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oops...that should be under-educated. (nm)

Posted By: Obamarama on 2008-09-10
In Reply to: Only from under-eductated individuals. (nm) - Obamarama

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A note about educated and un-educated
I think a lot of people get the two mixed up. They believe that if you have a degree you are educated. Anyone can go to school, sit through classes, study and take a test. That's the easy part. The hard part (IMHO) is for people to receive information, process it, understand it, and make their own informed decisions. I have a sister who has a 4 year degree and graduated from a college, but she is not educated on the policies or what is going on in the country and around the world. Also have a brother & brother in-law with their degrees. One understands the issues presented to us, the other, like my sister only knows what they were taught in class, and they tell me that the instructors would not lie to them so they will believe what their instructors taught them. You ask them about a policy or why laws were put into place, ask them to talk to you about what's going on in the country/world, etc, and they cannot answer.

Then there are those who did not receive a "formal" education yet when you talk to them you can have an honest intelligent discussion with them. They ask questions and give input. They share information and think on their own.

Therefore the two really need to be separated.

Education = informed and able to think and process information without being told how to think. This can include both people with degrees and without.

Uneducated - blindly following what someone tells you what to do and how to think. You have no ideas of your own and just mimic the words of others. This can include both people with degrees and without.
better educated does not always
equal more intelligent. don't people get that?
Well, here's some of your educated

answers:


“He was born and educated in America.” He spent 10 years in Indonesia.


 


“What you are saying is ridiculous” yet you don’t back it up with anything.


 


“Are you kidding me?” and don’t back it up with anything.


 


“I am a refined democrat” but don’t give reasons why.


 


“What’s this nonsense” yet nothing to back it up?


 


 


and my favorite:


“Why should an American President be born in the US?
This should be amended. It is old fashioned.
A child born to illegal immigrants in the US can become an American President.
Is this LOGIC?”


 


This means you don’t care if who runs for president from other countries, even terrorists. Way to go!


 


in an mature and educated

community this would be ideal.  Kerry thought there were enough reasonable adults to see through the Swift Boat lies and did not fight back;  that is why he lost the election. I am glad Obama choses not to stoop to smear and fear.  Yet to prevent another Swift Boat type election, somebody has to sling the garbage back at the same level as the bottom feeders. Its a dirty job but hey . . .


 


 


Yea, they are SOOOO educated that they
be taken over by Muslim terrorists.....yea, they're really on top of it.
You are so right. You educated yourself to the issues and now sm
You realize, as I do, that Obama is going to fight for us. He is going to penalize companies who outsource. That means OUR jobs. What is up with people on this board? I am sure if they paid attention like you did they would be voting Obama too. I, like you, have dissected every bit of info this year. I watched Dem and Repub primaries, follow all of the issues and it's so completely clear that Obama is the right one.
Maybe not hicks, but obviously not educated..
enough to work hard instead of sitting on the internet, watching dancing with the stars, eating doritos and flipping through people magazine whlie waiting for their check in the mail. Sheeple will follow each other over the cliff, hope you have on your hiney is well padded!
You don't sound educated because

of some of your posts below.


I'm very educated and I voted for him

Maybe if you would take the time to educate yourself rather than just read crap on blogs, you might not worry so much.  The bill is creating the Congressional Commission on Civic Service, which may be referred to as the Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act (GIVE).


In section 6104 it states


(b) Specific Topics- In carrying out its general purpose under subsection (a), the Commission shall address and analyze the following specific topics:


(6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.


They're simply exploring whether a national service requirement is even feasible.  They're not implementing anything yet.  Why people get worked up without even  knowing what they're getting worked up about is beyond me.  Which is why I usually stay off the political board.


I'm going back to work now.


 


college educated voter in the

suburb up the road says farmer is an ignorant redneck who does not check facts.


 


Then maybe that college educated voter......... sm
might like to test that theory by working a season or two in the redneck farmer's fields.

I live in an area where there are a lot of immigrant workers. The truth of the matter is that farmers really cannot afford to pay a wage high enough to be able to afford even a modest apartment, let alone buy food and pay utilities. I live right down the road from a poultry farm which employs a family of Mexican immigrants. The farmer, while making a fairly decent living (at least until Pilgrim's filed bankruptcy) provides a mobile home for the family to live in, pays utilities on said home and also pays the family wages to work on his poultry farm. No doubt this family recieves Medicaid and food stamps as well and the children probably get free lunches at school. It is very hard, if not impossible, to get Americans to work these kinds of jobs. I'm not condoning illegal immigrants, but if legal immigrants will do the job, then why not hire them?
ever heard of over-educated idiots?
mind you, i am not calling anyone that, but just stating how it is commonly understood that one can be very educated in the system, and not be too smart still. you just keep watching, and be fair to both candidates, and see if you don't see what i am talking about.
F: Obama more intelligent, better educated. nm
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They're a lot more progressive and educated.

Do you consider yourself to be an intelligent educated person?
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OBAMA 08! the only educated choice NM

Democrats are more educated and have more class sm
But I agree that Fox News watchers are easily manipulated and usually not all that bright.
Can these people not see the class that Obama has? sheesh.
Seems the EDUCATED are "whacked out" (like your president). nm
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right, al the young and educated, progressive
people voted for Mousavi. Even before all the votes were in, the government already announced a landslide win for Ahmedinejad. Definitely fraud, Ahmedinejad's ratings before the elections were very low, high unemployment rate. How could he win?
Is Obama an elitist because he is better educated than McCain?
What do you think makes Obama an elitist?
Palis? See what I mean about educated? typossss on an MT board? nm
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Obama supporters are very educated and not hicks nm
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To all well-educated voters and free thinkers...

On Tuesday night, If and when Barack Hussein Obama wins the 2008 United States Presidential Election, please join me in announcing that "The tribe has spoken, and that  John McCain, Sarah Palin, and the ubiquitous Sam have officially been voted off the island!"



Michelle is a nice, educated person, BUT
I would not call her beautiful. Come on! What is beautiful on her? And regarding her 'own' style?
Sure, everybody has his/her own style.
"...he is a self-educated, caring, honest, and intelligent man"
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Apparently you don't understand statistics or science. Get educated, please!!

 


It's not scientifically sound to make pseudo-scientific statements about U.S. obesity based on a television program you saw that featured some obese people in it.  But it seems when it comes to scientific fact, statistics or the truth - you CONS don't have a clue.


 


Rankings: Obesity Rates Grew In Every State But Oregon


Mississippi Ranked Heaviest State



POSTED: 8:29 am PDT August 23, 2005

UPDATED: 9:34 am PDT August 23, 2005


The obesity epidemic isn't winding down -- in fact, it's expanding, according to state rankings released Tuesday by Trust for America's Health, a nonprofit health advocacy group.

Obesity rates continued to rise last year in every state but Oregon. Mississippi ranked as the heaviest state, Colorado as the least heavy, according to the report, titled F as in Fat: How Obesity Policies are Failing in America, 2005.

The rankings are based on averages of three years of data from 2002 to 2004 from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Hawaii was not included in the report.

About 64.5 percent of adult Americans are either overweight or obese. The report found that more than 25 percent of adults in 10 states are obese, including in Mississippi, Alabama, West Virginia, Louisiana, Tennessee, Texas, Michigan, Kentucky, Indiana and South Carolina.

Obama is the choice of the educated and smartest people nm
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Commie? This is out of line. Obama supporters are educated. nm
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I'll take progressive-thinking, educated liberals any day
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Totally wrong because the most educated people vote for Obama sm
That is a fact. The dumb, uneducated vote repub, the greedy rich vote repub and the religious right vote repub. The college educated people vote Obama. Why do you think McBush and Failin are out there calling Joe SixPack etc... that's their only hope. They know the filthy rich without conscience will vote for them. They know the religiouis nuts but some of the eehaas and dummies have been going to Obama and McBush and Failin are freaking out a little.
Oh MM, oops, I mean gt. SM
I think you have enough hate for the whole world.  I'll leave that to you.
Oops!

I see they also accused you of being me (and/or others) in your more current posts using the ?? moniker.  In reading your posts there, it was obvious you were sincerely looking for debate, and all you did was ask intelligent questions that should have led to an intelligent debate.  Instead it lead to more personal attacks and name calling, without EVER once addressing the ISSUE you were attempting to address.  I'm sorry you were treated so badly there.  You did nothing to deserve their wrath, other than act like a normal respectful human being with valid questions, and they have little tolerance for people like that. 


If you search further down on this board, you'll see where I attempted to debate one of them here well over a month ago.  The person, who I was fooled into believing was sincere about being here to debate, clearly didn't have any responses, though she promised to respond later and never did.  She had the golden opportunity to add something of value and continue the debate process I had begun, but she chose to ignore that and I suppose found more pleasure in insulting others, adding nothing of substance or value to this board, as they constantly do to their own board. 


They constantly accuse liberals on this board of being heinous people, their most favorite accusation seeming to be how hateful we all are, yet I think they honestly don't realize how hateful they come across constantly.  Or maybe they do.  Who knows?


Oops, try this one.sm
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/disowning-conservative-politics-is/20060729195809990005?ncid=NWS00010000000001
oops
that would be though they are all bad


Little Dem oops...
Y'know how the Democrats were so opposed to McCain's proposed holiday from the gas tax while gas was so high? Welllll....seems the Dem Nat'l Committee has not only been enjoying tax-free gas in Denver (site of convention), they have been getting it totally free on the front end because there is no signed contract in place to pay for the gas used (even it is tax free), they basically told the Denver mayor they were "good for it." Well, guess they can borrow from Barack if they get in a pinch...lol. The Mayor is the one who offered gas tax free...and seems the state of Colorado has taken exception to that, and the state revenue dept launched an investigation because that is a no-no...the state did not agree to wave the gas tax, and why did the Dems Natl Committee even agree to that when they had been totally against it for the rest of us out here struggling, even for a little gas tax holiday. LOL. Sooo typical. Do as we SAY America, NOT as we DO. Unnnbelievable. LOL. When asked about it, the mayor replied, obviously before having checked with the St. Paul people..."The Republicans are doing the same thing in St. Paul!" Well, number one, they aren't; but even if they were, that somehow makes it right? LOL. The Republicans were FOR a gas tax holiday. The Dems were against it. Well...except the Dem Natl Committee it seems. Heard a local Denver radio show talking about it. Seems not all Denverites, Dem and Repub alike, are impressed with this decision...go figure.
Oops. sm
I did research it...

His wife outed him.

Obama used the roundtable audience, as she did yesterday, to describe her husband's understanding of women's issues through the prism of the strong -- but sometimes struggling -- women in his life.

His own mother, she said at the beginning of her remarks, was "very young and very single when she had him." And, Obama added, he has observed his wife's attempts to reconcile motherhood with her career aspirations.

"He sees me, his wife, who struggles every day with that guilt that we all hold deep in our hearts as women," she said. "That guilt that you don't have the choice to stay home, and even if you do, you feel guilty."

"He has seen me struggle with this my entire life," she added. "Trust me, Barack understands the struggles of women."

Exactly diametrically opposite from things that have been posted here today.

I don't think Sarah Palin, OR Barack Obama's mother, deserve this kind of criticism.
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oops
the one who received the disability within two months.... was "HEARING VOICES" .... whatever.... if you ask me, the only voice he has never heard was the one telling him to continue to be lazy and work the system.
Oops. (sm)

Sorry.  Didn't see that. 


Oops. big bad me
I made a <gasp> typo!  OMG I am the scourge of humanity.  No as a matter of fact I did not write in Nader.  Guess again.
Oops, message above

OOPS, THAT SHOULD BE REPUBLICAN!!! SORRY!!
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Oops,sorry about the typo. I should know better sm
after 25 years as an MT. 20 lashes with a wet noodle.
Oops, thought I was in the U.S.!!
And I guess peace ain't as popular as it used to be.....seems to be a really dirty word on this board.
Oops, please reverse the above!
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oops == There should be "This" sorry nm
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Oops...should be see message not (nm)
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oops - some typos
I meant she does not consider people who do service-oriented jobs as human beings (otherwise she would not have made the comment that she is going to start considering the cleaning lady as a real person).
Oops I forgot to add
I'd also like to know what it is about Obama that you love. And also why are you comparing Gov Palin to Sen Obama and not Sen Biden.
oops - should be desert
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oops that should have gone down a few posts
regarding Michelle Bachmann