quagmire
Posted By: va on 2005-06-29
In Reply to: Tell me how many people have died - American Girl
quagmire, i.e., something we cannot get out of, i.e., Iraq. We went on false reasons and were lied to that it would be quick and our soldiers would be liberators met in the streets by dancing happy Iraqi's..sure, sure. I personally never believed Bush from the start, have never voted for him. I knew from the beginning this war was wrong. The inspections would have worked. Bush had his mind set on invading Iraq from the beginning, so did Cheney. Quagmire is what is happening right now. If we pull out there will be a civil war and if we stay many more will die and our budget will continue to increase, with the federal govt cutting back on money it sends to the states. So, all way around it is us, the people, who are suffering. We, the taxpayers, will feel the effects of his war for years to come. What happens when there are no more that want to join the military? Most certainly a draft. Bush says no draft, ha, I believe that like I believe anything else that comes out of his mouth. It is a no win situation. Just who the heck did American think it was, invading another country anyway. It amazes me the attitude this administration has. We have alienated the world. China is more respected and liked by the majority of the world than America.
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The Iraq war is a quagmire. I was in high school during the ending of Vietnam and believe me it was the same thing, we were losing then, we are losing now and if we pull out, there will be civil war. In Vietnam if we pulled out communism would take over, which it did anyway. Bush did lie. Where are the WMD? Where are the Iraqi's dancing in the streets and giving our soldiers flowers? Iraq was a broken down country from 12 years of sanctions. There are documents from a meeting with Cheney and Wolfowitz and others in the administration for planning this war. They fixed the *evidence* so Bush could stand up in front of America and scare the American people. The Downing Street Memos also document Bush's deceit. He lied about how much it would cost for this war, he lied about how much the tax cuts would cost this country, he lied about how much the prescription drug plan would cost this country and he continues to lie stating Iraq is getting better when even the military generals state it isnt getting better. He says we are safer due to this war, we are not safer. We have created a terrorist state, Iraq, and this will continue for decades to come. The minute we kill a terrorist, his children will rise up and attack back. There is so much evidence against Bush about this war that in other parts of the world that follow the Geneva Convention and the World Tribunal, they are calling Bush and Cheney war criminals. What Bush did was illegal, you cannot just invade a soverign country who is not a threat to you. For pete sake, if that is the way it is, well, gee, I think maybe one day my neighbor might shoot me, so let me go shoot him first..Crazy thinking..There have even been psychiatrists that have written articles about Bush and state he has classic symptoms of being a sociopath.
iraq is a quagmire
There is no doubt Saddam was a tyrant and feared but the people had jobs, electricity, clean water, security and safety in the streets..Sure you had to adhere to Saddam's ideas and frame work for his country but if you did adhere to that, you were living an okay life..We have not given them what we said we would..They now with this new constitution will be worse off than before we invaded..It is linked to Iran, takes away womens rights, alienates parts of their society..and right now there is no security in the streets, electricity for a few hours a week, water they bathe and drink is water in the streets..We should never have invaded a country to try to impose our beliefs on them..you cant do that..changes have to come from within a country..and then once we invaded, we had no real idea how to establish everything our govt said it was going to..Iraq is a lost cause..My heart breaks, an ancient country that we have destroyed..If we stay, more lives, both ours and theirs, will be lost, if we leave a civil war will erupt..there is just no good decision on Iraq.
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