typical O supporter, can't take the facts, so switch
Posted By: isit2012yet on 2008-11-11
In Reply to: Yeah, lets talk about Billo the Clown and not the guy that died in US custody! (sm) - Just the big bad
to something else...your kool aid should wear off in about 6 to 8 months.
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Typical conservative lying and twisting of facts...
Note that the Army exceeded the June goal of 5,650 by 507 recruits……….but if it hadn’t have lowered the original goal which was 6,700, it would have missed its goal again by 545. Are these guys smart or what?
You guys just never get real or get honest...do you? ANd the pathetic part is that there so many folks who just follow along with the obvious deceptions and lies......
I did not mean typical of either party, just what I see as typical on
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bait and switch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiq3I0o_SHA
Bait and switch............
They were hornswoggled.
Switch fascist movement with
conservative movement and you have a winner for your very obtuse definition! All except the organic part. We liberals like to know where our food comes from whereas the conservatives don't really care as long as it's cheap and exploits poor farmers.
I know...they lied through the teeth....we had to switch channels....and they were on....sm
everywhere else too. Only dems, only one rep that I saw.
Tell a lie (and/or a bunch of lies) often enough, and it becomes the truth according to them, as reported and supported by the media.
Sickening really.
Bait & Switch Vote Changers
This is just one of many Dems who do this after time expires. Just so y'all don't think I'm a GOP hack, Kay Baily Hutchison has gotten countless letters from me about her so-called position on things. Now she thinks she'll be the next Gov. for TX? Not if I can help it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQpklhW8jDQ
Every voter should be doing his/her homework on their politicians in order to learn these types of things. You'll never hear about it on your so-called news.
If you would switch out of attack mode for just 1 sec, she is talking about HISTORY sm
NOT religion. Good grief.
On 3/17, Specter denied planning to switch. Here's the quote:
(Link provided below)
In a March 17th interview with The Hill, Specter said he absolutely would not switch parties:
"[Democrats] are trying very hard for the 60th vote. Got to give them credit for trying. But the answer is no.
I'm not going to discuss private talks I had with other people who may or may not be considered influential. But since those three people are in the public domain, I think it is appropriative to respond to those questions.
I am staying a Republican because I think I have an important role, a more important role, to play there. The United States very desperately needs a two-party system. That's the basis of politics in America. I'm afraid we are becoming a one-party system, with Republicans becoming just a regional party with so little representation of the northeast or in the middle atlantic. I think as a governmental matter, it is very important to have a check and balance. That's a very important principle in the operation of our government. It's in the Constitution on separation of powers."
Thanks for the civics lecture, Arlen. Apparently this is just another one of those "inconvenient truths" that got to be more than you could actually live with, eh buddy?
When racism fails to gain political traction, switch to
We can see just how well that's working for the camp.
Facts are facts - sorry you don't like it cos it doesn't support your candidate
You can't change facts. That's what makes them facts. You may not like it but that's the way it is.
ex-O supporter
Okay, so I have been reading a lot on Obama. Not his policies. I did happen to support a lot of his ideas. But the whole messiah thing really got me. My conclusion about the whole thing is this: I do believe in separation of church and state, however, O says he is a Christian. If that is true, he could not sit by and let people imply in any way that he is from God or the Messiah. This should be something he would speak about at some point in time, being God fearing and God following. This would go against a Christian's belief. So far, I havent heard him address this at all. Anyone else? I am not saying he is the antichrist, because according to my father, who is a preacher, and many other people the antichrist has to come out of Europe/Middle East? Anyway, something sure isnt right about all the fanfare.
I too am ex-O supporter
I too am an ex-O supporter. I voted for him in the primaries. Sure wish a lot of this stuff came out before hand, then Hillary would have won and even if she were to get in it would not be as bad as what is trying to get in.
I'm not a "geography" expert, but you said your dad said the antichrist comes from Europe/Middle east. Is Africa considered the Middle East? If Africa is not the middle east then, no I would not imagine its him. Needless to say he has the support and funding of many countries in the middle east.
I did read that Michael Savage is supporting McCain. He has a great radio talk show and by all means he is NO Bush fan. He is an idependent. He cuts Bush down all the time. So taking it from him who despises Bush (he has said some really negative things against Bush on his show) I would take what he says into consideration. Here are a couple things he said (I will post the link to the actual article afterwards). After that is another link to a preacher my husband had me listen to. The preacher is very knowledgable about Obama, Obama's family, Wright, and what is going on, etc. Very interesting and learned a lot listening to him. I'm looking for more of his sermons on other things besides Obama. I'm not religious (I'm a very spiritual person, just not religious) but I enjoyed his sermons so much want to hear him more.
On Michael Savage - the article says....
“You may say, oh, who listens to that guy Savage? What does an endorsement from him mean?
“It means more than you may imagine.”
Savage said his endorsement means more than the backing of a dozen newspapers he mentioned, including the Los Angeles Times, Newsday, Chicago Tribune and New York Post, because his “daily circulation is larger than any one of these newspapers.
“I have millions of listeners,” he continued, “most of whom, by the way, are independents. In case you don’t know it, they’re not all conservatives. Most of my audience are independents and they have been waiting for some kind of a signal…
“They despise what Bush has done to this country as much as you do.
“And I understand that John McCain is not really that much different in so many ways, that it’s hard to endorse him.
“I have put my own ego aside and I have to say what’s best for America.
“I’ll take my chances with the old war horse and even with Sarah Palin, who I’m not really a big fan of, by the way, over this naked Marxist revolutionary, because I don’t want to see what the next Pol Pot’s liable to do to the world.”
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/savage_endorses_mccain/2008/10/28/144993.html
Here's the preacher - well worth the time to listen to.
http://www.pyrabang.com/contenteditor.php?pd=4057&ps=4121&org=3955&target=http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/ndnr10-17-08.html
Anyway...welcome to the world of the awakened.
On one other note, what also makes me leery about Obama is that Farrakan (sp?) is telling all his followers that Obama is the Messiah. Just a bit too creepy and cultish for me.
ex O supporter
I wonder why the LA Times, who admitted they had a tape and refuse to release it to the public stating that they promised confidentiality to their source, would not want to release it? I can safely say that IF the video was in good favor for Obama, they would gladly release it. I am quite sure given the fact of its secrecy, it is quite negative about his connections.
As a supporter
I have yet to hear a gay?/no-way! supporter explain why gay marriage opens the door to polygamy any more than straight marriage does. The same "tools" that gay?/no-way! proponents strive to use to keep gays from marrying could be used to keep polyamorous couples of marrying.
I'm an Obama supporter, but...
...I think Hillary should stay in the race as long as it takes for every American to be able to participate in the voting process. Obama has said the very same thing, even though Hillary's been lying about it and saying he wants her to drop out.
Trust is the main issue I won't be voting for her. If she somehow "wins" the primary, I'll probably write in Senator Obama's name, but I could never vote for her with a clear conscience.
I'm an uninsured American with a terminal illness, and this may very well be the last election in which I'll be able to participate. This is the first time in my entire life that I don't feel my choice involves voting for the "least worst" person. It's the first time in my life I've actually been excited about voting for a candidate, and I'm grateful I had the opportunity to know what that feels like. 
Different if it comes from a supporter or the campaign....
neither McCain or Obama can control what supporters do...but this ad was from the Obama campaign. And it flies in the face of everything Obama said he was NOT going to do.
I am an Obama supporter and I think
what he has done is not forgetable, and am not sweeping anything under the rug. Are you sweeping under the rug that in his 26 years in the Senate all but 2 of them McCain has been for deregulation. Do you acknowledge his or any of the other Rep. part in this too. There will be plenty of crises as a President what will he do then?
I AM an Obama fan and supporter
Like I said, you really need to read the posts that you are responding to better.
Facts are facts. No bash intended.
It will be this stellar record from which voters will be assessing her and her running mate.
If you're offended, too bad. Facts are facts...
I know Muslims in this country who have turned from the hateful evil beliefs that were forced down their throats. They did not have the freedom to learn anything else growing up. But after they gained their freedom and came here, they were able to receive the Word of God and they have told me that NEVER were they taught anything about loving others, just other Muslims, and that the God they learned about spoke of nothing but killing and hate... so if Obama is receiving large donations from those middle eastern countries, as you say, and he is grounded in Muslim culture, being taught this in school for years as a child, do you honestly think he doesn't carry some of those beliefs with him? He's never denounced it.
Here ya go.........
http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm
stating facts folks, just the facts....if it's getting
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Folks want facts, you give'm facts and still
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This poster wants facts, facts, facts...
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Poster wants facts, facts, facts.....
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I'm a McCain/Palin supporter, sm
And I think it's pretty silly to be focused on this so late in the game. I for one, am a woman and a republican (sigh and a poor one at that) and I for one don't think Obama was calling Palin a "pig", it was just his choice of phrases. Many have used it before.
I'm still waiting for ONE Obama supporter on this
The news that he intentionally hid the 800K plus he donated to ACORN. His camp has admitted to it but said it was an "oversight".....yea, right! Obama knew what ACORN is mostly all about and he's all for that........ya know, voter fraud?!!! I'm still waiting for someone to post a fact to refute that statement made by his own spokesperson. Where is it? So many underhanded, deviant, illegal characters he has contact with......this is a dem that will NOT be voting for him.
Yes, these O supporter are "a joke". The hatred
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I am a firm supporter of the military, but --
My exhusband was a soldier the entire 20 years we were married and is in fact in Iraq right now; my son, whom I love dearly, is graduating from basic training on Friday. I support the military wholeheartedly, but that does not mean I have to support McCain.
I don't believe that our soldiers should be where they are and I don't believe they should have ever been where they are. And I believe that when they come home, they should have better support and better care than they are getting.
But I have the utmost respect for the military and their families and would always hope and pray the best for them. They did after all fight to give me the right to disagree on who their commander-in-chief should be.
That being said, I also do not think that serving in the military should be experience that counts in running the country. Just because McCain is a a war hero and former POW does not make him entitled to be the leader of the United States of America. That would be the same as saying my ex-husband could have that job; he has just as much experience in the military as McCain, not as a POW, but he has served many more years than McCain did.
She's not an Obama supporter so no concern
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Ron Paul supporter? Not wanting to fight, just asking.
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I should have mentioned I was a loyal Ron Paul supporter.
If that makes any difference.
A Hillary supporter in Pennsylvania has filed...
a lawsuit about Obama's citizenship. I have read...and I haven't read everything yet...that it alleges Obama was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii. I don't have all the details. I don't know if it has merit...I just know it was filed. Probably just sour grapes, but I think the timing is key...a few days before the convention starts. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
And yeah, QA'ing posts on a posting board is WAY over the top.
Hillary supporter's take on fannie/freddie....
I hope you haven’t just eaten, because what you are about to read will disturb you–and well it should. It’s proof that John McCain foresaw the Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae disaster in 2006– and tried against all Obama-Like minds to ward it off.
Below are John McCain’s remarks urging the passage of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, which he co-sponsored and which was rendered “Dead” in Congress.
Guess who prevailed and didn’t take heed? Or more appropriately, guess who deliberately “looked the other way”?
This is all we need to know to understand exactly WHICH candidate in this election is willing to break some eggs when it comes to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–two organizations that, with the help of certain Democrats, deliberately redistributed wealth the easy way. Now we are all paying for it, as intended all along. Just as John McCain warned below.
As we view the carnage, this is all we need to know to understand exactly WHICH candidate foresaw this carnage we are witnessing, and which candidate worked to convince the other candidate to help avoid it. It is all we need to know to recognize exactly WHICH candidate had the right judgment and was looking out for the rest of us.
Joe Biden? It’s time for US to be Patriotic? No. It’s time for YOU to be patriotic. In fact, it’s too late. As for you saying, “It’s time to be part of the deal”. We want no part of this “deal”. And what a “deal” it was!
May 26, 2006
Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae’s regulator reported that the company’s quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were “illusions deliberately and systematically created” by the company’s senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae’s former chief executive officer, OFHEO’s report shows that over half of Mr. Raines’ compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company’s accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
Quick Info
S-90 Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005
Last Action: Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. Ordered to be reported with an amendment in the nature of a substitute favorably.
Status: Dead
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190,to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.
Update: Well looky here. Here’s a glowing Wall Street piece on Obama, written in June 2008. You would think Mr. “Regulator” Obama really is Jesus looking out for us! But…..here’s the paragraph that hooked me–the paragraph that haunts today:
He characterized the senator as a quick study on financial services, citing his early support of efforts by Senate Banking Committee Chairman Chris Dodd and House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank to empower the Federal Housing Administration to help struggling homeowners.
Oh they “empowered” all right. The Democrats killed this bill while Dodd, Frank and Obama fiddled and helped Fannie and Freddie cook their books, continue to tank, all the while keeping the regulators out of their way. These are the guys who killed the bill that McCain fought for. The bill that would have avoided the financial disaster we witnessed during the past two weeks. In the meantime, take a look at which senators were feeding at the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac trough. My party is not what it used to be. My party has not only let me down, but it has also screwed me and my country in the process.
Note: All of these facts can be independently confirmed if you are interested in the truth of this matter.
i agree - i am a lover and supporter of the obvious
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Does anyone here speak McCain supporter incoherence?
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Ok, how about he was a "closet Obama supporter" until now..IMHO...nm
the response didn't come from an obama supporter
If you're referring to my response to the OP about scraping the bottom of the barrel. FYI I'm voting for McCain.
Voting McCain, and still a Hillary supporter...nm
AR, that is a compliment, coming from a supporter of murderous statements.
And, you can take your right wing rationalizations and put them where the sun don't shine. I am passionate about what I believe but in no way irrational. You might have a coherent argument to make if you thought you could best me or anyone else here logically or rationally, but I haven't seen you try. You're invited right now to express your political opinion and should you do so with dignity and respect, you'll be treated that way in return by the majority of people here, including me. Keep up the personal sniping like a spoiled child and that is exactly how you'll be treated in return.
I didn't miss the point - I have been a McCain supporter
I have been on this board arguing over and over why McCain is the better choice. I used to support Obama until a few weeks ago after he beat out Hillary and then all this stuff about his life and the people he associates with (forget Rev. Wright- I could care less about that little dweeb), but his affiliations with the worst of the worst, his voting record, his lies about how he will not tax us, yet has consistently voted to raise taxes on who? The middle income (around $42,000 - if you would call that middle income anymore). His not cutting back on any of the programs he wants to fund. The list goes on and on and on about what I don't like about Obama.
As for McCain - I think he's a decent guy. I think he's way more decent than many of the politicians in Washington. I think he has always been on the side of the people and has shown that by consistently arguing against both dems and pubs if it doesn't benefit the people. I strongly supported the ticket mainly because of Palin. She is certainly one of the most qualified out of the other 3. She has consistently balanced the budget as governer, cut back pork filled bills, stopped wasteful spending, and has done nothing but good things for the people of her state and I believe that will carry over if the republicans win.
I was so expecting a really good debate and believed Gov. Palin helped him tremendously with her outstanding debate outcome, so was expecting nothing but good with McCain. There were so many issues people were talking about with what McCain would need to do to win the debate. I didn't see any of it last night and left me wondering, who does he meet with before debates and speeches and does he listent to any of them. To me his performance last night was so bad shuffling around the stage. I was sitting here typing and heard loud and clear McCain say "that one" not only saying it, but the tone of his voice just hit a raw nerve with me. DH and I just looked at each other and shook our heads. As I stated earlier I was very disappointed as I have been on this board arguing over and over and over for McCain and against Obama. But I don't know what was worse. His saying "that one" or him overusing "my friends". Why hasn't anyone told him to knock it off. He uses it in almost every single sentance he says. Like I say, I got disgusted and turned off the debate. Right now I don't care anymore who wins the election. I'm voting for the constitutional party, if I do even vote at all.
I knew it was a matter of time before we would hear from a McCain supporter
I guess you must figure if you use his middle name enough times people are going to think what? That he's Saddam reincarnated? You really do not give America enough credit to know a name does not make a person who they are, the goodness they do and what they believe in make them a good person. So...when you post about John McCain do you write John Sydney McCain? And do you write Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton? No. You don't even know what Hussein means. Here's a bit of background of the origin of his name. Barack means "To bless" and Hussein means "to be good". Both are beautiful names. I know exactly what you are trying to do. You believe that if you say his name enough times in full people will think of Saddam Hussain. But there are many more good people with the name. For instance...King Hussein of Jordan. The person who wrote the Kite Runner is Khaled Hossain and many more. In fact there are more good people named Hussein than are bad.
Hussein is a very common name in Bangladesh just like Smith or Jones. His middle name honors his grandfather. In case you don't realize this, he was born in America and raised in a Christian home, went to christian churches. To incite feelings of "fear" because his middle name is Hussein? Well just shows what kind of person you are.
Also, you didn't show the good things he has done working in government. And the stuff you did write I don't think a lot of people know what all this means. I read it and its just mumbo jumbo. If you want to talk about bad records and bad things people have done while in government, lets post about Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton. There's enough reading material to last a lifetime.
Best friend to Hillary, a democratic supporter and financial contributer,
a member of the DNC's (Democrat) platform committee has decided to endorse John McCain. Lynn DE Rothchild is best friends of Hillary and gave her 100,000 for Hillary compaign. She had not even spoke to Hillary yet about her news, but Lynn announced on CNN today that she was resigning the DNC and voting for McCain. Lynn stated that our country is divided due to the Democrats and Congress. She also stated that we need to vote only for the president who will get us through what is going on with our country (which is a lot of things currently) and she stated the only one would be McCain and Palin. She stated, "I care more about my country right now than I do my democratic party." Wolf Blitzer stated to Lynn "You know you are are going to get a lot of flack from this?" Lynn stated that she knew this and just cares more about our country. Even Joe Lieberman endorses McCain who used to be AL Gore's running mate. I am sorry, but I agree that our country is divided.
I agree, and am not an Obama supporter. Just tired of all the racial conflict sm
tired of everything being all about race. If they were both black candidates, then people could all just vote their conscience without even thinking about race.
What's even more typical
....is when somebody posts the hypocrisy in your posts you accuse them of something in an effort to change the subject.
Go ahead and have the administrator track my IP address. I don't have anything to hide.
Typical
They're desperate. The fact that she had the decency to even think of something is refreshing. Truthfully, both parties need to try it more often.
If they want to continue this, fine. We can just keep reminding them how nobody on their side does anything to return $ to the taxpayers. All the libs want is to redistribute wealth and take more $ from you to give to someone else while further bloating the gov't. This is why the Republicans were punished by America and also their own party. They deserved it. Now we're reclaiming our party.
Ask your accountants how it'll affect you. I suppose some people will get lucky due to random numbers, but not the bulk of Americans.
typical
dumb dem drama queen
Typical ploy
Ask me a question and then answer it for me.
Where did I say *any*one wasn't entitled to spew as much filth as they want?
WHERE?
Typical apologist for the hate-mongerers out there: Don't address the real issue(s) just change the subject or wave a red herring.
This is so typical of you lefties. sm
Cut and run. It's your mantra. For all your crying about the innocent civilians killed in Iraq, that is NOTHING compared to what will happen when we leave. But you never mention that. Just like Vietnam. Well, at least your are consistent.
What is typical of the left?
It kind of got lost in the point you were trying to make, something about Lurker not answering your question the way you wanted her to...or somethin' like that.
Typical lib reply
The name-calling. You wear it so well.... Classy, honey.
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