please note...the title line of the previous post were....
Posted By: sam on 2008-08-31
In Reply to: in other words seeing someone as all bad or all good is not an indicator of high intelligence. Bewa - sam
sim's words, not mine. Refer to her/his post.
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The democrats voted over 90% with their own party just as McCain did with his (Bush). Go to factcheck.org.
Imbicilic? That's juvenile. Just because you don't agree and are a hot-headed Obama follower doesn't mean you have the right to call my posts imbicilic. I have never once degraded my own character by calling an Obama supporter an imbicile. Grow up.
click on the link previous post
It's alive, it's alive..Why, Dr. Frankenstein, it's alive!
While the "poo" is flying, let's note I did not make my post about whether...sm
I agreed with the stimulus package, because if you read further back on this board, I have been stating my opposition clearly for weeks, and just what I have problems with! This post was about a thinly-veiled, very inflammatory, crude, demeaning, hurtful "comic," and not just for the President, many African-Americans were hurt by this, and wrong is wrong, I am keeping my post specifically to this one point, I am sick of "pubs" or anyone else clouding issues by dragging other irrelevant issues in. The Post really demeaned themselves by publishing this, and they know it!!
The last line of your post is....
So, the "God is telling me I need to fight for all unborn fetuses" is a religious issue and should be there. Tired of seeing line after line after line of religious opinions on the political board.
You also said this: If your trying to make an argument with the "I'm fighting for all the unborn fetus'" and God is telling you this, blah, blah, blah, that's all great but it should be on the "Faith" board.
I never said anything remotely like that. To suggest I did is not true. TO use your own words, I take offense to someone who makes judgments about me without knowing me. You can make judgments about me, but no way should I make any about you?
Generally when something is not true it is a lie. I did not directly call you a liar. However, I apologize for any inference if there was any. How's this? What you said is not true. I never said God told me to do anything. I never said religion was my motivator. You made assumptions about me and you don't know me.
It is not hard to read posts on abortion at all, in caps or not. Just don't click to open it.
You and the others have made your point ad nauseam about how tired you are of it. I am tired of being told what I can post and what I can't, just as tired as you are of seeing abortion threads. And none of the threads would be near as long as they are if "they" ( I won't include you since you say you are not one of them) didn't pile on and bash me. It would just beone lone post. And believe me, as tired as you are of seeing abortion posts I am tired of the endless bashing that goes with them.
Yes, I said if it chaps you so be it, and it obviously does. You are basically saying the same thing to me: stop the abortion posts or take them somewhere else, and if it chaps you, so be it. Okay for you, not okay for me.
And to use your words..enough has been said about it and it is getting old.
gt's post may have been a joke; howver, her subject line sm
makes it something she encourages. The assassination of the President. She has come close to saying it before. This time, there is no doubt. Save the keystrokes psychoanalyzing me. I won't stick around to see it.
In the last sentence of her post she retracts what she said in her subject line, lol!..nm
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This post part of which I have copied from the conservative board is over the line
Well, gotta tell ya all..I have tried to take the conservative posts and laugh about them..but, however, being a descendant of the Holocaust, having lost great-great family members and still having a beloved friend who was a survivor, with tattoos on her arms and memories to tell all...I TOTALLY STRIKE OUT AT THIS POST..CALLING ME A NAZI IS THE MOST WORSE THING ANYONE COULD CALL ME..AND IM AM MOST DEFINITELY GOING TO CONTACT THE MONITOR AND ADMINISTRATOR..THIS IS UNCALLED FOR..THIS ATTACK IS IGNORANT..These ignorant people throw around genocide and nazi and THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE HECK THEY ARE EVEN POSTING ABOUT..
**At least on these boards the two-initialed Nazi is allowed get away with her genocide of anything conservative, but that's not helping the post count on the board at all.**
last line of Matthews piece cut off in error. 1 line sm
complained in a letter to his boss that Matthews had shown a pattern of sexism.
Actually, I answered your posts line by line
about not "allowing" you to have an opinion. Those are your words, not mine. This is a good example of how this discussion has escalated from a simple link to this utter squashed bug nonsense. Why are you not able to simply debate the original issue at hand...the Eric Holder appointment? Too much of an intellectual challenge when somebody presents a THIRD-PARTY alternative viewpoint? You are the one who mentioned losing sleep and I remarked that it was probably unnecessary since you were blowing something out of proportion....something you have been doing all afternoon. You takes things WAY too personally.
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semeni4 semeni4 is a cool boy!! <a href=http://curio-cabinet.mctry.com> Curio cabinet </a>
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*The Liberals Took My Voting Rights.* She's such a nutjob!
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<a class="ntl" title="Actually, I believe it's an album title." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Actually-I-believe-it-39s-an-album-title--25667.html">Actually, I believe it's an album title.</a><br />
point you hoped to achieve by posting that? Or did you just think it sounded clever? It means "attention" or "careful," and as such, does not even address the issue. Please, do tell how a rumor about SP possibly trying to get someone fired translates to her "loving to fire people." Was there proof that she had someone fired? Or do you always believe everything you hear on TV and take it as gospel without looking into the facts?
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<a class="ntl" title="I believe the title is "Holiness"" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-I-believe-the-title-is-34Holiness-34-55915.html">I believe the title is "Holiness"</a><br />
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<a class="ntl" title="You need to reread the title......." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-You-need-to-reread-the-title--57651.html">You need to reread the title.......</a><br />
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<a class="ntl" title="Exactly. You would think the job title would have given the Prez. a hint.sm" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Exactly-You-would-think-the-job-title-would-have-given-the-Prez-a-hint-sm-2377.html">Exactly. You would think the job title would have given the Prez. a hint.sm</a><br />
You know, Federal EMERGENCY Management Agency. Sometimes I wonder, no I wonder a lot about this prez and his decision making. <br />
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Will 2008 get here soon enough? No telling what he'll do in a WHOLE 2-1/2 years.<br />
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<a class="ntl" title="See inside. I can't figure out what to title this. LOL" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-See-inside-I-can-39t-figure-out-what-to-title-this-LOL-49932.html">See inside. I can't figure out what to title this. LOL</a><br />
<P>I just don't know a nice way to say this but those families that have babies they can't afford do so just to get on the welfare system. They certainly don't want that taken away from them. As long as they have babies, they won't have to work and live off the system. </P><br />
<P>What does Pelosi plan to do? Force everyone on birth control that have X amount of dollars per each child and state "You make $1 less than you're allowed to have this many children. Now you go on birth control." </P><br />
<P>Before you flame me, my husband's cousin did that. He was too lazy to work as was his wife...well, nah, she didn't have time to get a job. She was too busy having kids. </P><br />
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<a class="ntl" title="That is NOT in the title. More lies. Keep drinking." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-That-is-NOT-in-the-title-More-lies-Keep-drinking--57546.html">That is NOT in the title. More lies. Keep drinking.</a><br />
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<a class="ntl" title="See message (unsure of a subject title to put)" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-See-message-unsure-of-a-subject-title-to-put--58860.html">See message (unsure of a subject title to put)</a><br />
I have mixed feelings. There are horrible things going on in the world and always will be. Some call it torture others do not. It's all a matter of opinion. The people who are interrogators are trained in how to obtain information from the enemies. We (you and me and others on this board) are not. What is your solution to this? What do you suggest they do to keep America safe? Do you have any solutions or suggestions? We don't kill prisoners - unlike our enemies. However, we must use whatever technique we can to get the vital information needed. We don't cause bodily injury, and we don't cut off their heads very slowly like they do. So, they think they are going to die, you know what...I don't care. Just get the information needed to keep America safe. Unless you belong to the military or any of these government agencies involved in this type of work, you don't really know what is going on. Sorry but sitting down with a nice cup of tea and some crumpets and asking them nicely is not going to get them to speak. I say leave the decisions like this to the people who are in charge of this and trained in this. More important things going on than to think about if we are hurting the feelings of our enemies.
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<a class="ntl" title="The dark side of faith (title of article)" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-The-dark-side-of-faith-title-of-article--3625.html">The dark side of faith (title of article)</a><br />
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<P><FONT color=#333300><EM><STRONG>(Considering how much importance the *right* religion is going to play in our future Supreme Court, I thought it was ironic that I found this at the Professional Ethics site. http://ethics.tamucc.edu/article.pl?sid=05/10/01/1656216)</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><br />
<P><A href=http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-brooks1oct01,0,3034570.story?track=hpmostemailedlink>http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-brooks1oct01,0,3034570.story?track=hpmostemailedlink</A><BR></P><br />
<H1>The dark side of faith</H1>By ROSA BROOKS<BR><BR>October 1, 2005<BR><BR>IT'S OFFICIAL: Too much religion may be a dangerous thing. <BR><BR>This is the implication of a study reported in the current issue of the Journal of Religion and Society, a publication of Creighton University's Center for the Study of Religion. The study, by evolutionary scientist Gregory S. Paul, looks at the correlation between levels of popular religiosity and various quantifiable societal health indicators in 18 prosperous democracies, including the United States.<BR><BR>Paul ranked societies based on the percentage of their population expressing absolute belief in God, the frequency of prayer reported by their citizens and their frequency of attendance at religious services. He then correlated this with data on rates of homicide, sexually transmitted disease, teen pregnancy, abortion and child mortality.<BR><BR>He found that the most religious democracies exhibited substantially higher degrees of social dysfunction than societies with larger percentages of atheists and agnostics. Of the nations studied, the U.S. — which has by far the largest percentage of people who take the Bible literally and express absolute belief in God (and the lowest percentage of atheists and agnostics) — also has by far the highest levels of homicide, abortion, teen pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases. <BR><BR>This conclusion will come as no surprise to those who have long gnashed their teeth in frustration while listening to right-wing evangelical claims that secular liberals are weak on values. Paul's study confirms globally what is already evident in the U.S.: When it comes to values, if you look at facts rather than mere rhetoric, the substantially more secular blue states routinely leave the Bible Belt red states in the dust.<BR><BR>Murder rates? Six of the seven states with the highest 2003 homicide rates were red in the 2004 elections (Louisiana, Mississippi, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, South Carolina), while the deep blue Northeastern states had murder rates well below the national average. Infant mortality rates? Highest in the South and Southwest; lowest in New England. Divorce rates? Marriages break up far more in red states than in blue. Teen pregnancy rates? The same.<BR><BR>Of course, the red/blue divide is only an imperfect proxy for levels of religiosity. And while Paul's study found that the correlation between high degrees of religiosity and high degrees of social dysfunction appears robust, it could be that high levels of social dysfunction fuel religiosity, rather than the other way around. <BR><BR>Although correlation is not causation, Paul's study offers much food for thought. At a minimum, his findings suggest that contrary to popular belief, lack of religiosity does societies no particular harm. This should offer ammunition to those who maintain that religious belief is a purely private matter and that government should remain neutral, not only among religions but also between religion and lack of religion. It should also give a boost to critics of faith-based social services and abstinence-only disease and pregnancy prevention programs.<BR><BR>We shouldn't shy away from the possibility that too much religiosity may be socially dangerous. Secular, rationalist approaches to problem-solving emphasize uncertainty, evidence and perpetual reevaluation. Religious faith is inherently nonrational. <BR><BR>This in itself does not make religion worthless or dangerous. All humans hold nonrational beliefs, and some of these may have both individual and societal value. But historically, societies run into trouble when powerful religions become imperial and absolutist.<BR><BR>The claim that religion can have a dark side should not be news. Does anyone doubt that Islamic extremism is linked to the recent rise in international terrorism? And since the history of Christianity is every bit as blood-drenched as the history of Islam, why should we doubt that extremist forms of modern American Christianity have their own pernicious and measurable effects on national health and well-being? <BR><BR>Arguably, Paul's study invites us to conclude that the most serious threat humanity faces today is religious extremism: nonrational, absolutist belief systems that refuse to tolerate difference and dissent. <BR><BR>My prediction is that right-wing evangelicals will do their best to discredit Paul's substantive findings. But when they fail, they'll just shrug: So what if highly religious societies have more murders and disease than less religious societies? Remember the trials of Job? God likes to test the faithful. <BR><BR>To the truly nonrational, even evidence that on its face undermines your beliefs can be twisted to support them. Absolutism means never having to say you're sorry. <BR><BR>And that, of course, is what makes it so very dangerous. <br />
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and for that I apologize. However, the information I quoted from the book is correct, "Frank" is a communist. But, the fact remains, I never called Obama a communist. If I knew he was, I would not hesitate to call him one. I do know he is a socialist, and I call him one.<br />
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No need to ridicule and call others ignorant to make a point. It somewhat dulls any point you try to make.
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<a class="ntl" title="Did you notice the question mark at the end of the article's title?" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Did-you-notice-the-question-mark-at-the-end-of-the-article-39s-title--46765.html">Did you notice the question mark at the end of the article's title?</a><br />
Do you understand the meaning of "potential?" Imagine that. Judges have a "natural predisposition" toward complying with the DEMOCRATIC WILL OF THE PEOPLE. What a crazy and novel idea. <br />
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The truth has been out there for quite a while now. There is no THERE there. This is sheer lunacy, but hey, knock yourselves out. Nobody's listening to this garbage and the entire nation has much more pressing issues to worry about, but to remind you of them here would be a complete waste of time, in view of this myopic obsessive fixation of a marginalized tiny fringe minority of the GOP (which has been recently denounced by other, more intelligent republicans).
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<a class="ntl" title="Your previous posts" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Your-previous-posts-1391.html">Your previous posts</a><br />
Arent you the one who posted you were in the military and when asked about it, the truth came out that family members had been in the military, not you? So, are you spinning the untruths again? Or are you someone else using the same initials?
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<a class="ntl" title="It was probably the previous owner. " href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-It-was-probably-the-previous-owner--19681.html">It was probably the previous owner. </a><br />
Geez.
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<a class="ntl" title="not previous poster but" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-not-previous-poster-but-38964.html">not previous poster but</a><br />
I actually know several people of mixed race (black/white), who are openly racist against whites. Not saying that Obama is or isn't, but it can happen.
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<a class="ntl" title="I'm not the previous poster but....(sm)" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-I-39m-not-the-previous-poster-but-sm--46486.html">I'm not the previous poster but....(sm)</a><br />
I personally know about a dozen people, friends and relatives, who fit her post.<br />
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I know more about Obama than any of them, but they don't give a darn who the real man is behind the facade that he chooses to show the world.<br />
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Not to mention the documentary made during the election made that shows Obama voters, who knew/know next to nothing about the man they had just voted for...and didn't care, even when things were pointed out to them.<br />
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Some people are so uninformed who voted for Obama. My mother, my sister-in-law included, just to name a few. They only voted the democrat party like they always did...could care less who the real Obama is.....
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<a class="ntl" title="Have they done that with previous pres?" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Have-they-done-that-with-previous-pres--58108.html">Have they done that with previous pres?</a><br />
If they have done this with previous presidents, I really couldn't care less. Anyone know the answer to this?
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<a class="ntl" title="Lilly, check this out per previous" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Lilly-check-this-out-per-previous-3960.html">Lilly, check this out per previous</a><br />
Freedom of the press?<br />
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Scott McClellan Says Helen Thomas Opposes 'War on Terrorism'<br />
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By E&P Staff<br />
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Published: October 13, 2005 3:50 PM ET<br />
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NEW YORKQuestions today from longtime White House reporter Helen Thomas caused White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan to declare that she opposes the war on terrorism. His response caused one of Thomas's colleagues, Terry Moran, to leap to her defense.<br />
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Here is the exchange from the official transcript:<br />
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THOMAS What does the President mean by total victory -- that we will never leave Iraq until we have total victory? What does that mean?<br />
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McCLELLAN: Free and democratic Iraq in the heart of the Middle East, because a free and democratic Iraq in the heart of the Middle East will be a major blow to the ambitions --<br />
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THOMAS If they ask us to leave, then we'll leave?<br />
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MR. McCLELLAN: I'm trying to respond. A free and democratic Iraq in the heart of the broader Middle East will be a major blow to the ambitions of al Qaeda and their terrorist associates. They want to establish or impose their rule over the broader Middle East -- we saw that in the Zawahiri letter that was released earlier this week by the intelligence community.<br />
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THOMAS They also know we invaded Iraq.<br />
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McCLELLAN: Well, Helen, the President recognizes that we are engaged in a global war on terrorism. And when you're engaged in a war, it's not always pleasant, and it's certainly a last resort. But when you engage in a war, you take the fight to the enemy, you go on the offense. And that's exactly what we are doing. We are fighting them there so that we don't have to fight them here. September 11th taught us --<br />
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THOMAS It has nothing to do with -- Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.<br />
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McCLELLAN: Well, you have a very different view of the war on terrorism, and I'm sure you're opposed to the broader war on terrorism. The President recognizes this requires a comprehensive strategy, and that this is a broad war, that it is not a law enforcement matter.<br />
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Terry.<br />
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TERRY MORAN On what basis do you say Helen is opposed to the broader war on terrorism?<br />
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McCLELLAN: Well, she certainly expressed her concerns about Afghanistan and Iraq and going into those two countries. I think I can go back and pull up her comments over the course of the past couple of years.<br />
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MORAN And speak for her, which is odd.<br />
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McCLELLAN: No, I said she may be, because certainly if you look at her comments over the course of the past couple of years, she's expressed her concerns --<br />
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THOMAS I'm opposed to preemptive war, unprovoked preemptive war.<br />
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MR. McCLELLAN: -- she's expressed her concerns.<br />
E&P Staff (letters@editorandpublisher.com)<br />
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Links referenced within this article<br />
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letters@editorandpublisher.com<br />
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/mailto:letters@editorandpublisher.com<br />
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Find this article at:<br />
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001305789
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<a class="ntl" title="Maybe no one answered the two previous posts...sm" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Maybe-no-one-answered-the-two-previous-posts-sm-45400.html">Maybe no one answered the two previous posts...sm</a><br />
becuase they're tired of getting jumped on by your side, you know, the anti-fanatic fanatics...lol....but true.<br />
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I've refrained from commenting on this issue, even though I feel as if Obama is hiding something. Wonder what it could be?<br />
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<a class="ntl" title="If you had read my previous posts" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-If-you-had-read-my-previous-posts-39616.html">If you had read my previous posts</a><br />
you would know I have a problem with Wright. The others are just propaganda and I don't pay much attention to propaganda.
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<a class="ntl" title="And if you read the previous decision on this" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-And-if-you-read-the-previous-decision-on-this-44591.html">And if you read the previous decision on this</a><br />
the judge raled on and on for pages about Berg and frivolous law suits.
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<a class="ntl" title="And if you read the previous messages" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-And-if-you-read-the-previous-messages-44602.html">And if you read the previous messages</a><br />
Nice try!
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<a class="ntl" title="Head of FEMA fired from previous job" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Head-of-FEMA-fired-from-previous-job-2124.html">Head of FEMA fired from previous job</a><br />
Take a look at THIS info:<br />
(source http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/2/34622/68348)<br />
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Yes, that's right... the man responsible for directing federal relief operations in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, sharpened his emergency management skills as the Judges and Stewards Commissioner for the International Arabian Horses Association... a position from which he was forced to resign in the face of mounting litigation and financial disarray.<br />
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And what of that misleading White House press release?<br />
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'From 1991 to 2001, Brown was the Commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association, an international subsidiary of the national governing organization of the U.S. Olympic Committee.'<br />
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I can't even begin to fact check the dates or IAHA's alleged relationship to the US Olympic Committee, because of course, the IAHA doesn't exist anymore, so there's nothing to Google. But it begs the question... how the hell did his prior job experience prepare Brown to head FEMA?<br />
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Well, judging by his agency's performance over the past few days... it didn't.<br />
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[Cross-posted at HorsesAss.org] <br />
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Apparently, experience had nothing to do with Bush's bid for the presidency, and so he hands out agency posts like lollipops to his friends regardless of their competence or experience also.<br />
The result is that thousands die unnecessarily on many continents. No one ever gets punished for this. Instead they get the Medal of Honor or civilian equivalent. They get promoted.
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<a class="ntl" title="If I understant your previous writing correctly," href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-If-I-understant-your-previous-writing-correctly--47297.html">If I understant your previous writing correctly,</a><br />
apparently you have been missing in action over the last 8 years. There have been absolutely NO checks or balances, so how would that be any different than what we already have. Obama ushering in a New World Order? You have completely misunderstood this whole conversation. These things have started almost 20 years ago. It is not NEW, it is now being expounded upon, but NOT NEW!! Bush played into this all of his 8 years in office...maybe you should look again and read some more. I am just the messenger.
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<a class="ntl" title="previous speech talks how he will check "" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-previous-speech-talks-how-he-will-check-34-54168.html">previous speech talks how he will check "</a><br />
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<a class="ntl" title="Witch hunt on previous administration?" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Witch-hunt-on-previous-administration--58395.html">Witch hunt on previous administration?</a><br />
Ah, for the waterboarding? I would suggest you acquaint yourself with the fact that America put Japanese war prisoners to death, yes executed them, for the same thing as your previous administration now stands accused of, torture. Strange how it was horrible when it was done to Americans but now it is ok? You, dearie, need to be off the panic button. This is like mass hysteria with people running scared, of what? Oh, I saw yesterday where Obama has now been called the superpresident, nice sound, huh?
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<a class="ntl" title="A previous poster asked who PNAC was. I answered. sm" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-A-previous-poster-asked-who-PNAC-was-I-answered-sm-6688.html">A previous poster asked who PNAC was. I answered. sm</a><br />
They influence US and world policy, so believe they are definitely a threat. I first heard about the Illuminati in a Bible study class. Thought everyone knew about them. You all must think everything said is a conspiracy theory. No, Bush isn't one, but I am sure he takes orders from them, and so does other world leaders. In the book, The Creature from Jekyll Island, the creature is a monster known as The Federal Reserve System conjured up at a secret meeting by a group of Illuminati snakes on a remote island off the east coast of America in 1913. <br />
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I do believe Islam is a threat, but I also think they are being provoked and persecuted. If you do not know history on the above, then you wouldn't understand why I think this. <br />
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<a class="ntl" title="So what, you're 80, 90 years old and know this? Previous poster talking about...sm" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-So-what-you-39re-80-90-years-old-and-know-this-Previous-poster-talking-about-sm-39187.html">So what, you're 80, 90 years old and know this? Previous poster talking about...sm</a><br />
Joseph Kennedy back in the 1940s and 1950s, some 60-70 years ago, and what he did and didn't do? It's all in the history books. <br />
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Maybe Teddy is like that today and pays for nothing (doubt that, but hey, you say live there, whatever), really don't care for him much at all, what with Chappaquiddick (sp?) and all, and how daddy Kennedy got young Teddy off on murder charges on that poor girl, Mary Jane Kopechne. Daddy Kennedy called in favors for that one, too, doncha know.<br />
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It's well known how much daddy Kennedy did for JFK way back then, to get him elected. It's called history. <br />
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<a class="ntl" title="my 401K from a previous employer hasn't lost much " href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-my-401K-from-a-previous-employer-hasn-39t-lost-much--44032.html">my 401K from a previous employer hasn't lost much </a><br />
but it's in low risk investments, a lot of bonds, and so when things get better, it probably won't rise as quickly as other 401k's. I'm a chicken.
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<a class="ntl" title="No, you have paid no attention to the previous posters, maxie...sm" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-No-you-have-paid-no-attention-to-the-previous-posters-maxie-sm-47292.html">No, you have paid no attention to the previous posters, maxie...sm</a><br />
If Obama ushers it in, he will be to blame. Period.<br />
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And not it looks like no one in Congress in the minority (i.e., republicans) will be able to present any sort of check and balance to anything that goes on in the next four years.<br />
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God help us all.
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<a class="ntl" title="you must be referring to the previous admin. - GW didn't like to read much......" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-you-must-be-referring-to-the-previous-admin-GW-didn-39t-like-to-read-much--52782.html">you must be referring to the previous admin. - GW didn't like to read much......</a><br />
he did miss that memo about an impending attack on our country using our own private airlines..........Boy wonder? Must be referring to his super hero underwear.
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<a class="ntl" title="On a serious note..." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-On-a-serious-note--13805.html">On a serious note...</a><br />
<P>....I thank you for your response. While I agree boxes probably arent' the best idea sometimes they make complicated ideologies a little simpler to understand, I guess.</P><br />
<P>Actually I would be very interested in learning all the posters on these boards beliefs/ideologies/hopes for the future. I think we could do this without undermining each other or bashing. Perhaps I'll post it at the top of the board some time as a new topic.</P>
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<a class="ntl" title="and on that note..." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-and-on-that-note--19174.html">and on that note...</a><br />
Who gained the most benefit from keeping it a secret, and/or keeping the rumor afloat that he is still out there somewhere?
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<a class="ntl" title="Note to sam" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Note-to-sam-23683.html">Note to sam</a><br />
Sam, just wondering if when you post a legitimate question on the board could you please change your name. It seems like anything you ask anymore people are bashing you. You put up some very good questions (sorry can't answer this one as I'm not knowlegable enough to know what the outcome would be -it's all too confusing), but it seems as though people are going to attack you for anything. Now if there is an argument you want to make that's one thing, but its not right that you put up a question and people are attacking you for that. - just a suggestion.
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<a class="ntl" title="One more note" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-One-more-note-31898.html">One more note</a><br />
Was curious to see what people would say to my post. I expected the O supporters to bash me for my opinion. That's the way this board is run, but I was curious so came back. For all of you thinking this is one sided - I voted for Obama! I supported Obama! I donated money to his campaign. I fought tooth and nail on this board to defend Obama. I got into some rough ones with some of the republicans on this board. But as time has gone on I have researched and learned more about Obama and I do not like what I am finding out. I come to this board to hopefully get some insightful information and it IS mostly the democrats bashing and attacking posters who are for McCain. I would say 95% dems bashing republicans and 5% republicans defending themselves by coming back at the posters who originally bashed them. Facts are facts and its in black and white on this board. And they bash Palin without cause. I just say it like it is (sorry you don't like to admit it). Like the poster below said - guess only half the pixels on your monitor work. <br />
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If you had any type of open mind you would read through every single post and you would see the Obama supporters bashing the McCain supporters more, calling them every name in the book while in the same breath saying its all them against you (and the posts below are proof of that). The posts below show you don't have open minds, you don't search out facts. You are blindly led around like a bunch of sheep.<br />
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God help us if Obama gets in there. I for one don't want to live my life with the likes of Farrahan, Wright, Resko, and Ayers (to name a few) dictating how we should be living. Farrakan's the creepiest of all, and I cannot for the life of me figure out why you want to live like that.
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<a class="ntl" title="Please note....(sm)" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Please-note-sm--59628.html">Please note....(sm)</a><br />
<P>I think Phelps and his daughter were banned back in Feb.</P><br />
<P>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/7898972.stm</P><br />
<P>There are also a number of people on the list whose names have not been published. I would love to see the entire list. </P>
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<a class="ntl" title="Note, what I said was" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Note-what-I-said-was-61685.html">Note, what I said was</a><br />
You prepare for what an opponent <EM>might</EM> do, not what he appears to be doing at the moment. Situations change in an instant, stuff happens, appearances may be misleading. You don't encumber both hands when you could be attacked, especially if there's more than one. Doesn't mean attack them first, but you stay ready for the possibility that they might attack you. Military training and just plain common sense.
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<a class="ntl" title="Please note....(sm)" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Please-note-sm--62340.html">Please note....(sm)</a><br />
<P>We are talking about Obama here, not Bush the war monger. </P><br />
<P>"There will always be a war that he needs them for and if there isn't one he will create one." </P><br />
<P>You do realize that Obama was one of the few senators who voted completely against the Iraq war? What makes you think he wants to stay in a war when all he has done is talk about how we need to get out of it? That is just completely irrational.</P><br />
<P>"Why do you say the GOP is not funding the troops." </P><br />
<P>Ummm....because the vast majority of pubs in the house just voted against a funding bill?</P><br />
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<a class="ntl" title="How many did it take to write this note?" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-How-many-did-it-take-to-write-this-note--307.html">How many did it take to write this note?</a><br />
Just wondering.<IMG src=http://www.forumatrix.com/smileys/cutelaugh.gif>
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