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• Since we obviously aren't going to be able to have..(sm) - Just the big bad
  • Politicians and their love lives - Trigger Happy
  • It was mentioned that he was separated at the time - sbMT
    • I think the thing to note here...(sm) - Just the big bad
      • I agree to a certain extent - see message - just me
    • Separated, he was still married - SS
      • yes, seoparated is still married, no flings allowed...nm - ()
  • Not one peep all day - until a reason - to start trouble - nm
  • You are SO boring.... - z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z
    • **What are you saying**? That you don't - know enough to mention even ONE?
    • Intelligence bores you? - Stating the obvious
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          • I wanted to, but DH said no. - Backwards typist
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          • because conservatives stick to the old, - ()
            • You are kidding right???? This is what I'm talking about - just me
              • Really? (sm) - Just the big bad
              • acc. to your judgment; WHAT is a liberal and what is an independent?..nm - ()
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                  • Independent versus Liberal...sm - ()
                    • Individual liberty? Why allow the Government - so much power then? O wants to control everything.
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        • I agree with you too, JTBB. - No intelligent conversation here now.
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          • That's not "grilling" it's called questioning what is wrong - just me
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              • blah, blah, blah yourself - talk about no intellingent conversation - just me
                • blah, blah, that's all there is to converse about your long comment...nm - ()
                  • Wow, the intelligence in this message is astounding - just me
              • these 8 (eight) years over!...nm - ()
          • How pathetic. I am not scared by intelligence. - I am scared of Obama, since he shows very little.n
            • this is slandering the President of the United States..sm - ()
              • And you don't have any proof otherwise - hmmmm
          • Question...did you grill Bush on anything and everything? - watcher
        • Oh, rad, get serious. Look at this OP - -intelligent post? thats actually funny!l nm

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"changed their minds to save our lives".  Wow, you really believe that crap don't you?  Yea, that's right, let's be like all the other barbaric countries that use torture.  Two wrongs don't make a right.  By the way, I do believe that ANYONE involved in giving the go ahead on "enhanced interrogation" should be prosecuted -- pubs and Dems alike.

It's been proven time and time again that torture does not give reliable results.  In fact, one of the most reliable pieces of information was obtained from giving a diabetic a cookie.  Yea, I guess treating someone like a human being just doesn't work. 

I am much less terrified by the "terrorists over there" than I am by the crazy rightwing loonies here in the country.  Those are the ones you really should be concerned about!!

Hi Lurker!!  Since you are the only one who seems to feel it necessary to post things like this.  I wasn't being disrespectful in any way.  If I was, I am sure the moderator would have deleted my posts.  Many of you on this board don't even respect the moderator.  Fact is, I've seen many on this board attack the moderator and administrator.  It is people like you who don't follow the rules. But hey, it's Christmas and I am not going to get caught up in your silly immature games.  Have a good one!

Same thing rehashed over and over again below. You will never reach the cold-hearted, evil ones with your message, so you should probably just give up, lol!

-- Now it's been said twice, so it must be twice as funny.

Nah, I dont think terrorists will come my way but, however, when I move back to NY next year (cant wait), if a terrorist decides to blow up my beloved subway system or Long Island railroad, I dont think a gun would mean much.  I do suggest Bush check out our borders cause right now Im living in CA, two hours from the Mexican border and it is quite easy to get across, without a problem at all and he should also check out the trucking industry cause there has been a question that possibly they can blow up trucks but, however, you cant live your life in fear.  Im not afraid..Im living my life as I have.  Im not afraid to die..With introspection, however, I am a bit fearful of suffering, so if it ever happened, I would hope I would die, not suffer, ya know? 

I heard Bush this morning saying that no one predicted or knew that the New Orleans levees would give way.  Well, that is not true.  This was widely predicted by engineers and meteologists.  The engineers predicted it for years if/when a major hurricaine hit, as well as engineers and meteorologists predicting this 1-2 days before Katrina.  I even told my boyfriend last Sunday night that they were predicting some levees would break, that New Orleans would be in water the same depth as Lake Pontchartrain and that thousands could die.  Gee, guess I should be a White House advisor.

My other gripe is that this federal response seems a bit slow.  Like maybe Monday afternoon things should have been put into motion instead of......Thursday?  But then, I'm sure not an expert.

Why did you choose the Hilter comparison?

Here is what I saw in Hitler:

1.  Megalomania - yes, possibly in Bush.

2.  Skillful use of the propaganda of hate to unite a nation and incite a lust for war.  Blaming of select ethnic group for Germany's woes -- yes, I see some similarity there, but Bush seems more like "oops, sorry I accidentlly killed you" to the Iraquis (Islam nations) rather than "I will place you in concentration camps until you are all exterminated." 

3.  Hitler was mentally ill but still capable of great, inspirational speeches and inspiring confidence in the masses -- Bush is kind of dopey and I'm not sure who he inspires, really, if much of anyone.

4.  Hitler seemed to have an agenda to exterminate -- as mentioned, I don't see that in Bush.

Well, I had fun with this.  WWII is an area that I know quite a bit about.

Did gt actually say there were NO socialist Jews?  I took her to mean that Jews in general should not be categorized as socialists.  There are probably socialist Irish, socialist Catholics, socialist African-Americans....but that doesn't mean you label the entire ethnic group as such.  Common sense would dictate this.  Just as I keep saying, you cannot label all liberals or all democrats as having the same ideals and belief systems.  You seem to keep trying to put square pegs in round holes here....or, as also has been mentioned...thinking only in black and white when the world and all its people are shades of gray.  It makes me very sad to see this and I end up feeling hopeless about the future of our country and of the world.

As far as Chomsky, I haven't read tons of his writing but what I did read a few years ago I very much liked.  Could it be a case of you taking some things he wrote out of context?  Or perhaps some things he wrote were more fiery or radical than you were comfortable with?  Perhaps you didn't survey his writings as a whole and only picked out a few you didn't like.  When you make an accusation as you did, please provide examples to back up your comments.

I think I do your understand your point....basically you are saying his comment was taken out of context?  It did seem that what I read of this quote was more that he was careless in his comments - they touched a nerve, as I said.  It seemed he was looking at a cultural problem from a tongue-in-cheek statistical line of reasoning, and perhaps spoke before thinking.  At least, I HOPE that's all it was.  I have not read this all that carefully, I must admit.  I also admit I know NOTHING about him personally or his past.

Thanks for your intelligent commentary.

Obviously your beliefs bring you solace and comfort and that is a benefit that religion offers, in my opinion, and that is very good if it helps you.

However, perhaps you should not generalize.  I was a hospice worker as well as watching my mother die from cancer.  She was a life-long agnostic and I don't believe it ever even crossed her mind to call out to Jesus or Zeus or any other deity.  She made the most graceful exit from this world I have ever seen and was at peace with that process. 

I do agree though that in times of extreme stress many folks may want to enlist the aid of a higher power, but please don't assume that we all turn to Jesus.

(Basically, Russia wants to be able to trust the USA again but is deploying "short-range missiles near Poland to counter U.S. military plans in Eastern Europe" in response to Bush's missile placement in Poland and the Czech Republic.)

From: 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081105/ap_on_re_eu/eu_russia_medvedev

After the speech, the Kremlin announced Medvedev had congratulated Obama for winning the U.S. presidency, saying in a telegram he was "counting on a constructive dialogue with you on the basis of trust and taking each other's interests into account."