do you think he would approve of what you are posting here?
Posted By: sam on 2008-09-01
In Reply to: obama was abandoned by his father - BDayes
I most certainly do NOT.
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I approve of his choice. I also was...sm
impressed by Obama's statement that he did not want to choose a yes man.
Everyone is aware of what you don't approve of....
and it happens to be the same kind of life a lot of your party members live. Like I said...get out there and spread this message. You will do more harm to Obama's candidacy than all the conservatives combined can do. Get right after it. I DARE YOU. GO post it somewhere where it will make a difference if you really believe it.
A site all of you may approve of.
I found this site this morning. It's pretty neat. On the right, it includes biographies, voting records, issue positions, interest group ratings, speeches, finances (campaign contributions), etc., etc.
In the center, if you click on one of the underlined groups, it will tell you who they are, their mission, and how they rated every one in government.
On the left, you can put your own congressman or senator and do the same.
http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=9490
All the states can approve
homosexual marriage. It still doesn't make it a reality. Very few people will ever recognize it as reality. In fact, it's best just to ignore it completely and not validate the assylum.;-)
I really hope that the house does not approve...sm
the bill from the senate with all the addendums. Why can't we have a clean bill without things being added on? The house vote is our last chance and I hope they don't cave without making changes. I am proud to say that one of my senators, Bernie Sanders-I voted against it, and he IS the most liberal senator, not Obama.
You are correct, Jesus would not approve of it....
that being the case, I am equally sure He would not approve of abortion in any way, shape or form. Didn't he say "Suffer the little children to come unto me, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven" ? Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God? Who is more pure in heart that a child in the womb, I ask you.
That is only ONE of the reasons I will not vote for Barack Obama. He goes so far as to vote AGAINST treating a baby who managed to survive abortion, rather leave them to die in a soiled linen closet, alone, simply because that might somehow be used to get abortion rights reduced.
Someone has to take a stand for those babies. Shouldn't it be Christians?
You don't approve of a part-time mother??
Where have you been? With all the mothers working these days, where do you think their children stay? At DAYCARES, the other PT mother. Some would love to stay home and be mom FT but can't. That doesn't make them a bad mother. My mother had to work when I was growing up or we didn't eat.
As far as her teenage daughter, she is to be married. Do you know how many teenage girls decades ago were married right out of high school and pregnant? There might have been more mothers at home to assist them but is it really Palin's responsibility to put her life on hold because her teenage daughter got pregnant? Pleeezzz!! If anything, she is showing her daughter that this doesn't have to be the low point in her life. It can be a joyous time and the girl can look at her mother as an inspiration of what you can do.
Pardon me, but I couldn't care less if you approve of my opinion or my humor
This is the liberal board. It's very interesting that when one of you supposedly disappears, another shows up instantly to take the first one's place.
If you are truly interested in discussing this issue, then please tell me the points with which you disagree rather than rant and rave with personal attacks on my opinion and/or sense of humor.
why are you posting here?
I believe in personal responsibility. I dont believe you or the govt have a right to tell anyone what to do with their body. If my choices are wrong, I will stand in judgment when I meet my maker. I also dont follow in lock step with an administration that lies to the people about Iraq. Supporting our troops and not falling for lies about this illegal war are two different things. Yes, it is an illegal war. The world realizes this. The International Court of Justice realizes this. Of course, I support our troops and want them home. Believing in God is a personal decision and should not be shoved down others throats. I believe in separation of church and state, do not mix religion and politics. I dont believe we should have the state and/or president intervening when a spouse wants to let someone pass whose brain is half the size of a normal brain, living only due to rudimentary reflexes and I certainly do not think they should waste my tax dollars on trying to tie the hands of the spouse. These republicans/conservatives are way out of control in so many ways. It would be quite laughable if it wasnt so pitiful. I believe this is not a Christian country but a country with many religions and beliefs and I respect the people enough to let them choose what to believe. Seems to me nowadays democrats are acting like the way republicans used to, i.e., keep govt at a minimum and out of personal business, keep the budget balanced or as close to balance as possible. Republicans/conservatives are so off course right now. They are trying to invade into the states rights and personal rights. They have waged an immoral illegal war, my children and my childrens children will be paying to reduce this massive deficit, caused by republicans. Yes I oppose **liberating** other countries who dont ask us to help. Who the heck do we think we are, invading a soverign country and pushing our beliefs and religion and morals down their throats? Iraq is worse off today than it was under Saddam. Under Saddam, they had jobs, food, electricity, a life of certainty and definitely not lawlessness in the streets. We have killed tens of thousands of Iraqis with the excuse of liberating them. We have created a terrorist breeding ground and it will continue. The minute we kill off terrorists, their sons and daughters will rise up and fight back. We are just as bad as Saddam with our sickening war machine.
Thanks for posting this.
that's what it's all about.
posting
In an odd sense of.....oh...whatever, please continue to post here. No one wants you not to (gosh, it must be the green tea Im drinking this morning). *note to me, get rid of that darn republican green tea*..
Not posting here
What is it about this issue that makes you people think that anyone finds YOU to be a threat to the point where you are all suddenly retreating and saying you won't post here any more???????????
The problem is with the breach of security on this site. Unless you're the owner/moderator/administrator, this does not apply to you personally.
This issue should have been brought to the forefront on the company board a week ago when this incident happened, but I guess too many people were shocked by the blatant lack of ethics and the not so subliminal message that if anyone says anything negative about this company, your ISP will be tracked, and at that point, I, along with probable others, was afraid to post anything further.
why do they keep posting here?
For the life of me, I dont understand why these same bitter so angry conservatives come over to the liberal board and post. They are not wanted here. I guess the anger just builds up as they try to live their obviously unhappy lives and when they cant stand it any more, they come over here to start trouble. It just bugs the heck out of them that we are patriotic, love the troops and want them home alive. Some of these radical neocons actually say the troops are fighting for our freedom and freedom of speech? What? The war in Iraq has nothing to do with our freedom or freedom of speech. They will just throw anything out there to try to justify Bush's war. They sound so silly, just makes me shake my head and laugh. A bunch of fools.
Wow, thanks for posting
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Thanks for posting.
I really like Paul Krugman.
Thank you for posting this.
And thanks Lurker for writing it. Lurker brought up many, many valid issues and good points. I wonder why nobody on that other board even bothered to address those issues.
There was someone posting here sm
In fact several, and I thought one of them was you, who were listing lots of links that Bush engineered 9/11. I guess I was mistaken, but someone was posting it here.
Thank you for posting this!
My heart was really heavy...was I was not aware of this stance until this thread began. It is indeed heartening to know this. Thanks again!
Thanks for posting
I think you made my point better than I did when I was discussing this. I don't think it was always clear exactly how the program worked. From what I had read, the basics of the program were staying essentially the same - that the states had the control over who they covered. The only things, at least from what I saw, that the expansion did was allow the federal government to raise their limit (which states do not have to necessarily comply with, it just gives the states more options), collect more income for the states' programs, and allow more agencies to help decide eligibility. Everything would still essentially be in the states' hands.
Thanks for posting that
That's the sort of stuff I was looking for. The article I read was obviously skewed the other direction. In a way, I think it makes me like him more. There are so many people in this country who are completely turned off by politics. They see it as a bunch of rich white men controlling their lives. Because he is so candid about his past, I think there will be a large number of people who feel that they can relate to him better than any other candidate.
It sounds a little crazy to say, but I think his honesty will help him.
Thanks for posting!
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Hey sam....thanks so much for posting....sm
I knew you could explain it much more succinctly than I could.
Thank you for posting that. sm
Loved it!
Thanks for posting! nm
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Thanks for posting
I'm not meaning to start a riot either but my opinion, this nation was founded on the principal that "In God we Trust." We are no longer a Christian nation. God blessed this nation for 200+ years, then we allowed Him to be kicked out and look where we are today. Again, this is MY opinion.
Thanks for posting this, Sam.
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Thank you for posting this!
I am a Christian and have been struggling this past month, maybe the economy, maybe just myself feeling that I've not been doing all He wants me to. There is no ridicule from me; I agree with you totally and I am so glad you posted this. I've noticed a couple of posts where there is this misconception that Christians think we are better or something.
Christians - By Maya Angelou
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not shouting "I'm clean livin'."
I'm whispering "I was lost,
Now I'm found and forgiven."
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I don't speak of this with pride.
I'm confessing that I stumble
and need Christ to be my guide.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not trying to be strong.
I'm professing that I'm weak
And need His strength to carry on.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not bragging of success.
I'm admitting I have failed
And need God to clean my mess.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not claiming to be perfect,
My flaws are far too visible
But, God believes I am worth it.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I still feel the sting of pain.
I have my share of heartaches
So I call upon His name.
When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not holier than thou,
I'm just a simple sinner
Who received God's good grace, somehow!
Thank you for posting...
Unfortunately, there are too many people who do not seem to want peace and tolerance. The next leader has to be able to rise above this, but I think your 11-year-old son is very insightful. Lets hope he is wrong, huh?
Take care...and God protect us all
thank you for posting this ---
I have already voted, so this could not change my decision one way or another, but I was interested in knowing what was said first hand and not just reading about it second hand.
After watching this video, it is clear to me that he was not saying that he was Muslim - it was not a slip of tongue - he meant to say that questioning whether or not he was Muslim had not ever came out of John McCain's mouth. He even corrected GS when he tried to correct him...
I for one do not believe that Obama is a Muslim, practicing or nonpracticing, but at the same time, this country is built on diversity, being free to practice what religion you choose - as long as the President is not pushing his faith down your throat, mandating that it is the only right religion, what should it matter anyway what his/her faith might be? Why is it even an issue?
I am a Christian, but everyday I report to a boss that is not a Christian and I have no problem with that - she does not tell us in her employ that we have to practice her faith, and she does not keep us from practicing ours. When Bush got elected, he did not say that we all have to start being Methodist, but I don't see the Baptist protesting him because he is not Baptist, and the Church of God protesting because he was not Church of God, or the church of Christ protesting becaue he was not church of Christ.
Thank you for posting this.
I will be sending this to everyone I know and posting it on my myspace page. I want to get the word out to anyone and everyone about how big of a joke Obama really is. Nothing is for free and all his supporters are mesmerized by his preaching of hope and change and getting something for nothing......they are so mistaken. Nothing is for free! This is nothing bot socialism and giving money to people who don't work for it. Makes me sick!
Thank you for posting this -- sm
I'm going to share this with my DH tonight. We have discussing this election over and over and haven't been able to come up with a clear choice. Our biggest concern is the economy. Yes, I care about national security, but I think there are enough advisors on either campaign to handle that. What affects me most is money. Up until this point, we (DH and I) have been leaning to the left because it sounds like O's plans would be more beneficial to us. However, after reading this, I'm not so sure anymore. My husband and I work very hard to support our 3 kids and afford a nice home, vehicles and extras. The last thing I want is someone taking that away from me and giving it to the welfare group. They get enough breaks as it is.
I've said this numerous times -- McCain should be raising these issues in a better light, not counting on his supporters to find it. It's sad because I fear it may be too late already. Sometimes I think MC doesn't want to win this election.
Thanks for posting this :)
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Wow! Thanks so much for posting that! nm
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Thank you for posting
It is informative. I learned some things.
Thank you for posting this.
I have the same feelings about it and I just hope come election day, Americans will think about all of those things when voting. I had tears in my eyes yesterday worrying about it and I just can't for it to be over. I pray about it everyday.
So many are hateful with Bush and the last 8 years. He was by no means perfect but we didn't get attacked again and I am grateful for that. He imposed tax cuts which helped me greatly. I am so sick of Obama tying McCain to Bush. They are 2 different people. People are craving change so much, but at what price??? They will get change for sure. It will be the beginning of the end of democracy as we know it.
Don't forget, Kerry was ahead in the polls in 2004 and didn't win.
Thanks again for your post. Glad to know I am not alone in my feelings about this whole thing.
Yes - thank you for posting
this is a very important election and there are fears regardless of who gets in but my fear is much more when I think about Obama winning. I was thinking last night how sad it is that our country is so divided, some say I'm just paranoid, but I fear a civil war here in the US after election day.
I agree that Obama is mesmerizing. He tells us all what we want to hear. When I watched his 30-minute ad, I actually found myself thinking "wow"... that ad was brilliant on his part but scares me how many people actually bought into it.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. :)
Keep posting
Bots gotta wake up. This lady is from inside the camp herself. She saying what we all knew was going on. It's all phony and deceitful. Hope? Hope nobody will find out. Change? Change for the worst.
Listen to the people in campaigns. Obama never fooled me (well actually he did when he was running against Hillary and I voted for him), but glad I'm among the ones who have awoken.
why are u posting?
No one on here has infringed on your right to disbelieve. We are not calling you out on your disbelief. We are stating what we know to be the truth in our lives. That is a statement, not an infringement. So far as I know, no one has yet taken away our Christian rights to go tell it on the mountain. If I want to yell it from the roof tops that Jesus is real and he saves, if I want to write it all over this internet, if I want to scream it out on the streets all over the US, I have that right. It is my freedom to say what I believe, what I think on here. If you dont like the posts then it is your right not to read them. Dont come on here and insinuate that someone is infringing on your rights. I am sick and tired of everytime someone posts something about Jesus, someone else gets on here and starts whinning about how their rights were stepped on. So society tries to make us shut up, but in turn you are stepping all over our rights.
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Thank you for posting this
I never even thought about this. That's a really good idea to be prepared, and I'm actually going to start stocking up on stuff like this. I'll have to read about the depression more to learn how they got through it and follow suit.
Thanks again!
Thanks for posting this.........sm
I had been looking for that quote but could not find it as I could not remember who said it.
Thanks for posting this
The question of McCain's qualification to run for president was no more of an issue to me than that of Obama. Why presumably intelligent people on this board would keep it going is far beyond my comprehension.
Thanks for posting this, Dee. ............nm
How do you know she isn't posting under a different name?
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Thanks for posting that.
I looked on Congress.org and they listed all the yeahs and nays, but didn't say where they were from except those that shared the same last name.
Thanks for posting....(sm)
It's nice to hear from a conservative point of view and a highly respected conservative economist.
I like John Lott, and he talks common sense, in a way most people can understand.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lott
http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/
Thanks for posting this.
But I doubt it will get the message across.
Thanks so much for posting these.
They're wonderful.
First of all, posting your CV has nothing to do s/m
with whether you have a clue or not, for I have seen many impressive people on paper that I wouldn't bother to spit on if they were on fire, so I could give a rat's behind about your "CV".
That being said, I do believe it's none of your business how I choose to communicate with someone, but if you want to stick your nose in where it's not wanted, that's your call. Personally, I don't see why you would even waste your time involving yourself in a discussion you obvious have no interest in. Oh that's right, probably because you don't have a life.
nor is she posting with ...
a heart, any respect, any class or a very high IQ.
Actually, thanks for posting this....appreciate the info.
Not sure what all the rants are all about. You were simply echoing what Santorum said in a tongue-in-cheek kind of way. Thanks for sharing this article.
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