my fate lies in the fact that my sins sm

• Why do you suppose the White House WON'T hold a - ceremony for Day of Prayer? I know, I know!!!
  • At this point, I really don't know - Trigger Happy
    • Also, I'd like to point out the - Trigger Happy
      • The rudeness actually came later - AnnuderMT
        • I do believe that there is a direct - Trigger Happy
          • Well.... - AnnuderMT
            • Why not just punish the person because...sm - passing thru
              • I'm with you--- - Kendra
      • Oh well crap...typo. - Trigger Happy
  • Let's not take it on ourselves to judge - the sincerity of anyone's beliefs.
  • No one knows.... - cj
    • Like the old saying goes........... sm - m
  • I do not get you! Obama converted to Christianity, what more - No
    • Yep, sitting in Rev Wright's church sure proved that - to me! NOT! nm
      • Be careful where you go with that logic - AnnuderMT
  • Obama attended only 4 years a school in Jakarata, Indonesia, - No
    • He was signed up for Islamic teachings 4 hours - a day, not Catholicism.... nm
      • Not quite- 2 years Catholic, 2 years Muslim. NM - AnnuderMT
        • 4 years Islamic teachings - nm
          • Are you really not getting this? - AnnuderMT
            • The catholic school offered several choices of - religious teachings! DUH!!
    • in Jakarta, Indonesia.....nm - No
  • The fact that there are people like you who actually . . . - disgusted
    • Rude and uncalled for. - Trigger Happy
    • It's not garbage; I'm just not one pulled around by a - nose ring like you are..... nm
      • I agree with the other poster. It IS garbage. - And I find your reference to a **nose ring**
        • People like you like to pull a race card all the - time, right? All you got? nm
  • You're whack. - webmt
  • I'm going with -- because they have more important things to do (nm) - Just the big bad
    • Yeah - taking over industries, destroying democratic principles, running - country into bankruptcy. They're VERY busy.
      • This is really beyond belief..and not just cuz I'm a a heathen - AnnuderMT
        • How can Obama have no blame? - Trigger Happy
    • I'm sure they - think so.
    • DING! DING!! DING!!! - We have a winner!
  • Because they're not dumb enough to be sucked in - by all that hypocracy and dogma?
    • Kindly have respect for those on the board - who are people of faith. How rude!
      • You don't have respect for - webmt
        • Joy Behar is not exactly a shining sm - Christian MT
      • It's pretty hard to respect bigots, holy rollers, and - those who hide bad intent behind "faith".
        • I will admit that there are - Trigger Happy
        • You and Karl Marx would have gotten along - famously.
          • Why strictly the topic of religion Mr. Trebek? - AnnuderMT
  • I actually don't really care what his faith is... - Kendra
    • I think he is sending America a message.......... sm - m
      • No, he's sending the Muslim community a - message.... America better wake up!!!
        • Only an uninformed person would still think he's Muslim. - Rolling my eyes at your ignorance
          • I agree! Obama was never a practicing Muslim - No
            • Oh yes, he WAS a practicing Muslim...... - do your homework.... nm
              • When? Only these four years, maybe, when he was - No
                • parents signed their child up for the religion teaching - of choice....theirs was Islam!
                  • not THEIRS, mother is American and Catholic, father and stepfather Muslim.. - No
                    • Stepfather adopted him as Muslim and he was signed up - for Islamic teaching..... nm
                  • His mother didn't enroll him for religious reasons - AnnuderMT
                    • she didn't have a choice....stepfather owned everything - about him in that country!
                      • But Barack's mother decided to send her son, when he was 11 - No
          • Why are you so quick to believe he isn't is the - bigger question..... yes, HE IS!!
            • I'm flabbergasted - AnnuderMT
              • I totally agree with you!......nm - No
              • Wow....you're watching too many movies hon! - sm
                • for 'sm' : Obama's education..... - No
                  • Obama acknowledged attending a Muslim school... sm - m
                    • Your 'side' of research is the wrong one....Read this.. - No
                      • If you want to accept............ sm - m
                        • Hahahaha! Why should we then believe what you are blogging is the tTRUTH! LMAO!...nm - No
                          • Or what you are blogging, for that matter........ nm - m
                            • You are being childish, YOU said that blogging - No
                      • He attended only 4 years in this Catholic School in Jakarta, - No
                    • Going to a Muslim school doesn't make him Muslim - AnnuderMT
                      • I could not agree more with your posts!.....nm - No
                      • I couldn't agree more with your opinion - that his education and family life
                • I'm guessing all she has to do is read - this board every day and witness
                • Not all presidents do have a gathering - AnnuderMT
          • And why, pray tell, is that? sm - m
      • My concern lies more with the lying than the faith... - Kendra
        • I agree with you and that - Trigger Happy
        • Kendra, you need to read up on Muslim schools in - this country...........sm
          • And I'll say it again... - Kendra
          • Do you really not see the hypocrisy? - AnnuderMT
            • The other poster did not say anything.......... sm - m
        • What lie? He said he's Christian. - You people make up lies about
          • And I did say that aI do not know... - Kendra
            • NO! Your post above: **My concern lies more with - the lying than the faith**
              • I suppose that if you did not read the whole post... - Kendra
                • If you are stating that he is lying, then - you and I don't agree.
                  • Again--read the whole post... - Kendra
                  • Where do I begin?? sm - m
                    • Maybe you could begin in another thread. - The topic on this thread is National
                      • I didn't say lying made him a Muslim.......... sm - m
          • Freedom of religion? Since when is teaching hate a - religion? nm
            • Ask the people who watch - webmt
              • OMG! ! ! Have you ever been brain- - MTfromLA
                • Aren't people like that pathetic? FOX News is the - best. -and you cant change haters -sad people.nm
              • Oh, then those people watching - sm
                • No, they tell the TRUTH!!! - webmt
            • The only ones teaching hate are people - like you. He is NOT a Muslim yet
              • I don't hate anyone. There is a sm - MT30+
                • Nothing wrong with Hate.. - Patty
                  • Thanks for the kind words nm - MT30+
                • Because YOU would like to see ME in heaven, the - TRUTH is there is only one way...
                  • why is it that the Christians are self-righteous sm - MT30+
                    • Nobody asked you to **deny** your Lord and - Savior. You have every right to
                      • I would never tell you to walk lock-step - sbMT
                    • Once again misinterpreting - AnnuderMT
                      • That is contradictory to what our faith teaches - sbMT
                      • GOOD GRIEF! FINALLY!!! - THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!
                      • you don't upset me nearly as much sm - MT30+
                        • WHAT proof do you have, that this what you are - No
                          • Would it matter? - sbMT
                            • This is what every faithful person says about HIS religion, - No
                              • Oh there is gonna be one religion and sm - MT30+
                                • How do you know? Are you psychic? Can you make prophecies...how can you talk like this, - No
                                  • read the books of Daniel and sm - MT30+
                              • Only one religion is what they're demanding. - Otherwise, nobody gets into heaven.
                                • Not quite right............. sm - m
                              • This, too, will come to pass............ sm - m
                          • I have the inerrant, infallible word of God sm - MT30+
                • I knew you sucked... - webmt
                  • You see, you are really sick. No adult - MTfromLA
                  • well if I "suck" as you call it for sm - MT30+
                  • geez louise.. - dnh
              • you are so blinded you don't even sm - MT30+
                • And I hope God puts some love and - tolerance in your heart. I'll pray for you.
                  • Tolerance is - sbMT
                    • sbMT I pray the other poster will sm - MT30+
                    • Having read your posts, if you were near me - and I was about to walk in front of a
                      • My biggest problem with religion - Trigger Happy
                        • It made lots of sense, and it's something - I believe, as well since there are
                        • Respectfully this is the difference between sm - MT30+
                          • Okay...then let me ask you this. - Trigger Happy
                            • my fate lies in the fact that my sins sm - MT 30+
                            • At least in Catholicism - AnnuderMT
                              • I don't know about the catholic Bible sm - MT 30+
                                • Yup, been there, done that, got the shirt - AnnuderMT
                                  • The Bakkers and the Haggards are sm - MT 30+
                                    • Toss the Catholics under the bus - AnnuderMT
                      • That's your choice - sbMT
                        • And Obama chose to be Christian, - just like you. The only difference
                          • I didn't claim exclusivity - sbMT
                            • beautiful post! nm - MT30+
                          • Messenger, yes................. sm - m
                          • that's great Muslims believe Jesus was a - Christian MT
                        • AMEN SISTER! nm - MT30+
            • Ask Rev. Fred Phelps...he's got it mastered - AnnuderMT

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Got a bunch of sins, according to your Bible.  Looks like you're sinning all over the place dear - Got a million more if you want em.

accusing - Jude 9:2

arguing - Titus 3:9

bitterness - Acts 8:23

not receiving a child of God sent by God - Mark 6:11

speaking against God's children - Act 2:28

thinking evil in your heart against God's children - Matthew 9:4

busybodies - Timothy 5:13

condemning - Luke 6:37

foolish conversation - Eph 5:4

Remember this from back in June???  There were several more after this one, also, requesting libs stick to libs board and cons stick to cons board.  What part don't you understand? 

You surely are an idiot and you lie.  Stay off the board and slink back to your pack of liars. 

How about we suggest a no-lying board.  Oh yes, there is one already.  It's called the liberal board.

This page is for the use of Conservatives. Please do not bash their posts. There are other boards

Posted By: Administrator (sm) on 2005-06-29,

where you can post your views.  For example, if you are Liberal, post on the Liberals board, etc. 

Thank you,

Administrator

I've never seen gt post on the CON board, have you?

The only folks on the CON board who were noted to be acting like kids/teenagers were the CONS. 

Truth is welcomed here.  Please take any untruths back to the CON board or better yet, keep them yourself.  It's only fair and right, correct?

10. “I have been very candid about my past.”

9. “I’m a uniter not a divider.”

8. “My plan unlocks the door to the middle class of millions of hard-working Americans.”

7. “This allows us to explore the promise and potential of stem cell research.”

6. “We must uncover every detail and learn every lesson of September the 11th.”

5. “[We are] taking every possible step to protect our country from danger.”

4. “I first got to know Ken [Lay in 1994].”

3. “Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.” And, “[Saddam Hussein is] a threat because he is dealing with AL Qaeda.”

2. “We found the weapons of mass destruction.”

1. “It’s time to restore honor and dignity to the White House.”

This is a great post.  I agree with gourdpainter.  A lot of people ask me why I am not voting for McCain and I tell them because he lies.  People always say to me that all politicians lie.  I then inform them that Obama is different than most politicians and he isn't a liar.  They laugh but when I ask them to name something he has lied about, they can't think of anything.  Remember in the debate when McCain said Obama was seeking a $3 million earmark for an overhead projector?  That wasn't just any overhead projector - it was for the Adler Planetarium.  Imagine all the education children receive from that planetarium too.  It amazes me when some of you try to make Obama out to be so sinister.

Do you believe evrything they put in your mouth?

...and have you noticed how she's parsing her words ala Bill Clinton?  Depends on the meanings of 'used,' 'would be used,' 'may be used,' 'has not been used' are. 

Typical politician prevarication.  They never expect to be caught and when they are they backpedal to beat the band.  Does she really think we're stupid enough to believe she was briefed on waterboarding as an example of a practice we would not be using?  Would she like us to believe she was so stupid she did not understand the importance of what she was shown?  Either way, not a ringing endorsement of Ms. Pelosi.  God knows the power mad creature has made few friends in either party over the years.  Wonder of her party will use this as a way to disgrace her and get the reins out of her hands.  Can't wait to see how this plays out. 

but this one is actually funny!

http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/003008.html

I was able to get the link to work.  You were not.  So something is wrong with me. 

So typical.

What a huge difference it is!

That between OBSESSION and normal ordinary use.  Tee-hee!!!!

McCain created the DoNotCall list:

• Lie 8/17/08: "2003 – McCain led in creating the FTC’s ‘Do-Not-Call’ telemarketing registry"
  
• Truth: FTC Chairman Tim Muris announced in October 2001 that the FTC was going to create the Do Not Call list

McCain co-authored the CAN-SPAM Act:

• Lie 8/17/08: "2003 - McCain co-authored the CAN-SPAM Act to regulate the sending of unsolicited commercial e-mail (”spam”) 
  
• Truth: According to the Library of Congress, three Republicans and four Democratic senators introduced the CAN-SPAM bill in 2003. John McCain was not one of them.

Obama would increase capital gains taxes on 100 million Americans

• Lie 4/20/08: "Senator Obama says that he doesn’t want to raise taxes on anybody over — making over $200,000 a year, yet he wants to nearly double the capital gains tax. Nearly double it, which 100 million Americans have investments in — mutual funds, 401(k)s — policemen, firemen, nurses. He wants to increase their taxes."
  
• Truth: "Investments contained in 401-K's (Or in the case of 'policemen, firemen' usually a 403-B), pensions, IRAs, tax deferred variable annuities, and similar retirement vehicles aren't subject to capital gains tax -- they're not taxed at all. Changing the capital gains tax rate will have zero effect on them. Withdrawals from tax deferred accounts by retirees are generally taxed at whatever the income tax rate is for that person at the time of withdrawal (Which, incidentally, is usually a heck of a lot more than the current long term capital gains tax rate, yet another way to rip off the middle class)." 

By LARRY ROHTER

updated 9:52 p.m. ET, Wed., Sept. 10, 2008

DAYTON, Ohio - Escalating its efforts to portray Senator Barack Obama as a candidate whose values fall outside the mainstream, the campaign of Senator John McCain on Tuesday unveiled a new television advertisement claiming that Mr. Obama, the Democratic nominee, favors “comprehensive sex education” for kindergarten students.

“Learning about sex before learning to read?” the narrator asks in the 30-second advertisement, which the campaign says will be shown in battleground states and on national cable. The commercial also asserts that a sex-education bill introduced in Illinois, which Mr. Obama did not sponsor and which never became law, is his “one accomplishment” in the field of education.

Both sets of accusations, however, seriously distort the record.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26649779/

can be verified.  People who want to know the truth should do their own research and not just believe what some people on this board would like them to believe. 

I come (used to come) to this board to hear about the candidates.  Instead all I'm reading lately is posters attacking others for posting their viewpoints.  Someone posts something about Obama and the O supporters attack them "lies" they call them.  They don't defend Obama but instead insult and attack the poster.  Then they come out and say "oh poor me, you just hate Obama, your so insulting" while at the same time calling them every name in the book.  What I'm hearing is the republicans are trying to shed some light on what Obama is but some of the democrats don't want to hear it and already exclaim that Obama has won.  They are condescending towards anyone who has a different viewpoint than theirs.  They won't read anything that has negative things to say about Obama and they won't read anything that has anything positive to say about McCain.  It's just hate-filled spew that comes out.  You'll cite polls if they favor Obama, and if they favor McCain you ignore them.  You won't even admit that the race is too close to call.  In your minds Obama has already won the election.  You'll support cheating if it favors Obama and condemn it if it favors McCain.  You'd rather live your lives having government regulate your lives, tell you what you can and cannot do, and take all your money to give a check to the people who are able to work but won't because why should they since they are receiving a check from government, while you are being told its your patriotic duty to give to these poor fellow Americans.  You'd rather have an inexperienced radical person running the country than someone who has experience and has shown by his voting record that he fights for the American people.  Yet not giving any reason (being older is not a reason).  I have not yet read any posts that are positive reasons for Obama being president, just hate-filled garbage against Palin.  Also makes me wonder why people are trying to keep Biden out of the spotlight.  Makes me want to find out more about what he's done in the past.

So I have decided to give the board a rest for awhile and will be back to vist after the election is over.  I'm no longer getting any valuable information here.  We have not had an election yet.  The polls are too close to call and even then you can't rely on the polls to give you accurate information (after all these polls are incuding all the dead people, pets, Santa Claus, Mary Poppins, Rama Dama Ding Dong, and all the other fictitious people, not to mention the people who registered 13 and 14 times or more as a democrat) in their polls.  I remember back in 2000 everyone was claiming Gore had won the election and it was very very close and look what happened.  He lost.

I will also continue to listen to all stations, and read all articles so I can at least get a fair and balance opinion of what is going on. 

So have at it y'all.  You seem to love attacking people for no reason and when I read these posts I can really feel the negativity and hatred oozing.  So maybe I'll just stick to the Gab board - I need some more positive vibes. 

P.S. - Just one more note.  Whoever wins will win, and whether it is democrat or republican we will deal with it.  When a democrat has won in the past there were no riots, republicans continued to try to work with the democrats, but we all know what happened the last two times a republican won.  As for the threats of "if Obama doesn't win there's going to be rioting in the streets".  Well if that does happen that goes to show you how many biggots wanted him in just because he's black - all the things they claim don't matter will come out.

Is Pelosi telling the truth or just trying to keep herself out of hot water? 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090514/ap_on_go_co/us_pelosi_torture

Gore criticizes Cheney for answering the scurrilous crap that the Democrats have been piling on Bush, saying "I waited two years before criticizing Bush".

Umm...not quite, Internet Breath.  Here's the link to the speech he made in ༾ trashing Bush, Cheney and the cabinet - calling them "un-American".  (Bush took office in ༽.)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/05/15/flashback_gore_calls_bush_policies_un-american_in_2002_speech.html

http://olbroad.com/2008/08/26/temper-temper/

see the commentary below the video as well.

1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”

4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.

5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.

6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.

7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false

8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.

9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.

10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.

12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.

13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”

14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.