black and white thinking

in other words seeing someone as all bad or all good is not an indicator of high intelligence.  Beware.

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The paragraph I don't like is the following:

"We are the keepers of this legacy. Guided by these principles once more, we can meet those new threats that demand even greater effort - even greater cooperation and understanding between nations. We will begin to responsibly leave Iraq to its people, and forge a hard-earned peace in Afghanistan. With old friends and former foes, we will work tirelessly to lessen the nuclear threat, and roll back the specter of a warming planet. We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its defense, and for those who seek to advance their aims by inducing terror and slaughtering innocents, we say to you now that our spirit is stronger and cannot be broken; you cannot outlast us, and we will defeat you.

It clearly gives an open door for the terrorists to test him. 

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/01/20/president-obamas-inaugural-address/

Only in some Hollywood movies are people all good or all bad.  I'm sure Chavez is capable some good or at least middle-of-the-road words/deeds.   And I have to say that some stuff Chomsky has written pre-Iraq war was actually pretty good (now I said SOME stuff here, not ALL).  It's very hard for me to give blanket condemnation of just about anyone (with the exception of serial killers, etc.). 

It also occurs to me that you may possibly consistently hold up Chomsky, Churchill and now Chavez (the three C's) as examples of how the left is crazy.  Well, I think most sane people know that they don't represent the vast majority of liberals.  I think deep down you know that, too.

You know, I know that most people do not understand the situation.  I know you may have "black friends", "mixed friends", "white friends", and therefore you think you know how they feel about their color, but you just don't.

First let me say, I am white - BUT I am married to a black man, I have 2 mixed grandchildren, 4 mixed stepchildren, both my sisters are married to black men, and I have 4 mixed nieces and nephews, and I have countless friends with black children, white children, and mixed children.

Now, each one of those children identify with one race or another - they see themselves as just people when they are younger, but as they age they "pick" a side...  and I see it in every one of them.

My 4 year old grandson (who looks like a black child) has just this week asked why we have to hang out with black people all the time, that they are mean (he does not realize yet that he is also black)...  my 13 year old nephew (who looks like a black child) had a girlfriend whose parents would not let them talk to each other because he is black; my 14 year old nephew (who looks white) has no problems talking to the white girls if he wants to because their families all think he is white (have actually heard people say, "boy that white boy plays ball like he's black). 

My point is that most of the time, a mixed child always identifies more with one race or another and that it is predominantly the race that they look like.  I don't think that it is wrong for Obama to feel like he was ingratiating himself to the white people because I see it happening in mixed kids all the time.  They have to act "white" to be accepted by white people - it's just a fact. 

*there is a great many people ready to believe in anything, even a black man from a corrupt Chicago political machine with a nice smile and pretty words. *

Yes, it is a historic event for a black man to become president, as is readily recognized and rightfully so.  However, the OP used *even a black man* in what can only be described as a derogatory manner.  -- ready to believe in anything -- even a black man -- followed by more derogatory comments.  To read a statement like this that was obviously meant to be demeaning and pick out one aspect and try to paint that as an innocent description is ridiculous.  Do you really think she meant to add a compliment in the midst of that statement?  I think not.  In fact, even the phrase *with a nice smile and pretty words* was meant as a sarcastic representation.  I'm not making a mountain out of a mole hill here.  This was obviously a racist statement.  If Obama were white do you think the post would have included the statement *even a white man?*  Of course it wouldn't.  Why do you think that is?  I think the OP managed to show her true colors on this one, whether or not she even realized it. 

Subject: Thinking is > dangerous > > > > > > It started out innocently enough. > > I began to think at parties now and then -- to loosen up. > > Inevitably, though, one thought led to another, and soon I was more than > just a > social thinker. > > I began to think alone -- to relax, I told myself -- but I knew it > wasn't > true. > > Thinking became more and more important to me, and finally I was thinking > all > the time. > > That was when things began to sour at home. One evening I had turned off > the > TV > and asked my wife about the meaning of life. > > She spent that night at her mother's. > > I began to think on the job. > > I knew that thinking and em! ployment don't mix, but I couldn't stop myself. > > I began to avoid friends at lunchtime so I could read Thoreau and Kafka. > > I would return to the office dizzied and confused, asking, What is it > exactly > we are doing here? > > One day the boss called me in. > > He said, Listen, I like you, and it hurts me to say this, but your > thinking > has > become a real problem. If you don't stop thinking on the job, you'll have > to > find another job. > > This gave me a lot to think about. > > I came home early after my conversation with the boss. > > Honey, I confessed, I've been thinking... > > I know you've been thinking, she said, and I want a divorce! > > But Honey, surely it's not that serious. > > It is serious, she said, lower lip aquiver. You think as much as &! gt; college > professors, and college professors don't ! make any money, so if you keep on > thinking, we won't have any money! > > That's a faulty syllogism, I said impatiently. > > She exploded in tears of rage and frustration, but I was in no mood to > deal > with > the emotional drama. > > I'm going to the library, I snarled as I stomped out the door. > > I headed for the library, in the mood for some Nietzsche. > > I roared into the parking lot with NPR on the radio and ran up to the big > glass > doors... > > They didn't open. The library was closed. > > To this day, I believe that a Higher Power was looking out for me that > night. > > Leaning on the unfeeling glass, whimpering for Zarathustra, a poster > caught > my > eye. > > Friend, is heavy thinking ruining your life? it asked. > > You probably recognize that line.! It comes from the standard Thinker's > Anonymous poster. Which is why I am what I am today: a recovering thinker. > > I never miss a TA meeting. At each meeting we watch a non-educational > video; > last week it was Porky's. Then we share experiences about how we avoided > thinking since the last meeting. > > I still have my job, and things are a lot better at home. > > Life just seemed...easier, somehow, as soon as I stopped thinking. > > I think the road to recovery is nearly complete for me. > > Today, I registered to vote as a Republican...

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m

Is just as wrong as not voting for because he/she is black

I am afraid that too many folks casting their votes will be doing it for these reasons, and that is scary

I personally feel the McCain hasn't been able to attack Obama like he should because they are too afraid of the race card being played.....and let's face it.....the race card is being played as it is. 

I guess you could say I have not walked in a black person's shoes.  However, don't for one second think that I have never felt racism.  I've seen the glares and dirty looks aimed in my direction by black people.  I've given smiles to strangers who instead of smiling back would glare hatefully at me.  I've said, "I have a nice day," to people who have either given me a dirty look or turned their back to me. 

I was at a hospital visiting my dying father when I left with my son to get something to eat.  My son is very young and has a developmental delay.  A black mother and her daughter walked onto the elevator with us.  My son, not knowing any better, looked at the little girl and commented that she was brown.  Without even thinking I said, "Yes she is.  Isn't she beautiful!"  The mother gave me the dirtiest look.