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and about Bush's bogus war against a country that never attacked us and had nothing to do with the Taliban.  Bush started out pretending to want to get bin Laden.  Remember wanted, dead or alive?  He then quickly abandoned that and focused on the fake war in Iraq because he obviously didn't want to get Usama Bin Laden, dead or alive.

Obama instead said we need to focus on Usama Bin Laden because he was the one who was responsible for 9/11.

**A worsening war in Afghanistan — and a growing Taliban and al-Qaida insurgency in the tribal areas of nuclear-armed neighboring Pakistan — will loom large on the agenda for President-elect Barack Obama during the next four years.

On the campaign trail, Obama argued that the war in Iraq has drained troops and resources from the battlefield in Afghanistan, causing the situation there to deteriorate. He has described Afghanistan as "the war we need to win," and he has pledged to send at least two more brigades of U.S. troops to reinforce the 70,000 U.S. and NATO forces already serving in the country.

Obama has also pledged to press NATO allies to contribute more forces, and he has said he will step up training for the Afghan army and police, as well as increase non-military aid to Afghanistan by $1 billion.

"When I am president, we will wage the war that has to be won," Obama vowed, outlining his plans in an Aug. 1, 2007, speech at the Wilson Center in Washington, D.C. "(But) the first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan." **

Obama was asked if his wife was a member of the Counsel of Foreign Affairs and I saw him refuse to answer more than once.....

Go research this CFR organization......you'll see - as I read it - it's involved with the New World Order........New American Century and all that jazz.....scary, to tell ya the truth.....as a liberal -

the U.N. overstepped its bounds?  And what about the United Kingdom that controlled the area in the early 1900s? 

Like it or not nations are formed through civil war.  There are winners and there are losers.  It's really very simple.  The process has not changed for centuries and it will never change.  The strong prevail.  The righteous prevail. The minute we take a liberal viewpoint, that's the exact minute we become weak. 

Today on the conservative board, there were 10 new posts, and not ONE LIBERAL posted any of them.

Today on the liberal board, there were 20 new conservative posts.

20 to 0.

Obviously they find their own board boring since they posted twice as many posts here as they did on their own board.  But then we already knew that, didn't we?

As if Arkansas doesn't have enough of the creatures already, they released a bunch of rattlesnakes and copperheads  in Devil's Den State Park a few years back and that's not too far for them to slither up this way.  Those varmits are most definitely not timid and I fear to go outside at night without a flashlight lest I encounter one of them..

for an unncessarily lengthy period of time.

you even asked it.  Go back up a few posts and you'll see where I said:

"I'd say the same about anyone who dies after they cast their vote but before the election.  It shouldn't count.  Where's the accountability?"

Anyone would refer to grandma, pap, brother, sis, aunt, uncle, etc. 

Geez, you people make it so easy for me to feel smart. 

I don't know if welfare varies from state-to-state, but you don't see people living the high life on welfare in my state. They have to work a 40 hr week. They have to get some type of training (even with children, they get subsidized childcare). They are not allowed to live year after year on welfare - they get cut off for a few months and then they have to reapply. For the scum who don't want to work - they just make meth. It's easier than applying for welfare and they make a whole lot more money.

If someone is in a hard spot, i.e., husband leaves wife with children and she needs help, I don't begrudge that. Years ago, it was just like you say, but not anymore. My husband did just that. Took off out west and I had 2 kids and a part-time job decorating donuts and no car. I had to go on welfare because my son is handicapped and needed consistent medical care. I remember sitting whole days in the doctor's office because my kids weren't seen until every last insured patient was seen. It was horrible. Sick kids with fevers crying all day in a doc's office. I wanted to kill myself. I hated the situation I was in and was determined to get out of it.

Fortunately, I was eligible for grants. My son's school for the handicapped got my son SSI (otherwise we couldn't afford to live on welfare alone). I went to school and after graduation got a full-time job. I ended up raising my kids in my OWN home. It wasn't a palace, but it was home. I paid $26,000 for that house - payments were $250 a month including taxes and insurance. I couldn't rent for that. I got the house loan because of my credit, not because it was a handout.

I don't know a single solitary soul who gets welfare (truth). I did years ago and it was just like you said - they'd collect their welfare and work under the table with no worries, and yes, I resented that. It's not so easy anymore - the bums just sell drugs to make a living now. I guess that's "work" and if there wasn't a demand, they'd be out of business......sigh