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burn baby burn!

Posted By: sm on 2009-02-25
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A Spanish mother has taken revenge on the man who raped her 13-year-old daughter at knifepoint by dousing him in petrol and setting him alight. He died of his injuries in hospital on Friday.


Antonio Cosme Velasco Soriano, 69, had been sent to jail for nine years in 1998, but was let out on a three-day pass and returned to his home town of Benejúzar, 30 miles south of Alicante, on the Costa Blanca.


While there, he passed his victim's mother in the street and allegedly taunted her about the attack. He is said to have called out "How's your daughter?", before heading into a crowded bar.


Shortly after, the woman walked into the bar, poured a bottle of petrol over Soriano and lit a match. She watched as the flames engulfed him, before walking out.


The woman fled to Alicante, where she was arrested the same evening. When she appeared in court the next day in the town of Orihuela, she was cheered and clapped by a crowd, who shouted "Bravo!" and "Well done!"


A judge ordered her to be held in prison and undergo psychiatric tests, provoking anger from friends and neighbours, who have set up a petition calling for her release.


Soriano suffered 60 per cent burns in the attack on June 13 and was airlifted to a specialist unit. He survived for 11 days before succumbing to his injuries.


It is understood that the woman, who cannot be named because of laws safeguarding the identity of rape victims, claims to have no recollection of the attack which took place in the Bar Mary, just 300 yards from the family home.


As decorators painted over the blackened walls of his bar last week, Antonio Ferrendez Lopez told how Soriano had walked in at lunchtime.


"The place was packed with people eating. I was sitting at a table and Soriano was standing at the bar very close to me when the woman walked in," he said. "She didn't acknowledge anyone but walked up to Soriano, who was drinking a coffee, put her hand on his shoulder and turned him round to face her.


"Then she pulled the bottle she was carrying from under her arm and began to tip it over him. At first I didn't realise what was happening, but then I smelt the petrol. I jumped up and tried to grab her, but when she struck a match I got clear.


"The petrol was in a pool around Soriano, and she threw the match into it. It ignited with a whoosh, and he screamed and staggered about covered in flames. As people rushed outside to escape the flames, she just looked at him, then turned and walked away."


Customers helped Mr Lopez put out the fire with extinguishers and doused Soriano with water until paramedics arrived.


Soriano's attack on the woman's teenage daughter took place in 1998. The girl was going to buy a loaf of bread when Soriano snatched her from the street, threatened her with a knife and raped her. Her mother is said to have suffered mental illness ever since.


Soriano was convicted of the rape and ordered to serve 13 years in jail. The sentence was later reduced to nine years on appeal.


The woman's lawyer, Joaquín Galant, told The Sunday Telegraph last night: "The family has suffered a double tragedy. First the attack on their daughter and now this. Both the father and his daughter would like to express their sadness at the death of Soriano."


Earlier, Mr Galant said that the woman did not deserve to be kept in prison. "For seven years she has been deeply affected by what was done to her daughter," he said. "This man, fresh from prison and asking how her daughter was, might be considered to have provoked her."




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I say we need to burn one down!! nm

burn in hell, you bet
Yup, Bush and his family should burn in hell for what they did to Iraq and our brave soldiers, you bet they should and judge you bet I will.  Dont like it?  Like I said before, prehistoric dinosaur, dont read my posts. 
Burn in hell??
I don't recall anyone here stating that they wished the president and his family to burn in hell. Did I miss something? I don't particularly care for the policies of the current president, but I have nothing against him personally, he actually seems like a good-hearted person. I don't wish for ANYONE to burn in hell.

Wow, that's rich.
and Obama has money to burn
AP) Democratic Sen. Barack Obama has raised $7.2 million for his presidential campaign since the first polls closed on Super Tuesday night, his campaign said Thursday, a remarkable figure that is causing concern among supporters of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Meanwhile Thursday, the Clinton campaign asked Obama to debate once a week, but he demurred.

Obama, riding a wave of fundraising from large donors and small Internet contributors, also raised $32 million in January.

Clinton acknowledged Wednesday that she loaned her campaign $5 million late last month as Obama was outraising and outspending her heading into Feb. 5 Super Tuesday contests. Some senior staffers on her campaign also are voluntarily forgoing paychecks as the campaign heads into the next round of contests.

Obama and Clinton outpaced all candidates in 2007, with each raising $100 million.

The Obama campaign said on its Web site that $7.2 million has been received since Tuesday evening. Campaign spokesmen said they were confident the figure was accurate.

Buoyed by strong fundraising and a primary calendar in February that plays to his strengths, Obama plans a campaign blitz through a series of states holding contests this weekend and will compete to win primaries in the Mid-Atlantic next week and Hawaii and Wisconsin the following week.

that might burn a hole in her blouse

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I have a priest, and he told us we would burn in
He[[ if we didn't vote for McCain and Palin. I'm not taking any chances - I'm voting Republican this year!
Could you please define "rub burn" so that
we can get to the substance of your comment?
Could you please define "rub burn" so that
we can get to the insightful substance of your comment?
Hey, you'll burn with the rest of us....
so douse yourself in Kool-Aid. Hmmm.....8 years = 2? months. Yeah, okay. Them's some real smarts!!!
It's okay for gt to wish people to burn in hell, THAT'S okay, but THIS is bashing. sm
Whiners.
Obama, Pelosi, Reid, et al.....are set to truly burn our
constitution to ashes, as well as our flag. Obama did that in real life, too, didn't he? Stood and watched the American flag being burned?


Bushy did his fair share in some eyes, I wager.


That's nothin' compared to what the incoming regime wants to do.


Come back in a year or less, and let's see who's right on this issue, hmmm?
Aaaahhhh! "Don't burn my virgin eyes with
'Heeelllp meee...........
I'm melllll-tinggg!"
No dupa - the shrub caused the crash and burn.......
Memory loss can signify medical issues which need to be attended to. Also, delusions can spell multiple significant issues which need to be addressed ASAP. Go with God.
And hoping for Bush and his daughters and wife to burn in hell is just kidding right? sm

Just want to get this clear.


The whole country would crash and burn. Do you know how many jobs in Michigan alone are auto related
Michigan might as well hang a sign on the door saying last one out, turn out the lights. But then if Obama has his way, we won't have any electricity either because the coal companies will be bankrupted too. Domino effect in my opinion.
I don't think any sane person would say wishing Bush would die and burn in hell is an actual death

...particulary in the context of a heated political forum.


I think people are needing to create some drama to justify their actions.


The point is that both sides are naughty at times.  I do notice more personal attacks by the C's though and I looked at the posts pretty carefully.  The L's seem to rely on political/lifestyle issues to upset the C's and the C's just seem to respond with barking orders and making personal attacks (liberals are sissies, etc.)


The difference is that only the L's seem to be deleted and chastised on a regular basis.  Isn't this rather unfair and un-American.  It's called a double-standard and is not a pretty sight (and makes this not a pretty site)!!!!


as a mother I would not subject my baby, or anyone's baby
to that type of situation. but then again, I am not the kind of mother who agrees with the village raising the child, or whatever Hillary used to say. to me the child's safety would come first above and beyond what I was doing, and I would not expose the baby to all that. that is just me.

mostly I am talking about at the end of her speech when the baby was being passed around and then she eventually grabbed him, half paying attention to him.

it is my opinion but I found it a little troubling and my heart kind of went out to that little baby.
Right on, baby!

Cuz you know, the answer my friend (to all this brouhaha) is blowin' in the wind......


I'm heading out now for a lunch with my Harley-riding, beer-swigging, antique-collecting redneck friend.  No kidding!!  Strange things can happen in this big ole universe and that's just the way I like it.  Actually, he quit drnking beer about 10 years ago, and quit riding the Harley after he went broke trying to sell antiques....but he's still pretty much of a redneck.


Thanks for helping me have a laugh and see some humor where I thought there was none!!


Except for the baby..............

Use the baby in WHAT way? If you want to know why
further than this board full of none other than women, most of whom I presume are MTs and therefore working mothers themselves!! How do you reconcile ripping someone down for being the very thing you are? By criticizing SP or Hillary or any other prominent woman figure who happens to be a mother, you are only applying the exact same things to yourselves, ladies. This has to be one of the most disgusting things I see on here. Take pot shots at her skills or work history, but how can you possibly rip on her for having a career and children? Do you want us all barefoot, pregnant, and waiting on Ward hand and foot again? Grow up. I, for one, am ashamed to be a woman and lumped in with such juvenile BS when I see this nonsense.

I didn't care for Hillary, but I still hailed the fact that she was campaigning. It meant maybe women are finally gaining recognition and respect. Want to know why our wages are less than men's and why every time women make one step forward, they take 2 steps back? It's because the very gender prominent women hope to elevate will attack those women out of jealousy or worse yet, because they don't happen to ascribe to their own set of beliefs. It makes the whole lot of us look petty and ridiculous.

There's a saying, it's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it to the world.
Welcome baby!
I didn't know there was such a thing!
what about the baby's
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okay what about the baby?

Yes, I do believe you should be able to do whatever you decide to your own body so long as others are not endangered in the process.


Well what about baby?  Baby isnt endangered in the process.  I would called being killed endangered.  But I guess you are saying that it isnt a baby yet.  I dont get that.  A tadpole doesnt look like a frog but it is still a living thing.  It just hasnt matured.  A caterpillar isnt a butterfly but it is still alive, it just hasnt matured.  So a fetus that is developing is still alive, just not matured.  So because a fetus doesnt turn into something that looks like a baby in a matter of minutes or hours is okay to kill because it takes a while to mature?  The video that you do not want to see shows a 19 week old baby girl.  She has red hair.  She is fully formed, just tiny.  She was aborted by saline.  The saline poured all over her body and burned her to death.  She has black burn marks all over her little arms and legs and body.  She is curled up like a little angle.  Are you telling me that she did feel that just because no one could hear her misery?  She wasnt a living thing?  Sorry, but it is murder and it is wrong.  You dont have to even believe in God to understand that.


Such a baby!
You can poke and jab at others and make fun of what they say, but when it turns on you, you are suddenly "better" than everyone else? How so? You act like a little baby who starts a fight and then runs away. Don't play the innocent victim card. Go back and read some of your insulting posts, THAT is the reason people are "ganging up" on you and your superiority. Guess you better "show us" and just go away. Please....
ALWAYS WILL BABY.
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Must have had soy in his baby formula sm

According to an article on World Net Daily:


Soy is making kids 'gay'





Posted: December 12, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern



By Jim Rutz




© 2006 


There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a health food, one of our most popular.

Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into his kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll know I'm not anti-health food.

The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore.

(Column continues below)




I have nothing against an occasional soy snack. Soy is nutritious and contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you're also getting substantial quantities of estrogens.

Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, you're flooding your system with a substance it can't handle in surplus. If you're a man, you're suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your female side, physically and mentally.

In fetal development, the default is being female. All humans (even in old age) tend toward femininity. The main thing that keeps men from diverging into the female pattern is testosterone, and testosterone is suppressed by an excess of estrogen.

If you're a grownup, you're already developed, and you're able to fight off some of the damaging effects of soy. Babies aren't so fortunate. Research is now showing that when you feed your baby soy formula, you're giving him or her the equivalent of five birth control pills a day. A baby's endocrine system just can't cope with that kind of massive assault, so some damage is inevitable. At the extreme, the damage can be fatal.

Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products. (Most babies are bottle-fed during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth of them are getting soy milk!) Homosexuals often argue that their homosexuality is inborn because I can't remember a time when I wasn't homosexual. No, homosexuality is always deviant. But now many of them can truthfully say that they can't remember a time when excess estrogen wasn't influencing them.

Doctors used to hope soy would reduce hot flashes, prevent cancer and heart disease, and save millions in the Third World from starvation. That was before they knew much about long-term soy use. Now we know it's a classic example of a cure that's worse than the disease. For example, if your baby gets colic from cow's milk, do you switch him to soy milk? Don't even think about it. His phytoestrogen level will jump to 20 times normal. If he is a she, brace yourself for watching her reach menarche as young as seven, robbing her of years of childhood. If he is a boy, it's far worse: He may not reach puberty till much later than normal.

Research in 2000 showed that a soy-based diet at any age can lead to a weak thyroid, which commonly produces heart problems and excess fat. Could this explain the dramatic increase in obesity today?

Recent research on rats shows testicular atrophy, infertility and uterus hypertrophy (enlargement). This helps explain the infertility epidemic and the sudden growth in fertility clinics. But alas, by the time a soy-damaged infant has grown to adulthood and wants to marry, it's too late to get fixed by a fertility clinic.

Worse, there's now scientific evidence that estrogen ingredients in soy products may be boosting the rapidly rising incidence of leukemia in children. In the latest year we have numbers for, new cases in the U.S. jumped 27 percent. In one year!

There's also a serious connection between soy and cancer in adults – especially breast cancer. That's why the governments of Israel, the UK, France and New Zealand are already cracking down hard on soy.

In sad contrast, 60 percent of the refined foods in U.S. supermarkets now contain soy. Worse, soy use may double in the next few years because (last I heard) the out-of-touch medicrats in the FDA hierarchy are considering allowing manufacturers of cereal, energy bars, fake milk, fake yogurt, etc., to claim that soy prevents cancer. It doesn't.

P.S.: Soy sauce is fine. Unlike soy milk, it's perfectly safe because it's fermented, which changes its molecular structure. Miso, natto and tempeh are also OK, but avoid tofu.


 


Speak for you own baby...
zzzzzzzzzzzz
She is not leaving the baby. sm
This is either another Carl Rove bait and switch or McCain is truly demented.  As someone else said, "does not pass the smell test". 
a Down baby and a pregnant

teenager?  Good golly, how many calamities will Mrs. Palin ignore in her own house.  I don't want somewhat like that as a heartbeat from running my country.


 


Down syndrome baby
or 'normal' baby...if the baby did not have Down syndrome no comment would've been made, except "Oh, how cute." I think it was precious the way the baby sister licked her hand and combed the baby's hair. REGULAR PEOPLE.
Achtung baby!

Song title.


 


yeah baby, WHAT IF?
Big flipping deal. 
A baby costs.....
It was $6,000 in 2002.

$2,500 if you paid cash in advance.
Yes, I could! It is MY baby and MY belly!..nm
and the embroy starts only to live during the 5th month!
Yes, I can, I would have a calmer conscience than knowing that my child is out there somewhere, in the hands of strangers, not knowing HOW they are treating him/her.
I prefer to give it back to God, before it starts to live!
My embryo is MY embryo and it is not COMMON property.
YES, I COULD.
And don't ever forget it, baby. Believe
someone around to remind you, YES YOU DID!
My baby sister (in her 50s) says
Obama speaks 'real elegant' and also told me prior to the election that he does not use notes because he has a 'photogenic memory.'  This is the sister who dropped out of high school and stays tuned to the MSM 24/7.  Love her, but sometimes I need subtitles when we speak.  Sort of like listening to comedian Norm Crosby (if anyone else is old enough to remember him.)
Poor baby...(sm)

Using the term "teabaggers" is rude?  I shouldn't ridicule others with different beliefs?  Give me a break.  You guys have consistently ridiculed anyone who agrees with Obama time and time again on this board, as well as those who just don't agree with you.  Rude?  How about Kool-Aid drinkers, Obamatrons.....you know the list.


The problem with you is that you can dish it out but can't take it.  If you plan on teabagging effectively you might want to consider growing a pair. 


Not sure how this 'anchor baby' law
came to be, but a whole family can stay in this country if they can manage to have a baby here. 
In little baby steps it is happening. sm
I call myself a Republican in recovery. Sooner or later, I hope the sheep stop sleeping or God bless them or us all. Remember Always stand on principle, even if you stand alone. John Quincy Adams
I heard she did not have a baby, but her 16-year-old
daughter did.  The daughter missed the last 4-5 months of school.
That baby sure was QUIET throughout that whole noisy
?
really, how many people held the baby, 4?
The middle sister, Cindy McCain, the father, and the youngest daughter?

OMG HOW HORRIBLE!!!
Have you ever thought maybe she wanted a baby
My cousin at 16 wanted a baby. Her parents tried talking her out of it. Explained what her life would be like. Told her about safe sex, birth control, etc. She still got pregnant and had a beautiful baby and she's a good mother. My other cousin (her sister) wanted a baby. Again my aunt and uncle talked to her. At 17 she had her baby and she is a wonderful mother.

So think people....it is possible her daughter wants a baby. Especially if all of her friends are having babies.
Yeah and to he** with the baby's rights.
Not a person worthy of my trust. Your trust is yours to give to whoever. Have a nice day.
don't toss out baby with bathwater...
I'm a right-wing, Bible-reading, family-values person and Republican, maybe even could be considered fire and brimstone, definitely fundamental, and yet am NOT intolerant, not racist, not even Bible "thumping". So let's not be intolerant and generalizing. Radical right or radical left are still radical, and not representative of the whole. savy??
Oh well, life ain't fair baby...
nm
Gitmo was Bush's baby......
That pile of feces just exited the building - you get over it. The people held in Gitmo did not blow up the USS Cole. Christ.
Baby steps is the key to success!
President Obama knows exactly what he is doing. He knows it won't happen overnight, and he knows it is not always going to please everyone, but he know that it must be done!
This so reminds me of one of those baby books

people put together for their first kid.  Video of the delivery.  Baby's handprint and footprint. Lock of hair from Baby's first haircut.  Picture of Baby taking his first step.  First tooth Baby loses, and on and on and on.....


What's the followup plan for the 200th day and the 300th?  I'd like to pencil this on my calendar. 


AHEM - MY BABY HAD NO BRAIN. sm
It was totally 100% incompatible with life, so don't give me that bull**t about the health vs murder argument.

You are a cold-hearted SOB if you think I aborted for any other reason.
oh yeah baby! pave the way to kick W out.

Bush may have only made one smart decision his whole life, and that was having someone even more evil, twisted, and money hungry than himself be his vice president.  Even the harshest Bush critics don't want him impeached because no one wants Cheney, aka the Devil's spawn and the King of Corruption, running things! I don't care if I sound outrageous and mean - I am so sick of the Bush administration's corruption I could just scream - or cry.  Their crimes cannot continue!  But it's like Bill Maher said, this country has f@!* up fatigue.  Our tolerance for the outrageously inappropriate actions of this administration is getting pretty high.  Nothing they could do would shock me at this point. blah.