really, and you are voting for obama? then he is going to take...

from you too. DH and I aren't voting for him because of the taxes he is raising on the 250K an up. You should be worried too if your income is in that range like ours.

• Let us for a minute consider this - Chele
  • Maybe the child who got the A cheated or - attends a school where that child's parents
  • Does anyone on this board - make over 250K????
    • It's called "trickle down taxes"....all of Obama's plans....sm - sm
      • Big assumption - Dee
      • Trickle down economics - gourdpainter
        • Just wait and watch...Should the O get into office...sm - sm
          • Well, goshdangit s/m - gourdpainter
            • I don't know that I can convince you...sm - sm
              • Well, upon this we can agree s/m - gourdpainter
      • ...and don't forget all the people that those businesess....sm - sm
        • I agree. As a business owner now, if - sm
        • Propaganda goes on. n/m - gourdpainter
          • It's not propaganda. I know one small business owner...sm - sm
            • Someone called ME dense s/m - gourdpainter
          • You can be very dense sometimes...nm - are you sure you're not a liberal?
            • I am probably 1/2 liberal, 1/2 conservative - gourdpainter
              • I felt that way too, - Dee
    • May I compliment you on your grasp of the issues s/m - gourdpainter
      • Thanks - Dee
  • Back in the 50s that was called - gourdpainter
    • Obama will be doing exactly what you say here....sm - sm
      • You know well I was not talking about Joe the NON-plumber! - gourdpainter
  • isn't democracy grand? - newswede
  • Thank you, I alluded to the same thing in an earlier post... - voteinde
  • Just saw this on TV and it's thanks to Bush sm - Mike W
    • "Stop hating and pay attention" - Chele
      • I say they are going to other countries because --- - Amanda
      • Thought you were keeping a tally... nm - Adeline
        • ? - nm
  • What a ridiculous analogy! - Sheesh
    • I think it is a perfect analogy. - Chele
    • That was actually a very good analogy - sbMT
      • Why do you make such little money? - Are you a transcriptionist?
        • A couple of reasons - sbMT
          • Believe me, you may be working your butts off.. - voteinde
            • Ever consider you and your lifestyle is just 1 or 2 layoffs away from poverty? - gourdpainter
              • My MT pay is certainly not the main income.... - voteinde
          • Your husband should tell Dad . . - sm
            • He makes $10 an hour - sbMT
        • It does not sound like someone who is working therir butt off to me. nm - sorry
          • Why the personal attacks? - sm
            • Why is fairness in taxation considered a handout? This isn't welfare... it's paying the right - Barlyston
              • People who make more - sm
                • You're wrong - Barlyston
                • Question - sw
            • It is very hard to believe this senario when...sm - sorry
              • We both just graduated this year - sbMT
              • She sounds like a kid out of school, maybe not even 20 yrs old, unskilled nm - Adeline
                • That "unskilled" person could have been my - voteinde
                  • He isn't unskilled anymore then. Why do you want to argue about EVERYTHING? SM - YOU ARE SO MISERABLE
                    • Wow, you sound pretty miserable. I am not arguing about anything... - voteinde
                  • Now I know how the candidates feel! - sbMT
                    • LOL! - Chele
                • For someone who wants to - sm
                  • Who was rude? I just said she sounds young. You are just mad cuz Obama is winning - Adeline
                    • Obviously one of the coat tail riders... - voteinde
                      • I'm pretty sure I make more than you... I just want things fair. nm - Adeline
                        • really, and you are voting for obama? then he is going to take... - voteinde
                          • Yes I make more and I will vote Obama because sm - Adeline
                            • Well, I for one don't know anyone who is worse off now than - voteinde
                          • what an attitude.... - sw
                    • Polls mean nothing. Wait till election day, to see who wins. - .
                      • It's going to be a landslide, and it will be unprecedented - Barlyston
                        • CNN doesn't know everything....and - Cher
                        • I don't believe everything the media tells me to... - I'm waiting for election day for the winner.
                • Close, 22 in December - sbMT
                  • I think you are a little confused sm - Barlyston
                  • Wow you were married that young! - sm
                    • We will be married 2 years in March - sbMT
                      • I got married when I was 20 years old - Chele
            • because she states if people - sm
              • Well.....if you are correct in - sm
              • Working your butt off - sbMT
      • Very well said! - Chele
        • This is how I feel.....sm - Cher

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Barack Obama addresses issues that mean the most to me.  Simple as that.  His wife seems to be a caring mother and caring human being in general who is intelligent and well educated.  I think those are great qualities for a first lady.

Obama inspires me with his speeches.  He reminds me of JFK in that way.  He won't fly on private jets because his vote has not been purchased by any large corporations, and he does not want to give that appearance.  In other words, I do not think he has been corrupted by money and greed, and in Washington that says a lot!!  When I look at the big picture he is my #1 choice.  Go Obama.   Sorry, couldn't resist the cheerleader! :)

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Obama is change you can believe in until you have to take it to the bank.

Our jobs have been offshored until now because of greed.  Under Obama and his taxation of small businesses, they will be offshored not because of greed but because of survival.  

You could make a difference for our country by not voting for Obama, but instead, if you vote for him, you are selling out to deception.  You are embracing a socialist, a communist, a Marxist, a liar, a cheat, and someone who legally cannot run as President of the U.S., much less the Illinois senate.  But, you make your choice.  You believe the consumate liar and his lies who sat for 20 years under the teachings of a black racist preacher filled with hatred for the U.S., whose association with Bill Ayers is recent and documented down to the fact that Ayers himself wrote Obama's best-selling book (best-selling in the eyes of far left liberals that is), who is a documented member of the socialist party, whose friends and close allies are extremists who not only bomb innocent people and are unrepenetent but who intend to eliminate (kill) 25 million Americans who they cannot "re-educate" in communist ideaology (gosh dog it, those dreadful capitalists), who refuses to hand over a certified copy of his birth certificate and educational records (my goodness, don't you have to provide your birth certificate to any number of entities who want to know if you are legal, i.e., social security, DMVs, etc., and your educational records would show if you had received aid as a foreigner and in 1963 would have shown you were a negro instead of an African-American which Obama's falsified record shows, please speck up on history), and who thinks Joe the Plumber is so stupid not to realize that if he wants to achieve the American dream, he is going to achieve it only if he lets Obama take what he makes to give to those WHO WILL NOT WORK.  I'd like to see you, liberals, give a share of your 7.5 cpl to those who don't work as hard as you, but then with Obama, that's what you will have to do.  Don't be fooled by his rhetoric that only those making over $250,00 will be taxed.  We will all be taxed, and there will be no incentive to work for any of us because we will all have to give up a piece of our pie so those who do not work can have a piece of our pie.

Here is the dividing line, folks.  We are at a crossroads in our history.  The Lord Jesus puts it this way, "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction; and there are many who go in by it."

Choose which gate you enter, the wide or the narrow.  It not only determines your eternal destination, but it determines the destination of this country.  If anyone here calls themself a Christian and can vote for Osambo, I daresay you are a liar and cheat just as he.  One cannot be a Christian and vote for a party and a political candidate who is in total rebellion to God's Word.  That is a fact, and if you think any differently, then you, too, like the Obamanation, call God a liar.  May He have mercy upon your soul.  As He makes the rain fall on the just and the unjust because He is no respector of persons, we will all suffer as this country is destroyed and our Constitution that guarantees our freedoms is trampled just as Bill Ayers is pictured standing upon our flag in total disrespect, and we will thank you liberals that we are all in bondage, reduced to third world status, just as the Israelites were in Egypt.  Only Obama ain't no Moses but a Muslim and has no favor with God, and there will be no one to lead us to the Promised Land coming from the Democratic party. 

Please direct me to where in the Constitution that it says that voting is a RIGHT?  It is not a right.  We have a right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness!!

but I tend agree with you.  I think it is sad race still matters all these years later, rather depressing really.  You can keep your nose clean, do all of the right things according to society's standards and color still matters.  Why?  Who cares about color what about his policies? Shouldn't they matter more?

blessings,

Small polling place, only 4 machines, 1 of which was already belly up and I was just 15th in line.  Anyway, vote is in, and I didn't vote a straight party one button.  I punched each one separately...I wanted to savor the moment!  :-)

I have enjoyed the debate and I for one am glad there are so many in our profession engaged in the process and concerned for the country, no matter which side you fall on.  So, hats off to you, and may the best man and woman win! :-)

you should be ashamed for posting such a hateful insulting post

Sam:  Would you have posted this is McCain had won??

Go Ron Paul!

Would love to see a true statesman like Ron Paul be President of our country.

that your vote is based on the dislike of an anonymous poster on a tiny little chat board, it was not worth much anyway.

From the beginning, I've always known I would not vote for Obama.  His plans will not work.  He will destroy small businesses with his taxes causing loss of jobs.  His plans of taking from the rich to give to the poor will only enable the low-life scum we have in this country to remain lazy and worthless.  His associations with certain individuals and his membership for 20 years to a church designed on black power and the hate of whites........I cannot trust this man to be the commander and chief.  I do not agree with his plans for healthcare.  I do not agree with his extremist view point on abortion.  I do not condone gay marriage.  I cannot under good conscience vote for Barack Obama.  If we elect Barack Obama to be the president, we will sorely regret it. 

So bash me as you will.  Obviously, from posts below, this is a support Obama political board and should anyone differ......OMG....you should be thrown off of the board.  You all have been sucked into this mainstream media love affair with a man that we cannot trust, a man who doesn't have the experience, and a man who promises change that he cannot bring.  The one thing I can agree with Obama is this.....his campaign does give me hope.....it gives me hope that enough people get their heads out of their butts and John McCain wins this election and becomes the next President of the United States of America!!!! 

Go McCain & Palin!!!! 

Since everyone is at least a bit familiar with John McCain’s record when it comes to strolling through a market in Baghdad with hundreds of his closest guards, or how he wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years (except when he flip flops on that).

But not that many really, truly know just how horrific his voting record is when it comes to the troops.  And it is pretty consistent – whether it is for armor and equipment, for veteran’s health care, for adequate troop rest or anything that actually, you know, supports our troops.

This is chock full of links to the roll call votes, and the roll call votes have links to the actual underlying bills and amendments.  I present this so that there is support and things that can be rattled off when saying that McCain is not a friend of the military.  Feel free to use it as you want, but this can be tied into the "Double Talk Express".  But here is a very quick statement - John McCain skipped close to a dozen votes on Iraq, and on at least another 10 occasions, he voted against arming and equipping the troops, providing adequate rest for the troops between deployments and for health care or other benefits for veterans.

In mid 2007, Senator Reid noted that McCain missed 10 of the past 14 votes on Iraq.  However, here is a summary of a dozen votes (two that he missed and ten that he voted against) with respect to Iraq, funding for veterans or for troops, including equipment and armor.  I have also included other snippets related to the time period when the vote occurred.

September 2007: McCain voted against the Webb amendment calling for adequate troop rest between deployments.  At the time, nearly 65% of people polled in a CNN poll indicted that "things are going either moderately badly or very badly in Iraq.

July 2007:  McCain voted against a plan to drawdown troop levels in Iraq.  At the time, an ABC poll found that 63% thought the invasion was not worth it, and a CBS News poll found that 72% of respondents wanted troops out within 2 years.

March 2007: McCain was too busy to vote on a bill that would require the start of a drawdown in troop levels within 120 days with a goal of withdrawing nearly all combat troops within one year.  Around this time, an NBC News poll found that 55% of respondents indicated that the US goal of achieving victory in Iraq is not possible.  This number has not moved significantly since then.

February 2007:  For such a strong supporter of the escalation, McCain didn’t even bother to show up and vote against a resolution condemning it.  However, at the time a CNN poll found that only 16% of respondents wanted to send more troops to Iraq (that number has since declined to around 10%), while 60% said that some or all should be withdrawn.  This number has since gone up to around 70%.

June 2006:  McCain voted against a resolution that Bush start withdrawing troops but with no timeline to do so.

May 2006:  McCain voted against an amendment that would provide $20 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for health care facilities.

April 2006:  McCain was one of only 13 Senators to vote against $430,000,000 for the Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans.

March 2006:  McCain voted against increasing Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in FY 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes.

March 2004:  McCain once again voted for abusive tax loopholes over veterans when he voted against creating a reserve fund to allow for an increase in Veterans' medical care by $1.8 billion by eliminating abusive tax loopholes.  Jeez, McCain really loves those tax loopholes for corporations, since he voted for them over our veterans' needs.

October 2003:  McCain voted to table an amendment by Senator Dodd that called for an additional $322,000,000 for safety equipment for United States forces in Iraq and to reduce the amount provided for reconstruction in Iraq by $322,000,000.

April 2003:  McCain urged other Senate members to table a vote (which never passed) to provide more than $1 billion for National Guard and Reserve equipment in Iraq related to a shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, and tactical vests.

August 2001:  McCain voted against increasing the amount available for medical care for veterans by $650,000,000.  To his credit, he also voted against the 2001 Bush tax cuts, which he now supports making permanent, despite the dire financial condition this country is in, and despite the fact that he indicated in 2001 that these tax cuts unfairly benefited the very wealthy at the expense of the middle class.

So there it is.  John McCain is yet another republican former military veteran who likes to talk a big game when it comes to having the support of the military.  Yet, time and time again, he has gone out of his way to vote against the needs of those who are serving in our military.  If he can’t even see his way to actually doing what the troops want, or what the veterans need, and he doesn’t have the support of veterans, then how can he be a credible commander in chief?

you will need to keep things like OBAMA and OSAMA straight.  The political system was based on the assumption that voters would know the difference between a tall black man running for president and a tall man in a sheet running for cover.  Study up.  Only a few more weeks . . . I'm betting you can do it.