that is what I never understood especially 8 years ago...
Posted By: MTPockets on 2008-10-09
In Reply to: Pretty ugly stuff for someone . . . - badpenny
the people vote, but rather than what the majority wants there are those who will force themselves as leaders (Bush, remember that entire fiasco?, taking it to the courts and becoming president in an underhanded way) - and then he totally runs this country by his will only, selfishly just everything that he wanted, runs it into the ground, dividing this nation wider than ever in history (perhaps to the point of north/south days), and here is someone else next in line for the same thing? Someone who thinks he is owed the presidency simply because he wants it - not at all caring what the needs for the country are.
Politicians are SERVANTS, they are supposed to serve us, NOT the other way around. How does this keep happening that we are becoming subservient as our rights more and more are being swallowed up by these men (and now woman) who think we are here just for their benefit to live off.
We need some humanity and someone humble in the white house, that is what appeals to me so far about Obama. Say what you will but he is a servant for the people, I actually do believe that he will look after those less fortunate and I would rather him watch my back in a dark alley -
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I understood her post perfectly - 4 years in 4 minutes
What part of that don't you understand. Pretty simple to figure out.
(long) I have never understood...
...how women have been misled into believing this is a "women's issue." This is a HUMAN RIGHTS issue...no pregnant woman I have ever heard of has ever had anything other than a HUMAN BABY at the conclusion of a pregnancy. That is the end result of a pregnancy, and there is no other conclusion EVER, unless a pregnancy is terminated either voluntarily or spontaneously. Human beings have rights under the Constitution of the United States...the right to LIFE, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Sort of difficult to get the last two if you are deprived of the first one. This country has laws to protect people from being murdered, from having their lives taken from them by another person. I have never understood why babies (and you can call them fetus, fetal tissue, "product" of a pregnancy, whatever you like, but women are pregnant with BABIES) would not have the same right to live as any other human being. There are important issues that women should be fighting for. The right to equal pay for equal work, the right to be treated as equals with regards to credit and housing and financial situations, the right for protection from domestic violence situations, healthy issues, other social issues. THE RIGHT TO KILL YOUR OWN CHILD SHOULD NOT BE A RIGHT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR. Women should stand together and fight for a common goal. This should NOT be that goal.
I never understood the whole thing
I never actually thought Joe was a plumber. Thought that was just an analogy. All I remember is he asked a legitimate question that all of us wanted to know and Obama stumbled on it realizing afterward that what he said didn't sound too good. Then I hear that he's being investigated and harassed all because he asked a question. I think the opposition using the excuse that he was a "plant" was a bunch of hoo-ah because they had "plants" in the McCain camp. But to have your life destroyed because of this???? I hope Joe wins big time.
I heard EXACTLY what she said and understood her
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His comments were very clearly understood....can you
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Yes, i read, and if I understood you correctly...
CNN was circumventing Obama, which is not surprising, because while they do have a liberal bias, they also have a very CLINTON bias. I was just pointing out that they are not a bastion of integrity.
I don't think he understood or believed a word he said.
And how can I believe him when he has done nothing but lied before? Boy who cried wolf? I s'pose I'm putting my trust, whatever trust is left, in congress. 
I understood Obama's plans
thus my message below. I was simply responding the the wish for socialized medicine that equals that of the wonderful place we call Iraq!
Sarah is not a hypocrite....and if you understood...
socialism you would see the gaping difference. Every person in Alaska gets a check. Including the rich. Alaska is not taxing some citizens at a higher rate to redistribute their wealth to less wealthy Alaskans, even some who do not even pay taxes.
Big difference.
Share the wealth can mean a lot of things. Obama was very clear with Joe the Plumber. He wants to redistribute Joe the Plumber's wealth to other people. He said so. Not eVERY person in America. Just the "people below Joe." THAT is socialism.
See the difference?
I understood you perfectly....pull out the military....
and what little stability there is will be gone. I cannot see it going any other way. What exactly do you see happening if we pull the military out? Seriously. What will the insurgents do? What will the sunni and shiite militias do? I am serious...what do you think would happen?
My comment was directed at "me" and she understood me...sm
I was hoping everyone would come together, no matter who wins, echoing her thoughts. She understood what I meant.
No offense intended.
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If you watched the actual show you might have understood it
Glenn Beck actually cares about what is going on in this country. He is giving the everyday American a chance to let our voices be heard.
If you go to his website (which I'm sure you wouldn't do) he talks about "Project 9.12". He talks about the 9 principles and 12 values. He's allowing people like you and me a chance to let our voices be heard. The country is going down a dark hole and if it doesn't get fixed we will never see the light again (AIG is just one of the many things that will bring it down).
Unlike whiny Olberlame or Mathpukes. Those two make my skin crawl. I can take Rachel Maddow to a certain extent but then she gets on her whiny role too. Your viewpoint of any other news station other than My Socialist News Butt Channel (MSNBC) is so pathetic in it's writing. If your going to go down the road of blatant money-grubbing, media hogs who pray on the pathetic then you are talking about the liberal media stations. Talk about praying on the pathetic ignor@nt. You want to see hate-spewing turn on the MSNBC crowd. When things don't go their way it's like watching a bunch of rabid dogs foaming at the mouth attaching anyone who doesn't agree with them.
Maybe it would be good to actually watch the Beck show before commenting on it because then you would at least might remotely possibly know what your talking about. Otherwise it looks like another agent of MSNBC is filtering on this board.
I guess you think that having people who are liberal on as guests and treating them with respect, letting them speak what's on their mind and saying. "Okay, I'll give you that. I may not agree with you, but your entitled to your opinions" I guess you consider that hateful spewing??? I don't get it. You go to MSNBC (watched that station through the Bush years because my viewpoints were more aligned with theirs), but after awhile you just gotta step back and say wait a minute, that's not fair no matter whether I don't like the other side or not. There is a time when you have to start thinking for yourself. Fox channel does that. They present issues and don't tell you how you should be thinking. They let you decide for yourself. They give both sides an equal chance. But if your one of those liberal loving all democrats do nothing wrong and all republicans do nothing right, and you only get your news from the liberal stations, then yes, what you wrote is true about the "pathetic uneducated half-wits that hang on every word of their hateful spewing garbage" by Mathpukes and Olberlame and the likes of that station.
In case you don't know, America is waking up and turning to Fox and turning off MSNBC, CNN and others because we want to hear the truth. Not the mean-spiritic spew that comes from those stations.
BTW - Fox has 1,217,000 viewers compared to the socialist MSNBC station of 480,000 and Communist News Network of 633,000. That's more than twice as many people. At least I feel like I'm in good company.
For this you have to wait at least 3 years and 8 months , maybe 7 years and 8 mohths...nm
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Not quite- 2 years Catholic, 2 years Muslim. NM
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In 100 years, no one will that's for sure. NM
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Could be, he's never come on TV? Years ago maybe?
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oh, okay, but he followed him for 20 years!
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Which was 4 years ago....
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You were 16 years old once...
what if it was said about you, about your daughter if you had one....or about your mother when you were 16?.....come ON now. YOu know how vulnerable girls are at that age. That was a really really really LOW below the belt hit. Mean and nasty.
Except for the first 6 years.
In other words, 75% of the time. Even when they did, they didn't. It's kinda hard to advance a meaningful agenda when being subjected to the acid ink in the runaway veto pen.
I think it's because he's up in years
I also get the same impression, but to be realistic one must consider that she may become President if something were to happen to him.
what, are you now 2 years old?
i just have to roll my eyes sometimes.
Well, a few years ago when we had that...
stocket market tank (all though it did not last all that long) was enough for me...took my 401K money (not a huge amount, but I need it to be there) and put it in traditional IRA's that in federally insured bank. I am not young enough to let it build back up with stock market ups and downs. Younger folks a lot more years in the work force can wait for it to build back up (and it always has), but I can't take the risk.
I don't think small private banks are at risk.
It was much worse than this when Carter was in the White House and we managed to get through that...this too shall pass. A little saying I once heard seems to sum it up...."When one door closes, another opens, but it is he11 in the hallway for awhile." :)
The only way we'd get another 8 years is
if the dems are still in control against a pub president.
I heard the above comment in either an ad or in the debate itself and I almost flipped. You don't hear much about it yet, but it will come out sooner or later (and hopefully sooner).
Yes in in the last two years
the econmy took a dive. Gas prices rose and made the price of everything soar. That is what you get under democratic leadership.
I did years ago n/m
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That's over three years old......you just now
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For 2 years out of 8
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I'm sure you will be for the next 4 years
all the way to the bank with other people's hard earned money...
maybe in 100 years
Our kids will tell stories about us working six days a week, all hours of the day and night to stay at home with them. About how we had no health insurance, but somehow we managed to pay those hospital bills. How the mortgage broker tried to get us to refinance one more time, but we saw through the scam. How did we ever make a car payment for 5 years without going crazy? How we competed with workers in a virtual world and still managed to out produce them. Maybe they will think that we were pretty tough too. I think we are!
Just the first of many to come in the next 4 years....
sorry, I have to raise taxes; sorry, I have to continue the war in Iraq; sorry, I can't provide healthcare for everyone; sorry, I have to change the constitution; sorry, I can't keep any of the promises I made while campaigning; sorry, I have no experience dealing with terrorists, sorry, I fooled you into voting for me.
GP, my DH and I have been saying this for years. sm
We have long been advocates of sending the illegals back, closing our borders, cut the pork, etc. I am so glad there are others out there. This is going to my sens and reps. Especially as DH gave them all an earful yesterday. We need everybody out there to send this along.
I don't have 10-20 years. I have 4
unless I want to work until I'm 70 or 80. What kind of mind will i have then? Will I be able to figure out what a doc is saying?
I'll probably be one of those homeless people in another 10 years unless they straighten out all the problems. I certainly will not be able afford the taxes we pay on our property, even though it's free and clear of a mortgage. At tha rate they expect taxes to rise, I'll be out on the streets.
The O will not be able to stop it. There's too many factors changing the economy. I'm just hoping things wil l straighten out, but I no longer have any faith in our government, no matter who runs the country. The so-called respresentaves are only out for themselves in the past few years and it doesn't matter who's in charge.
Write your congressmen or senators and what do you get? A "canned" letter that they will take your suggestions "under consideration" and "are doing whatever they can to fix the situation". I'm tired of it. It's the same old, same old.
O has reneged on some of his promises already. He spoke in all those other countries when he was running for prez (and isn't there a law against going to a foreign country to make promises(?) if he becomes president? He smoothed over so many countires that they thought they were finally going to get a prez that would straighten out the U.S. and all of a sudden, he is for Israel and against the Muslin terrorists communities. "Scuse me, butl lying to other ountries doesm't cut it.
I can only hope that O will keep some of his other promises bvut I don't see how he can with the economy the way it is at this pointl So all those people who voted for O with the hope of change (remember those who stated they would not have to worry about their mortgage, etc.), it ain't gonna happen.
O is a smooth talker and I almost fell for his ideas, but when I started to really think about it, there's no way he can accomplish all he plans to do, even in 8 yeras.
Well, I'll get off my soap box now. These opinions are mine and mine alone. You may not agree with my thoughts, but there's no reason to bash me for my honest opinion. 
Yes, I am better off than I was 8 years ago...(sm)
However, since two years ago and the advent of the democratic congress, I am a tad worse....
but still better than the Clinton years.
Bracing for getting even worse under the O.
It's a fact that the economy always downturns under a democratic congress....double whammy with a democrat in the white house, too.....oh joy, what a ride we're all in for.
Yes, I am better off than I was 8 years ago...(sm)
However, since two years ago and the democratic majority in congress, I am a bit worse, down 20% in earnings.
But still much, much better than the Clinton years.
Bracing for getting even worse under Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Franks, and that whole lot.
It's a fact of economics, that there is always a downturn under a democratic congress....double whammy with a democrat in the white house, too.....oh joy, what a ride we're all in for.
Where were you for the first 6 years
Perhaps you were the one on another planet. Their failures led to the Dems getting control of Congress in the first place.
he's 10 years old
you total doofus. Make him a villain. Guess Art Linkletter was an enabler.
Yes, but how many years did it take?
According to the chart you posted, it took 5 years for it to take effect. People don't have 5 years. They are drowning now.
Some of the stimulus package plans have government programs in that supposedly are to be taken over by the states after 3 years. How can the states absorb these $$ when they're drowning already?
Now, this morning, I heard on the news that they may be nationalizing some banks and, no, it wasn't Fox. I also saw a clip where O was being interviewed by Tim Russert in 1996 and O stated he was NOT going to run for president in 2008. He was elected as a Senator of Illinois and that was going to be his job. He flipped pretty quick, didn't he?
Throughout the years...
I've seen several documentaries on TV about this kind of behavior in Mexico. The kidnappings and murderings have been going on for quite some time really. However, they are getting much worse. Government is losing to the drug cartel and the country is about to go bankrupt. I would seriously warn anyone considering going to Mexico. This isn't all fun and games. This isn't the time for "that couldn't possibly happen to me" attitudes. This is serious stuff. Stay the heck out of Mexico!
Well he was 8 years old.......
11 years ago before there was so much talk about all of this. When I was 8 years old I had a little boyfriend that I would hold hands with, etc. Well, I'm not sure I could call it an "attraction" but I knew I wanted a boyfriend, not a girlfriend. He knew he wanted a boyfriend even at that young age. He is 19 now.
Several years ago
my dad said to dig a canal across the US/Mexico border and fill it with allegators. LMAO!
Maybe I should have said 35 to 40 years ago...
... i.e. at the height of the hippie "free love" era. I know I certainly heard it a LOT from some of the people around me; although I wonder now that I am old and cynical whether the girls blew off marriage as a "piece of paper" 'cause the guys persuaded them that a piece of paper wasn't necessary to prove their love, thus neatly paving the way to duck out of the relationship later, at will, bypassing those pesky legal entanglements....
And for what it's worth, Donny Osmond never did float my boat; by the time he came along I had long since outgrown his apparent demographic.
More like he's had it done to him for years.
EX: "I hope Obama fails."
Taken completely out of context of what he actually said, but continues to be the main bashing point.
When? Only these four years, maybe, when he was
in Jakarta, at the age of 7 to 11, attending a CATHOLIC school!
You do your homework, I did mine!
these 8 (eight) years over!...nm
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Go back 5 years...
Change Bush to Clinton...see a similarity.
We can't wait a few years. Someone needs to......sm
do something to get these parasites out of the White House now.
yes.......I've been following this for years......
So many people in this country don't have a clue what freebies are being handed out. I have seen in my own work doctors questioning how a person who has been in this country for over 30 years, can't speak English at all, and manage to get SSI even. They bring an INTERPRETOR with them when asked questions and then beat around the bush when asked what jobs they have held down, while they sit in the doctor's office complaining they can't work because of disabilities. Yea right!!!! The doctor knows they are here illegally but what can he/she do?
When you look at the gangs in Los Angeles alone, 80 thousand plus, all Latino gangs, illegal from other countries, Mexico, El Salvador, etc., walking the streets, terrorizing the neighborhoods, and we pay for more officers to patrol the streets and get this, they have to ask permission from these thugs to "document" their tattooes, as each tattoo has some gang meaning. 80,000 plus gangs in one city alone. WHat happens when you have these many illegals running the show in a city, you have chaos and fear, the same thing they are doing on the border towns in the U.S., terrorizing citizens, running the show, and we sit around worrying about their rights? What rights? They have no rights? If we would stop quivering like a bunch of babies, go out and round them up like the jackasses they are, and find a way to get rid of them. If their countries won't take them back, and why would they want them either, why should we house and feed their sorry butts. I live in the deep south and we are hearing of them actually branching out their gangs to come into the south because they believe people in the south are dumb and slow and they can infiltrate the area to do their drug dealing and go undetected. I have news for them.....they haven't been on the interstate near our town lately. DEA sits all over the place waiting to stop truckers carrying illegals as well as the drugs they carry and they have already stopped major drug trafficking in this area. It sickens me. I have no pity for people who have no care for human life, only greed of money any way they can get it. They laugh at us....we open up a major thoroughfare from Mexico into the US for truckers and don't think they will use this as a green flag for illegal trafficking of all kinds? We are to blame for not putting an end to it, however that may need to be.
I am not a Republican....but two years is...
plenty of time for the Democrat majority to have done SOMETHING...and they have done nothing...including taking their vacation instead of voting on an energy bill and they claim to care about gas prices. Pardon me if I doubt their sincerity.
I am not a Democrat either. But I know Barack Obama is as much or more invested in Europe as he is in the US, and that does not give me a warm and fuzzy. His Chicago connections, his voting record, his writings, his wife's writings, his pastor, his friends...all of those things send up huge red flags to me. What he is saying now is not anything like what his history and life have been to this point. So I don't trust him. He is way left of Clinton...most liberal voting record in the senate.
McCain has butted heads with Bush several times over the years...he is not a repeat of Bush. All one has to do is look at his record, if one is so inclined. He is not my favorite either; I have some issues with him as well. However, I know he would protect this country and I am not so sure Obama would.
The best thing I can say about George W. Bush is thank God he was President when we were attacked on 9-11, and not Kerry!
This man spent 5 years of sm
his life in the Hanoi Hilton as a prisoner and he didn't walk away from serving his country? Now he is worth waiting in line for. Rock stars come and go. Patriots are here to stay.
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