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• The United States is a country in decline. - Our best days are well behind us.
  • You agree with Ahmadinejad. Interesting. nm - sam
    • If he believes that, then YUP.... his is - Bush's speech about bailing out the -sm
  • Hillary came up with a viable plan days ago, sm - nm
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      • tell the Hollywood crowd that...they always promise to leave, and never go....nm - ..
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          • nah, doesn't work...they're still here, and I barely watch anything that's...sm - nope
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  • Nah, just a big bump in the road. sm - nm
    • Our downward slide started 'way before the 90's. - Try the 60's. One big slippery slope.
    • The myth of the Clinton surplus - been disproved -sm - By the US Treasury
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is all gah-gah over Obama.  Listen to what Jon Voight had to say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXKOotf3B2k

Spent most of my adult life in Texas but never lost my Arkie accent.  We go to NE OK all the time and they don't sound any different than I do.......now my husband was born and raised in Chicago but he's lost some of that accent. LOL  He loves pinto beans, CFS and mashed taters and white gravy.  He better, I cook it.

That "soda" thing just drives me nuts too.  Hubby has learned that "coke" is any soft drink..even his Dr. Pepper.  When people want a soda I always wonder why they would want to drink Arm & Hammer!!

My husband mentioned something about part of the stimulus going to Hollywood.  Can anybody enlighten me on this?  Is this really going to help?  Call me clueless, but I don't get how all this money being given to these corporations is helping.  Makes me a little  in the stomache actually.

has not much to say.  We waited.  We saw.  None of this surprises anybody who watched anything other than CBS, NBC and ABC during the campaign. 

And remember, Clinton was impeached, but remained in office.  Throwing the bum out is a separate step after impeachment. 

of money from the government.  That is just wrong.  Of all people that deserve money.....it wouldn't be hollywood!

Another group I've heard complain are athletes.  They are complaining because sales of tickets are down.  Well.....I'm sorry but I think it is absolutely ridiculous that these athletes make as much as they do anyway.....maybe if they would take a pay cut and lower the ticket prices.....maybe more people could afford to go to games. 

I live in Indiana and I am a Colts fan but I am thoroughly ticked that they threatened to leave Indiana unless we built them a new stadium.  We built them a new stadium at the expense of the taxpayers and the Colts have sucked major butt since then.  I would have told them to pack up and leave and not let the door hit them in the butt on the way out.  They make WAY too much money to sit around and make demands like that.  They could have easily built their own dang stadium....jerks.  Just think about all those local people whose property taxes skyrocketed because the colts demanded a new stadium.  I wonder how many people in the Indianapolis area lost their homes because they couldn't afford their property tax?  Makes me sick. 

And why in the world are the Army and the Air Force, etc. sponsoring race cars?  They are pretty much taking taxpayer money to pay to sponsor vehicles that costs a butt load of money.  That really chaps my ars too.  ARGH!

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/11/12/obama_softens_ban_on_hiring_lobbyists/

So much for the change Obama promised to bring.  Sounds to me like it is the same old political bullcrap of the rules not applying to certain people.  Why bother saying stuff when you know you can't or won't do it?

But then again, you've repeatedly proven your fondness for the truth, so I think it's safe to say that you're not going anywhere.  Out of all your posts, though, this one was just too precious to ignore.

As far as lumping me in the same category as GT and Observer, pardon me while I get all misty-eyed because this is probably the nicest thing you've ever said to me.  By telling me that, you're telling me that I'm a person who sees things clearly and realistically.  You're telling me that I have compassion for people who are in dire need of compassion these days.  You're telling me that I don't worship a false idol like you do.  You're telling me that I can see through the soulless, heartless, brainless moron whose boots you would gladly lick as you kneel to worship him.  You're telling me that I support our troops because I value their lives and only feel their lives should be placed in jeopardy when absolutely necessary to defend this country and not for a war borne out of lies and deceit by a president who most likely packed away his plans to attack Iraq in the box marked Personal and brought them with him when he relocated to the White House.  You're telling me that I have the insight, wisdom and intelligence to recognize when I'm being lied to and that I have the courage to vocally object to it, rather than make excuses for a man who only truly cares about rich people. 

Best of all, you're lumping me with two other posters whose views I thoroughly respect and am always eager to read, people with brains and consciences and hearts. 

So right when I become all misty-eyed at the wonderful compliment you've paid me, you say you're going to leave.

I suppose I can take solace in knowing that it's just another of your many, many lies, that you're probably just one of the many voices in MT's head, and I hope she doesn't kill you when she finds out you've complimented me, although I thoroughly understand the mounting panic and frustration those of your ilk must be feeling.

I hope you have a delightful evening, and once again, thank you so much for the wonderful compliment. 

These press conferences are to let everyone know who's going to be in his cabinet and to reiterate that he had no contact with Blago. Why does he keep saying this? He supposedly is going to release documents "next week" that will prove it. So, I will wait until next week.

I just read an article by Morton Kondracke in the local newspaper where his health plan cost may top $3 TRILLION. That's almost as bad as the bailout plus. Where does he think this money is going to come from? THAT's the question I want answered.

All his other lofty promises, too. All will cost money. Who's going to pay?  He can't tax the businesses as they are the key to jobs and, if he does that, the jobs will be gone. He can't tax the working people because, if he does that, he's backing out on his promise plus the working people can't take any more taxes.

With unemployment at such high rates and more every day, how long do you think unemployment benefits will last? Already Michigan and another state have 0 balances in their unemployment benefit chest. The governor of PA (Rendell) stated he only has enough employment benefits in the coffer to last 6 months IF there are no more people opening a claim. Without people working, they aren't paying taxes. Without tax money, the government can't provide benefits. Even SS is at risk to run out before the stated time mentioned a year or 2 ago.

So tell me, will he wave a magic wand and the money will appear? Probably, which will lower our dollar purchasing power and put us more into debt.

It's time for people to wake up. The depression is here. The reason the O read about FDR is to try and figure out what to do, but FDR didn't have a crisis such as this. This is above and beyond anything that ever happened. 

Michelle One

That little campaign platform that he would cut our taxes (middle income) when elected.  Within days after being elected he raised our taxes to the highest ever in record history.

Also, according the to U.S. Treasury website that tracks the national debt, there was never a surplus because the debt rose every year.  I know a lot of people don't like to hear that, but that is just the facts in black and white

During Clinton the National Debt was:

As you can clearly see, in no year did the national debt go down, nor did Clinton leave President Bush with a budget surplus that he subsequently turned into a deficit.  Its true the budget was "almost" balanced in 2000, but it never reached zero, let alone a positive number.  Also, the growing deficit started in the Clinton budget, not the first year of the Bush admin.

To understand what happened requires understanding two concepts of what makes up the national debt.  Therefore I will attach a link that explains this.

I do know a lot of people really liked Bill Clinton as a President.  No doubt about that.  He had charisma and was very mesmerizing to listen to him speak, but you just can't toss out facts.

http://www.letxa.com/articles/16

P.S., this article states you can access the US Treasury website to see for yourself.

By Tim Reid, The Times of London

Barack Obama's senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week's election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harboring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve.

The sudden financial crisis and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of "hope" and "change" are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy.

One senior adviser told The Times that the first few weeks of the transition, immediately after the election, were critical, "so there's not a vast mood swing from exhilaration and euphoria to despair."

The aide said that Obama himself was the first to realize that expectations risked being inflated.

Obama Not Closing Door on Possible Health Tax

Referring to proposals to tax workers who get expensive insurance policies, Obama, who campaigned against the tax last year, said, "I don't want to prejudge what they're doing."

The unions are going to flip over that one...taxing of benefits.  Benefits are the backbones of unions and their power over their members.  Has it finally sunk in people...you cannot believe a word this man says.  He lies as easily as the rest of us breathe.  And the amazing thing is....it works for him.  Blinded by the obamalight.  lol.

Surely this information is incorrect.

The most cringe-worthy political moment of the day, so far, came when Sen. John McCain called out for his new buddy Joe the Plumber to stand up at a rally in Ohio, only to be greeted with confused silence. Joe the Plumber wasn't there.

But that rally featured another embarrassing moment, one that illustrates a far more troubling dynamic for the Republican ticket. The McCain campaign actually had to bus in school kids from the surrounding area in order to fill the event. As reported by MSNBC:

A local school district official confirmed after the event that of the 6,000 people estimated by the fire marshal to be in attendance this morning, more than 4,000 were bused in from schools in the area. The entire 2,500-student Defiance School District was in attendance, the official said, in addition to at least three other schools from neighboring districts, one of which sent 14 buses.

This happened -- as if a reminder were needed -- less than a week out from the election, when the heat of the campaign should be drawing record crowds.