tolerance...........oh brother!!!
Posted By: sm on 2008-10-10
In Reply to: you do not need to tell me what bothers me - MAX
Listen, I don't give a rat's butt about all this political PC garbage. Muslim countries hate us..... plain and simple. They so-called "religion" teaches hatred, not love, not tolerance, but pure hatred!! What about that don't you get?
After 9/11 everyone got to PC about profiling. We're worried about profiling? H@ll with that.....I saw profile them to death. If I happen to be on a plane, you better believe I, just like everyone else, was watching them like a hawk. You can be PC about everything if you want, but this is my country, not the Muslims. They have a country. They do not teach tolerance of ANYONE but themselves.
This has nothing to do with intolerance of those different than me. What an idiotic statement. I live in a community with people different than me in so many ways, it would take a while but one thing they all agree on.....they love this country more than they care about being PC. I posted a few days ago about a Muslim couple in our neighborhood. And, they said they would go back to their country any day if they felt safe. They feel no allegiance to this country. They will tell you they do not agree with bin Laden's hatred, but they do admit their sons are taught the Q'ran, which does not teach love of anyone but other Muslims. They fear their daughters could be stoned or raped and they know no one there will protect them. They take comlpete advantage of our schools to educate their children, but there is no allegiance to this country. You need to get off your PC pot because as you can see, that'll get us nowhere real fast!!!
Tolerance, what a joke. Why don't we just tolerate them coming on over here and taking another 9/11 blow at us? Will that be enough tolerance for ya?
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tolerance
I have my own set of beliefs. I have studied various religions. I am familiar with the Bible. I did not solict your advice on what I should or should not believe. I spoke about my hope for the future of our country with the strong candidates running for our next president. Please step off. What you think you know about all liberals is neither here nor there to me. I am here to discuss politics with liberals. How many times do I need to explain this? Now take your tamborine and move on,
Tolerance is
respectfully disagreeing with another person, not accepting everything a person believes.
I'm so tired of being told that I am intolerant. If you knew the truth about something and someone else was spreading lies, you would correct them. Christians know the Truth and when a false religion tries to spread lies that will ultimately condemn people to h.e.l.l. they do everything they can to combat that.
I've said this before: If you were about to walk out in front of a bus you would want me to stop you. I would be wrong for not at least trying to stop you. Well, you're about to get hit with the proverbial bus!
Zero tolerance for liars
Imagine how it would change the face of politics today if Republicans suddenly had TRUE "zero tolerance" for lying, cheating, stealing, vote fraud, false front groups, media shills, corporate malfeasance, crony capitalism, torture of innocents, war profiteering, oppressive foreign regimes and presidential dissembling.
But nah...instead they seem to have very high tolerance levels for all of the above - hence the claim to "zero tolerance", using their favorite trick of naming a thing the exact opposite of what it really is.
So much for the tolerance of the left. nm
Fundamentalists have no tolerance for anyone but themselves.
And for that reason, should not be running our country. They are simply self-serving right now saying they are doing it for the good of everyone else is a diseased excuse.
If their agenda was righteous they would not have to hide it and pretend it's something else in order to sneak their way into positions of authority. The truth is they know that their values and agendas would not be supported by the vast majority of Americans - so they cheat, scheme, and plot to put one over on us.
Is this the behavior of a moral group who sincerely believe in their gentle Jesus and his teachings? I don't think so.
I think you should take your exclusive agenda back where it belongs - into your churches and homes, and let everyone else keep their religions in their own way. THAT would be the tolerance you seem to value so much, but actually don't seem to understand in the least.
Actually, no I don't believe in one-sided tolerance...sm
This particular sign could have easily been displayed away from the creche, I feel, and it wouldn't have bothered me the least to see it.
You see, I also celebrate Winter Solstice, and the earth and the animals.
However, this particular sign seemed to be placed next to the creche to invoke upset from those who celebrate Christ's life and birth.
I like to imagine that perhaps baby Jesus kicked the sign to the ditch myself. He could have if he wanted to.
So, you only believe in one-sided tolerance? (sm)
As in the ditch was well deserved?
Thank you for your fairness and tolerance......nm
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Far left tolerance....(sm)
Ummm, actually we have shown tolerance until we are blue in the face. Let's see, we have tolerated an unjust war (oops, make that 2 wars) for how long? We have tolerated having *in god we trust* on money, a church on every corner, a preacher on most channels, religious signs all over the place, a republican president who doesn't know his a$$ from a hole in the ground, ...... the list is actually quite extensive. However, when it comes to something as simple as expecting equal rights that are supposed to be guaranteed by the constitution, we get slammed for just bringing it up. If an athiest sign is put up, it's all over the news (makes for good ratings, as Bill-O will attest to). What isn't all over the news is the daily discrimination dished out by the opposition.
Why don't I just answer my own question from below since noone else seems to be willing to give it a try. People who are against gay marriage say they are sacrificing. The only thing I see as them having to sacrifice is the joy they get from being able to hold a minority under thier collective thumbs.
Abortion - tolerance?
I ask this in the politest way possible and with all due respect. I felt the need to say this after reading the posts below.
Is it possible to be a little more sensitive to those who have undergone an abortion for whatever reason and to be careful on the words being chosen, such as "murder." I'm sure there are some reading these posts who have had an abortion. It can be a very traumatizing thing to go through, which you cannot take back. There are some of us who have become pregnant with very deformed babies that would be extremely difficult to raise, including the possibility of not surviving after birth, where the choice to abort was difficult but a personal decision. I'm not saying it's the right choice. I'm just saying sometimes a woman feels there is no other.
I say this from experience because I had to make that choice, and when I read that people think I'm a murderer and killed my baby, it makes it that much more hard to bear because I will always, always regret it. I know I'm forgiven, but sometimes it's still hard to think---what if.
Just please be sensitive with the words you choose, and know there are those of us out here who have made this choice and regret it and have to live with it for the rest of our lives.
The key word is tolerance....(sm)
not acceptance. I'm not advocating that everyone should accept homosexuality. To accept it would be to agree with it, which would obviously conflict with the personal interests of some. What I am advocating is tolerance. That would include restraining one's self from attacking verbally or physically simply on the basis of sexual orientation.
I think the point of the penguin story is to show that homosexuals are normal people who have feelings, goals, interests, families, etc. --- the moral: they may be homosexuals, but they are still people, no better and no worse than you or me.
Your tolerance is only for those in agreement.nm
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Tolerance applies except to the Christian right
then the gloves are off. Christians are not to be tolerated unless they are willing to *embrace* not just *tolerate* other views and/or lifestyles.
So much for tolerance of an opposing viewpoint....
talk the talk, don't walk the walk. Don't understand it, never will. Not trying to educate anyone; however, I am learning a good deal about liberals...and the differences among them. Very interesting indeed.
Have a good day....ignore away. :)
Yeah, and you show SUCH Tolerance, don't you?
Look, the Constitution of these United States says that the government shall have no part in establishing a religion, but it also will not prohibit the free exercise thereof. It is a constitutional right. So far, gay marriage is NOT. YOu want tolerance for gay marriage, fine. Show a little tolerance and less bullsh*t yourself, and someone might actually care about your point of view. :-)
Tolerance is NOT what they're being taught......
What they are doing is pushing crap down the throats of little children, undermining what their parents are teaching them at home. My children were not taught homosexuality is "okay" but neither were they taught to hate others just because they live a lifestyle that is different. There is a huge difference. Public education is paid for by the "taxpayers", not the federal govt, who is allowing this garbage in the first place. Obviously the federal govt forgot where they get their money from as well!!
If tolerance is your ONLY argument, they why aren't they teaching tolerance of the Bible, prolife, etc. THe list could go on and on. We all know what is going on here..... PUSHING A GAY AGENDA in a public school.
Children are sent to school to learn knowledge skills, not how John and Matt like to live together, which in case you don't get it, is morality. The last place I want my children learning morality is at school. They should be taught that at home in the first place. They see enough garbage in school as it is.
Well, there's a healthy dose of liberal tolerance for ya
You know your example was stupid...quoting porn stars. I think you're scraping the bottom of the barrell, and I can tell I hit a nerve..
Just one more example of that TOLERANCE liberals claim to disply...
they are very very tolerant, as long as everyone agrees with them. At least I am openly judgemental.
Oh, I can beat that. A picture of liberal tolerance and love for the troops. SM
LOL!!!! Oh brother. nm
oh brother !!!!!!!!
Don't you ever search out the truth or do you just ignore it altogether. Obama has come out and denounced Farrakhan. He doesn't agree with him and he has told Minister Farrakhan this. He finds Farrakhans comments disgraceful and not something he wants in his campaign. However, he can't stop someone from saying they like him and want him as president. There are lots of biggots out there with enough money to get their opinion heard whether its garbage or not. Spreading malicious garbage like this is so disgusting it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I guess you would rather have a president who is a socialist (you should read about her background).
SP brother in law
Anyone see the interview on CNN last night with SP's brother in law (the one she tried to have fired). I did not see it. What did he say?
SPs ex-brother-in-law....
This is a man wearing the uniform of the state police. The issues involved were: He tasered his 11-year-old stepson (who asked him to, but what kind of responsible adult would do such a thing?? And one who would should NOT be wearing the uniform of the state police in my humble opinion), he was found drunk on the job in his patrol car, and told his ex-father-in-law if he got his daughter a lawyer he would be eating an f'ing bullet. Now Palin says she did not fire the man who SHOULD HAVE fired this lowlife for that reason, but for other reasons. I choose to believe her, HOWEVER, if she HAD fired him for not firing this lowlife I would be in agreement with her 110%. This guy's boss was obviously NOT doing his job. It is a no-brainer. This man SHOULD have been fired. He has no business being in the state police. His appalling lack of judgment should be reason enough.
No, brother.
Well now, let's see. Is it that high-pitched nasal quality, the cheerleader lilt, the putred perk, the colloquialisms, the rambling, the echoes of Minnie Mouse, the shrill screech, the squeal, the Fran Drescher (Nanny) interludes, the nagging quality, the snide conceit, the holier-than-thou undertones, the sarcasm, the audible sneering, the condescension, or the arrogant tone that chaps you so?
Oh brother
So let me get this right...you ridicule and cut down anyone who posts a link from Fox yet you continue to post from BSNBC????????
Say it ain't so Joe.
Brother Bill
Apparently people have forgotten their outrage over Clinton's zipper problem in the White House and now he's revered regardless of the fact that he made us the laughing stock of the world. So why the outrage about Edwards? I'm outraged that he would do this to his gravely ill wife. As for Clinton, I lost all respect for Hillary for "standing by her man."
HE DOESN'T HAVE A BROTHER!
He has a half-sister.........................................Jeezus......it is raining stupid
That should read: No brother,
That's the second time I messed up the name line this morning. Must need a 3rd cup.
Oh brother - where to start is right.
His father left his mother when he was a baby? Yet Obama was able to write a whole book based on him? He has some communication with Kenyan relatives but not all? Where did you hear this? Wait...from him? Is that his explanation? So where did you study African Tribal Family Structures and the American family strucures? I think maybe people should take a break from the Survivor TV show. If the sheeple want to be led around blindly and actually buy into the same ol retoric of oh poor Obama, he didn't know he had an aunt or a cousin or an uncle because that's the way the "tribes in Africa" are, but he knows about all these others relative (Cheney & Irish ones). Glad I'm awake through all of this. Staying away from Survivor and doing some research does the mind some good.
Am I my brother's keeper?
Am I My Brother's Keeper
I find it interesting that he does not help his family. He has a brother living in poverty. CNN is not the station I would listen too as they are not going to tell you all about the candidates, or is MSNBC.
But it is true he has a brother living in poverty. My question is...why is he so willing to spread everyone else's wealth around but not his own.
Interesting.
Oh brother - get off the kool-aid
This is even weirder than the OP message.
Where's that icon of someone throwing up!
Oh brother. Obama is doing something,
You cannot spend and spend and think you are going to get out of a recession, but will cause inflation/depression.
If you are in debt, would you keep on spending more and more and get more into debt? No, you cut things out to reduce costs and try to pay off things. You find out you are in so much debt, you ask family and friends to bail you out. It works for awhile, but you are still in debt and now in more debt because of owing money to family and friends and before you know it, you are bankrupt which is just what is going to happen with this country. It is happening now.
As for creating jobs, sure, I am going to apply now to help make bridges and roads. Sorry, not my line of work.
If Obama fails, he stated at a town hall rally in Fort Myers, Fla, where the president promoted the bill, he said that in "a few years from now" if his prescriptions haven't worked and people don't feel like he's led the country in the right direction, "then you'll have a new president."
Hello, of course not, no one will vote for him again.
That was a clear reference to his likely re-election bid in four years.
Obama said he won't make any excuses if he fails in his effort to turn the economy around or improve the health care system.
"I won't lie to you," he said.
Obama hailed the Senate's passage of the massive stimulus bill.
"That's good news," the president said repeatedly in announcing the Senate's action to the crowd, as people jumped to their feet and cheered.
By the way, McCain is running for re-election and stated:
Being the Republican nominee for President was one of the great honors of my life and an experience I will never forget. Some have wondered, after my hard fought presidential campaign, if I plan to run for re-election to the United States Senate.
I want you to know that I do intend to seek re-election. The magnitude of the financial crisis that many American families are facing makes it clear to me that I want to continue to serve our country in the Senate.
The economic challenges currently confronting our nation are immense and unfortunately, the Democrats in Congress propose addressing these challenges through increased spending that wastes billions of taxpayers dollars and saddles our children and grandchildren with a staggering debt. Their proposals will not stimulate economic growth or create jobs. While the leader of the Democratic Party, President Obama, has pledged to change business as usual in Washington and spoken of bipartisanship, I have been saddened to watch as Congressional Democrats try to use their majority to advocate more of the same failed policies and wasteful spending of the past. With so much at stake, now is not the time to step away from my work in the Senate.
Sincerely,
John McCain
Oh brother. Obama is doing something,
heading us for a major depression.
You cannot spend and spend and think you are going to get out of a recession, but will cause inflation/depression.
If you are in debt, would you keep on spending more and more and get more into debt? No, you cut things out to reduce costs and try to pay off things. You find out you are in so much debt, you ask family and friends to bail you out. It works for awhile, but you are still in debt and now in more debt because of owing money to family and friends and before you know it, you are bankrupt which is just what is going to happen with this country. It is happening now.
As for creating jobs, sure, I am going to apply now to help make bridges and roads. Sorry, not my line of work.
If Obama fails, he stated at a town hall rally in Fort Myers, Fla, where the president promoted the bill, he said that in "a few years from now" if his prescriptions haven't worked and people don't feel like he's led the country in the right direction, "then you'll have a new president."
Hello, of course not, no one will vote for him again.
That was a clear reference to his likely re-election bid in four years.
Obama said he won't make any excuses if he fails in his effort to turn the economy around or improve the health care system.
"I won't lie to you," he said.
Obama hailed the Senate's passage of the massive stimulus bill.
"That's good news," the president said repeatedly in announcing the Senate's action to the crowd, as people jumped to their feet and cheered.
By the way, McCain is running for re-election and stated:
Being the Republican nominee for President was one of the great honors of my life and an experience I will never forget. Some have wondered, after my hard fought presidential campaign, if I plan to run for re-election to the United States Senate.
I want you to know that I do intend to seek re-election. The magnitude of the financial crisis that many American families are facing makes it clear to me that I want to continue to serve our country in the Senate.
The economic challenges currently confronting our nation are immense and unfortunately, the Democrats in Congress propose addressing these challenges through increased spending that wastes billions of taxpayers dollars and saddles our children and grandchildren with a staggering debt. Their proposals will not stimulate economic growth or create jobs. While the leader of the Democratic Party, President Obama, has pledged to change business as usual in Washington and spoken of bipartisanship, I have been saddened to watch as Congressional Democrats try to use their majority to advocate more of the same failed policies and wasteful spending of the past. With so much at stake, now is not the time to step away from my work in the Senate.
Sincerely,
John McCain
Lastly, I just have to say this. I bet those 3 pubs were blackmailed. Probably did not pay their taxes either. LOL.
my ex-brother-in-law got SSI because he had a temper! nm
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Answer to Brother!, not Skeet
You sound like Big Brother! Creepy!
Lawsuit...Biden's son and brother....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/23/AR2008082302200.html?dbk
oh, brother. just some nice photos,
for crying in a bucket!
Ran this past my brother who is a lawyer and...sm
a republican I might add (much to my chagrin) and he said it is a frivolous lawsuit. He added, which I already knew, it does not matter where he was born, who his father was, who he was adopted by, or where he went to school. His mother is an American citizen and he is therefore an American citizen, period. This is all just smoke and mirrors, lies, diversions from the real issues.
I didn't know Pete had a brother. LOL!
God bless!
BTW, how many adoptions has your brother dealt
NM
Oh brother. Dems are launching a
FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Oh, I forgot, we have to "change" to socialism. Well, I did not vote for it and proud of it. YES I CAN.
Oh brother!...now you're really stretching..
What a silly statement.
Oh brother - president of death???? please
Because our president believes in a woman's right to choose you call him a president of death??????? Because he's fighting so that children themselves who get pregnant and not emotionally or physically or financially able to have a baby don't have to have one you say he's a president of death?????
Your other post was religious oriented, hence with all the talk of God and how we're all doomed and are going to he!! that belonged on the faith board.
Our president is not a president of death. We have a president who is on the side of a woman being able to choose.
Obama does not want to "murder" babies. You really need to get your facts straight before proclaiming something that is incorrect. You may disagree (as I do about some of his policies - who doesn't), but to say the things you are saying is outrageous and bordering on lunacy.
Obama does not want babies murdered and he certainly is not a president of death. You are certainly the one who is misinformed (not uninformed).
If you want to protest taxes, health care, the spending bill, foreclosures of homes, loss of jobs, etc, that's one thing, but abortion is a religious viewpoint and by your posts professing to know that Jesus is alive/here (or however exactly you said that) and god this and god that and you'll be praying for all of us, etc. That is a topic for the faith board so take it there.
Oops - my slip it was OBL's brother - thanks for correcting me
On Sep 11, the morning of the attack, Bush Sr. meets with members of the Carlyle Group in Washington. Bin Laden's own brother was at the meeting.
Sorry about the mixup, thanks for pointing it out.
Have you ever seen me post anything about the Kenyan brother story?
I don't remember seeing that on this board at all. Maybe I missed that. I realize there are those on both sides who engage in this kind of thing...but does that mean that everyone has to en masse? Could not individuals decide that was not the thing to do, like your candidate asked?
Did read it. So what? Take a chill pill, like my brother used to say....nm
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He DOES have a half-brother living in Kenya
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Oh brother - it amazes me how many are caught up in a fantasy
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