with that "better than thou" attitude
Posted By: Emily Ayn on 2008-12-17
In Reply to: Please explain....(sm) - Just the big bad
i have nothing to say
Im not surprised you voted Obama. i bet your nose is turned up right now
If you can't figure out what i mean, surely you are the kind of person I could trust to know how the economy got this way and what to do to save it...
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I agree. The "better than thou" snobbery
really full of hate but not productive of anything positive
Your holier than thou attitude....(sm)
is quite amazing. Exactly how do you know that Obama was not sent by God, or as you would say, that the will of mankind by choosing Obama is not in line with the will of God? Has, per chance, your god bestowed upon you the gift of seeing into the future? If this is not the case, exactly what do you base your assumptions about the job Obama will do on? Maybe its because you have bought into the fear doctrine of Bush so much that you can't see beyond it.
You said, *If you believe for one minute that Obama is going to change the way that Iran or any other country in the middle east view America you are very, very naive. The only thing Obama will accomplish will be to weaken this country in an effort to make us more "likeable" to the world and in the end the only thing we will be is weak*
I would love to hear your definition of *weak.* From what I can gather from your posts, weak in your eyes is the unwillingness to use force first. So, what is so wrong with diplomacy? Is your only response to a situation the *shoot first and ask questions later* mentality? Believe it or not, there is strength in the ability to negotiate and compromise with others. Since you base everything on religion, what does your Bible say about that? Does it not teach compassion and understanding? Of have you just interpreted it in a manner that suits you personally?
Do I believe Obama will put an end to offshoring American jobs? I believe that is his goal, unlike Bush and McCain who both supported tax breaks for companies overseas who do that exact thing. Look up their voting records.
*How can he make America liked and respected by other countries, and take away a source of income for so many in third world countries?* It's called FAIR TRADE. Look it up. Maybe you didn't pay attention to what Obama was saying during his campaign. Did you even listen to him, or did you just get the Fox rendition? I would be willing to bet that those *third world countries* know more about his policies than you do, and yet they overwhelmingly support him.
And then there's the middle east. Everyone says they don't want Iran to have nukes. I agree, but I also don't want anyone else to have nukes either. You would argue that Iran is too radical to be trusted with them. I would say the same thing about Israel and the US. Under Bush's reign we have started 2 major wars and are presently funding Israel in its war to the tune of about over 2 billion a year in direct military support. Put yourself in someone else's shoes for a while. If you lived in Iran (a democratic state), you saw this behavior, and you know you are labeled as *next* on the Bush hit list, wouldn't you be trying to arm up?
Now I know you're going to say that each and every one of those wars was justified, but you are sooo wrong it's ridiculous. Israel -- They have been bullying everyone over there for years in the name of the holy land and are currently killing civilians at an alarming rate. Iraq -- An unjust war, to say the least. And then there's Afghanistan, which was supposed to be retaliation for 9/11. Why do you think 9/11 happened? Do you think before 9/11 that everyone in the world just loved the US? News flash -- No, they didn't. The US has been meddling in the middle east for years on end (which included putting people like Saddam in power). So, you think that the Bush administration had no way of seeing it coming. Maybe you missed this interview. It's very enlightening.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5TkWGsmZF0
And yet, you would say that Bush has *kept us safe.* What a joke!
Amazingly, you call me naive when I am the one looking at the facts, and all you have are innuendos, rumors and guesses about what may happen. Unfounded fears about the future do nothing for the progression of society. The sooner you learn that, the sooner you will be able to see the truth.
So just imagine how much "better" things will be for all
In our 'great' economy, we'll have:
- Gasoline that is unaffordable to all but the wealthy.
- Blackened coastlines from offshore drilling.
- Few living-wage jobs left in the U.S.
- More foreign missles (and passenger jets) aimed at our cities.
- The likely loss of a woman's control over her own reproductive system.
- Even less separation of church-and-state than there is now.
- Further disappearance of our country's middle-class (the ones they expect to carry our economy on its shoulders). There will be the rich, and there will be the working poor, and with the current state of housing and rental rates, more of them will probably graduate to the status of 'car-dweller'.
Yeah, it all looks like a rosy future, alright.
Thou shall not kill
If we follow your logic, then we better not remove warts or cancer growths, either. They are both alive and growing.
methinks thou doest protest too much
holy moley
Thou shall not kill applies to unborn babies. sm
They are alive, no matter how many pretty pictures you try to paint about it. They are life, God's life.
thou shalt not suffer a witch to live
who or what is considered a witch?
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:vPGqU17zor4J:www.associatedcontent.com/article/1066050/thou_shalt_not_suffer_a_witch_to_live.html+shall+not+suffer+a+witch+to+live&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us
GET REAL if you make over 250 thou AFTER DEDUCTIONS you are RICH! NM
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You were the one who had the whatever attitude.sm
-It happens all the time...move on.-
I beg to differ.
What an attitude!
I can see by reading along that you are simply not able to have a logical conversation with ANYONE despite my being respectful. And for your information, the reason I made the statement that we cannot agree is that we are speaking from different basic ethical and moral stands and neither of us is willing to budge. I will choose life and you will choose to end life. You really should not fall back on your religious convictions to explain your belief system, though. I am sure there are pro-choice Christians and I am careful to separate my personal feelings from all of Christianity. This is something you seem unable or unwilling to do. I am not quite sure why anyone would attempt to debate someone such as yourself, but I am sure I will not make that mistake again. It seems you have effectively silenced anyone who does not agree with you often in your lifetime. How nice for you.
what an attitude....
That's your only criterium for voting for the President of the United States?
And you are rich.
This is pathetic.
It's not condescending attitude that
turns you away from Obama, it is your refusal to think for yourself and to vote for your own best interests.
No reason for that attitude.
She was just posting those as examples of things that have been said that are false and that what the OP posted about was yet another one of those rumors that just aren't true.
And this is exactly the kind of attitude
that I feel will ruin us if Obama is elected. Oh...if you don't want to pay your fair share.....just don't make as much. Why should people feel like they have to lower their income. It will make hard working people not want to work hard because the government just takes what they earn. Then you have the people who don't make anything and are living off of the government and that number will grow. The more government assistance given, the more they want and the more they will take. It will make spending for these programs outrageous. Why should we enable people to mooch off of the government?
I understand there are people who legitimately need help. People who are truly disabled and can't work. However, there are many others who are literally just mooching so they don't have to work.
I have to think of MY future. I have two kids who will go through college. One boy is a freshman now so college really isn't too fair away. I have a house I'm paying for. I have a special needs child that requires more of my money. I want to put my hard earned money back for my kids and myself for a rainy day. I don't want it taken from me and given to people who I don't know and who I don't know whether they truly need it or are just lying and mooching off of the government.
The bottom line is this, making more money is an incentive to work hard. You take their money away and give to people who don't work hard and what does that show.....it shows that you don't have to work hard because the government will pick of the tab and it shows the hard workers....why bother. I don't want that for my country. I don't want my kids raised in that kind of life thinking that hard work doesn't pay off.
what a sourpus attitude.
What a condescending attitude.
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You have the typical dem attitude of it's everyone
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Well, with an attitude like that, you're probably right.
Ever heard of innovation? Trying new things? Evolution? Going with the flow? Growth? Change? Hope? Faith?
Yes, YOUR attitude is one our forefathers envisioned, huh?! lol
geez.
It we adopt that attitude, we will be plunged into war
for the foreseeable future. I certainly do not want that, and I wouldn't think you would either. I have worked very closely with people from the middle east, mostly from Jordan and Pakistan, and I can most assuredly say that it is not US, the American people that they hate, it is our governmental policies that they hate. Those same policies of interference when it is not warranted that have created this chasm. It is not about cultural differences or about religion, the resistance is coming from that sector of radicalism. We have used and manipulated the peoples and governments of the middle east for our own ends for generations.
Your words are not acceptable to me because they tell me that there is no hope and to just give up and give in to the fact that we are going to be embroiled in war forever. I don't want that for my children or for my children's children.
Yes, i have plenty to keep me busy. Your attitude
just makes you seem somewhat sexist and I really was just curious? 
Why do you say Obama has a condescending attitude? I think he is ...sm
much more understanding of the problems of the average American than McCain is.
No, Francie has the attitude. SHE turns me away
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no, YOUR attitude is what scares sensible people.
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You have a really bad attitude and I will never answer any more of your posts because
You just don't get it at all. Go back to Fox News and rest assured, my time will not be wasted on your ignorance anymore.
Well please don't apply one person's attitude to everyone - sm
I for one am very sad that his Grandmother passed away, particularly at this time in his life.
See? It's just that kind of mean-spirited attitude
the republican party. Look at the difference in the crowds at the post-election speeches: One that was all-inclusive, and one that was obviously quite exclusive. One in which the candidate and the people who voted for him were willing to reach their hands out to the defeated party and say, "C'mon we're all in this thing together", and one in which the candidate's party booed the winner.
It's not 'just words', as you put it... it's the beginning of a dialogue, something that's been missing not only within the US, but also between the US and the rest of the world.
McCain is not mean-spirited. He was a good candidate, ran a good race, and would most likely have been a good president. But the party he represents has been consumed in recent years by greed and short-sightedness. And that seems to have gone a long way towards cultivating the mean-spiritedness that's been the hallmark of that party for the last couple of decades.
I think the best thing the Republican Party can do for itself and for future elections is to learn from the mistakes of the last 20 years, and start making changes, and conducting themselves like this is the 21st century, not the 16th century. This country was long overdue for a change for the better, and to embrace the 21st century, not fear it.
That attitude is why racism still exists.....
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You have a good attitude Penny sm
I'm glad you welcomed me back but I see an Obama supporter believe it or not has called me a moron. I wonder what's up with that?
It's glaringly obvious who has the attitude here...(sm)
Instead of actually contributing the conversation, you came along and just decided to pick out someone for a fight. I really am happy that you have such a wonderful life and that this crisis is seemingly not affecting you. However, I don't believe that gives you the right to criticize those who are being affected. But then again, I would assume that was your point -- to just stir up a fight. Maybe you should spend some of that $600 a month on a hobby.
BTW, if I were trying to be nasty, I would have actually told you that you are mindless wonder instead of just saying I would have called you something else. LOL.
Al Gore and his "green" attitude
is the biggest bunch of BS I've ever seen. That fat man preaches to everyone about global warming and then jumps on his private jets and flies off. The kicker is that he is getting rich off of this scam too.
I will remember that one...if you remember...thou shalt not kill. nm
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Nice attitude there, lifelong Democrat....
and I was not whining. There were a couple complaining that they did not want conservatives here. The board monitor has said many times cross posting was fine. The liberals on this board were the ones whining....and I was going to respect the whining...and I was trying to be nice about it. Unlike YOU I might add. THAT is the liberal attitude I am talking about. If someone disagrees with you, they are making trouble. You absolutely cannot handle someone not endorsing your every idea. You want to make me public enemy #1 and all I did was disagree with a point of view. Are you really that insecure? Obviously the answer to that is yes. I was trying to extend an olive branch and you say I'm whining. What a condescending, elitist attitude....but then, why should that surprise me, lifelong Democrat??
This kind of attitude will ensure another GOP defeat
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I hope he appreciates your servile attitude
Enough already.
Oh, yeah. I see now why you've got such a *feel good* attitude.
Lurker had the courage to try to debate you, tried to ignore your rude comments and personal attacks. Yes, your intelligent debate triggered responses by Lurker, as follow:
Please do not preach at me and tell me I don't understand the concept of working for a living. I try my best not to berate or belittle anyone on this board and I would appreciate the same consideration.
Please don’t lump me in your hate and rhetoric category. I don't belong there.
I am very disheartened at this time and altho I have taken a couple of weeks off these boards, evidently it is not enough time, my emotions are still too raw to be on a politics board, either one of them. So, again, I will remove myself from this setting for awhile. Aho.
I can see from her above post why you're so happy. Looks like you succeeded in chasing her away for a while, too. 
You have such a better-than-you attitude, I can't stand to read your posts anymore.
And you call yoruself a Christian, PREACHING to the rest of us how we should live our lives! You are the worst kind of Christian, SO judgmental.
This attitude is exactly why we are in such a mess and the country was brought down in the past 8 y
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The juvenile attitude of spending money we dont
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That kind of attitude makes you sound jealous and petty..
I'm sorry if you are offended by my opinion that I don't want to pay more in taxes. You wouldn't either if the tables were turned.
I like Stephen Colbert's attitude. He said concerning the remarks about colors: "That was th
Dr. Seuss book ever!" We take ourselves so seriously. Someone is always going to be offended.
That is pitiful. Just pitiful. But that is the attitude they have....
sad.
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