supervisor, said he has grown attached to his Jewish employers. I've known my boss since he was a kid and I worked for his father, he said. Some workers here have known three generations of Jewish families. I was invited to all the bar mitzvahs and weddings. Mahmoud, who works in the same greenhouse, said, I don't want the disengagement to go through. Not just because I'll lose a job, but because I'll lose friends.

So Jews and Arabs working together, turning the desert green. In a sane world we would be commending these Jewish settlers for sowing real seeds of peace. Of course, this is not a sane world, for next week all this has to be dismantled and turned over to Islamic terrorists in the name of 'peace'. For the first time in world history a country is going to forcibly remove its own people and give land over to its sworn enemies.

So now that the poor Palestinians of Gaza are to be freed from their 'occupation', are they rejoicing in their independence and making plans to plow their energies into building communities and farms and schools and infrastructure? Are they preparing to serve as a model to the world that a country under Islamic law with a fresh start and no colonial 'imperialists' can succeed? Are they ready to turn their state into a free and prosperous Palestinian country?

At a mass rally in Gaza City last Thursday, some 10,000 Palestinians danced, sang, and chanted, Today Gaza, tomorrow Jerusalem. Jamal Abu Samhadaneh, commander of Gaza's Popular Resistance Committees, announced on Sunday, We will move our cells to the West Bank and warned that The withdrawal will not be complete without the West Bank and Jerusalem. The Palestinian Authority's Ahmed Qurei also asserts, Our march will stop only in Jerusalem. Meanwhile Hamas has officially announced that they will continue its war to destroy Israel by launching Qassam rockets at Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and communities in Judea and Samaria. We're sure they'll be making full use of their new seaport to import weapons and munitions to keep the carnage coming.

What's becoming clear is how the religion of Islam is addicted to war and mayhem. Not a radical minority, not a rogue sect, but its very essence is about submission and sacrifice and proving your worth by worshipping death in this life to gain a paradise of orgies and drunkenness. Their entire history is of warfare, and any accomplishments of their so-called Golden Age has been proven to be merely parasitic off the cultures they've conquered and reduced to dhimmi servitude. That every country under sharia is corrupt, belligerent, desolate and barbaric obviously gives them no pause, except to constantly drive them into further psychotic rage as they refuse to ever accept any responsibility for their conditions. They are akin to the powers in Orwell's 1984; there must always be an enemy. It's no surprise that women are treated like property in these countries as that's the only way Muslim men can feed their egos, to dominate others rather than ever actually produce something.

What a victory for these people that their terrorism has paid off, with Western intellectuals cheering them on. You can only wonder how many youth who have been brainwashed from birth in the madrassas and draped in their culture of bomb-worship and martyrdom will join the global jihad as it now appears they actually have a chance to win. While our soldiers at Guantanamo have to wear rubber gloves when handing out Korans, it's pretty reasonable for them to conclude that the West is ready to fall and the global caliphate is a real possibility. Israel's retreat from Gaza will certainly do wonders for their recruiting.

The solution is pretty simple.  If you don't like the liberal sermon, then don't attend the liberal church.

Other than that, I couldn't care less what you think.  Have a nice day.