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oops got cut off...Her preaching/her words that are DISTURBING...SM

Posted By: no justifying this one on 2008-09-03
In Reply to: We could care less what anyone's pastors say, it's Palin's preachings/her words here that a - no justifying this one

to say the least!!!!

I don't agree with every single thing my pastor says.


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You are preaching to the choir here..
no Obama fan.
Preaching no premarital sex and then
letting those kids shack up in her home, sharing a room. This was the same person held in such high esteem by the religious right. Just does my heart good to hear about all this mess now. So glad Palin sent back to Alaska. She has enough mess on her hands there to TRY to take care of. Ha!
This man shouldn't be preaching to anyone.

Rev. Wright Says 'Them Jews' Won't Let Obama Talk to Him


The Rev. Jeremiah Wright says he doesn't have any regrets over his severed relationship with President Obama. 



FOXNews.com


Wednesday, June 10, 2009






In a racially charged interview, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright said that President Obama hasn't spoken to him since they parted ways last year, because "them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me." 

He suggested White House advisers were keeping the two separate. 


"Them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me. I told my baby daughter, that he'll talk to me in five years when he's a lame duck, or in eight years when he's out of office," Wright said, according to Virginia's Daily Press. "They will not let him ... talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is." 


Obama left Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago last year following the very public controversy over his inflammatory sermons. 


Wright sporadically has granted media interviews and made public appearances since. In the Daily Press article, he also claimed that the president did not send a delegation to the recent world racism conference in Geneva for fear of offending Jews. 


"Ethnic cleansing is going on in Gaza. Ethnic cleansing of the Zionist is a sin and a crime against humanity, and they don't want Barack talking like that because that's anti-Israel," Wright said. 


Wright said he voted for Obama in November and has no regrets over their severed relationship.


"Regret for what ... that the media went back five, seven, 10 years and spent $4,000 buying 20 years worth of sermons to hear what I've been preaching for 20 years?" he said. 


I'm sure Wright has been preaching similar sentiments
for the 20 years Obama has belonged to the church, implying IMO he agrees.

The political image/persona he's tried to build for himself (all politicians do it) has just been shot full of holes.

Knowing Wright's rhetoric why does he stay a member to this day??

If you've listened and watched the full sermon it is very disturbing, and I don't see any "cherry picking" in the media I so love to hate. That remark on Obama's part could be taken as his defending the diatribe.

I hope this bombshell doesn't go away - people need to know where Obama is really coming from.

Did you even read the thread at all? No preaching, no judging, ....sm
and I would never presume to tell ANYONE how to live, I know and acknowledge my sins, shortcomgings, weaknesses, and studities only too well. I hope it felt good to you to lash out like that, though. Defense of one's self when attacked is natural, and an explanation, and if you want to post hurtful and untrue stuff at me, well, enjoy yourself is all I can say. I have been many things in my life which I don't like, but hypocrite and judgemental has NEVER been two of those things, as God is my witness. Wow, sad for you.
Did you even read the thread at all? No preaching, no judging, ....sm
and I would never presume to tell ANYONE how to live, I know and acknowledge my sins, shortcomgings, weaknesses, and studities only too well. I hope it felt good to you to lash out like that, though. Defense of one's self when attacked is natural, and an explanation, and if you want to post hurtful and untrue stuff at me, well, enjoy yourself is all I can say. I have been many things in my life which I don't like, but hypocrite and judgemental has NEVER been two of those things, as God is my witness. Wow, sad for you.
Sorry, but Palin has been preaching about CUTTING SPENDING, what a double talker she is, she's a
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Disturbing

This is just 1 paragraph taken from a much longer article but it is something I did not know. This does not bode well for anyone. This is worse than Chalabi as informant and/or US hand-picked Iraqi statesman of some sort or the other.


Interestingly, some of the earliest suicide bombings commonly attributed to Hezbollah, such as the 1983 attacks on the US embassy and marine barracks in Beirut, were believed by American intelligence sources at the time to have been orchestrated by the Iraqi Dawa party. Hezbollah barely existed in 1983 and Dawa cadres are said to have been instrumental in setting it up at Tehran's behest. Dawa's current leadership includes none other than the new Iraqi prime minister, Nuri al-Maliki, feted last week in London and Washington as the great hope for the future of the Middle East. As the old saying goes, today's terrorist is tomorrow's statesman - at least when it suits us.


Disturbing

Hardly an American-like comment. 


I find it "interesting" that Obama won't meet McCain for a town hall setting at any military bases.  Anyone who is a POW for 5 years is more than a patriot.


This "meeting place" has become so "out there" I may as well be on the moReon, Huffpost, or Daily Kook sites!


This is clearly embarrassing.


Your responses are disturbing.
I don't believe I have ever seen a more angry and irrational person. 
If true this truly is disturbing
I watched this and sat in tears. If this is true its absolutely horrible. This is basically murder and everyone who doesn't help these babies live has played a part in their murder. How can this lady say she witnessed it and held the babies until they died with no emotion in her face or even a quiver in her voice. I'm not for Barack. There are a lot of disturbing things about him that have made me decide not to vote for him, but this I just cannot believe. It almost sounds like some skit someone wrote for this lady to recite. I know lots of nurses and have worked at lots of hospitals in different states and this is just something that is unheard of. I will still not be voting for Barack, but not because of this. It sounds like, and I believe, this is probably put out by the republicans and I just don't believe it. Nobody brings a baby somewhere and leaves them on a table in some room with a toilet in it for the baby to die when the baby is alive and just walk away. That is not hospital policy at any hospital I know of, and if I met this lady in person I would tell her she has no business being a nurse.

On the other hand I will also not be voting for McCain. If I hear him say in his condescending tone once more "my friends" I think I will put my boot through the TV. He also is not someone I trust.

Man do politics really suck!
What I find disturbing about this is
I believe the GOP is in shock, fractured, incapable of accepting defeat and pretty clueless about how to pick themselves up and put themselves back together. As a consequence and coupled with their gut-level adversion to Obama, I think we will be seeing a whole lot more of these desperate, destructive tactics for quite some time to come. It's sad, because if there were ever a time in recent history we need to be pulling together, that would be now.
Very disturbing concept.
I don't believe it will pass the constitutional smell test, but you're right to be concerned about the potential for abuse - i.e., being used against citizens in the name of "national security". This very possibility is the reason the military services are strictly prohibited from conducting anything but humanitarian operations within the contintental US. It is also one of the reasons we have never had a federal police agency (as opposed to federal investigative and special enforcement agencies).

The record of such paramilitary organizations in other countries is rife with examples of abuse and we should absolutely march in the streets if necessary to prevent such an organization from ever being formed in this country.
One thing I find VERY disturbing

is that there have been several posts on these boards in the past regarding the rampant child sexual abuse that happens in this country, and I've always been amazed how those on the right didn't post anything objecting to this.  I would think members of the party that claims to have all the *family values* in this country would be outraged at the sexual abuse of children, yet not a whimper of disgust from them.


Equally alarming is the fact that the leader of the Oregon Christian Coalition resigned recently because of charges that he sexually abused female family members, which, last time I checked, this was called INCEST.  I posted the the article concerning this, and again, you could hear the proverbial pin drop -- not one word of outrage.  Only one post from them, *winking* as they said *We should lock up all the evil perverted conservatives.* 


Is there something wrong with ME because I believe we SHOULD lock up all the *evil, perverted* people, whether they're conservatives or not?


Or is there something else more sinister going on within the Christian Coalition, where incest isn't really a big deal?  Given the consistent lack of outrage over this issue from conservatives, it makes me wonder. Makes me wonder what Harriet Miers' views are on this issue. 


America, what is happening to you???!!


Your anti-Americanism is disturbing. sm

*Sorry arses*   You compare the Revolutionary War to World War II.  You call names and label. You are violently nearly out of control with your anger and your very wording borders on horrendously out of control.  Do people really take you seriously in discussion. If so, why?


I find it rather disturbing that Obama
is wanting to control executive pay.  Why does our government have a right to tell people what they can make?  Besides, aren't these the same loser who get a raise every year no matter what.  How about we cap what these losers can make and get rid of their benefits and maybe they will actually start working for the American people and not their own person gain.  I'm so sick of our government.  Nothing but crooks!!!!
Those types of words are unnecessary and actually ARE racist words. sm
Those types of phrases are offensive and are intended to be offensive. This election should not be about race. If it is about race for you, then you are probably one of the ignorant people using those words. Very rude!!
Frankly gt you are pretty disturbing all by your lonesome. I'd like to think
there's only one of you.
Disturbing info about concentration camps in U.S.
Now, I know what you might be thinking - U.S. concentration camps?? Really the stuff of tin-foil hatters on the Internet fringe! I've been hearing about them for years but sort of wrote it all off as the wackiest of the wackiness out there - after all where are they? Who has seen them? Couldn't happen here.

So, I'm really not sure what to make of this - it's the third or fourth report I've heard recently and getting harder to ignore. Article:

____________________________
Early Warning! Is Bush Preparing to Wage War on Americans?

He has asserted his power to do so amid reports that there are some 800 detention camps throughout the US, staffed, as yet empty but ready for operation. Armed guards are reported to be in place. [ See: INN World Report (Free Speech TV), February 7 broadcast]

The official cover story is that FEMA maintains these facilities in the event of a mass influx of illegal immigrants or in case of national emergency. It is more likely, that the detention camps are created to house political subversives.

(1) The President is now claiming, and is aggressively exercising, the right to use any and all war powers against American citizens even within the United States, and he insists that neither Congress nor the courts can do anything to stop him or even restrict him.

—Glenn Greenwald: The NSA Fight Begins - Strategies for Moving Forward, The Huffington Post

The Pacific News Service meanwhile reports that Homeland Security had awarded a $385 million dollar contract to Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root to construct detention and processing facilities in the event of a national emergency.

http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/
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That's only part of the article but gives the gist of the story with several more references for the subject. I find it very chilling. Not surprising particularly, but still very chilling. Six years ago I didn't believe it at all. Now? I might!

No "witchhunt", just truth. Disturbing, isnt it?
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W's clueless response is equally as disturbing.
"So what if the guy threw his shoe at me?" Bush told a reporter in response to a question about the incident.

"Let me talk about the guy throwing his shoe. It's one way to gain attention. It's like going to a political rally and having people yell at you. It's like driving down the street and having people not gesturing with all five fingers. ...These journalists here were very apologetic. They ... said this doesn't represent the Iraqi people, but that's what happens in free societies where people try to draw attention to themselves."

So what? How many agree that this guy was seeking attention? Only on the W planet would the alleged leader of the free world be so unconscious and so casual about this deepest of insults. Who cares? Not W, evidently.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html

This shows a true and disturbing lack of knowledge regarding the Israeli
Arab conflict.  You surely realise that.  I hope this was a joke....an unfunny one at that.
You're right....words are just words...so are Obama's...
...and don't/won't mean anything to many people, myself included.

He is no MLK.

It is a historic moment, of that I have no doubt. And yes, he has come far.

However, one still needs to have strength of character to back the words up for true meaning, and he is sadly lacking in that area.


Nothing but words hon, and we know how Obama's words
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Oh MM, oops, I mean gt. SM
I think you have enough hate for the whole world.  I'll leave that to you.
Oops!

I see they also accused you of being me (and/or others) in your more current posts using the ?? moniker.  In reading your posts there, it was obvious you were sincerely looking for debate, and all you did was ask intelligent questions that should have led to an intelligent debate.  Instead it lead to more personal attacks and name calling, without EVER once addressing the ISSUE you were attempting to address.  I'm sorry you were treated so badly there.  You did nothing to deserve their wrath, other than act like a normal respectful human being with valid questions, and they have little tolerance for people like that. 


If you search further down on this board, you'll see where I attempted to debate one of them here well over a month ago.  The person, who I was fooled into believing was sincere about being here to debate, clearly didn't have any responses, though she promised to respond later and never did.  She had the golden opportunity to add something of value and continue the debate process I had begun, but she chose to ignore that and I suppose found more pleasure in insulting others, adding nothing of substance or value to this board, as they constantly do to their own board. 


They constantly accuse liberals on this board of being heinous people, their most favorite accusation seeming to be how hateful we all are, yet I think they honestly don't realize how hateful they come across constantly.  Or maybe they do.  Who knows?


Oops, try this one.sm
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/disowning-conservative-politics-is/20060729195809990005?ncid=NWS00010000000001
oops
that would be though they are all bad


Little Dem oops...
Y'know how the Democrats were so opposed to McCain's proposed holiday from the gas tax while gas was so high? Welllll....seems the Dem Nat'l Committee has not only been enjoying tax-free gas in Denver (site of convention), they have been getting it totally free on the front end because there is no signed contract in place to pay for the gas used (even it is tax free), they basically told the Denver mayor they were "good for it." Well, guess they can borrow from Barack if they get in a pinch...lol. The Mayor is the one who offered gas tax free...and seems the state of Colorado has taken exception to that, and the state revenue dept launched an investigation because that is a no-no...the state did not agree to wave the gas tax, and why did the Dems Natl Committee even agree to that when they had been totally against it for the rest of us out here struggling, even for a little gas tax holiday. LOL. Sooo typical. Do as we SAY America, NOT as we DO. Unnnbelievable. LOL. When asked about it, the mayor replied, obviously before having checked with the St. Paul people..."The Republicans are doing the same thing in St. Paul!" Well, number one, they aren't; but even if they were, that somehow makes it right? LOL. The Republicans were FOR a gas tax holiday. The Dems were against it. Well...except the Dem Natl Committee it seems. Heard a local Denver radio show talking about it. Seems not all Denverites, Dem and Repub alike, are impressed with this decision...go figure.
Oops. sm
I did research it...

His wife outed him.

Obama used the roundtable audience, as she did yesterday, to describe her husband's understanding of women's issues through the prism of the strong -- but sometimes struggling -- women in his life.

His own mother, she said at the beginning of her remarks, was "very young and very single when she had him." And, Obama added, he has observed his wife's attempts to reconcile motherhood with her career aspirations.

"He sees me, his wife, who struggles every day with that guilt that we all hold deep in our hearts as women," she said. "That guilt that you don't have the choice to stay home, and even if you do, you feel guilty."

"He has seen me struggle with this my entire life," she added. "Trust me, Barack understands the struggles of women."

Exactly diametrically opposite from things that have been posted here today.

I don't think Sarah Palin, OR Barack Obama's mother, deserve this kind of criticism.
Oops! nm
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oops
the one who received the disability within two months.... was "HEARING VOICES" .... whatever.... if you ask me, the only voice he has never heard was the one telling him to continue to be lazy and work the system.
Oops. (sm)

Sorry.  Didn't see that. 


Oops. big bad me
I made a <gasp> typo!  OMG I am the scourge of humanity.  No as a matter of fact I did not write in Nader.  Guess again.
Oops, message above

OOPS, THAT SHOULD BE REPUBLICAN!!! SORRY!!
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Oops,sorry about the typo. I should know better sm
after 25 years as an MT. 20 lashes with a wet noodle.
Oops, thought I was in the U.S.!!
And I guess peace ain't as popular as it used to be.....seems to be a really dirty word on this board.
Oops, please reverse the above!
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oops == There should be "This" sorry nm
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oops...that should be under-educated. (nm)
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Oops...should be see message not (nm)
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oops - some typos
I meant she does not consider people who do service-oriented jobs as human beings (otherwise she would not have made the comment that she is going to start considering the cleaning lady as a real person).
Oops I forgot to add
I'd also like to know what it is about Obama that you love. And also why are you comparing Gov Palin to Sen Obama and not Sen Biden.
oops - should be desert
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oops that should have gone down a few posts
regarding Michelle Bachmann
oops! someone recognized herself! are you
came back to see what's up on politics board, and its the same as 2 weeks ago. it's still boring here.

toodles,
oops - I meant they want us to get out - nm
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oops. That should be 'have' nm
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