i don't mind working and helping out others
Posted By: sm on 2008-09-23
In Reply to: F: Obama is going to raise MY taxes... - danfan
but would prefer to choose who I help... not the government telling me
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Actually I believe in working hard and working
Are you really that bitter? I'll say a prayer for you.
I don't think he's helping his own cause
From what I saw, he just comes across as a weasel. I'm not sure what he hopes to accomplish.
you are the ones helping the terrorists
It is Bush and you and people who think like you who have put us at risk. We now have a full fledged terrorist state/breeding ground in Iraq because of Bush's war..That has put us at great risk for decades to come. Before Bush invaded, we had a few radicals that if we kept our focus we could have hunted down in Afghanistan and eliminated. Instead Bush invaded Iraq for no go reason other than to have a presence in the Middle East for control of the Middle East. Where is bin Laden? Why are we fighting in Iraq? Why are we there? The real murderer is somewhere in Afghanistan or Pakistan. Yet, you people continue to back this war when there is no logical good reason to have entered into it or to stay there. You and your man Bush are helping the terrorists, you have given them every reason to continue to multiply and hate us even more. You are throwing oil on fire. I want to put out the fire.
Thank you attorneys for helping the little guy
Thank you attorneys who deal with helping the little guy against enormous corporations and their deceit and corruption in America and those in government who allow it. Thank you and may you grow and prosper in helping us find justice.
I'm glad someone is helping.
Shame on this administration!
The idea of helping
lower income families really is a neighborly idea. We should help others. However, we need to look at the big picture here. When you continually give free handouts at the expense of others, not only do you make the people actually earning the money bitter, but you create a whole new problem with people expecting the government to bail them out and give them free handouts. Yes, it may help some people but on the whole it will only create more government spending because more people will become dependent on the goverment taking care of them. It is like a huge snowball rolling down a mountain and it just gets bigger and bigger and faster and faster until it buries us all. We cannot afford more government programs. We cannot afford to pay for health care for everyone.
People are so blinded by the slogan of change that they will jump on any bandwagon. Open your eyes! The last thing we need right now is bigger government. Bigger government will only cause more government spending and our country will fail horribly!
by helping your children
actual CHOICE about where your money is going. What about all the people out there who have no back bone and just want something for nothing?
yes, thank you, everyone is praying for me and it is really helping....nm
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Yep those mean conservatives are over there helping Israel
Yep, they'll be back when all the Lebanese are dead, because all us conservatives are evil like that.
So your idea of helping the less fortunate is
to give them freebies all their life so they don't have to do anything to earn it, thereby encouraging them to do nothing else, have no motivation, and just depend on the government? I think we have enough of those as it is.
Too bad I don't hear Obama saying get yourselves up, get yourself educated, and go make a life for yourselves!!!
Proof to me he likes to keep them dumb and uneducated so he can be "their leader".
Thank you for helping illustrate just how impotent
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Don't worry - he's for helping us poor MTs
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Trust me, you aren't helping yourself here..(sm)
All you are doing is putting a big bulls eye on your back.
None. Bush gave him the job for helping out in campaign (sm)
Guess he figured anybody could fill the spot. I believe there might be other top officials of FEMA who also got jobs instead of thank you notes for helping Bush be reelected.
Around the time of the campaign, a document came out citing FEMA's lack of qualified leadership, but it was pretty much dismissed as political mud-slinging.
Cindy isn't interested in helping the victims down there. She's just mad they are stealing
her thunder. Hopefully, she will be relegated to the pathetic pawn that she is and real news of real importance will come back to the world. Every time she speaks, she puts our troops in danger. The troops even said so, but she is too far gone to listen to the troops. They are all brainwashed.
I agree. I am helping the victims with all the financial support I can spare BUT
if we don't ask the question what happened to the levees, what can we do to make sure this doesn't happen again, where did the funding go? then we will find ourselves in the same position again. We can not afford to be policing other countries when the funding is bankrupt for our own needs. That's just the truth.
And so helping them means just giving them a check and food stamps? SM
What about providing them the tools to deal with and live a productive life with their handicap or mental illness? The problem with the liberals and their idea of helping humanity is that throwing money at the problem doesn't make it go away. Do you know how many homeless people out there suffer with mental illness? Do you know how many people with mentally ill family members weren't able to get their loved one the help they needed? I'm talking tangible help, not just a monthly stipend that doesn't even cover the meds they require!
Do you realize that your husband, mother, father, sister brother, who ever can slice their wrists and take a handful of pills in an attempt to commit suicide, admit to their family they don't want to live, but when they show up to the ER and say "I didn't really want to kill myself" they just let them walk away with stitches in their wrists and after they've pumped their stomachs? Did you know that even if they holler in the ER to the doctor, nurse, and social worker that they don't want to live and the most a family member can do to help their loved is an affadavit for a 96-hour hold in most states? After 96 hours, they are deemed "okay" and released again to go on their merry way.
The liberal lawmakers have passed laws that say a mentally ill person has the right to be mentally ill. They have a right to decide not to take their meds and they have a right to be homeless. They are allowed to make decisions on their own which are detrimental to their well being, both physically and mentally! A family member pleading to the court that this person is incompetent and cannot take themselves is virtually ignored. I dare anyone to try to go to a court of law and get POA over a mentally ill loved one and see just how difficult it really is. It's impossible thanks to the liberals.
It's just too easy -- the idea that keeping American jobs in America actually helping the economy
Nope, let's spend a few million and buy new furniture for homeland security and a few million more to buy hybrids for congress.
Can they not deduce that keeping corporate America from offshoring jobs will actually create more jobs, thereby lower the unemployment rate, and put more money in American's pocket for them to spend? Cut all tax cuts given to companies for offshoring and give the tax cuts to companies to strive to keep jobs in America?
And here's another V8 moment -- how about we buy American? Maybe increase tariffs on imported goods to discourage American companies from importing so much crapy and thereby necessitating said crap be sold at higher prices in an effort to discourage Americans from buying imports?
The ONLY way to help the American economy is to employ Americans and buy American! It's that simple!
No, it is not working very well for them.
see link.
Why are THEY working to fix it?
I asked DH today, why are they working to fix it? Aren't they the ones who got us into this mess in the first place? What's next let he criminal decide what punishment they will be getting.
Also, seems to me they are not real interested in finding a solution but are too interested in blaming the other side (just my opinion).
Every one of them should be held responsible and they should pay every single cent back they've received from the payouts whether they are democrat or republican.
Also, isn't one or two million enough for them? Heck, I could live very comfortable on $500K. But they are so greedy they have to millions and millions! DH said they are ignoring the fact this is not their money.
We can all see how well that is working
Flame away. It's the truth.
it's not working!
what should it be? I get an old spice commercial, a twix commercial and some person in a library. that's it.
I think God is still working on that, which is why O
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Sorry, I was working...
To begin with I'd like to see the video of Obama saying that he is a Muslim--WITH at least one minute of the interview prior to and after the "quote". Also, I'd like the person who said that he didn't know how many states were in the United States to back that up with a referrence. There are SO many others, but those are the two that come to mind.
it's not working for you, is it? nm
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CIA and FBI are working
My aunt talked to an FBI agent just a few days before Nov. 4th and they are still working on it. Supposedly O constantly shows he has a passport as proof of his birth certificate because in order to get a passport you have to show proof of a birth certificate.
Well in order to be president, you have to show proof of birth certificate, not a passport. Guess what? O does not show it. Hospitals have no record of birth certificate. All O has to do is SHOW THE STUPID THING and get this all resolved. So why does he not just show it? Why is he stalling. Why is O wasting time judges, courts, and lawyers time. JUST SHOW THE STUPID THING.
I'm working on that one............sm
I've already had to eat crow once tonight.....lol
Look up at the top.
Most QA here are already working
I'm not sure I fully understand. I know that there is no law against who you hire and how you hire. I know of facilities that have on-site MTs and have no plans to outsource at all.
Private practices if they desire hire on-site MTs because they can usually do coding/billing, answer phones, and make coffee (LOL). It happens.
I've run into 2 different people that have said when you get tired of working from home, come see us... We'll hire ya'.... LOL - makes me feel good about this profession.
I think it depends on how greedy that particular physician/facility is and how much they care about the quality of dictation and how much time they want to spend correcting it.
Working for ministries..
Working for a non-profit ministry is vastly different than working for a for-profit company. I say this, because I work in a ministry. Many ministries have Codes of Conduct. However, it's legally required that you be informed verbally and in writing of these codes of conduct, and then you sign a waiver stating that yes, you can follow those, or no you don't. You have a choice up front. It's a contract, and you can choose to sign and abide or not to sign and walk away.
I have no idea of the standards for the Salvation Army, but I doubt they are as stringent as what you are saying. The rumor mill is an ugly thing. I think we all played pass it down as children, and we know how drastically a statement can be altered when passed down just a minimum of two to three times.
If this guy says the surge is working...
November 29, 2007
Read More: Iraq
Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) acknowledged that the surge of U.S. troops in Iraq is “working” after returning from a brief trip to Iraq last week, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
The comments, coming from a harsh critic of President Bush’s Iraq war policy, suggest there may be a shift in Democratic rhetoric on Iraq in light of recent reductions in violence in Iraq over the last several months.
Murtha made the comments today at his district office in Johnstown, Pa.
He added that the Iraqi government needed to better “take care of themselves” and achieve greater progress with political reconciliation, according to the Post-Gazette.
The statement is a marked shift from this July, when Murtha told CNN that he “dismissed” an op-ed by Brookings Institution analysts Ken Pollack and Michael O’Hanlon that the surge was beginning to make progress, declaring their comments were “an illusion.”
Well, at least he has the guts to step up and tell the truth after seeing it with his own eyes. Good for him!
you been working on that answer
for the last 2 hours? My compliments - it was worth the wait.
Working harder
Dee I so agree with your post. I already have a hard time making ends meet and I work for 3 services, dh works a FT job and a PT time job. I will not work more so that the lazy class can do nothing to help themselves. There are a lot of people I know that started out liking Obama (me included) but now will not vote for him because of his socialist politics. If that is happening in one small area I'm sure it is happening all over this country. When is someone going to care about the middle class, who carry the brunt of the tax burden of this country???? I don't like McCain either but he is the lesser of 2 evils.
working in Washington?
The thing that everyone is forgetting is that not everyone is in Washington right now working - there are some people there trying to work out the details and everyone else will just vote when it is handed to them.
In fact, they said that things were going better before McCain and Obama got there, that once McCain got there things started going downhill because there are a group of Republicans who do not want to support the package that their Republican President is wanting passed.
Now, I don't know if I would support it or not if I was there, but I don't think that it is a requirement that every Senator be in that room while they are working on the details.
I am not a Democrat, I am not a Republican - don't know yet for sure which way I am going - but I do not fault Obama for not automatically running to Washington just because McCain did. In fact, from all the information I have gather this morning, McCain did not contribute anything to the conversation yesterday anyway. 
Exactly right. Remember that when you are working...
100% for the STATE.
Working your butt off
Is never having a day off because during the week you MT part time and take classes AND teach youth group and then you have a second account on the weekend.
I'd love to have kids but I'm not going to right now BECAUSE I CAN'T AFFORD IT and I don't expect anyone else to pay for them! It's called being RESPONSIBLE.
Think before you speak.
Believe me, you may be working your butts off..
but in the end it will pay off. You will live your American Dream and you will thrive. Most today want it all now, gimme gimme, gotta have it now, material things come first. DH and I are debt free but the house; do we want a new BMW or Escalade, you bet, can we afford it, you bet, do we have them, he!! no, our cars are a few years old and paid for and drive just like a new one. Do we have the latest, greatest electronics, no to that too, we don't have anyone we need to impress that much. However, we do have piece of mind that we have money in the bank, can take vacations, can pay whatever price gas is, pay cash for anything new we want and can go the mailbox or answer the phone and know there isn't a debt collector on the other end.
We have been in your shoes, working our tails off and it has paid off greatly for us. Sure, we struggled but now it's worth it. We did it without whining to the gov't for help, expecting some man speaking eloquent words at a podium to come to our rescue.
Were you working for the OP? What do you know for a fact?
Unless you were working for the OP, you don't know what she paid her employees or anything else about her business. She was using that as an example...I work full time but my employer isn't that generous with me as far as fullfilling my shift obligations. If I am late, I get docked. Simple as that. No job I ever had gave incentives like the OP did.
So until you have walked in her shoes, you really have no right to say something like that. IMO.
I see the Kool Aid is working. nm
I'm not working but If I did work s/m
I would take a pay cut right after I saw the suits take a pay cut in proportion to the size of the cuts which their employees were asked to take. No, that wouldn't happen, they would take the money and give themselves a bonus for running the company into the ground. I would also be willing to take a pay cut if the cost of goods and services went down but that isn't happening either. So.........I say NO to pay cuts for anyone. Either lower costs where people can live on minimum wage or make wages sufficient to pay for essentials.
yes, it's one of the bonuses of working for the Q -nm
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A lot of those people are working -
Food stamps are not just for people who are not working. If you have a husband and wife making minimum wage, exactly how much money do you think they are making? Not enough to feed themselves and live, let alone feed a family if they have one.
Not everyone is cut out to go to college, not everyone has the funds or resources to go to college, and we all need these people working in these lower paying jobs to keep our world revolving, and they are always going to require some help to get through life.
I don't see that it is just a bunch of deadbeats that are getting food stamps. Now, I agree, there are people who could do better than they do, but there are also people who are generally just in need of help and not taking help because they want to, but out of necessity to live.
Starting at the top and working their way down........sm
the Bill of Rights? If the government can do this, you can well believe they can strip other religious freedoms and move right on down the line to the right to bear arms and whatever else they would like to strip away. Thomas Jefferson said it best (loosely quoted) - "A government that is big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to can take everything you have."
It looks to me like they have all been working parties too -
One of the lines even said that it was a "hamburger and hotdog" affair for the congressman; and it also plainly stated that Obama had left the party before the conga line started - but who cares anyway?
Do you think just because he is President he is not human and does not like to interact and have fun? Do you not think that every President before him has entertained and enjoyed themselves at their "HOME"?
Working link. sm
http://thomas.loc.gov/
Not the WORKING Americans!
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Working for the people? .............sm
I'd say so in this instance. We don't know what Obama's total healthcare package is going to cost either, but it will come out of my pocket and yours. Personally, and I know I will get toasted for this, I would rather use my hard-earned dollars to insure me and my family and let everyone else worry about doing the same. Why should I pay for insurance for people who haven't bothered getting insurance on their own?
helping the lower class and middle class will NOT
Giving handouts to those that do not work certainly does nothing to help their situations; it only encourages it. Middle class are your working class, the support and backbone of this country. Obama's interference in their lives is just that, interference. The democrats have always felt they have the right to interfere in our lives by taxing us to death. What does that do to help us? It only makes us MORE dependent on the government......nothing about MORE government is helping us in any way.
I'm glad you think crime is JUST a biproduct of poverty, not race, which proves you obviously don't live in an area where that would prove you wrong. I live in an area where I know that every BLACK has the same opportunities as whites, the EXACT same education and FREE two college years....FREE, FREE, FREE.....all they have to do is finish high school....not all As or even any Bs, just finish high school. Now, a lot of young people take advantage of that but MANY do not. What do they do instead? Stand on the street corner, run around with their pants hanging down to the knees, steal for drugs, sell drugs to make money so they can buy expensive hubcaps for their souped up cars, buy their expensive shoes and ugly pants, and make MORE BABIES, which by the way, I SUPPORT with my taxes. No, I don't want to hear all that hogwash about their poverty. The media has made so much of that garbage, those that don't live in or near it, don't realize many blacks have the same opportunities; it's just that a lot of blacks, especially in my town, have grown up generation after generation living off the taxpayer and see no reason whatsoever to change their situation. They make more babies.....I'm forced to raise them so that generation can make more babies. Do I wish their situation would change? ABSOLUTELY! Do they have plenty of resources available in this town alone to change that? ABSOLUTELY! Do most of them take advantage of that? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! Yes, the majority of crimes in our town is committed by blacks but it AIN'T because of poverty; it's because THEY WANT TO COMMIT A CRIME!! We have poor whites as well and the majority of those do not feel they have the right to steal what belongs to others, kill someone over drugs or a stupid girl, or whatever else one wants to use as an excuse.
Obama will do nothing to help those that feel entitled and look to Obama as just a bigger free paycheck. You don't help anyone by giving them free handouts. If they don't want an educate, won't help themselves, and continue to feel ENTITLED to MY money, Obama certainly won't change that by encouraging laziness and lack of worth ethics.
Making the middle class dependent on the government is in no way helping them; if anything, Obama will be the end to the middle class as we know it today.
Apparently abstinence and no sex-ed are not working.
More failed policies?
CNN working to get COMPLETE info.
Perhaps there is more to the story than sam is trying to insinuate...like some of the replies have been suggesting. Take a peek at O's record on Katrina.
http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/when-the-cameras-are-off-barack-obamas-hurricane-katrina-record/
1. Here is O's record on rebuilding after Hurriane Katrina
2. Sept. 2, 2005: Obama holds press conference urging Illinoisans to contribute to the Hurricane Katrina relief efforts.
3. Sept. 5, 2005: Obama goes to Houston to visit evacuees with Presidents Clinton and Bush.
4. Sept. 7, 2005: Obama introduces bill to create a national emergency family locator system
5. Sept. 8, 2005: Obama introduces bill to create a National Emergency Volunteers Corps. Sept. 8, 2005: Obama co-sponsors the Katrina Emergency Relief Act of 2005 introduced by Senator Harry Reid
6. Sept. 8, 2005: Obama co-sponsors the Hurricane Katrina Bankruptcy Relief and Community Protection Act of 2005 introduced by Senator Russ Feingold
7. Sept. 12, 2005: Obama introduces legislation requiring states to create an emergency evacuation plan for society’s most vulnerable
8. Sept. 15, 2005: Obama issues public response to President Bush’s speech about Gulf Coast rebuilding.
9. Sept. 21, 2005: Obama co-sponsors bill to establish a Katrina commission to investigate response to the disaster introduced by Hillary Clinton
10. Sept. 21, 2005: Obama appears on NPR to discuss the role of poverty in Hurricane Katrina.
11. Sept. 22, 2005: Obama and Coburn’s Hurricane Katrina financial oversight bill unanimously passes Senate committee.
12. Sept. 22, 2005: Obama’s amendment requiring evacuation plans unanimously passes Senate committee.
13. Sept. 28, 2005: Obama and Coburn issue statement about the need for a Chief Financial Officer to oversee the financial mismanagement and suspicious contracts occurring in the reconstruction process
14. Sept. 29, 2005: Obama and Coburn investigate possible FEMA refusal of free cruise ship offer
15. Oct. 6, 2005: Obama and Coburn issue statement on FEMA Decision to re-bid Katrina contracts
16. Oct. 6, 2005: Obama co-sponsors Gulf Coast Infrastructure Redevelopment and Recovery Act of 2005.
17. Oct. 21, 2005: Obama releases statement decrying the extension of FEMA director, Michael “Brownie” Brown’s contract. Obama calls Brown’s contract extension, “unconscionable.”
18. Nov. 17, 2005: Obama and Coburn introduce legislation asking FEMA to immediately re-bid all Katrina reconstruction contracts.
19. Feb. 1, 2006: Obama gives Senate floor speech on his legislation to help children affected by Hurricane Katrina
20. Feb. 2, 2006: Obama introduces legislation to help low-income children affected by Hurricane Katrina
21. Feb. 23, 2006: Obama issues statement responding to a White House report on Hurricane Katrina. Obama noted that the top two recommendations that the report had for the federal government were initiatives he had been working on since immediately after the storm hit. Obama called the administration’s response “delinquent.”
22. May 2, 2006: Obama gives speech about no-bid contracts in Hurricane Katrina reconstruction
23. May 4, 2006: Obama’s legislation to end no-bid contracts for Hurricane Katrina reconstruction passed the Senate.
24. June 15, 2006: Obama and Coburn announce legislation to require amendment to create competitive bidding for Hurricane Katrina reconstruction for federal contracts over $500,000. Although it passed previously, the language was stripped in conference.
25. June 15, 2006: Obama releases podcast about his pending Katrina reconstruction legislation in the Senate.
26. June 16, 2006: Obama and Coburn get no-bid Hurricane Katrina reconstruction amendment into Department of Defense authorization bill.
27. July 14, 2006: Obama and Coburn’s legislation to end abuse of no-bid contracts passes senate as amendment to Department of Defense authorization bill.
28. August 11, 2006: Obama visits Xavier University in New Orleans to give Commencement address
29. August 14, 2006: Obama and Coburn ask FEMA to address ballooning no-bid contracts for Gulf Coast reconstruction
30. Sept. 29, 2006: Obama and Coburn legislation to prevent abuse of no-bid contracts in the wake of disaster passes Senate to be sent to President’s desk to become law.
31. Feb. 2007-Present: As Obama begins his Presidential campaign he references Katrina as a part of his stump speech as he travels around the country in his familiar line, “That we are not a country which preaches compassion and justice to others while we allow bodies to float down the streets of a major American city. That is not who we are.”
32. June 20, 2007: Obama co-sponsors Gulf Coast Housing Recovery Act of 2007 introduced by Senator Chris Dodd.
33. July 27, 2007: Obama and colleagues get a measure in the Homeland Security bill that will investigate FEMA trailers that may contain the toxic chemical, formaldehyde.
34. Aug. 26, 2007: Obama outlines a detailed Hurricane Katrina recovery plan.
35. December 18, 2007: Obama calls on President Bush to protect affordable housing in New Orleans
36. February 16, 2008: Obama releases statement on toxic Gulf Coast trailers
At one point in my life, I was working
but still had to count on foodstamps to feed my two kids. Was a burden to society? Had to learn to use coupons, and then one day the checkout girl forgot to take off the 25 cent coupon of my food bill. I was told, "It's only a quarter" to which I replied, "I hope you never have to learn what a quarter means." Found out years later that unfortunately she too learned what a quarter was after she married, had a couple of kids, and was on foodstamps. But I thank those Americans who paid their taxes in order that my children did not starve, even as I was working full-time.
We already have this plan in my state and it is working very well...sm
Keep our own doctor, private insurance companies, etc. Republican governor too.
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