well put. Marijuana is passive, helps pain. Alcohol kills.
Posted By: NM on 2008-09-17
In Reply to: Do you have a problem with - curious
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If alcohol is legal, then marijuana isn't any worse
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You know what just kills me.....
Obama makes comments about the wicked CEOs making big bucks and having private jets, spending money, etc. What does our government do? They use private jets and/or helicopters. The spend money like it is going out of style. I don't see where our government has cut back at all. It would be nice to not only hear our government talk about CEOs cutting back, but it would be nice if our government did the same. Lead by example. Show the American people that you do care about us and are willing to sacrifice something in order to make it better for the people who voted you in instead of flying all over the country and getting serenaded by Stevie Wonder and using tax payers money for Pelosi to go to Italy, etc. Practice what you preach President Obama. Say what you mean and mean what you say. I'm tired of the double standards. I'm tired of the lies and BS.
I truly hope that as Americans we take a look at what is going on. The deficit that Bush created and the trillion that Obama is adding to it. Spend, spend, spend. When does it stop?
Passive-aggressive much?
Yikes.
And I'm not even pro-Obama.
GOP-Run Senate Kills Minimum Wage Increase...sm
GOP-Run Senate Kills Minimum Wage Increase
Republican-controlled Senate derails proposed election-year increase in minimum wage
WASHINGTON, Jun. 22, 2006
By DAVID ESPO AP Special Correspondent
(AP)
(AP) The Republican-controlled Senate smothered a proposed election-year increase in the minimum wage Wednesday, rejecting Democratic claims that it was past time to boost the $5.15 hourly pay floor that has been in effect for nearly a decade.
The 52-46 vote was eight short of the 60 needed for approval under budget rules and came one day after House Republican leaders made clear they do not intend to allow a vote on the issue, fearing it might pass.
The Senate vote marked the ninth time since 1997 that Democrats there have proposed _ and Republicans have blocked _ a stand-alone increase in the minimum wage. The debate fell along predictable lines.
Americans believe that no one who works hard for a living should have to live in poverty. A job should lift you out of poverty, not keep you in it, said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass. He said a worker paid $5.15 an hour would earn $10,700 a year, almost $6,000 below the poverty line for a family of three.
Kennedy also said lawmakers' annual pay has risen by roughly $30,000 since the last increase in the minimum wage.
Republicans said a minimum wage increase would wind up hurting the low-wage workers that Democrats said they want to help.
For every increase you make in the minimum wage, you will cost some of them their jobs, said Sen. Johnny Isakson, R-Ga.
He described the clash as a classic debate between two very different philosophies. One philosophy that believes in the marketplace, the competitive system ... and entrepreneurship. And secondly is the argument that says the government knows better and that topdown mandates work.
The measure drew the support of 43 Democrats, eight Republicans and one independent. Four of those eight Republicans are seeking re-election in the fall.
Democrats had conceded in advance that this attempt to raise the minimum wage would fare no better than their previous attempts. At the same time, they have made clear in recent days they hope to gain support in the coming midterm elections by stressing the issue. Organized labor supports the legislation, and Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., said that contrary to some impressions, most minimum wage workers are adults, not teenagers, and many of them are women.
When the Democrats control the Senate, one of the first pieces of legislation we'll see is an increase in the minimum wage, said Kennedy.
His proposal would have increased the minimum wage to $5.85 beginning 60 days after the legislation was enacted; to $6.55 one year later; and to $7.25 a year after that. He said inflation has eroded the value of the current $5.15 minimum wage by 20 percent.
With the help of a few rebellious Republicans, House Democrats on the House Appropriations Committee succeeded in attaching a minimum wage increase last week to legislation providing funding for federal social programs. Fearing that the House would pass the measure with the increase intact, the GOP leadership swiftly decided to sidetrack the entire bill.
I am opposed to it, and I think a vast majority of our (rank and file) is opposed to it, House Majority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, said Tuesday.
Pressed by reporters, he said, There are limits to my willingness to just throw anything out on the floor.
On Wednesday, his spokesman, Kevin Madden, said Boehner has told fellow Republicans the House will have to deal with this some way. He said no decisions had been made.
While Democrats depend on organized labor to win elections, Republicans are closely aligned with business interests that oppose any increase in the federal wage floor or would like changes in the current system.
Sen. Mike Enzi, R-Wyo., chairman of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, offered an alternative that proposed a minimum wage increase of $1.10 over 18 months, in two steps.
The increase was coupled with a variety of provisions offering regulatory or tax relief to small businesses, including one to exempt enterprises with less than $1 million in annual receipts from the federal wage and hour law entirely. The current exemption level is $500,000, and a Republican document noted the amount had lagged behind inflation.
Additionally, Republicans proposed a system of optional flextime for workers, a step that Enzi said would allow employees, at their discretion, to work more than 40 hours one week in exchange for more time off the next. Unions generally oppose such initiatives, and the Republican plan drew 45 votes, with 53 in opposition.
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That's not passive aggression. no message
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I don't think that alcohol and cigarettes alone
cause cirrhosis or lung cancer. My DH's aunt died of both those diseases and never smoked or drank during her life. So, how did she wind up with those diseases?
I do believe that your everyday cleaning products have too many chemicals in them and they could cause lung diseases, but no one ever did a study on those, did they? Nope, the culprits are always cigarettes and alcohol.
Don't get me wrong...the studies don't lie, but I would love to see a study on some of the chemicals in cleaning products, air fresheners, etc. Bet you'd be surprised.
I agree about the alcohol.
The only reason I can think that these people don't have harsher punishments for drunk driving is because our prisons are full and they just really can't house them for long periods of time. It too irritates me when people with multiple offenses kill someone and hardly anything is done.....it makes me sick. I've never personally lost anyone to alcohol but I just don't understand why punishments and enforcement isn't a lot more strict than they are.
Never. There is more alcohol consumed per capita
Those cockatiels and martoonis make the political world go around, doncha know?
God helps those who help themselves...
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The pain, and can it be done......(nm)
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Yep, it helps...off to Google...
however, I know I can find as many or more for the other side. Have you read them as well? I will if you will....
sally, not to be a pain in the
tuckus, but can you bring up the post regarding mcCain's votes regarding vet's issues? I tried to find it - really - but I can't.
I felt his pain.
I really expected him to endorse McCain. My respect for him just grew because he had the guts to stand up against his own party for what he considers the good of the country. I really feel there was more to his resignation from the Bush cabinet than meets the eye AND I cannot abide Condalesa (sp?) Rice!!!!!
I hope this helps
Each election seems to get worse and worse. This is by far the worst election I've seen in my life. I think in the era of computers people are more quick to say hateful and hurtful things because you can't see who you are saying it to. Stuff you would never ever say to someone's face.
I served my country in the US Army under Ronald Reagan and was proud of my country. I learned that there are many people of different nationalities/ backgrounds and that everyone should be respected. I was proud of my country back then but like you I am ashamed of the way people act today.
I feel that in today's world people have just gotten worse and worse. I think a lot of frustrations arise from what is happening in the country right now (a lot of uncertainty). Even though there are people who will only blame one side or the other and never take responsibility, if you read history you will see both sides are at fault. But more people are angrier and have no fear of standing up and saying whatever they want to without doing research. It's seems a lot easier to blame the other side than try to find a solution.
My g-pappy told me two things you never talk about with people. Politics and religion. He said those two are the hottest of subjects, not everyone is going to agree with you, and you will most likely either hurt someone's feelings or have yours hurt. And as my mama said to me.... "if I ever hear you talking like that to someone I'll slap the snot out of you" HA HA
For me....I just want a qualified President and I'll leave it at that.
Should Marijuana be Legalized?
Would you support legalization of marijuana if the tax revenues could be up to 14 Billion Annually? Add to that Jobs, freeing up of police/DHS for border drug war interdiction and on and on. Legalized and sold with restrictions like alcohol?
An alternative protest along with the Tea Party protest today.
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NORML Executive Director Allen St. Pierre presented a mock check to the U.S. Treasury Department in the sum of $14 billion this morning at a press conference on the steps of the General Post Office in New York City.
The $14 billion check total represents the combined savings and tax revenues that would be generated by regulating the sale and production of cannabis like alcohol, according to a 2005 analysis by Harvard University senior lecturer Jeffrey Miron and endorsed by over 500 distinguished economists.
Media representatives from CNN, Fox News, Sirius Satellite Radio, and other news outlets were on hand to cover the event.
“On a day when so many Americans lament having to pay state and federal income taxes, we’re representing America’s millions of otherwise law-abiding cannabis consumers, who are ready, willing, and able to contribute to our struggling economy — while providing truly ‘green’ jobs and allowing police to focus on more important priorities,” NORML told reporters. “All we ask in exchange for our $14 billion is the right to enjoy pot responsibly and in peace.”
should marijuana be legalized
I agree, it should be legalized. Alcohol kills people every day. I'm an old hippie and have never known of anyone on pot either harming or killing another person. It's almost impossible. The country is definitely losing alot of money by not legalizing.
I personally think it helps to an extent...
I listened to Michelle Obama's speech and I thought she was very articulate...and they are a beautiful family. I did listen to Hillary, and in my opinion, she made it all about her. She said the right things, but I don't think her heart was in it. I think there is a LOT of bitterness there still. Bill already put his foot in his mouth, no telling what he will say during his speech. What I found very strange was the camera focused on him while Hillary was speaking, and he had tears in his eyes, and he mouthed "I love you I love you I love you." It was easy to see what he was saying. Have no idea if that was for the cameras or was a really unguarded moment. Who knows? It just seemed really out of character for him. I did notice that she said she came before the crowd a proud mother, a proud Democrat and a proud United States Senator from New York...but nuttin' about being a proud wife...lol. Who can blame her??
As to Barack and Michelle being down to earth, I know that is the message she wanted to send. But when speaking to a group of middle class-type women, she kinda messed up when she told a story about Barack getting on to her for a $10,000 bill for the kids(yes, ten thousand) and she said to him, "Do you know how much camp costs?" That demonstrates that she was out of touch with the people she was talking to. $10,000 is probably a third of what they make a YEAR if they were lucky. She lives a very different life than the middle class. She may remember it from childhood, but she has left that behind her. Not that that is a bad thing...it just demonstrates that they are rich folks just like McCain. Most politicians are. It goes with the territory. All that being said, having money does not make any of them bad people.
I missed the speech of the man from Virginia, so can't comment on that one. Bill's will be interesting. You never know what is going to come out of his mouth.
I think we will find out more about the candidates after the convention, when we have official nominees, get to the debates, and if we can sort through the mud being slung from both sides, that is where most of our information will come from.
What is your opinion regarding medical marijuana?
Although the residents of California voted overwhelmingly to make medical marijuana legal in our state with written recommendation from a doctor, the federal government still considers it a crime.
Should the federal government laws supersede the laws of the State of California against the will of the voters?
This quiz was fun. Helps to lighten up a bit.
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Having a goal helps! My neighbor used to
he got the idea that he wanted to run in a marathon someday, and I don't know how he's managed to stick with it for so long but in just a year, but he's gone from a slug, to a fit, good-looking athlete! Every day after work, he runs the hills around our town. Then, when he's done with that, he gets on his bike and rides about 20-30 miles. He also cut out the junk food. He's gone from about 300 pounds to a lean 150 or so. Truly amazing!
The question was specific to marijuana
but frankly, I do not care what anybody else consumes. That includes maryjane, and so my vote is yes.
DEA to halt medical marijuana raids.
Supporters of programs to provide legal marijuana to patients with painful medical conditions are celebrating Supporters of programs to provide legal marijuana to patients with painful medical conditions are celebrating Attorney General Eric Holder’s statement this week that the Drug Enforcement Administration would end its raids on state-approved marijuana dispensaries.
Holder confirmed that states will have the final say on use of the drug for pain control.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29433708/
Another great decision by the Obama administration!
As someone who watched my brother die in great pain......
and nausea, morphine not helping, dying of cancer, I would have given anything to give him relief. And now that I have systemic lupus, RA, Sjogren's and sarcoid, I at times wonder if pot would help (although I HATE smoking and never liked any drugs), but sometimes you just want so much to function.
I agree. We all know the ravages of cirrhosis and other alcohol-related diseases, I have had loved ones killed in car crashes involving alcohol, I see my kids losing friends to it, and I know of many "responsible adults" who still think nothing of driving after "only having a couple." If it were medically managed by a physician for documented conditions, if it helps in pain (I mean, like OxyContin, Percocet, and morphine are NOT being abused, sold on the street, etc?), I think it would be worth a shot with strict regulations, could be a HUGE cash crop for California as well as other states. And I am sick of the argument that it encourages people to be drug addicts. Come on, how many people become alcoholics because it is legal, and solely for that purpose? If someone has addictive behavior disorders and genetic predisposition, they are going to abuse Robitussin, alcohol, sex, ANYTHING. And how about how cigarette smoking affects the economy. There are millions of people on Medicaide and disability with emphysema, lung CA, and heart disease that can be attributed to tobacco, but because of tobacco lobbyists for decades and decades, we will never outlaw cigarettes. JMHO
we feel your pain; now time for you to have an inept leader...
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Watch the video. Winged, bleeding, writhing in pain.
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It's called passive-aggression and it's still aggression.
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