what does black and white have to do with it?
Posted By: me on 2008-10-13
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LOL! Yes, black and white =
only. Too bad it's not a black and white, good or bad world. The you're either with us or against us philosophy has not served us well in the world community and here at home your patriotism is questioned simply because you ask questions. But it's our mission to spread democracy. God help us.
He is both black AND white.
Not that it matters and your not the only one but people keep referring to Barack as a "black" man without acklowdeging that he is also half white (50/50). His mother was as white as they come. I don't feel we are electing a black man (or a white man). I feel we are electing a capable man.
Nothing to do with black or white there....has to do
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Black and White
People and organizations often try to condense life into a black and white little box. It's way too gray for that.
One thing I discovered as I got older ... just because people or organizations come on strong doesn't mean they know what they are talking about or have good ideas.
I was always shy and figured the people who were forceful were such because the knew their $#it. Sooo not true. :)
black and white thinking
in other words seeing someone as all bad or all good is not an indicator of high intelligence. Beware.
Don't know how you can accuse me of only seeing black and white...
in view of all these posts. You really think calling someone a redneck and Nascar and a religious wacko is appropriate way to talk about issues?
They quote the bill of rights but ignore the one about freedom of religion...they hawk choice but you mention choice of the child and they tear the hide off you in strips...usually telling you to go back to your church, bible-thumper, etc., as if all pro-life people are grounded in religion. THat is simply NOT the truth...there are liberal pro-lifers who believe ALL life is sacred...and not from a liberal point of view, but a moral one.
And you can still post to me that to ME everything is black and white. I am perfectly willing and have been perfectly willing to debate issues. THey just do not tolerate a dissenting opinion, if you debate policies they take it as a personal affront to Obama...what was that you said about total agreement with a platform...?
No, frankly, I don't see it. But there will probably be more posts after yours high-fiving you for lecturing me.
Have a good evening.
There are always those people out there, black and white
who just do not understand anything and never will.
This is an ignorant statement. Black or white,
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For those who wish to read his speech in black and white
The paragraph I don't like is the following:
"We are the keepers of this legacy. Guided by these principles once more, we can meet those new threats that demand even greater effort - even greater cooperation and understanding between nations. We will begin to responsibly leave Iraq to its people, and forge a hard-earned peace in Afghanistan. With old friends and former foes, we will work tirelessly to lessen the nuclear threat, and roll back the specter of a warming planet. We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you.
It clearly gives an open door for the terrorists to test him.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/01/20/president-obamas-inaugural-address/
Some things just simply are right/wrong, black/white, yes/no.
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People aren't generally black and white.
Only in some Hollywood movies are people all good or all bad. I'm sure Chavez is capable some good or at least middle-of-the-road words/deeds. And I have to say that some stuff Chomsky has written pre-Iraq war was actually pretty good (now I said SOME stuff here, not ALL). It's very hard for me to give blanket condemnation of just about anyone (with the exception of serial killers, etc.).
It also occurs to me that you may possibly consistently hold up Chomsky, Churchill and now Chavez (the three C's) as examples of how the left is crazy. Well, I think most sane people know that they don't represent the vast majority of liberals. I think deep down you know that, too.
that doesn't make him white...my son is half black
He's not a white man, I don't know why you would even bring that into the conversation.
You just don't get it. There are black, white, brown and purple Christians...sm
Muslims, Jews, etc. Some want McCain to win and some want Obama to win, hopefully not based on color, ethnicity or religion but on what they envision is best for our country.
The case of identifying oneself white or black ---
You know, I know that most people do not understand the situation. I know you may have "black friends", "mixed friends", "white friends", and therefore you think you know how they feel about their color, but you just don't.
First let me say, I am white - BUT I am married to a black man, I have 2 mixed grandchildren, 4 mixed stepchildren, both my sisters are married to black men, and I have 4 mixed nieces and nephews, and I have countless friends with black children, white children, and mixed children.
Now, each one of those children identify with one race or another - they see themselves as just people when they are younger, but as they age they "pick" a side... and I see it in every one of them.
My 4 year old grandson (who looks like a black child) has just this week asked why we have to hang out with black people all the time, that they are mean (he does not realize yet that he is also black)... my 13 year old nephew (who looks like a black child) had a girlfriend whose parents would not let them talk to each other because he is black; my 14 year old nephew (who looks white) has no problems talking to the white girls if he wants to because their families all think he is white (have actually heard people say, "boy that white boy plays ball like he's black).
My point is that most of the time, a mixed child always identifies more with one race or another and that it is predominantly the race that they look like. I don't think that it is wrong for Obama to feel like he was ingratiating himself to the white people because I see it happening in mixed kids all the time. They have to act "white" to be accepted by white people - it's just a fact.
Obama's mother is white, his father was black, making him an oreo.
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good-evil, white cowboy hat black cowboy hat
Wouldnt it be great if the world was black-white, good-evil..Gee, life would be so simple. The good guys could wear the white cowboy hat, the bad guys the black one. I ache for simpler times, like...maybe the 1990s, when we werent the biggest terrorist country on the earth with the number one terrorist sitting in the White House and the world still respected America.
I guess you want the old white, wrinkly white guy?
Right wing horsesh*t being shoved out as "truth." Sad.
Even a black man..(sm)
*there is a great many people ready to believe in anything, even a black man from a corrupt Chicago political machine with a nice smile and pretty words. *
Yes, it is a historic event for a black man to become president, as is readily recognized and rightfully so. However, the OP used *even a black man* in what can only be described as a derogatory manner. -- ready to believe in anything -- even a black man -- followed by more derogatory comments. To read a statement like this that was obviously meant to be demeaning and pick out one aspect and try to paint that as an innocent description is ridiculous. Do you really think she meant to add a compliment in the midst of that statement? I think not. In fact, even the phrase *with a nice smile and pretty words* was meant as a sarcastic representation. I'm not making a mountain out of a mole hill here. This was obviously a racist statement. If Obama were white do you think the post would have included the statement *even a white man?* Of course it wouldn't. Why do you think that is? I think the OP managed to show her true colors on this one, whether or not she even realized it.
this looks like you are comparing a black
person to a "retarded" person, which makes YOU look bad. -and have some respect for the office, please. Talking like a 5-year-old does not help your own cause.
One black man jealous of another who
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yep - black humor
Actually, I thought it was hilarious when he said it.......but I'm a pretty easy going, laid back person. I saw the comedy in it.
Or as Louis Black would say...
"They deserve to be as miserable as the rest of us!"
Love Mr. Black!
No one is afraid of him because he is black....
it is a valid concern that he is a racist.
However, his far left socialism is more concerning to me than his racism.
Vote just because he/she is black - sm
Is just as wrong as not voting for because he/she is black
I am afraid that too many folks casting their votes will be doing it for these reasons, and that is scary
I wish McCain was a black man.
I personally feel the McCain hasn't been able to attack Obama like he should because they are too afraid of the race card being played.....and let's face it.....the race card is being played as it is.
He does not need to LOOK for black vote.
Already addressed this Selma junk yesterday. Know how many black feel patronized? Don't make me have to go dig up my post from yesterday that already put this garbage to rest. It will embarrass you.
do you think if she were black it would have matter?
So sad.
I admit that I am not black.
I guess you could say I have not walked in a black person's shoes. However, don't for one second think that I have never felt racism. I've seen the glares and dirty looks aimed in my direction by black people. I've given smiles to strangers who instead of smiling back would glare hatefully at me. I've said, "I have a nice day," to people who have either given me a dirty look or turned their back to me.
I was at a hospital visiting my dying father when I left with my son to get something to eat. My son is very young and has a developmental delay. A black mother and her daughter walked onto the elevator with us. My son, not knowing any better, looked at the little girl and commented that she was brown. Without even thinking I said, "Yes she is. Isn't she beautiful!" The mother gave me the dirtiest look.
Well, I hear that something like 95% of black
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He chose to be more black
He said so himself in his book.
Black? You mean muslim.
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Anybody see the Black Panther
arguing with the Fox reporter in Philadelphia. Yeah, I would feel comfortable going there to vote. What is wrong with these people. Why can't people just go vote honestly with none of the scams and crap going on, and see who the MAJORITY of citizens want for our next President? This whole thing is absurb! Glad I live in a small town, no lines, no bull*****
Those of us that aren't black could
never understand in a million years what this election to means to many black people. Just 40 years ago, they could not even vote. Obama never referred to himself as being akin to MLK -- that tag was put on him by others as a standard for the few black people in our society that have been held up as examples of what any human being can accomplish if given the opportunity. I ask you, if you or your ancestors (blacks, Jews, etc.) had been held in slavery for hundreds or thousand of years, being treated as non-humans, would you not consider it a victory to finally be recognized as an equal? Get over your self-righteous indignation and accept it for what it is -- a progressive step forward long overdue.
I think it's official.....gay is the new black (sm)
It amazes me that we can take such a huge step as we did in the general election and yet at the same time take away someone else's rights. I hope this goes to the supreme court.
Oh boy, now that we have a black president
Now, if say, Chris Rock had made that comment, you're going to tell me you would still find that bad? That guys says plenty of racist things and I can guarantee you many on this board would be laughing at any racist comment he makes. They just won't admit it.
Black Friday
 That was so terrible!! I cannot believe that people are so greedy and thoughtless as to create such bedlam...there was no need for something like this to happen. I hope they find the person responsible and throw them under the jail. I think BF should be outlawed. I once went shopping a day after Thanksgiving many years ago and have not since - people pulling items out of others' hands, people cursing at one another...I felt so bad for the people running out the checkout counter. One checkout girl was so frazzled she began to cry because one of the people in line told her she was 'too slow', and went on to threaten this poor lady..it's a sad commentary on our society, and even sadder that there is a family in mourning because people don't know how to behave in public
Even Black Friday..........sm
wasn't the success the retailers had hoped for. There were several articles over the weekend sayin that, while there fairly good turnouts, it wasn't the big kick-off they expected.
To Ashamed Black MT:
I wholeheartedly agree with JTBB. I think people see different things when they see Obama.
What I see is someone who is also half WHITE. I see someone who wouldn't even have been allowed to EXIST in this country not very long before he was born because interracial marriage was against the law. I see how far our country has come, despite all the bigots and racists, some of which obviously linger (but hopefully will go by the way of the dinosaur).
Most of all, I see someone who represents the BEST in most of us, instead of the LEAST in the few of us. By acknowledging my EXISTENCE (and I'm white) as someone in America who isn't a millionaire, by acknowledging the EXISTENCE of a healthcare problem and by acknowleding the EXISTENCE of all the other problems that plague people who were once part of the almost extinct middle class, he is acknowledging the existence of most of us, which is much more than has been done by the Republicans during either the last eight years or even during the 2008 Presidential campaign.
I have great faith in him, especially when I see him with his children, that he truly wants what is best for everyone in this country. I have no idea why so many people are so threatened by him. I truly see hope for a better future, even though I've been "programmed" to live on edge and wonder what the "President" is doing next to stick it to the little guy. Hopefully, I'll get over that "reflex," and hopefully he won't give me a reason to question or criticize him.
sorry if I offended, but I'm white....
I'm a white person saying this.....but worked in ERs for years.....her Shaniqua statement made me say there's plenty of white trash going to ERs too....is all I meant - sorry if I offended you.
duh yourself - Barack IS 50% white... LOL
and some of us love people of color but not voting for him for other reasons,
There are people voting for him strictly because he's part black, and some people voting for hillary because she is female -
these are BAD reasons.........to vote for anybody........
what? said about biden by a white.
where do you get racism out of that?
Is this what the US needs in the White House?
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I think NOT.
What about the white people who went to war to...
abolish slavery? And many thousands died in the effort. That just get erased? Like it never happened?
In the White House, someone who has kept the
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Considering what we got in the white house, that's all
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I'd say that's the pot calling the kettle black, gt. sm
It's not up to you to judge who is Christian and who is not. Anyone who wishes for someone to burn in hell along with his family has no business especially judging anyone's Christianity. Good Lord.
Pot..kettle..black, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Please post where I have made a *generalization about everything*? LOL, that in itself is a wild broad generalization by you..er..which one are you today?? Cant keep track, changing your handle every few posts..Continue on with your lies, misrepresentations and extremely board generalizations..I need a good laugh this afternoon.
are we ready for a black president?
-Chris Rock
black prez remark
My, how classy. That so-called retardate graduated Yale & Harvard. Now who's retarded? Bill Clinton is plenty of things, too, but stupid, retarded, etc. are things that I've never heard a conservative say...ever.
I'll let Chris Rock lie in the gutter with his money and his filthy mouth.
Class always speaks for itself.
Go on line and read up on the black...
liberation theology, which is central to the teaching of his Trinity church, of which he has been a member for 20 years. Look at the "economic parity" part of it. If you think Hilary has socialist leanings...Barack is way to the left of her on that score. His little lets do a windfall profits tax on oil and take that money and redistribute it in $1000 energy rebates. That, my friend, is socialist to the hilt, redistribution of wealth, taking from those who legally made the money and giving it to those who did nothing to earn it. Extreme socialism. He is already calling for it and doesn't have the job yet.
And yes, I think that kind of thinking and action could destroy America as we know it. America is built on free enterprise, the freedom to be and do what you want to be, through hard work and dedication move up in the world and if you become rich, more power to you! We can't all become rich, but let me tell you, I don't blame the rich for being rich. I am responsible for my own destiny and I do not expect an oil company or Bill Gates or anyone else to share their wealth with me and I sure don't think the government should be taking from them and giving to me. That is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Also...look into what happened to the US economy when Carter issued a windfall profit tax on oil companies during his administration....BIG mistake. All that will do is discourage domestic production and drilling, and what happens then? INCREASED dependence on foreign oil and prices through the roof.
All Obama is doing is playing that old socialist trick of pandering to the have nots in the world who want to blame the "rich" for everything. By the way, Obama is by no means poor...why doesn't he divy out some of his bucks to the have nots? Put his money where his mouth is so to speak. You know why? Because it is a lot easier to give someone else's money away and keep yours...another typically elitist socialist ideal. We will keep all OUR money, we will just take some of THEIR money and dole it out to the have nots to keep the have nots beholden to us, thus insuring our control over them for the future.
No thanks.
Here is a poignant remark by a black man...
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