does NOT change the fact that he voted NO
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In Reply to: CNN working to get COMPLETE info. - Here's what O did while JM ate BD cake w/Bush.
to Katrina relief and instead to send the money for the bridge to nowhere. And I think that was a bad choice.
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The U.S. Voted Wearing Their Change Goggles
The U.S. Voted Wearing Their Change Goggles
Wednesday, November 12, 2008
By Mike Baker
It seems that much of the nation rolled over on Tuesday night last week, lit a post election cigarette and dreamily congratulated themselves on a wonderful performance. Was it okay for you?
I’ve never seen anything like the global swoon we’ve been experiencing since the polls closed and Obama’s victory was announced. "OMG," cries the public, fueled by a media that got itself a bit more than a little pregnant, "how wonderful we are for electing Obama."
Maybe I’m just a cynical, churlish id*ot, but I woke up after the election with a feeling that, while historic, the result was more a vote against Bush than a vote for Obama. Dazzled by his speechifying and supercool ways, the partygoers opted for style over substance… for campaign skills over any discernible leadership record. Sure, we know he doesn’t have any significant experience and seems too smooth to be true, but what the h*ll. As a nation, we went out to the bar with our change goggles on.
So there we are the next morning, staring at our new companion for at least the next four years. You feel good for having brought home the most attractive candidate, and you did show how progressive you are… but what’s the person really like? Never mind. Let’s enjoy the feel good moment for a bit longer. Soon enough we’ll have to get out of bed and get something done. Here’s hoping the relationship works out and he’s a keeper.
Related
By the way, in last week’s PWB, we asked readers to tell us what they learned from the lengthy campaign process. The mailbag has been jammed with responses ever since. As a result, at the beginning of this week I formed a committee, led by Bobo the talking intern, to select the top ten reader responses to the question, "What have I learned from this campaign season?" Since then, the committee has been huddled in the conference room compiling the list and playing a lot of foosball. Their decisions will remain secret until next week, at which time we’ll announce the winners.
Unless of course one of the committee members opens their yap and leaks the results ahead of schedule. That would be unfortunate. There’s a no-leak policy here at the PWB, it’s enshrined in our employee handbook on page 7 in the section titled "Keep Your Piehole Shut."
In summary, if any staff or interns are unable to keep confidential information confidential, they shall be terminated. I also included a multi-panel drawing showing an employee being told a secret, then revealing the secret, then being escorted out of the office. Diagrams are always helpful in employee handbooks.
I mention this because just this past week we’ve been reminded how difficult it seems to be for some people to shut up. And refreshingly, this isn’t a Democratic or Republican thing, this is across the board. For some reason, usually because they’re complete tools looking to show how clever or important they are, many people can’t help talking out of turn.
This is why, when confronted by a rabid conspiracy theorist convinced that there is an evil cabal somewhere pulling the strings and screwing us all, I stare at them slack jawed while my thought balloon asks "Are you really that stupid?" Somebody in that cabal, whether at the top or the bottom of the cabal ladder, would eventually leak to the press.
The other day President Bush and the First Lady hosted President Elect Obama and his family at the White House. While the First Lady and soon to be First Lady successfully managed to keep their discussions private, we quickly learned from "anonymous sources" that Bush and Obama reportedly talked about striking a tit-for-tat deal on economic issues.
This is a classic example where grownups, you would’ve thought, would be disciplined enough to keep a lid on what was discussed in supposedly private discussions between two of the most powerful folks on the planet. How difficult is this concept?
It appears that the leak came from an Obama staffer, undoubtedly one currently consumed with their self importance and access. If the Obama transition team needs some help with the wording, I’d be happy to provide you with section 7 from the PWB employee handbook.
Also during the same week, the New York Times ran a front page article based on classified information provided from "anonymous sources" within the military and/or government. The story highlighted a heretofore secret executive order (exord) signed back in 2004 that gave authority for counterterrorist operations in certain countries in pursuit of AL Qaeda.
Basically, in carefully selected circumstances where operational intelligence warrants the risk, the exord allows US personnel to cross into listed countries to carry out operations against defined terrorist targets. I believe the codename for the exord is “Basic Common Sense”.
The New York Times managed to gather information on this exord from individuals, either currently active or retired, incapable of keeping their respective pieholes shut. Perhaps the sources disagree with the order and feel it their solemn duty to talk to a reporter. Maybe someone was upset over how the exord was managed or interpreted. It could be that one or more of the sources talked because they are starved for attention or recognition.
What they do have in common is an apparent inability to understand the concept of classified information and a disregard for whatever oath of office they took upon entering government or the military. Got a bone to pick? Go to the press, leak a little. Who cares if it’s classified… aren’t we all better off in a completely transparent society? What a load of crap.
If your job is to work with classified information… if you’ve been trusted with that authority and responsibility, then do your job and keep your mouth shut. If you want to talk to the press for whatever reason, man up, quit your job and go on the record. You’ll still be breaking your oath, but at least the rest of us could enjoy watching you deal with the consequences.
As always, we look forward to your comments, thoughts and insight. Send your e-mails to peoplesweeklybrief@hotmail.com.
Mike Baker served for more than 15 years as a covert field operations officer for the Central Intelligence Agency, specializing in counterterrorism, counternarcotics and counterinsurgency operations around the globe. Since leaving government service, he has been a principal in building and running several companies in the private intelligence, security and risk management sector, including most recently Prescience LLC, a global intelligence and strategy firm. He appears frequently in the media as an expert on such issues. Baker is also a partner in Classified Trash, a film and television production company. Baker serves as a script consultant, writer and technical adviser within the entertainment industry, lending his expertise to such programs as the BBC's popular spy series "Spooks," as well as major motion pictures.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,451004,00.html
This does not change the fact that CNN has not
You see, I know my candidate. He is very careful with his votes. There must have been something HIGHLY, HIGHLY stinky for him to have voted no on Katrina finding in view of the 36 other times he did everything humanly possible to help out. Cetainly you didn't have time to read it, but I feel certainly others will at least glance at the list. Don't blame you for being a little touchy on being exposed for posting half truths on the board. It does have a tendency to undermine one's credibility, especially if you let it become a habit.
Doesn't change the fact....Obama is a socialist....
and you are condoning trampling all over someone's civil rights because they asked a question and Obama answered it honestly. Why would that upset you so much? Ohhbaamaaa is socialist, he said he was in his answer, explained it very clearly. So you should just embrace his socialism and stop shooting the messenger, right?
Slurs? Unfounded accusations? You mean like doing a law enforcement background check on someone for asking a question?
That is HONEST?? pUleezzeee.
Change and Hope: Obama wants your change and hopes you enjoy starving.... sm
...while he's partying like a rock star with the glitterati.
Meanwhile, some little old lady is hoping he doesn't get a dog and sends her the dog food instead.
Yes, they're all nuts. The change they'll get is not the change they thought
I want change. Chump change. I'm voting for Obama as far as the pollsters go.
Obama is change you can believe in until you have to take it to the bank.
Our jobs have been offshored until now because of greed. Under Obama and his taxation of small businesses, they will be offshored not because of greed but because of survival.
You could make a difference for our country by not voting for Obama, but instead, if you vote for him, you are selling out to deception. You are embracing a socialist, a communist, a Marxist, a liar, a cheat, and someone who legally cannot run as President of the U.S., much less the Illinois senate. But, you make your choice. You believe the consumate liar and his lies who sat for 20 years under the teachings of a black racist preacher filled with hatred for the U.S., whose association with Bill Ayers is recent and documented down to the fact that Ayers himself wrote Obama's best-selling book (best-selling in the eyes of far left liberals that is), who is a documented member of the socialist party, whose friends and close allies are extremists who not only bomb innocent people and are unrepenetent but who intend to eliminate (kill) 25 million Americans who they cannot "re-educate" in communist ideaology (gosh dog it, those dreadful capitalists), who refuses to hand over a certified copy of his birth certificate and educational records (my goodness, don't you have to provide your birth certificate to any number of entities who want to know if you are legal, i.e., social security, DMVs, etc., and your educational records would show if you had received aid as a foreigner and in 1963 would have shown you were a negro instead of an African-American which Obama's falsified record shows, please speck up on history), and who thinks Joe the Plumber is so stupid not to realize that if he wants to achieve the American dream, he is going to achieve it only if he lets Obama take what he makes to give to those WHO WILL NOT WORK. I'd like to see you, liberals, give a share of your 7.5 cpl to those who don't work as hard as you, but then with Obama, that's what you will have to do. Don't be fooled by his rhetoric that only those making over $250,00 will be taxed. We will all be taxed, and there will be no incentive to work for any of us because we will all have to give up a piece of our pie so those who do not work can have a piece of our pie.
Here is the dividing line, folks. We are at a crossroads in our history. The Lord Jesus puts it this way, "Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction; and there are many who go in by it."
Choose which gate you enter, the wide or the narrow. It not only determines your eternal destination, but it determines the destination of this country. If anyone here calls themself a Christian and can vote for Osambo, I daresay you are a liar and cheat just as he. One cannot be a Christian and vote for a party and a political candidate who is in total rebellion to God's Word. That is a fact, and if you think any differently, then you, too, like the Obamanation, call God a liar. May He have mercy upon your soul. As He makes the rain fall on the just and the unjust because He is no respector of persons, we will all suffer as this country is destroyed and our Constitution that guarantees our freedoms is trampled just as Bill Ayers is pictured standing upon our flag in total disrespect, and we will thank you liberals that we are all in bondage, reduced to third world status, just as the Israelites were in Egypt. Only Obama ain't no Moses but a Muslim and has no favor with God, and there will be no one to lead us to the Promised Land coming from the Democratic party.
Dems voted for it, Biden voted for it....
Bill Clinton signed it into law. Plenty of blame to go around. McCain asked for regulation of Fannie/Freddie in 2005. Dems blocked it. The Dem record is slightly worse in the regulation/deregulation arena.
But...plenty of blame to go around.
The fact that an article was written does not make it fact. I hope you know that. nm
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I agree with change....change to socialism...
NO THANKS.
Think again - nothing has been voted on yet
I guess you really don't get it, do you. I don't care if McCain or Obama is ahead but these polls mean absolutely nothing. Nothing has been settled yet. If Obama wins on 11/4 then that's fine. If McCain wins on 11/4 then that's fine, but for pete's sake stop acting like children spinning that your candidate has already won and they have more this or that. I've been watching the news on every station and reading all the websites and I have not found anything yet to say one has more votes than the other. Polls mean diddly. The real thing will happen on 11/4. Til then it would be a good idea to put a lid on your arrogance.
Like I say either way I don't care. Whoever gets in gets in. Either way the country is really really screwed! The question now is do you want someone to tell you your screwed to your face or do you want some to hide it in fluff and make you feel good while your being screwed.
They all voted against us
No one in Washington is standing up for us. You are being pitted against each other by CNN and Fox. There is no difference between the two candidates at all. They are both wimps.
Had he done so I would have voted for him most likely
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but he could have voted against it -
He did not have to sign that bill; even if it was for show because he knew it was going to pass, he could have not signed it just to prove the point that he does not support any pork barrel spending. Just goes to show, he is going to do whatever he wants to do when he gets in office - no matter what he promised. If he wants something done and he has to give away a lot of money to get it, he is going to give away a lot of money. He's no different than anyone else.
He voted against it, and he said why...
he said he was afraid that people would use the bill to somehow circumvent abortion rights. And for that he was willing to sacrifice even those babies who survived that heinous procedure. Does it matter WHY he voted against it? Does that change the fact that he DID?
i voted against O, however...
i strongly opposed obama in the white house. however, i do believe that now he is pres-elect, that we should be respectful and supportive in as much as possible. he may well surprise even me and change some of his positions and prove to be a much better leader than i would expect. i for one, will be praying for his wisdom and judgment.
or maybe he voted the way he said he voted
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Why they voted for him...
obama fan: "I won’t have to worry about putting gas in my car. I won’t have to worry about paying my mortgage because if I help him[Obama], he’s gonna help me.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI
Any questions? Get a grip, I am happy not to be associated with voters like this.
Like I said, the ones who voted for him
either think he is their precious EVERYTHING, were too scared about the economy and were willing to vote for ANYTHING, or the ones who just voted for him because he is BLACK! Not too much of an intelligent vote either way!!
Flame all you want!
You mean he voted something besides
Who knew?
I do believe that it was voted
on whether or not we went to war in Iraq and I do believe that many Dems were on board at that time as well as many Americans. It only became a problem with some when they realized how much money it was costing.
Personally, I feel we should leave the middle east alone and let them kill each other. However, when they strike on US turf.....they best get ready for a strike back.
As for the stuff that Obama has been handed.....I know his job can't be easy and I wouldn't take it no matter how much money I was offered......but I still cannot condone what he is doing. Taking the rights away from Catholic hospitals and making them perform abortions or lose their funding. The continued bailing out of banks with big bonuses being slipped in there. So many people in our government who have been appointed to positions and getting caught for not paying taxes but getting a get out of jail free card.
Obama not crooked? I'm sorry but look at the state he comes from. Illinois is full of crooked politicians. His associations alone make me question his morality. His attendance to a church of hate was overlooked as nothing. There are just so many things stacked against this man and yet so many people refuse to see it or just let it slide like it is nothing.
Obama has had enough free passes. This is my country and I have a right to question my government. To me this is not the time to be going to other countries and telling them how arrogant the US is and how everything is our fault. Just like every time Obama opens his mouth about his spending....he continually brings up Bush's spending instead of admitting his own excessive spending.
I'm tired of the government giving CEOs crap for having private jets when government officials waste more taxpayer money on planes, etc. It is just ridiculous. It is like the whole lot of them preaching "do as I say and not as I do." Absolutely ridiculous.
I just hope that come election time, we get some of these people out of office.....Frank, Dodd, Pelosi, Reid........
They may have voted for what some
people want, but not everyone agrees with SSM.
we actually voted in 2004....SM
http://ideamouth.com/voterfraud.htm
state by state, counties too..........
I voted in our primary
on Tuesday. As soon as I put the card in the electronic machine it said invalid card even though I watched the woman run it through her little machine to clear it and saw it say clear twice. It took 3 people about 5 minutes to figure out how to get the card out of the machine. Then I got a new one. Everything went along fine until one choice. There were 4 people on the ballot; it would let me vote for 3 of them but not the 4th which was the one I wanted to vote for. I told them about this but nothing will happen. I think we should either have a paper trail or write them out long hand. Even if these machines were not suspect to begin with as far as tampering goes, just plain not working makes a huge difference in the vote.
I know that Bush did not win Florida in 2004. Thousands of African Americans did not stand in lines for hours to vote for Bush. You can take that to the bank and bet the farm on it too. My personal favorite though is a county that counted something like 10,000 votes for Bush and there are only 5,000 registered voters in the entire county !!! Go figure.
I never voted Democrat, but...
For one thing, Clinton WAS impeached. He just was not convicted. The Republicans caved. Shame on them! With that being said, while Obama did not actually "change" the seal, his campaign thought it would be cute to copy it for the meeting, Isuppose they did not have sense enough to realize what a firestorm it would cause. Well, duh, folks. Not everyone in the US is mesmerized by Obama the Pied Piper. The man is not nearly as eloquent without prompters. Can't think on his feet really well. Someone has their hand up his back pulling ALL the strings. I am tempted to think the initials are GS. THAT being said, I agree whole-heartedly about the Jeremiah Wright thing. I don't think I want a man as President who sat in the pew for 20 years and never heard the man "preach like that." Either he wasn't paying a bit of attention (which is highly unlikely as intelligent as he is supposed to be, right), or he was lying through his teeth (I vote for that one). But, just on the offchance he really "missed" that kind of preaching over 20 years, if he does get elected, my suggestion is someone else attend the cabinet meetings to take notes so he actually realizes what went on. lol. Not to mention security and intel briefings. I can't WAIT, if he is elected, to see who is his chief of staff and cabinet are. That will tell the tale I am thinkin, but by then it will be too late for buyers remorse. lol.
A lot of dems voted for the war too....
including Kerry and Hillary and untold others...including your VP candidate, Biden. Can't you tell the truth? What about the truth is so scary to you? You can go on line and see the roll call vote. Many, Many D's there. No war can ever be waged without a 2/3 vote of Congress. War is not a "conservative" thing. What a ridiculous lie. Do you ever go research anything or are you afraid lightning will strike you if you stray from Dem talking points??
I voted for Bush
The people who are campaigning are not the same people once they get into the white house. I voted for Bush. I also voted for Clinton. Both presidents turned out to be Bozo's but not until after they got into the position.
I think you need to stop accusing Sarah Palin of having no experience because that is going to backfire big time. Obama does not have any expereince either. The only two people expereinced are McCain and Biden. Also you want to talk about no experience think back to our forefathers. George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, John Adams. Those people had no experience and yet they went on to be great leaders. Both Barack and Sarah do not have experience. The difference in my opinion is that Sarah is running for VP while Barack is running for President. Two candidates - both with no experience. Except that Sarah has balanced a budget, cut out wasteful spending, and stood up to the big oil people. She also gave money back to the citizens of Alaska who paid to much in gas/oil prices. I'll go for that over someone who did some community organization.
so every single pub voted for it and no pub
I've answered several of your questions. Now try 2 of mine. Did every single pub vote to pass it and did no pub receive any type of benefit from this situation?
So would those 94 democrats who voted no.nm
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Yes, and 94 Democrats voted no. So why not...
11 more democrats voting yes instead of 11 more Republicans?
No, most of the Republicans voted against it...
because their constituency were 99 to 1 against it. The senators added the extra stuff hoping to entice some of those Republicans to vote yes instead of no. Plus to woo the 95 democrats who voted against it.
It is silly on its face for the Democrats to whine so much...if they would stop worrying about voting in the majority with George Bush, they could pass the thing themselves. They have the majority. But they want it to be "bipartisan" so if it does not work, they don't have to live out their congressional terms with "they voted with George Bush and crashed the economy" over their heads.
Politics first, constituents second. And so it goes.
he was voted in - she was chosen... nm
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You have already voted for communism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act
Haven't you voted YET?
What are you waiting for?
And you have no idea who they voted
just because they were black you assume they voted for Obama. Now, would that be racist?
Obamanation may have voted
no on that one, but Bush couldn't have passed that without the support of many others. Quite a few politicians voted yes for that one. So you can't really just blame ole bushy for that either.
Besides, the surge has won and Obama has yet to really admit that and he owes it to our troops who have fought and the ones who have lost their lives to admit that their efforts have been successful.
My question is this though....there is a whole lotta crap going on over in Afghanastan (sp?). We have troops over there now. Even if we pull out of Iraq and let the Iraqi law enforcement take charge.....what happens in Afghanastan? Do we pull out of there too? What does Obama suggest we do? Does any one know his view points on this because this is something I've never really researched.
Obama voted against it, too!
What does that make him?
Why I voted for Obama (sm)
1. I believe in a woman's right to choose. I have read the FOCA bill and have based my decision on my interpretation of that bill in accordance with my own opinion.
2. I believe the war in Iraq is a disaster. I don't think it does credit to our troops to send them into harm's way for an unjust war. Obama will end that war and get our military home. The money we spend in Iraq is also included in that.
3. I agree with Obama's tax plan. I have sat down and compared the two, and in my situation, I get a better deal with Obama's plan. I see no difference in McCain's plan and what is going on right now with Bush.
4. McCain has shown is lack of leadershiip in the fact that he cannot manage his own campaign. He ran all around like a chicken with his head cut off when the economic crisis hit. Said he suspended his campaign and didn't. Obama submitted a plan and went with hit, showing leadership qualities.
5. Negative campaining: This is something McCain and his wife publicly said he would not do, and yet he seems to be okay with it now.
The list is much longer, but these are a few.
Yes. He will be voted into office and be
He is a fine AMERICAN citizen who has dedicated his life to public service, has run a brilliant campaign, won over a "commanding" lead in the polls and will be making history in just 48 short hours or so.
I haven't voted yet.
I'm planning on hitting the polls a little later this morning. Not too concerned about lines as our polling place is in a small town.
Gee Sam...wonder who you voted for. LOL! Go McCain/Palin!!! 
If you voted for "O" I can understand why....
LOL.
Voted last week, but..
wore an old pair of jeans and a white sweat shirt.
You should be asking all those people who voted for the ban. nm
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Sweden. They just voted
conservative for the first time in 84 or 86 years; they are tired of socialism. Bet you did not hear that by the drive-by! Don't care much for their burial arrangements, you are only good until the next in line dies, then you are dug up and moved to a common area. But they are very strict about animals coming in; they have never had rabies.
You know, GP, I voted for Obama and like
I said, I never cared for the Bush administration, but give Bush a break. Enough is enough.
The EC voted yesterday......... sm
but those votes will not be counted until 1/6/2009 when both houses will convene to certify the votes. One can only hope and pray that there is still at least 1 Senator and 1 Representative with the intestinal fortitude to challenge that certification should it go in favor of Obama.
Just a side note. I was in a bookstore yesterday browsing the books when I came across a book cover designed to look like Time magazine with Obama's picture and the caption President Obama. How's that for audacity?
You mean the war the dems voted FOR also?
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Hillary was voted in as SOS....(sm)
The Senate voted 94-2, with Republican Senators David Vitter of Louisiana and Jim DeMint of South Carolina opposing.
Earlier Wednesday, Sen. John McCain implored his Republican colleagues to drop partisan demands and let the popular president get to work.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28750248
Thank you McCain!
I read and did not believe and I voted
for Obama. You just have to delve into things that just do not sound right.
You mean the one they voted in BEFORE O took office?
a couple of weeks back, the first words out of Obama's mouth when he addressed his White House Staff were announcing a salary freeze on highly paid WH aides. Remember?
Wehether or not the Congress is able to vote in yet another salary increase in the future remains to be seen, doesn't it now? My question to you is why you are dodging the subject at hand? Please explain to me why the govt should not cap TARP CEO salaries?
and Obama voted yes for it. (nm)
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How they voted yesterday.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00061
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