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Posted By: gt on 2005-08-25
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rock stars, Britney Spears

Greek Temples, worshippers, dippity do, bang a lam a ding dong, riki tiki tavi . . . all just words, labels and silly attacks to distract from the serious issues of this election.  BO could stand on a cardboard box and his words would still ring true.


 


and it's not okay for stars to perform at the white house? what about this?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/07/barbra-streisand-visits-t_n_149133.html
From **Stars and Stripes** Obama: Taking the fight

Obama: ‘Taking the fight’ to Afghanistan


New president will have his hands full with war that is eclipsing conflict in Iraq




A worsening war in Afghanistan — and a growing Taliban and al-Qaida insurgency in the tribal areas of nuclear-armed neighboring Pakistan — will loom large on the agenda for President-elect Barack Obama during the next four years.


On the campaign trail, Obama argued that the war in Iraq has drained troops and resources from the battlefield in Afghanistan, causing the situation there to deteriorate. He has described Afghanistan as "the war we need to win," and he has pledged to send at least two more brigades of U.S. troops to reinforce the 70,000 U.S. and NATO forces already serving in the country.


Obama has also pledged to press NATO allies to contribute more forces, and he has said he will step up training for the Afghan army and police, as well as increase non-military aid to Afghanistan by $1 billion.


"When I am president, we will wage the war that has to be won," Obama vowed, outlining his plans in an Aug. 1, 2007, speech at the Wilson Center in Washington, D.C. "(But) the first step must be getting off the wrong battlefield in Iraq, and taking the fight to the terrorists in Afghanistan and Pakistan."


Obama has said he will not "tolerate a terrorist sanctuary" in Pakistan, and he has suggested that he will send U.S. forces on cross-border raids to eliminate high-value terrorists if the Pakistani government cannot or will not take action.


But making campaign promises is one thing. Turning them into realities on the ground is another.


Afghanistan is quickly eclipsing Iraq as the deadlier of America’s two wars. Since May, U.S. casualty figures in Afghanistan have virtually matched those in Iraq on a monthly basis, and for the past two months, more U.S. troops have died in Afghanistan than in Iraq.


At least 151 U.S. troops have died in Afghanistan so far this year, making 2008 the deadliest for U.S. forces since the war began seven years ago, according to icasualties.org. Another 104 soldiers from other countries also have died, according to the Web site. Insurgent attacks and the numbers of civilians killed in the war are also at an all-time high.


At least 626 U.S. soldiers have died in Afghanistan since the war began in 2001.


More troops urged


There are currently about 33,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan, but commanders have been clamoring for more forces. U.S. Gen. David McKiernan, the commander of NATO-led troops, has said that at least 10,000 more soldiers are needed in the country, along with more helicopters, intelligence teams and logistics support.


But with 150,000 U.S. servicemembers committed to Iraq, a significant drawdown is going to have to occur there first, Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, warned last June. And analysts caution that sending more troops to Afghanistan is not likely to have the same effect as it did in Iraq, where the so-called troop "surge" last year played a significant role in reducing violence.


"My sense is that we’re not going to troop-surge our way out of Afghanistan," said Stephen Biddle, a former Army War College professor and now a senior fellow on defense policy at the Council on Foreign Relations in Washington, D.C. "The problem is that the troop ratio needs are too much. Conventional wisdom says that there are not enough feasible reinforcements that can be sent to Afghanistan, even if you draw down fully from Iraq."


In addition to sending at least another two combat brigades to Afghanistan, Obama has said he will press other NATO countries to send more troops and that he would push for those countries that have restrictions on sending troops into combat to lift them.


But there now appears to be little appetite within NATO for either.


Britain, which has 8,000 soldiers operating mostly in Helmand province in southern Afghanistan, has said it doesn’t plan to send any reinforcements, even as it pulls its remaining forces out of Iraq. Britain has lost more than 121 soldiers in Afghanistan, the second-highest total after the United States.


Canada, which has 2,500 soldiers operating in neighboring Kandahar province, plans to pull its troops out of the province by the end of 2011. Canada has lost 97 troops so far, the third-highest total of the war.


France has about 2,600 soldiers serving in Afghanistan, and its parliament voted in September to send another 100 troops, along with more helicopters, unmanned aircraft, mortars and intelligence gathering equipment. But according to press reports from the country, polls indicate that opposition to the Afghan mission is growing. France has lost at least 24 soldiers in Afghanistan since 2002.


Of the other major NATO powers, Germany has about 3,000 soldiers operating in Afghanistan, but its troops are limited to operating north of Kabul, mostly away from combat, and Berlin has repeatedly resisted pressure from the United States and Britain to send troops south into the fighting. Germany has lost about 28 soldiers in Afghanistan, and the mission remains deeply unpopular among Germans.


"It’s probably not going to happen, in terms of caveats or numbers," said Michael E. O’Hanlon, who specializes in U.S. national security policy at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C., speaking of a larger NATO commitment.


The Pakistan problem


In addition to dealing with the war in Afghanistan, Obama is also going to have to confront a growing Taliban and al-Qaida insurgency in Pakistan’s tribal areas, which some analysts see a bigger and more important threat.


"Dealing with Pakistan, where America’s mortal foe al-Qaida is nestled alongside the Taliban, is clearly the most pressing problem we face," Bing West, a retired Marine and former assistant secretary of defense under President Reagan, wrote last week in The National Interest, a foreign policy journal.


In one of his most provocative stances of the campaign, Obama suggested that he would send U.S. combat troops into Pakistan to take out terrorist targets.


"If the United States has al-Qaida, bin Laden, (or) top-level lieutenants in our sights, and Pakistan is unable or unwilling to act, then we should take them out," Obama said, during the first presidential debate at the University of Mississippi on Sept. 26.


But the one known cross-border raid that U.S. forces conducted into Pakistan on Sept. 3 elicited strong condemnation from the Pakistani government, which threatened to open fire on any more U.S. troops who cross the border.


Pakistan has also demanded that CIA missile attacks on its territory be stopped. Missile attacks by unmanned drones operated by the CIA have gone up dramatically in recent months, as U.S. officials have complained that the Pakistani military has not done enough to go after Taliban and al-Qaida sanctuaries in the tribal areas.


The ISI, Pakistan’s powerful intelligence agency, has long-standing ties to the Taliban and other militant groups that date back to the war against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan in the 1980s, and the agency has funded Kashmiri militant groups in its decades-long struggle against India. Pakistan claims those ties have been severed, but many Western officials remain skeptical.


While more attention to Pakistan is generally welcomed among analysts, some warn that taking too much aggressive action in the country could actually destabilize relations with the United States and harm efforts to hunt terrorists.


Independent U.S. action should be taken "only if we have a very, very high-value target in our field of view," said O’Hanlon.


Biddle said that he would be "careful" judging from Obama’s campaign statements how aggressive he might be in Pakistan.


"It’s his way of indicating he’s not soft on terrorism," Biddle said. "(But) I would hope that as a citizen and a taxpayer that should Obama be elected, strategy reviews of these positions would take place between him and his advisers."


This brings to mind...sm
Matthew 10:22 - "And you will be hated by all for My name's sake..."
And yet he brings in more to destroy this

This man is taking this country down down down!!!  He just keeps hiring and surrounding himself with more left left left left liberals until this country is destroyed!!!  LET THE GOVERNMENT RUIN YOUR LIVES should be our NOW government's motto.....  sorry bunch of jackarses. 


This woman sickens me to no end...... he hires everyone who thinks ONLY the government should make all our decisions and now he hires the witch who thinks our government should run our news media as well!!!! 


There's just something about when evil starts to walk around openly; , I think it's not a stretch, but rather the expected notion that they're openly attempting to influence public opinion through their propaganda arm, the mainstream media


 


http://www.infowars.com/obama-appointee-wants-soviet-styled-media/


AND NOW OUR GOVT THINKS THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR "LAUNCHING" A FOREIGN NEWS SITE......  think again!!!  That's the private sectors' business!  Propaganda administration....


http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2008-04-30-sites_N.htm


Earlier administration also has to share the blame.....


http://www.infowars.com/print/ps/pentagon_psyops.htm


 


 


 


If we are so dead and have no issues, what brings you here? sm
In the same boat eh?


Al Franken brings class
Just what we need in there. 
I bet they wish for the crowds Obama brings in
Now those are crowds!
No to torture ! This brings only hate and more war! ..nm
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How about if EVERYBODY brings a Christmas tree to the office?.???.nm
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Which brings us back to the Palin family drama

Parents are not omniscient.  You can tell your kids what you expect them to do.  You can lead by example.  But they will often insist on making their own mistakes, not trusting your having learned those particular lessons for them.  How many kids say 'my parents would kill me if they knew' and really mean it?  Yet they choose to test the waters anyhow.  Kids are immortal, you know.  Shouldn't a kid feel that, no matter what, they can go to their parents when they are in big trouble rather than try to hide the fact and make things much worse? 


At that point, on the first or second offense, do you go all 'old testament' on them and throw them out?  Or do you try to support and guide them from there, helping them learn the lesson in their mistake and make the best of the bad situation they created? And this does not necessarily include 'making it all better' (the abortion, posting bail, blaming the school)  but rather allowing them to experience the consequences of their act and letting them know that you hate the act, but still love them.


Brings to mind the lie the US government told about Agent Orange not being toxic...

What's more crazy than that?
Other than maybe the US military deciding that soldiers who have been involved in community theater are gay and should be kicked out of the military.  LoL.
He is truly crazy. sm

This is amazing.  Bush has the gall to say that secret prisons and torture are not against the law. When he is told that it is in fact against the law, he says that its okay because he doesn't agree with the law... My God...his cheese has flipped off his cracker.  He is going to protect us - we need protection from him. 


 


Interview with Matt Lauer


http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/09/12/matt-lauer-goes-after-bush-over-secret-prisons-and-torture/


It's just crazy...sm
And conservatives wonder why people are against little things like mixture of church and state. This sheds a new light on how I look at church and state.

I've always thought there should be a separation. It's like all of these things - faith based government funding, law suits about 10 commandments in federal buildings, you know - allow religion to slowly creep into the realm of government until one day we wake up and there are Christian militants all around us and we wonder how we got there. That's a long shot of course, but the more we think things like Jesus Camp are acceptable the more crazier it will get, let me tell you.
it is crazy, isn't it? nm
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It was crazy!
One of them had a nightstick?! What could their purpose have been other than to cause intimidation? It was just creepy. I got to vote by mail, thank God.
You have a gun? This is crazy.
Why are you even saying that
You crazy or what, he would not have
back then!! You think folks had a problem with a Catholic then, whoa, wait a minute....a black man . . . running for president? Get real!
are you crazy?
again this just makes me laugh because can you REALLY re-read what you just wrote and say that does not describe the liberals for the past 8 years????

come on, dont be a hypocrite, just try it, once. please
Color me crazy.
I think Hillary overall has a better package than the rest.
Those crazy Americans....sm
What our Indian and Pakistani counterparts must think, if they haphazardly happen to click onto this board!!!!!!!
not crazy, nor troll nm
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Not to worry. You are not the crazy one...sm
Pretty scary even if the poster represents only a small percentage of Americans. Thank God above they are in the minority. Keep the faith. Better times are coming. THese are just the tactics of desperate ignorant people but we will rise them up with us and show the world that Americans as a whole are not ignorant, gun toting, bigoted war mongers. Keep the faith.
Other countries are not so crazy about him
I mentioned in another post that a lot of other countries do NOT want him to be the president. People in other countries are describing concerns as he says he is going to change the world and they like their countries just the way they are. The only countries that do want him as our president are our enemies.
Has to make you think about that one.
That is crazy!. If you truly see things that way,
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Olbermann is off the chain crazy...LOL...nm

Crazy Obama Stories
This website has some crazy Obama stories. Good for some light reading and laughter.

p.s. I think I better change my name to Jodi sixpack so people know I am a woman, lol
Obama is FAR from a socialist... ru crazy?
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That woman has crazy eyes . . .
You know when you can see the whites of the eyes all around the iris. Them's crazy eyes.
Where on earth do you people get those crazy
getting any 'free money'. The super-rich will have to pay more of their fair share. For lots of others, it'll stay the same. For those of us who are hanging on by our toenails and making less & less money (umm.... medical transcriptionists, perhaps?), we'll get a bit of a break at tax time. But handing out free money? You gotta be kidding.
Drives you crazy, doesn't it?
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At this crazy time in our life
with North Korea testing missiles and Iran going nuclear, etc......our fearless leader Barry cuts back on missile defence.  Swift move moron!
I hope he makes it (world is crazy)
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Some crazy loon on talk radio today
said that Bush's grandfather had Kennedy assasinated.  Do you believe that?
This is the same poster who goes on Gab board and says crazy things then says it was all 100% lies (
You shouldn't even humor her by answering her. If you look on Gab board you will see what I mean, she is crazy and a troll.
Drives you crazy when a candidate shows conviction
a steady hand, a good head on his shoulders and the crowds respond enthusiastically, doesn't it?
Unless it's a crazy conspiracy-theory driven right winger
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CBS has taken the page down. Probably...
had a lot of complaints.
EVERY page, lol!
:)
Go to the top of the page for the ...
refundable language everyone has been looking for.
Looks like we were on exactly the same page! :-) nm

Second page...(sm)
about the 4th topic down starts under the subject of *Link to Comm...*  I've done a lot worse than that...LOL
Down the page is an even more

upsetting one that I read. The Vets are fighting to keep a cross in memory of all who lost their lives on a piece of property that used to be federal land. It was traded for acreage that the vets owned.


 


http://www.onenewsnow.com/Legal/Default.aspx?id=564946


Did you post this on Gab board: I think I'm going crazy - need some insight (long) - anon..nm
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This page alone looks like there are more conservative.sm
posts on here than liberal, if not the number would be pretty darn close.
page has been removed...wonder why?
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I'm on the page, I'm looking at the result
http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx

OP said Likely voters 49/47. That's what it states. You can decide to pick and choose which ones you want, but drudge said of likely voters 49/47. That is what OP said. Also OP said "for anyone who believes in polls". The dems are all are so he!! bent on choosing only what benefits Obama. This poll still benefits Obama so what's the problem. Yes you can still site the other two which are not a true representation but they are 49/43 and 51/45. You are still only talking about a 6 point lead. That is not a heck of a large lead to claim victory. When there are still about 3 weeks to go.

Man I hope McCain wins then I'll come back and listen to you all whine. The race is not over yet. If Obama wins I will not be happy, but I will come on and admit I was wrong, but if McCain wins prepare for the other.
Oh ye of little faith. Go to the top of the page.
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says page could not be found???
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See new string top page one
pertaining to all this.