very lame logic; and she never said only.
Posted By: nm on 2008-09-18
In Reply to: I've decided too - gourdpainter
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Lame logic??????
If it's lame logic that I have listened to ALL candidates and decided for myself based on what they have said without regard for the media take, the political party affiliation, gender or color, then so be it. By whatever means you have made YOUR decision, I assume you don't consider your logic lame and I certainly will not put you down for coming to a conclusion that differs from mine.
With this logic....
...am I to assume that if you personally were imprisoned on faulty and/or trumped up charges that later proved false that you should therefore remain in prison?....simply because at one point the charges against you were believed to be true by the court?
You are saying that our government can never admit to a mistake or to being misled and then CHANGE the course of action?
As Ted Koppel said, our reason for Iraq went from being for our own national security and then as the facts were revealed about the reasoning for this, it changed to being for the good of the Iraqi people. It has now proven to be neither for the good of the Iraqi people or for the lives of the Americans.
Logic
only a look (sans rose colored glasses) at the current state of affair and perfectly logical question of where the same trajectory might lead 4 years from now.
Ah, what logic
Just shows the overall mentality of the "pro-life" side. People like you and this murderer do great things for your cause everyday. Makes us all want to switch over to your side....
Scary logic
So you would base qualification solely on his horrific experience in the POW camp? Seriously?
McCain is truly to be admired - no doubt - and ANYone who actually said "lying in a POW camp for 5 years does not make you qualified to run a counry" is despicable.
But enduring torture (at the hands of people whose country we invaded by the way, sound familiar?)
does not and SHOULD NOT automatically grant *any*one a pass to the most powerful position on the planet. If that's as far as your thinking goes, it's just scary...
PATRIOTISM, my friend, means standing up against your government on behalf of your COUNTRY! not JUST being willing to participate in any war, any where.
And being commander in chief means to ME that the person in that position would NEVER send men/women into another Vietnam OR IRAQ - and John McCain CLEARLY would like to continue the battle in many more places - but NOT in the one place where the attackers from 9/11 originated: Saudi Arabia. THAT my friend is shameful.
...of twisted logic.
Strange logic!
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Where's the logic in this way of thinking?
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I could agree with your logic if
Obama would let it alone Unfortunately, he is not going to do that. He has already said that his first order of business will be to sign into law the FOCA. He will be allowing many ill-aborted babies to die without treatment after having been mutilated, burned, etc. This isn't an issue of whether or not you are pro-life or pro-choice. This is about whether or not a born child should be left to suffer and die. The key word here is born. That child was born.
I work on a peds hospital account. I type reports everyday about babies born at 25 weeks and everything being done to save them. I don't see how someone can say "that baby gets to live today and I'm going to help it because the mother wants it to live, and that baby will die today because the mother does not want it."
This FOCA directly undoes the Safe Haven act. It makes no sense. How is the FOCA any different than a mother leaving their unwanted infant to die in a trash can?
Be careful where you go with that logic
Does that mean that we can safely assume that anyone who believed in Swaggart, Baker, Haggart, or any one of the legion of other evangelical ministers are guilty of not having a true Christian belief or guilty of the same 'crimes' that their ministry leaders were? Guilt by association, while easy, doesn't seem like a very Christian assumption.
the logic is in the legality, though
Killing the adult with cancer would be illegal. Abortion is legal. Does that spell it out for you?
Let's use logic for a change....(sm)
I would assume the only thing Obama might not have paid for would have been travel to NY. So, you tell me, exactly how else was he supposed to get there when the Secret Service is in charge of how he gets from point A to point B.
You need to pay attention to what has actually been going on in this country instead of getting wrapped up in the pettiness that is now the republican party. Where was your outrage when Bush spent billions on a war over BS? Amazingly, you guys have been on a spending spree for the last 8 years (most of which wasn't even on the books, BTW), and now all the sudden you want to worry about the cost of a date.
Poor little you, you can't afford a date. Well, next time think ahead and try not to vote in a president like Bush, and maybe, just maybe, the whole economy won't be in the shi++er and you can have your date, along with a job!
by your logic you think we can spend sm
our way out of debt???????
There is no logic at all to that line of thinking.
you are the lame one
No, my dear, you and all of your pro-war, pro-Bush cohorts are lame and have no conscience. If you did, you would be wanting to get our brave military out of harms way and out of the hell hole Bush created call Iraq. You and your neocon buddies are the lame ones and history will show you were wrong so deadly wrong..Go ahead, keep defending and backing up that jerk in the WH..You are becoming a sad laughing stock of this country and the world. Remember only approximately 38% back his so wrong, immoral, uncivilized, illegal, hateful war..For pete sake, his approval rating is lower than Nixon's was when he was dealing with Watergate..Havent your neocons gotten the picture yet? Your boy is hated around the world and more and more Americans are seeing him for what he is..a hateful, spiteful, vindictive, grudge holding, never admitting he was wrong, never saying he is sorry, low IQ warmonger chickenhawk.
That was lame. No, seriously, it was lame. SM
LAME-O
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so lame
Lame. nm
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How lame you are
If you would spend half as much time educating yourself as you did quoting definitions you might actually learn something. Talking about devoted to opinions, I believe you would be speaking about yourself. All the O supporters on him think ONLY their opinions and conclusions matter. They have NO facts to back up anything they say, only listening to their little TV set and repeating what they hear.
Why do you confuse prejudice with facts? If this were a white man running, you couldn't care less. But believe it or not, I don't really care. This man has spent so much time with terorrists in this country, continued his relationship with them AFTER and BEFORE he knew of their associations, and still tries to defend them.
He began racial baiting from the onset of his campaign, going down to Selma and running his mouth and making a fool out of himself. Blabby on and on about the march is the reason his mom and dad got togeher and had little Obama, Jr. I guess he thought everyone in Selma are dumb folks that don't now his age or when the march actually took place!!
He wasn't even born when the march took place. He was born 4 years later. He is a race baiter and has been from the get go. He has made sure he hits little towns like Selma, thinking all blacks will love him. I got news for you. Many blacks laughed at him when he said that and were not happy that he was using that trying to play into their good graces. They were offended that he thought they were so ignorant they would fall for that one.
Maybe you have insufficient knowledge, which is obvious and why you seem to feel you need to bring definitions into this, but friends in my neighborhood, who are black, were there and said they felt he was pandering to them as if they had no sense at all, as if he needed to tell them who to vote for 'cause they might make the wrong decision if left on their own.
Maybe you don't care the people he associated with are terrorists with no remorse and preachers who spew hatred, bigotry, racism, but I do. Maybe you should be more concerned with his bigotry and racism, if you dare!
Just because I have facts to back up this and you can't refute it, don't call me all the little names you sit and think up.
Anyone with half a brain knows ACORN is racist. Why do you think they encourage the people they sign up to vote for Obama and not to mention all the corruption they have already been in trouble for and indicated to boot.
Believe what you want and maybe he'll lead you to the promised land. I care more about this country than what you think with all you yammering.
Oh please - this is so lame
Bush is not the decider. Bush is an id!ot. I wasn't saying in my previous post that he isn't. Bush is bought and paid for by the people above him (the same ones that bought and paid for Clinton and the same ones who have bought and paid for Obama). All that the President does is get out and give speeches (the ones he is told to). He does not write his own speaches and he does not make any decisions (which is good because he's a complete whacko). But the hatred towards him is so evident.
Why do you keep saying the buck stops at Bush's desk, it does not. He does not supply our troops with clean/dirty water. He doesn't even know where they get it from and he doesn't care.
The commander in chief is only a talking head. They make no real decisions (except those they are told to).
Once again, it would serve those well to stop bashing Bush for every single problems going on on this planet and go to where the true source is. Bush/Cheney have no input.
The hatred has gotten way out of hand and you remind me of the guy in the movie the Matrix that says "ignorance is bliss".
Lame
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There is no arguing with that kind of logic.
Alex Jones is not a physicist or a structuralist, I presume. The people who built the WTC explained how the extreme heat from the jet fuel caused the buildings to topple. There is no use arguing this with you. You have chosen to believe it and there you have it.
"Twisted logic" is just another way of describing
Doesn't fool everybody, just the naiive, the narrow-minded, the SHEEP.
Baaaaa.
Your logic makes no sense at all
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By that same logic, Obama is also a puppet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There seems to be a piece of logic that has escaped you.
Hawaii DOES hold the authentic after all? Wouldn't that simply confirm that he was born in Hawaii?
After reading the piece of trash lurking behind your link, my head was spinning as I attempted to count how many times Andy the anti-Obama lunatic Martin referred to "I", "mine", and "my" in his statement. Do you not recognize a megalomaniac in the midst of trying to justify his frivolous lawsuit and vindicate his own delusions of grandeur in his claims being the smartest attorney on the face of the earth?
This is the same guy who is trying to assert that Frank Marshall Davis is the REAL biological father of Obama. You expecting to see that on on the "real, typewritten, long version" of the secret Hawaiian BC? If that were the case, then what was Obama Sr's visit with Obama all about? How about the Kenyan grandmother and brother who fringe pubs falsely claim witnessed his birth in Kenya? So Aunti Zeituni isn't REALLY his Aunti Zeituni after all? She's yesterday's news, now that you have conjured up another, more desperate smear?
Your hate machine is imploding all over itself under the weight of its own lies. If you don't get a grip on yourself, the next legal action down the pipe just may be your own state commitment papers.
Looks like that logic thingy is way above your head.
That's a pretty hard thing for O to accomplish BEFORE he takes the oath, and his senatorial offices did not afford him to accomplish such feats single-handedly, so maybe you could try clarifying what you are babbling about now.
Logic + Big Bad - Never the twain shall meet.
There you go trying to be all logical and realistic and everything.
Those who are in the 'ignorance is bliss' camp will never believe that radical Islam is anything to worry about. They will continue to blame 9/11 on America. They will continue to blame Bush for everything else. They will continue to praise their annoited one every time he jogs shirtless or plays with a puppy or eats a piece of pie.
They don't want to see his radical agenda, his blatant mistakes, or his real (and really dangerous) lack of leadership skills.
My folks used to raise hunting dogs. Once in awhile, you'd come up with a dog that simply couldn't learn. No matter how much time you put into training and coaching the poor little thing, its head could never seem to get in the game. They were lovable, attractive, but totally useless for the job they were meant to do.
I can't wait until we get another chance to find the pick of the litter, because when it comes to Obama, as my dad might say, "That dog can't hunt."
That is like, so totally lame. nm
What a lame excuse
To bash someone. She lost, get over it. She didn't use her kids as props. If so then so did obama and Biden (his grandkid that he clung to his chest every time the camera was on him). Now that's what I call a prop if I ever saw one. Sheesh!!!!
Her daughter is not in politics. Leave her alone. And you should be ashamed as even Obama himself during the campaign said if you want to discuss him or Biden, Sarah or John that's one thing, but leave the family's alone.
You really can't get over her can you? News flash - She lost, she's gone. Time to move on with your life and live in the present day and looking forward to what tomorrow (and 2012) brings. Isn't it the Obama people that keep saying to look ahead and stop living in the past?
Here's another news flash. Bristol Palin and her boyfriend and their baby are not in politics. Take the idol gossip and gloating to the gab board.
You don't even know who organized what.....such lame
BTW an architect organized the NY tea party! Ya know, an educated hard-working man who made his own way..... are you aware of how that actually works?!
Try to follow this logic. I support Obama. Therefore,
his platform and every single speech he ever gave, was and never will be MY issue. It is yours. MY issue is with the hypocrisy of Joe the unlicensed, the way he misrepresented his intentions to buy the business (seems to have completely forgotten that by now), misrepresented his income, the income of the business in question and the innocent bystander routine that you so strongly defend. Contrary to popular belief, it seems, ignorance IS NOT BLISS here. His cover was blown and you can't stop crying foul because the underlying agenda is out in the open.
Beyond that, McCain has lifted up JTP and is using him to further misrepresent his alleged concern for the middle class (a phrase which he has yet to utter in any speech) which is clearly the case, given his 24-year record of voting and his 90% undying devotion to the "commonly shared philosophy" with the shrub.
gee -- that's the same kind of logic applied to pro-life
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That was a truly lame comeback to this thread.
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T How Lame Are You/What a Joke RE: Racism
Where to start? I simply presented a logical argument predicated on definitions the original poster was obviously unfamiliar with. So far, there is nothing in this current post that even begins to address the challenge to show what part of that "dense" post was not prejudiced, bigoted and racist, seeing as how there is no proof presented here to back up these tiresome wild-eyed accusations.
I was 15 years old when the March on Washington occurred. My mom was a political junkie, a trait that I began exhibiting at around age 12, since I admired her so much...the same way that Obama obvious admired his own mother. So I began paying attention to the civil rights movement when they desegregated my school when I was around 11. You see, down South, they were a bit slow to comply with Brown vs the Board of Educaton..and in my state, they fought tooth and nail all the way up into the early 70s before complying with the order.
I also paid attention to all things racial, because I came from what would be considered an elite, privileged background and was raised by 2 black women (maid and nanny) and a black man (gardener) who were employed in my Highland Park, Dallas Texas household (BUSH country). Back then, it was not considered "fashionable" for the wealthy to do "hands-on parenting." So, I know a thing or two about racism, bigotry and prejudice first hand. I never understood why those 3 kind, wise souls (who I loved more than anyone else in the world and every bit as I loved my own parents) were treated so horribly every time we were out in public. Consequently, I took an avid interest in the civil rights movement at the tender age of 12, began reading everything I could get my hands on regarding the subject. At age 16, I started becoming active in those movements.
Now, these facts are for you. Obama was born in 1961. The march on Washington occurred in August of 1963. The Selma to Montgomery march occurred in 1965. Those marches were not exactly spontaneous events, but rather were a culmination of years of work and organization, and Obama's "blabby" in Selma abouthis parents is perfectly chronologically consistent, unlike your LAME attempt to educate me.
Beyond that, I refuse to address this racial diatribe. I learned at an early age to DESPISE racists and have very little to nothing to do with them. I will, however, confront racism whenever I see it, without fail. Over these last 5 decades, I have developed a keen sense that enabled me to sniff out the stench of racism 1000 miles away. You, dear, are a consummate prejudiced, bigoted racist and as such, have absolutely no credibility no matter how vehemently you doest protest.
One more thing. Prejudice, bigotry and racism is an anachronism that belongs buried far back in that shameful chapter of our history and is definitely a huge part of what kind of change voters are seeking in this election...the goal being to march forward, not backwards. I for one will be on that march forward until the day I take my last ragged breath.
I would expect this lame comeback
Everybody is seeing Obama for what he is......nothing new!
That was lame.............Christ on a cracker!
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THE SAME, lame excuses! It was about the SIZE
and not asked for permission!
Logic and common sense tell me the content of this message
Our government agencies tend to err on the side of caution in these circumstances. I do agree that votes will not and should not be swayed one way or the other. I just found this to be a fascinating piece of news.
This lame scare tactic is aimed at
twisting both the free choice of English language usage and the Bible verse/word of Jesus (who you claim is your Savior) to support the claims of a snarky cult. Back in the Puritan times, that was considered blasphemy and the ONES who chose to do this could be burned at the stake.
You make me ashamed to be associated with the Christian faith.
Our sympathies to your lame brother. But shouldn't this
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Food for thought..lame duck watch (sm)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#27670344
Another lame attempt to try to not get people to read the article
Your computer got a virus, yeah right!!!!
You don't like that I'm not drooling all over the O like you are then fine, but to come out and say that articles that are not praising your god gives your computer a virus is a bunch horse hockey.
Sheesh, I would have expected a better excuse than that.
P.S. - Am anxious to hear the supreme courts ruling. They are meeting on the 5th. Although I know that all the O worshippers will try and cut it down for some insane reason. The SC's ruling will determine it. Let's just wait and see.
Same lame garbage JTBB spouted before election
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Cheney? All whatt he is saying now is just a lame attempt to justify all the
evil he did during this 8 years.
At least Bush keeps silent. I think Cheney was worse than Bush.
I bet Cheney has nightmares.
No wonder that he is so concerned with the security of this country, he is afraid somebody might 'get' him.
Lame duck watch --you're gonna love this...(sm)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#27831761
That's just lame, no cheese here, I work but I will take care of the poor unlike YOU nm
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I just don't have the energy to fight anymore, I guess. This was lame attempt!
I need to work anyway.
Calling people honey and dear just weakens your lame repub cause SOUR GRAPES
too bad you can't be a real American and be proud of Obama!
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