love you, canada!!

Do you have any insight to share with us about Sarah Palin's extensive foreign policy experience, she being Gov in a state that borders on both CANADA and RUSSIA? 

Also, please realize there are many people here that also think we are nuts and are working very hard to clean out the mess we have been in the last 8 years. 

• Demoguttercratic politics... - sam
  • Being an objective observer, the repugnants appear to be the most evil. - Surely you jest.
    • Spoken like a true UNeducated person. Generalize some more. - Objective my a$$. sm
    • LOVED the tick comparison! - Ticks they ARE,
      • Amazing...absolutely amazing... - sam
        • Well heavens-to-betsy! You are just SO - above us all in your pseudo-righteousness.
          • I think you already have someone to light candles and pray to... - sam
            • So.... Sam! A question here. You've retorted to every - post on this board. Do you actually.... WORK?
              • Yes. I multitask and you all inspire me. nm - sam
    • Objective?? ROFL..... - sam
      • This observation is made by a Canadian MT. - We think you republicans are STRANGE. (NM)
        • love you, canada!! - tootie
        • A Canadian thinks someone else is strange. - Good one, eh? nm
          • Typical, make a nasty comment and run. You have no credibility with anyone with any brains. nm - oldtimer
            • Oldtimer - I enjoy your - tootie
            • Excuse me? So it's only allowed to say bad things - about republicans? sm
              • I did not mean typical of either party, just what I see as typical on - this board. nm
                • Thanks, that's good to hear. - Had me worried there. sm
        • The "world" says vote Obama... - sam
          • In case you aren't aware (and I doubt you are) - 'the World' is smarter than you.
          • MYOB - tootie
        • Doesn't work that way. - sm
          • First of all, - sm
            • if McCain gets in - tootie
  • Hey Sambo. How bout that AIP speech. - More gutter politics, or harsh dose of reality? n
    • I listened to the speech. It probably sounded a lot like the one Obama.. - sam
      • you state "probably" and then - ttp
        • I repeat...she mentioned upholding the Alaskan... - sam
          • Really, do you not - shameonit
            • I also prove posts wrong here daily... - sam
              • come on, don't keep stealing - tootie
              • Is that your mission in life? To try to prove that - everyone else in the world is wrong?
                • No more than any of the Dem posters on this board.... - sam
                  • cant accept any responsibility - tootie
          • Bill Clinton is a murderer -- oh I - ttp
            • I did not say Bill Clinton was a murderer... - sam
              • well if you are from - shameonit
                • Now that makes all kinds of sense. Sheesh. I am sure murders occur... - sam
  • We learned it from you guys - nm
    • Check the threads below....all you all the time.... - sam
      • My biggest problem with the 'pubs is you guys ain't - got no sense of HUMOR.
        • No, you dems just ain't funny. - Stop acting like you know something. nm
        • I can't speak for "pubs" ....I'm not one.... - sam
          • Oh, REALLY? Like you guys don't start to -sm - ?
            • Look....you can deny all you want to and of course you will... - sam
        • Afer 8 years of W, nation deserves good chuckle. - Good times, too. As we saw at DNC...sm
          • Democrat hasn't won the presidency yet. - Can't wait until they do, though. sm
          • Yes, I have seen in the past few days the kind of party dems like to throw... - sam
            • Like I said, ' PAR-TAY' !!!!! - And then par-tay some more.
          • After 8 yrs. of the Dubster, you better believe it's - time to PAR-TAY!

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the bit about the open microphone on McCain during the debate was brilliant!!! I laughed until I literally cried!!  By the way, Michelle Obama was warm, intelligent, sincere and very much First Lady material!!!

The Democrats' decline

by Klaus Rohrich

September 9, 2004

The leftist protesters that attempted to shut down Fox News Network in New York Last week are a crystal clear illustration of just how totalitarian and desperate these poor wretches have become. Sporting a philosophy that was killed by President Ronald Reagan in 1999, but had lost any claim to legitimacy long before that, they stormed Fox News’ offices chanting, "Shut up Fox News".

Dressed in a variety of bizarre costumes such as those sported by their "Code Pink" and the "Inferno Noise Brigade" cohorts, the group is evocative of the Nazi storm troopers that frequented Germany in the 1930s. Like the storm troopers of yesteryear, these storm troopers are also attempting to silence voices that do not agree with them. Their effort to "shut up Fox News" is the moral equivalence of burning books.

I have long been fascinated with the mixed messages emanating from the left. On the one hand, they are in favour of extending freedom to everyone, except people with whom they disagree. In this case I imagine they would have no problem imprisoning those who dared to disagree. It’s clear that the left has been highjacked and relegated to the lunatic fringe. I can’t imagine any other reason why people dressed as carrots would show up at their demonstrations.

But more importantly, who can take these people seriously? It appears that the Democratic Party has managed to attract every way-out radical leftie in North America. No wonder serious Democrats such as Zell Miller are deserting the Party in droves.

The Democrats are the party of John F. Kennedy and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, both of whom have left an indelible mark in the history of the United States. The former for his bold civil rights initiatives and the tax cuts that created one of the longest periods of prosperity in recent history, while the latter helped Americans pull themselves out of the Great Depression by their bootstraps and faced the most destructive war in history. Today’s most recent democratic presidents have left bodies in the Iranian desert and stains on an intern’s dress. Oh, how the mighty have fallen!

It’s curious to note that their fight to regain control of the House of Representatives, the Senate and the Presidency is largely waged with lies, half-truths and innuendo. Imagine, taking Michael Moore’s allegations seriously, or listening to anything that Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia has to say! Byrd is a former Ku Klux Klansman who has seen the light and became a luminary of the Democratic Party. He’s also the poster boy for all that’s wrong with American politics, given the pork-barrel payoffs he has managed to wangle for his state at the expense of the American taxpayer. He is famous for a recent radio interview during which he used the N-word not once, not twice, but three times. But that seems to be okay with his cohorts, who bend themselves into pretzels trying to prove that the Republicans are racist.

Another fine specimen of Democratic legerdemain is Ted Kennedy, the senior senator from Massachusetts. This flatulent, besotted has-been is famous for midnight swims and his ability to consume vast quantities of alcohol. Then there is Hillary Clinton, whose billing practices at the Rose law firm cost Web Hubbell his career. She was such an astute investor in the cattle futures market that she managed to turn an investment of $1,000 into $100,000 in just over a year, which any futures trader will admit is totally unbelievable. (I realize most of this is innuendo, but maybe the Dems deserve a taste of their own medicine.)

It’s too bad that this has happened to the Democratic Party, because they once were a grand party that moved America into a direction of which they could be proud. Today’s Democratic initiatives sound like Karl Marx wrote them. And they’re wondering why people are deserting them in droves.

Most modern Democrats believe that the reason they are losing ground is because their message isn’t getting across to their constituents. I believe the exact opposite is true. Americans are listening to the things Democrats are saying and then voting Republican. Certainly this has been consistently so at the state and local level.

But think about it: how long can you talk about the inequities of poverty without having someone say "shut up already". After all, the Dems were in power for over 40 years and haven’t managed to win their war on poverty. They are telling African Americans that their lives are miserable because they do not have the same opportunities as Whites. Again, what did the Dems to for black people all those years they were in power? Many African Americans are beginning to understand that it’s the Dems who are managing the plantation, and are looking towards the GOP as an alternative.

One of the reasons that the Democrats haven’t totally perished as a party is the fact that America’s entertainment elite is heavily supporting them. However, that isn’t going to sustain them philosophically, as the population at large is starting to become aware of the foibles, intellectual shortcomings and freak show attributes of people like Barbra Streisand, Whoopie Goldberg and the rest of the Hollywood glitterati.

It’s a fact that the mainstream has shifted to the right. Rather than take their hint from the voters, the Dems are turning into an agglomeration of wing nuts and special interests. Their party has become a centrifuge for loony tunes and outré ideologies. Their decline will continue until they finally get it.

though I've heard some stories to the contrary.  However, I have no confidence in the US government putting in place anything that is:  A)  Efficient.  B)  Humane.  C)  Cost effective.  Instead, it will be the usual bureaucratic power grab and a means to micromanage our lives just a bit more.  Our government has too long a history of mucking up everything it tries to run. 

As for where the doctors are going, I personally know of two who hold positions as heads of QA at MTSOs, and these are not retirement-age individuals.  Doctors may make as much money being 'detail' people for drug companies - without the weekends and malpractice issues.  There are doctors in media who no longer practice, but do medical features.  There are doctors who no longer practice and are consultants to law firms. Some doctors have become lawyers (talk about going over to the dark side.)  There are doctors who go into hospital management and no longer practice.

Soldiers flee to Canada to avoid Iraq duty

During the Vietnam war between 50,000 and 60,000 Americans crossed the border to avoid serving.

This must be why you so obviously love Muslims? 

You do realize that you contradict yourself on just about every other post you make?  ROFL..

By Richard Morin and Dan Balz
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, November 4, 2005; A01

For the first time in his presidency a majority of Americans question the integrity of President Bush, and growing doubts about his leadership have left him with record negative ratings on the economy, Iraq and even the war on terrorism, a new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows.

On almost every key measure of presidential character and performance, the survey found that Bush has never been less popular with the American people. Currently 39 percent approve of the job he is doing as president, while 60 percent disapprove of his performance in office -- the highest level of disapproval ever recorded for Bush in Post-ABC polls.

Virtually the only possible bright spot for Bush in the survey was generally favorable, if not quite enthusiastic, early reaction to his latest Supreme Court nominee, Samuel A. Alito Jr. Half of Americans say Alito should be confirmed by the Senate, and less than a third view him as too conservative, the poll found.

Overall, the survey underscores how several pillars of Bush's presidency have begun to crumble under the combined weight of events and White House mistakes. Bush's approval ratings have been in decline for months, but on issues of personal trust, honesty and values, Bush has suffered some of his most notable declines. Moreover, Bush has always retained majority support on his handling of the U.S. campaign against terrorism -- until now, when 51 percent have registered disapproval.

The CIA leak case has apparently contributed to a withering decline in how Americans view Bush personally. The survey found that 40 percent now view him as honest and trustworthy -- a 13 percentage point drop in the past 18 months. Nearly 6 in 10 -- 58 percent -- said they have doubts about Bush's honesty, the first time in his presidency that more than half the country has questioned his personal integrity.

The indictment Friday of I. Lewis Scooter Libby, Vice President Cheney's former chief of staff, in the CIA leak case added to the burden of an administration already reeling from a failed Supreme Court nomination, public dissatisfaction with the economy and continued bloodshed in Iraq. According to the survey, 52 percent say the charges against Libby signal the presence of deeper ethical wrongdoing in the administration. Half believe White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, the president's top political hand, also did something wrong in the case -- about 6 in 10 say Rove should resign.

Beyond the leak case, Americans give the administration low scores on ethics, according to the survey, with 67 percent rating the administration negatively on handling ethical matters, while just 32 percent give the administration positive marks. Four in 10 -- 43 percent -- say the level of ethics and honesty in the federal government has fallen during Bush's presidency, while 17 percent say it has risen.

Faced with its cascade of recent setbacks, the White House is hoping the latest court nomination can rally disaffected conservatives and score the president a victory akin to the one he enjoyed in the nomination of Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. Alito begins the confirmation process with the support of 49 percent of the public, while 29 percent say he should not be confirmed, the poll found. One in 5 Americans -- 22 percent -- did not yet know enough about him to make a judgment.

The dissatisfaction with Bush flows in part out of broad concerns about the overall direction of the country. Nearly 7 in 10 -- 68 percent -- believe the country is seriously off course, while only 30 percent are optimistic, the lowest level in more than nine years. Only 3 in 10 express high levels of confidence in Bush, while half say they have little or no confidence in this administration.

Just 35 percent of those surveyed rated the economy as either excellent or good, with 65 percent describing it as not so good or poor. Although the government reported last week that gross domestic product rose 3.8 percent in the last quarter, despite the effects of Hurricane Katrina, 29 percent of those surveyed said they regard the economy as poor, the highest recorded during Bush's presidency.

Attitudes toward Bush are sharply polarized by party, as they have been throughout his presidency. Almost 8 in 10 -- 78 percent -- of Republicans support the president, while just 11 percent of Democrats rate him positively. Republicans long have been the key to Bush's overall strength, but Bush has suffered some defections since the beginning of the year, when 91 percent approved of the way he was handling his job.

Among independents, Bush's approval has plummeted since the beginning of the year. In the latest poll, 33 percent of independents approved of his performance, while 66 percent disapproved. In January, independents were evenly divided, with 49 percent approving and an equal percentage disapproving.

The intensity of Bush's support has changed since his reelection a year ago, with opponents deepening their hostility toward the administration. In the latest survey, 47 percent said they strongly disapprove of the way he was performing in office, compared with 35 percent who expressed strong disapproval in January. At the same time, the percentage who say they strongly approve of his performance has fallen from 33 percent last January to 20 percent today.

Iraq remains a significant drag on Bush's presidency, with dissatisfaction over the situation there continuing to grow and with suspicion rising over whether administration officials misled the country in the run-up to the invasion more than two years ago.

Nearly two-thirds disapprove of the way Bush is handling the situation there, while barely a third approve, a new low. Six in 10 now believe the United States was wrong to invade Iraq, a seven-point increase in just over two months, with almost half the country saying they strongly believe it was wrong.

About 3 in 4 -- 73 percent -- say there have been an unacceptable level of casualties in Iraq. More than half -- 52 percent -- say the war with Iraq has not contributed to the long-term security of the United States.

The same percentage -- 52 percent -- says the United States should keep its military forces in Iraq until civil order is restored, and only about 1 in 5 -- 18 percent -- say the United States should withdraw its forces immediately. In the week after U.S. deaths in Iraq passed the 2,000 mark, a majority of those surveyed -- 55 percent -- said the United States is not making significant progress toward stabilizing the country.

The war has taken a toll on the administration's credibility: A clear majority -- 55 percent -- now says the administration deliberately misled the country in making its case for war with Iraq -- a conflict that an even larger majority say is not worth the cost.

The president's handling of terrorism was widely regarded among strategists as the key to his winning a second term last year. But questions about Bush's effectiveness on other fronts have also depreciated this asset. His 48 percent approval now compares with 61 percent approval on this issue at the time of his second inauguration, down from a 2004 high of 66 percent.

Bush also set new lows in the latest Post-ABC News poll for his management of the economy, where disapproval topped 60 percent for the first time in his presidency. And 6 in 10 are critical of the way Bush is dealing with health care -- a double-digit increase since March. On gasoline prices, Bush's numbers have increased slightly over the past two months but still remain highly negative, with just 26 percent rating him positively.

The survey suggests a rapidly widening gulf between Bush and the American people. Two in 3 say Bush does not understand the problems of people like them, a 10 percentage point increase since January.

Nearly 6 in 10 -- 58 percent -- doubt Bush shares their values, while 40 percent say he does, another new low for this president. For the first time since he took office, fewer than half -- 47 percent -- said Bush is a strong leader, and Americans divided equally over whether Bush can be trusted in a crisis.

Told of the poll results, Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman said Bush will rally support through such issues as education reform, changes to the tax code, and a new energy strategy to show the public that he will continue to push for changes in our government to serve the American people.

A total of 1,202 randomly selected adults were interviewed Oct. 30-Nov. 2 for this survey. Margin of sampling error for the overall results is plus or minus three percentage points

This has not been broken since 9/11/01, please keep it going...
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IF I KNEW

If I knew it would be the last time
That I'd see you fall asleep,
I would tuck you in more tightly
and pray the Lord, your soul to keep.

If I knew it would be the last time
that I see you walk out the door,
I would give you a hug and kiss
and call you back for one more.

If I knew it would be the last time
I'd hear your voice lifted up in praise,
I would video tape each action and word,
so I could play them back day after day.

If I knew it would be the last time,
I could spare an extra minute
to stop and say I love you,
instead of assuming you would KNOW I do.

If I knew it would be the last time
I would be there to share your day,
Well I'm sure you'll have so many more,
so I can let just this one slip away.

For surely there's always tomorrow
to make up for an oversight,
and we always get a second chance
to make everything just right.

There will always be another day BR>to say I love you,
And certainly there's another chance
to say our Anything I can do?

But just in case I might be wrong,
and today is all I get,
I'd like to say how much I love you
and I hope we never forget.

Tomorrow is not promised to anyone,
young or old alike,
And today may be the last chance
you get to hold your loved one tight.

So if you're waiting for tomorrow,
why not do it today?
For if tomorrow never comes,
you'll surely regret the day,

That you didn't take that extra time
for a smile, a hug, or a kiss
and you were too busy to grant someone,
what turned out to be their one last wish.

So hold your loved ones close today,
and whisper in their ear,
Tell them how much you love them
and that you'll always hold them dear

Take time to say I'm sorry,
Please forgive me, Thank you, or It's okay.
And if tomorrow never comes,
you'll have no regrets about today.

But a speech like that would mean that Bush is being honest, and that can only happen in our dreams... sigh...

finding that people who are normally neutral (in public) have been talking out lately about  our situation here at home. Keith Olberman usually was quite funny most of the time, but not of late. He has issued some scathing comments directed at the ineptitude of the administration and their outright refusal to do anything about it, even acknowledge it. Joe Scarborough has been talking up the administration's mess as well. There comes a point when, no matter what side you are on, the truth is so enormously in your face that you must address it if you want to maintain any kind of credibility at all. It heartens me to see people who are not progressives, Democrats, liberals, whatever, stand up and say these people have crossed too many lines too many times. It is not okay. I really believe the protesters or dissenters or those asking questions being likened to Nazi appeasers was the last straw for a lot of people.  Oh, and by the way, it seems the U.S. has lost Anbar province to Al-Qaeda and have no hope of getting it back. This happened in August. Anbar province is 50,000 square miles. How's that going to play in Peoria.

Cheny on Meet the Press....talk about pretzel logic. He made no sense whatsoever.  He said we would have gone to Iraq even if we knew they had no WMD (which of course they did know) anyway. Then he said Iraq did have them. Then he said he wouldn't address this and wouldn't address that and he didn't remember, yadda yadda yadda. And W. That interview with Matt Lauer creeped me out. He kept getting closer and closer and in Matt's face and putting his hands on Matt. I thought he was going to start finger thumping Matt's chest. and start an actual fist fight; he was that stressed when he could not answer why if what we are doing in secret prisons is legal, then why can't we do it here?  Good question. I used to feel that it was us against them, the Bush people versus everyone else but I truly now feel that it is the Bush administration against the whole country. It is really really frightening.

people post stuff like this and then someone replies with facts instead of just sarcasm and insults!  Great post and well said!