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Posted By: long time MT on 2009-05-09
In Reply to: Grandpa was a farmer.......... sm - m
money from it he must have paid taxes and paid into SS somehow. If not, she would not be eligible for SS benefits.
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Farmer is lying to you.....
That is the number one excuse given by employers when their hiring of illegals became so prevalent that everyone was noticing their jobs were going away.
What else were they going to say.....I just wanted to hire illegals because they work for less than minimum wage, I don't pay taxes on them, and they won't report me because they're illegal!!?
Not to mention the Workers Comp break they get. An illegal gets hurt and they just go to the free care clinic, get treated, and walk away.....or to the local ER where they get treatment and I end up paying for it because they have no insurance....heck, they don't have to produce anything yet ANYONE else has to start pulling out their SS#, drivers license, or SOMETHING to prove they are who they say they are......
what a crock!!!!!!!!
Grandpa was a farmer.......... sm
Although he made his cotton and peanut crops every year, he never worked a public job in his life either.
Everything is great in Iraq, just ask a farmer....
The USDA on Iraq: Everything's Coming Up Rosy
By Al Kamen
Monday, May 8, 2006; A17
Career appointees at the Department of Agriculture were stunned last week to receive e-mailed instructions that include Bush administration talking points -- saying things such as President Bush has a clear strategy for victory in Iraq -- in every speech they give for the department.
The President has requested that all members of his cabinet and sub-cabinet incorporate message points on the Global War on Terror into speeches, including specific examples of what each agency is doing to aid the reconstruction of Iraq, the May 2 e-mail from USDA speechwriter Heather Vaughn began.
The e-mail, sent to about 60 undersecretaries, assistant secretaries and other political appointees, was also sent to a few people to whom it should not have gone, said the department's communications director, Terri Teuber . The career people, we are assured, are not being asked to spread the great news on Iraq in their talks to food stamp recipients, disadvantaged farmers, enviros or other folks.
The e-mail provided language being used by Secretary [Michael O.] Johanns and deputy secretary [Charles F.] Conner in all of their remarks and is being sent to you for inclusion in your speeches.
Another attachment contains specific examples of GWOT messages within agriculture speeches. Please use these message points as often as possible and send Harry Phillips , USDA's director of speechwriting, a weekly email summarizing the event, date and location of each speech incorporating the attached language. Your responses will be included in a weekly account sent to the White House.
This scoreboard, of course, will ensure you give it your best shot.
Now, you might still be scratching your heads, trying to figure out how this is going to work when people expect a talk about agriculture issues. Not to worry. The attachments -- which can be viewed at http://www.washingtonpost.com/fedpage -- show how easy it is to work a little Iraq happy talk into just about anything.
There's a sample introduction: Several topics I'd like to talk about today -- Farm Bill, trade with Japan, WTO, avian flu . . . but before I do, let me touch on a subject people always ask about . . . progress in Iraq. See? Smooth as silk.
So then you talk about how we are helping the Iraqi people build a lasting democracy that is peaceful and prosperous. If it looks like the audience is with you, try to slip in the old Iraq/al-Qaeda/terrorism link and say Americans are helping build a country that will never again be a safe haven for terrorists.
Loop suggestion: With the polls showing that only about 40 percent of those surveyed actually still buy the linkage thing, you may want to use some discretion here lest you lose the audience.
The e-mail shows how to weave in a comment that times are tough for Iraqi farmers. But revitalization is underway. President Bush has a clear strategy for victory in Iraq structured on three tracks -- political, economic and security.
Be crop-specific. The Iraqis have also discussed specific products, like tomatoes, which they are anxious to export into the world community, the e-mail notes.
Talk turkey, or chicken, to your audience: The major poultry producers in Iraq . . . are using [U.S.] loan guarantees to buy U.S. corn and soybeans. . . . This in turn provides a cycle of income that is being used to update 25-year-old chicken houses, the e-mail suggests. Chickens apparently produce better in nice homes.
But what if your speech is on civil rights? Easy. Begin this way: I'm here to talk about civil rights, which is one of the fundamental tenets of democracy. Then you can say this country has been evolving for 230 years . . . still working to become a more perfect union . . .
So before I begin talking about the civil rights climate at USDA, the example says, I'd like to address the situation in another nation that is just now forging the path to democracy.
Bingo! You're in. Now: The president has a clear strategy for victory in Iraq structured along three tracks, etc.
Let's say you're talking about U.S. agricultural productivity. Try this: I'd like to take a moment to talk about a nation that is just now beginning to rebuild its own agricultural production.
Iraq is part to the 'fertile crescent' of Mesopotamia, the sample script says. It is there, in around 8,500 to 8,000 B.C., that mankind first domesticated wheat, there that agriculture was born. In recent years, however, the birthplace of farming has been in trouble.
Probably want to pause here and give the audience a chance to catch its breath. It's hard to travel 10,500 years that quickly. But revitalization is underway. President Bush has a clear strategy . . .
Don't forget to send that weekly e-mail to Harry.
Farmer down the street says regular Americans
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Respect has to be earned...it is not a God-given right!
You cannot demand respect, you must earn it! I have the right to respect or not to respect whomever I want! If you are one of the people I do not respect...too bad! Apparently, I do not feel you are worthy of my respect, which is my right!
DH and I have worked hard and have earned everything
that we have and WE should decide who to give it to, not Nobama. We are living the American Dream and will be penalized for it. If your child got all A's in school and the teacher told you that some kids got C's and B's and your child would have to give up some of their A's so the others would be on equal ground, would you object? Probably so. There is no incentive in socialism to work hard to acheive things when you can have the gov't provide everything for you. Don't you people know that you are playing right into the hand's of more gov't? You are being fed a bunch of lies and you won't even realize it until it is too late.
I think he has earned a bit more respect and credibility
so sue me.
okay - what do you think earned income credit is?
My sister pays no taxes - she has no taxes taken out of her check every week - she works a full time job, but she still every year gets back $5000-6000. Now why do you think that is any different than what you are talking about now? It is the same thing...
My dad was one of the "fat cats." And he earned
and deserved every penny he made. Sometimes he took naps at work, sometimes he played cards at work, but that was the nature of his job. They wanted the skilled labor guys there in case they were needed. If they weren't needed, then oh well. You act as though they were goofing off and not doing their job. The reality is they were there to do their job when it was asked of them.
The guys and gals on the assembly line weren't doing their jobs half the time or were drunk or drinking when they came in and worked. Building cars while drunk. And if you want to know what the problem is with auto industry you don't have to look farther than Americans buying foreign made cars and the SUV.
Obama won't. Bush has earned
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AS IF BUSH EARNED RESPECT???
Oh now that was funny....thanks for the laugh, I needed that!!!!
But Bush is soooo bashable and he has earned
No matter how hard he ties to rewrite history and author his own legacy, he is destined to trump all previous contenders for the dubious distinction of the WORST president in history. You watch.
Respect is earned. John McCain can....
respect him if he wishes; I will respect him when he earns it.
I do, however, respect his accomplishments. He has truly lived the American dream. That is one of my problems with him. He knows that you can, through ambition and hard work, go anywhere you want in this country. No one helped him, no one redistributed wealth to help him. He should try to guide people to take the path he took, not take from others to pay people to stay where they are. THAT I would respect.
There was a lot about McCain that I did not like...however, I did trust him and respect his lifetime of service to this country.
Only time will tell (to quote OP) what an Obama presidency will do to....or for...the country.
sorry, he has not yet earned my respect and blind faith ..
I did not decide who to vote for until 3 days before the election.
This blind faith people are espousing for OBama scares me as much as SOME (not all) of OBama's ideas!
My biggest concern -- so many promises .. that always is a red flag to me.
We should by nature be hopeful but wary at the same time.
HE will have my undying blind faith and support once he earns it.
He has my respect for being in the office of president, and I will try to honor his wishes and comply with what he "changes" ...
Respectable? Hah! He hasn't even earned trust yet!
Give it a few months for the media orgy/love fest to end then the scandals will begin (quite a few already).The dems are already at each other throats....this is gonna be good!
Yes, earned income credit, we pay our taxes....
Whaddya you make? 7 cents a line? LOL. You call that paying taxes? HAHAHAHA!
No, it's more than jus the earned income credit and kids.
This is adding in things like tuition and related school expenses, but not claiming the grant money they've recieved to pay for that - which you legally have to do. That's what makes me so mad!
Sorry, earned income credit, I have to pay taxes.....
I have no dependents, alas. I don't get food stamps or Welfare, either. Unlike you, the prophet, I will wait and see what direction our President takes us. You might be disappointed or I might be disappointed, but, obviously, it will all roll out in the end, won't it? Yes, I know about gas. Unfortunately for you, it has no escape route because you are too full of $hit to allow its escape. Sorry about the blockage.........honest, it isn't brain matter - it is fecal.
Time to stop the earned income tax credit
No more WELFARE period. Everybody can plant a small garden - even in pots. Go fishing and deer hunting for your meat. Tents are cheap - can walk or hitchhike to warmer climates so you're more comfortable. Live off the land! And let govt get smaller - no more handouts to ANYONE! If we did that, we wouldn't need roads or bridges - end that spending habit. Get rid of government completely. Everybody arm yourselves and live like they did in the old west. We are already well on our way to being a 3rd world country (even airports are dingy). Everybody is on their OWN. Consumerism would end. Who needs TV or iPods or computers or anything else? We're all gonna die anyway. Some sooner than others, but there's no way outta that one. If you don't make any money - you won't have to pay taxes.
Sing it sister!! Earned income tax credit most defintely is welfare.
But I bet very few people who receive it think of it that way. They just happily cash that refund check.
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