phony outrage coming from the
Posted By: phony Obama. nm on 2008-09-10
In Reply to: So sick of phoney outrage...... - sm
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Ya, thanks for your phony thanks...sm
saw your other post below on links......
Try again - Outrage should be with
Clinton/NAFTA - that's where it began. Unfortunately it continued on. GW may have not helped, but Clinton started it.
Shame on you for distorting facts.
Where was your outrage......
when Muslim men in this country beat and murdered their daughters and wives? Why didn't you call them Muslim terrorists? Religious zealots? Pleeze...... get off the "Christian" kick you seem to be stuck on. There are plenty of Muslims in this country who are true terrorists and hate you for no other reason than you are just an American, religion or not! The black men who were just arrested after the CIA caught them planning to blow up a building and now the other black man who converted to Islam and was trained by the jihad. Where is all your outrage about that? Please get your priorities in order!
This man should not have been killed. He would have had to answer to God sooner or later but your lack of compassion or outrage for the children murdered at his hands is quite telling!
You're the phony.
And you're the one who has issues..severe anger management issues. You've been up and down this board throwing hissy fits, one right after another, being rude, crude, angry and obnoxious to anyone who dares to disagree with you, and you even had the audacity to suggest to someone (who has put up with your crap and tried to discuss issues with you) that they have anger issues. YOU are the one with an obvious anger problem. You act like a 3-year-old who is throwing a tantrum because she can't get her way. You're the one who is phony. You must have a pitiful personal life, and it must really suck to be YOU because you are obviously miserable.
I saw the big phony. Why donate? He gets enough
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The Death of Outrage.
Ever read it? Great book. Bill Bennett wrote it. It's very applicable to certain people. You might not like it. Well, anyway, what Bennett was doing (and he explained it) is what you would do in a hypothetical philosophical discussion.
I'll use a silly example: Suppose we were in the Star Wars galaxy, both former senators, sitting at a posh club on Coroscant drinking jin-jin juice. You happened to remark to me, You know, I hear it has been said in the Outer Rim that if we killed all the Jedi babies, there would be less mind control instances. Now, some ditz from the Tatooine Times-Picayune records us secretly and has it on MSNBCABCCBSNBCFOX channel on the Galactic Network. Except, they only playback this part,if we killed all the Jedi babies, there would be less mind control instances. Would you still say it was stupid, ill-conceived of yourself to say that? Bennett was alluding, of course, to Freakanomics, and if you don't know what that is, then you have no business even discussing this subject at all. But if you DID know what that was, and you were of a mind to say, he should have mentioned Freakanomics often during the conversation, then I would ask you this. Do you constantly say over and over in each sentence in a conversation any reference you are alluding to in a discussion? Oh, I know how very bad many here want to portray Bill as a racist. But he isn't. Not that the truth will matter one iota to you. Remember that stupid remark your HERO Bill Maher made on his show that got him yanked off the air? Remember, he called Clinton a coward and the terrorists heroes. He wasn't really serious, he was just kind of throwing it out there, but GOSH OH GOLLY people took him seriously and POOF he was gone. He's back, which is unfortunate, but I know how much you like him. See, sometimes people say things in ways you really have to dig for the meaning. I will give you that Bennett could have said what he said differently. Hyperbole is wasted on people with concrete thinking (all Republicans are rich, The Democrats are the party of the poor). What I WON'T GIVE YOU is that Bennett is a racist. Because he isn't.
Romney is a phony, but at least not a lunatic. sm
McCain will bomb Iran the day after he takes office. There really is no difference in voting for either one - they will both assure the status quo, but I do not want McCain anywhere near a button for a bomb.
Pelosi is even more phony than Obama
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This guy gets it. Sees through the phony Obama
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Oh, I know. Al Gore is the biggest phony
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So sick of phoney outrage......
Maybe if ppl had half a brain, they would be outraged by real issues. Our constitution has been used as TP. Ignore your rights and they will just go away.
who no sexist outrage last week
when female commentator on Fox morning show made comment about Sara being nominated because she has "t**s" (female mammary glands). I saw the clip -- have heard no anguished cries from the conservatives about sexist on this one.
Yawn. More phoney outrage.
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More Bush abuses: Phony 9/11 Loans
Nevada tanning salon gets 9/11 loan: audit
By Jim WolfThu Dec 29, 3:10 PM ET
A Texas golf course, a Nevada tanning salon and an Illinois candy shop were among small businesses that may have improperly received U.S. subsidized loans intended for firms hurt by the September 11 attacks, an internal government watchdog has found.
The Small Business Administration's inspector general said in a report made public on Wednesday that in 85 percent of the sample of loans it reviewed, a company's eligibility to receive the money through the program could not be verified.
A leading Senate Republican called for further investigation, but the Small Business Administration said the program was properly implemented.
The one-year, $4.5 billion Supplemental Terrorist Activity Relief, or STAR, program offered loan guarantees to small businesses adversely affected by the September 11 attacks.
However, the Small Business Administration had failed to properly oversee lenders to make sure that only eligible borrowers obtained STAR loans, the watchdog's report found.
Money may have gone to businesses that were not adversely impacted by the terrorist attacks of September 11th or their aftermath, wrote Robert Seabrooks, assistant inspector general for auditing.
Congress authorized the program in January 2002, and set aside $75 million to cover potential defaults. The program was operated through the Small Business Administration's main loan-guarantee program and the loans were made by participating banks. In all, 8,201 loans were approved totaling $3.7 billion, but only 7,058 were actually paid out.
Of 42 STAR-loan recipients interviewed by the inspector general's office, just two said they were aware they had obtained a such a loan. In cases where eligibility could not be established, 25 of 34 borrowers interviewed stated they were not adversely affected by the attacks, the report said.
GOLF COURSE
The report's examples included the Texas golf course, whose owner was cited by a lender as saying people were more interested in staying home and watching the attack on television than playing golf. However, the course was owned by someone else when the attacks took place and the justification for the $480,000 in loan guarantees did not apply to the new owner, the report said.
The tanning salon's lender blamed the September 11 attacks for hurting the Las Vegas casino industry which employed many of the salon's customers.
However, the inspector general found the salon's business had grown by 52 percent in 2001 and 32 percent in 2002 and said there was no evidence the owner could not borrow outside of the program. The SBA guaranteed $437,000 in loans to the salon, which were used to expand.
The Illinois candy shop received $21,250 in guarantees but could not back up its claim that the attacks had delayed the shop's opening, the report said.
Senate Small Business Committee Chairwoman Olympia Snowe, a Maine Republican, said her panel would look into the program.
If abuses are discovered, many questions must be answered by the parties involved, beginning with how and why was this allowed to happen, she said in a statement.
SBA said it has told lenders it will not honor guarantees on defaulted loans that fail to document the September 11 link.
SBA implemented the STAR program as Congress intended, Administrator Hector Barreto said in a statement.
The inspector general said it appeared qualified borrowers were not shut out of STAR loans.
(Additional reporting by Diane Bartz)
Pathetic are people who would follow this phony.
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I dont hate Obama, but he seems like a phony.
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Rush cant stand a phony spouted scripted
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There was more outrage over the Dan Rather forgery than the yellow cake documents..sm
Pretty much sums up the state of affairs we find ourselves in.
The essence of their outrage is hijacked by just plain hatred.
hatred of Bush, anything to do with Bush. The mere mention of his name causes the bile to rise and the red mist to engulf them. They hate, hate, hate. They blame, blame, blame. It's what they do. There is no having conversations with them. They don't see reason. They don't see fairness. They see nothing but hate.
Phoney outrage over baseless, debunked accusations
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Not hatred, outrage because of blind loyalty, and I am an Independent....sm
Democrat who thinks for herself and does not have to swallow party lies, or cling to bad loyalties. America means we can ,and SHOULD think for ourselves, I may carry a party affiliation, but I go with my gut, my own intelligence, my instincts, and all the information and education I can get.....you can follow a party,but not into a burning building, as the Bush supporters do....we can all be independent, that is why we have this country, time to get away from that "US OR THEM" theology and be AMERICAN, blind party loyalty is just mass insanity.
Reply to phoney outrage over Chicago politics is on message.
from which so many repugs on this board suffer and the silence they maintain on W's reign of terror and corruption.
Love how outrage against genocidal statements is deemed "political correctness" by the Right.
How absolutely low can they go.
Where is this coming from? sm
When you same something this inflammatory, this hateful, this destructive, and this untrue, you need to give a source other than your personal opinion.
No, I don't get where you are coming from.....
Did a gay/lesbian person EVER push their lifestyle on you? If so, they were simply classless people. I have never had that happen with couples (2 separate people tried to hit on me, same sex, but, they erroneously thought I was of the same ilk). What people do in their bedroom is their own business. I was raised in a small town, my family was well acquainted with several gay couples. One of the ladies was a very powerful deputy sheriff who commanded respect and who also owned half the town. She was one of the most intelligent, fascinating people I have ever met. I was raised to look at it as a non-issue. It didn't change who those people were. We loved them no matter what.
this coming from the
person who told another poster to "shut up" recently. War, economy, health care. We are dealing with horrific problems here.
Where are you coming from?
The post that Zville put up had only 2 responses besides yourself. How that has anything to do with "rabid Republicans" and the rest of your post is out of line. No one but you mentioned the different parties.
What is coming......sm
No need to check this out on Snopes because it won't be there. This actually happened to a friend's friend and my friend told me about it.
I ordered a pizza and when the delivery guy comes to the door I see he is an older guy. With a heavy accent he pointed to my yard sign and said "That is right, no Obama, yes McCain." I nodded in approval and said "Thats right!" and he went on to say "I lived 37 years under a communist government, and what is coming, is communism."
Now, if that don't scare ya straight, I don't know what will.
Coming to the top with you...
I just didn't want this message to get lost below.
This post is nothing but an opinion by an unidentified author from an obscure website. This website is run by a guy named Jeff Rense. He also does a radio talk show about UFO sightings. Nice research there partner!
no one is coming
since you are making a racist remark against whites, you need to know I am black and I too have a gun and ammo. You think only white people have that? And I too am a conservative and I suppose you would consider me right wing, if you want to give it a name. I am a God fearing person whom you call hyper-religious. I am against abortion and believe we have the right to bear arms.
Need to reassess your own views first.
The coming
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/7901
where is this coming from - seriously? nm
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Isn't that coming anyway?
Government is getting more and more control over things. If they take control of everything.....what makes you think they won't tell us how to live, where to live, what we can buy, etc.
How would you like somebody coming
into your house and taking it away from you? Not every people accepts this, because it is wrong.
You don't even know who I am, I only started coming here.
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Indictments coming down
One to ffive indictments coming down. Those involved have already been told. Indictments are sealed until tomorrow.
And the funnies keep on coming.
I hope for your sake that laws are never changed to require a voter to have a double-digit IQ. 
Exactly! Coming together as Americans...
and out from under all "labels" is where the answer lies. No one truly believes in Democracy anymore. In days gone by, yes, there would be grousing going up to election, a little grousing after election, then we were all friends again until the next election cycle. All this polarization is ridiculous, and disliking someone strictly on their political stance, and saying silly things like "I have known people like you all my life" and focusing that frustration on one person they don't even know...how silly is that?? I suppose because they can't confront those people in "real life" they come here to unload on strangers. It is truly my way or the highway, and it is that way on BOTH sides. Would it not be wonderful to be Americans first and liberals or conservatives or polka-dotted SECOND?
Keep 'em coming.
I’m going to take a page out of your book again and simply jump over this latest denial/dodge of yours...just like you did with the context post. Blame game bluster scores no points here. The ignorance seems to be unending, but at least you could try to know your own party platform. Think you can handle that?
Bottom line. This is so simple, even you can get it. Dems would impose the R-words (regulatiions and restrictions) on the transnationals....back in the day, we called it monopoly busting. Pubs give them the keys to the candy store, the greed of the wealthy being what it is and all. Gotta keep those CEOs perks coming.
We can all see how well that has worked for us. One does not have to look too far to see just how inept the party has been over the past 8 years in all things economic. Huge surplus transformed to deepest deficit of all times, virtually overnight, gas/food, bank foreclosures, housing crisis, rising unemployment, wage stagnation, inflation/recession. Bush’s latest brilliant explanation for all this is that “Wall Street got drunk. It has a hangover. Don’t know how long it will take them to sober up.” This would be the extent of his experience? Scarey. Maybe he has been reading McCain's joke book. The candidate tells us that the economy “is not his strong suit.” Disarmingly honest, but none to comforting. Speaks for itself.
Touched on this in the economics paragraph in the context post, but you chose to ignore that...or, in your own words, maybe that was the one you were not paying attention to, I forget. In fact, no response from you, Sam, speaks volumes and sheds a whole lot more light on the subject than anything you might actually come out and try to say. Go figure.
Ok, I understand where you are coming from...
we just agree to disagree on this. Politicians say slanderous things about each other all the time...it is the nature of the beast. And the presidential election year is when all these kinds of books come out, with innuendo and stuff from "unnamed sources" on both sides.
But bottom line, all the things I know about Obama and the company he keeps and the things he has done in his political life are much more concerning to me than whether or not John McCain called his wife a vulgar name. With only these two choices, mine will have to be McCain.
I am not sure your statement of "he is a mean and nasty person all around" is a fair characterization either. He and his wife have been involved with many charitable efforts, mostly to do with children. Have you read about their adopted daughter?
That being said, you are certainly entitled to your opinion and to state it, as am I. :) Have a good evening.
I have been coming to this board off and on
for a while now, usually just stay quiet because I don't agree with half of what either side says and I really don't like all the bashing part of politics. Some of the things said here and other places are quite disgusting, the bickering I can handle and actually enjoy reading, but when it gets to that base level it is just disturbing to me. But, here is my question. And, I'll preface it by saying that I am a Republican but am finding myself more of an independent after the last 8 years.
For all the people spouting off the virtues of Sarah Palin, I have not heard one comment in her defense or an excuse for her about her part in that whole radio morning show. You know the one, where the radio DJ was making fun, being cruel really, about a the President of the Senate in Alaska that he, nor SP like. You know the part when he called her fat and SP just laughed, when he called this woman a BI*CH and she just laughed, when he called this woman a cancer and she just laughed (BTW, this woman actually had cancer and they knew that). Sure, she later said she was "caught off guard" by his comment. Whatever. Wouldn't a decent human being have just said, Stop. I'm not going to take part in this. Any number of things. If she was so caught off guard by that, what is she going to do as VP. And, how does she end the whole conversation. When the DJ makes a comment about visiting Palin, she says "I'd be honored to have you."
This is probably my #1 problem with her. She seems to have a total lack of compassion. She enjoyed bashing Obama during her speech the other night, and I was disgusted to see that the audience seemed to enjoy it too. I have worked within my community and I am proud of that, as should Obama be. I didn't hear a whole lot in her speech about what she plans to do, or what her actual stand on issues are. I didn't hear much of them from McCain either.
I dare say that if these 2 keep letting her evade the tough questions, well any questions at all, I might be crossing lines this year. Yes, it seems that the media, or certain media, are unnecessarily attacking her but I hope that doesn't become an excuse for them to have her not answer questions.
I used to be pro-Obama, but so much keeps coming out (sm)
To be honest, I am not really thrilled about either of our choices, however, Obama scares me more...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7145283472276068711&ei=5DTUSIvKFoPo-AGg7omyAg&q=Look%2C+I+got+two+daughters+%E2%80%94+9+years+old+and+6+years+old%2C%22+he+said.+%22I+am+going+to+teach+them+first+about+values+and+morals%2C+but+if+they+make+a+mistake&vt=lf&hl=en
Okay. Whatever. You just do not get where I am coming from. Forget it.
I DO NOT LIKE EITHER CANDIDATE. PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION. Thank you. Blast Obama, Blast McCain. The ECONOMY is the problem right now. But nobody seems to care about that. Just constant bashing, and scare tactics. Done with the whole thing. Bye.
where are the cuts coming from?
who is losing out ESPECIALLY when he has all these plans for additional government programs?
It's coming along great!
I just have myself involved in so much that I don't have enough time as I would like to devote to it. I'm going to start teaching classes at a local Teen Ranch. They have acreage and will be able to raise their own gourds, make gourd art and sell it to raise money. Here's a link to their website http://www.arkansasteenchallenge.org/ Well, that's the website anyway, I can never get the link thing to work.
Tues. and Wed.morning this week I did a field trip for the local 4th and 5th grade classes (212 of them) at the Cane Hill College Building and spoke to them about the history of the college (it was the first college west of the Mississipi and is said to have fostered the public education system in Arkansas.) It was turned into a public school around the turn of the century. I was apprehensive about speaking to these kids but guess I did okay, one of the students said she wished she could go to school just 1 day like the kids did who attended school there. A teacher quickly picked up on that idea and we're making plans to take one class at a time and give them such a day. The last class was in the 1950s so the kids will dress in period clothing (no pants and they will divide up in groups and the teacher will teach 3 "grade" levels to simulate how it was done when it was a school. Long story about the reasons but I will take my huge cauldron pot and make stew over a wood fire and they will have soup, peanut butter and SYRUP sandwiches, dessert and milk for lunch. Of course parent volunteers will be there helping me.
Sorry about so much personal information but I get really excited about things I believe in and that also includes our government and it's serious need for change.
i have no doubt He is coming
than we think.
This coming from the very person
who didn't know what sm and NM meant and thought every person using sm was the same person.
At least I'm not blinded by the promise of change from a man who has no experience running anything but his mouth.
The End of the World Is Coming!
As long as the folks get a rise out of ya, they will continue to post it.
GP - I'm really trying to understand where you are coming from
I just don't understand it. I don't want to argue I want to understand why you feel this way. Forget who supports who. I don't care if you support the same person as me or not. I don't care how many days until election. It could be 100 or it could be 1. If you hear Obama's voice and he says very clearly and even democrats on TV are saying "tell me he didn't say that". But his own voice (and he does not deny he said it) that he will bankrupt any investor in coal power plants, and then in his own voice he said that he will make energy prices skyrocket, why don't you believe it.
Again, I could care less about how many days there are til the election. It's Obama's voice saying this and I'd really like to know why you don't believe it. My MIL is like this and I can't have a conversation with her because when I ask her today why she doesn't believe it she told me because Bush is the antichrist and Obama would never say anything like that because he is the savior of our country. I asked her what she meant and she said everyone is trying to demonize Obama and those weren't his words. So I couldn't get a straight answer from her. So maybe you can explain if you hear Obama saying this why you don't believe it.
Where do you think all this money is coming from?
Are you naive enough to think they just print it? TAXES. Too many "social programs" means more TAXES, not only from the rich but from everyone.
Yes, I think there is a depression coming if it isn't already here. sm
I live in Michigan, on the west side of the state, but nonetheless in Michigan. We are so tied up in the auto industry that if the Big 3 crash and burn, Michigan may well just cease to exist. We have had 3 auto parts plants close down, Steelcase and Herman Miller are cutting jobs, because people are not hiring, so why make all that office furniture. There is nothing incoming to help take up the slack. Then, I heard on the news this morning that the city of Detroit has now appealed to the feds for help to bail it out. Detroit IS big 3 auto country. If Detroit tanks, so goes the rest of the state. Kwame Kilpatrick fallout not withstanding.
I like to think that as long as people get sick, I will have a job because I do acute care. And we all know that there are people who use the ED as a PCP. Hopefully my doctor in AZ can help me out, but he is a specialist, so who knows.
My 403(b) has lost half of what it used to be, and then I hear that they have suspended the sales of MRE's. But I think that is just over-excitable hype.
However....I have a feeling that the "Great Depression" 2008 style is coming. I don't think the "End Times" is coming, but something has to give or the United States of America will become another third world country.
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