a pick-me-up for Congress???
Posted By: cj on 2009-06-26
In Reply to: Double standards?...(sm) - Just the big bad
you're kidding right?? Pick them up from what? all the hard work they have been doing finding new ways to spend our money??
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Who to pick?
I truly do not like either McCain or Obama. I don't want to NOT vote. I don't want to stay in the same course we are in.....which counts McCain out. But I don't want to vote for change just for the sake of change. If it were a change I could believe in and have faith....okay....but I don't and so that counts Obama out. So now what? 
VP pick
I don't know anything about her really, but I was just telling my husband last night that the only way McCain is going to be able to keep this race competitive at all would be to pick a pro-life woman. I didn't think he would really and my husband couldn't think of any (and he's a repub). As a Democrat I of course would have loved it if McCain would have picked Lieberman to demoralize the base or Huckabee to demoralize the independents, but ah well. It's a smart pick, I have to say.
I'd pick you to mod if I had the say
just to prove that it wouldn't matter who was moderating to me. I'm confident in my party, how 'bout you?
Take your pick from above.........
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where is my pick my up?
I pay and pay and I never get any pick me up. Since you would much rather pay for it, go ahead, pay for it. Don't ask me to pay, though, because I would much rather not. I think I paid enuff all ready.
Don't we pick and choose
Don't we pick which Bible adages we follow? The Bible also says turn the other cheek, love thy neighbor as thyself, do unto others....yet many Christians in various venues (including these boards) chide others for being advocates of peace, tolerance and love for all citizens of the world.
The Bible has contradictions, it was written by men, after all and seems incredibly subject to interpretation.
He should pick Hillary
They are two peas in a pod. It was evidenced by his speech tonight he thinks she such a great person. I could just feel the love he has for her. Seriously...they voted alike on almost everything. I think his speach tonight was more of him trying to pull her votes away from Barack to vote for him.
that should be "who" is your pick... duh (nm)
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Well said. If we could only pick and choose who to help..
someone as yourself would be on top of my list!
You know, at this point he could pick
Jesus Christ to be in his cabinet and you people would find some something to b**ch about that, too. Good grief!!
You can't pick and choose WHEN you
want majority rule to count. The people have spoken, they don't want it, try again next time.
He wasn't my first pick....(sm)
However, we are now at a point where time is the word of the day. Here's my problem with the situation. If he's so terrible, why are they voting him in? That applies to dems and pubs, as both sides have expressed concern. So, we know they're going to vote him in, so what's the point in all the delays? I think at this point it's just political grandstanding by the pubs. They did the same thing with Hillary. The guy that held that one up actually voted for her, and said he was going to vote for her, but still delayed the process.
For that matter, check out the attorney general position. What's the problem with Holder? On this one the pubs want to *question* him more about torture. Exactly what do the pubs want to hear? Maybe *torture is wrong, but we won't prosecute?* More pollitical grandstanding.
May we pick which finger??
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I'll pick one...LOL...(sm)
You said: "What about the voters of CA voting against gay marriage and now it's supposedly going to the Supreme Court? That's ridiculous. Since when is the Supreme Court allowed to overturn the voter's wishes? "
My question to you would be when was the last time it was okay for individual rights to be taken away with a popular vote? Individual rights are guaranteed by the constitution (which discourages discrimination), not subject to the vote of the day. That is why it needs to go to the supreme court. Do you think it would be okay to all of the sudden pop up and have a vote in 2009 on whether or not women can vote when we already have that right? On top of that, the state supreme court has now ruled that prop 8 stands, so at this point LGBTs cannot get married. However, (and here comes the double standard), LGBTs who are already married can stay married? What kind of reasoning is that? As far as I'm concerned, this is a textbook case of discrimination.
It isn't fair to pick out a few bad apples...
...and characterize a whole group based on them. And you're also right about Conservatives (loosely put) not always agreeing with one another, especially these days. Seems dissent among the ranks is breaking wide open.
But regardless of degree of badness of the apples in general - any group as a whole who supports Bush remains suspect as a whole because there is simply no reason left for an intelligent person to do so. Most who still do, do so because they aren't aware of the facts and aren't very good judges of character. Just my opinion, but I stand by it, and see more proof of it every day.
No, but I do hear him saying "don't pick
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Okay Republicans, you is YOUR pick for McCain VP?
I'm not looking to start either a we-love-McCain or we-hate-McCain thread (same for Obama), just curious to hear from the Republicans here who they would like to see McCain pick. It sounds like he may announce Friday.
Dems are also ecstatic over this pick.
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No. It was sexist of him to pick a token fm
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anyone else insulted over the Palin pick?
As an American woman I am insulted over the cynical pick of Sarah Palin as the Republican VP. She has a vaginia and everything I believe is supposed to suddenly escape my female pee sized brain?! I am suppose to want to vote Republican because they pick a woman? This proves the Republicans are insane.
Sarah Palin is against abortion and does not believe in birth control.
Sarah does not believe in evolution and thinks all schools should teach creationism.
She doesn't have an opinion on the Iraq war.
She is a pro gun person.
She doesn't believe in global warming.
She oppose gay marriage.
She is against putting polar bears on the endangered species list.
She is an advocate strongly for drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
Her husband works for BP (British Petroleum) and she pushed for another pipeline to be built in Alaska.
At the age of 45, since she does not believe in birth control, had another baby and he has down syndrome. This seems to me to be pretty poor judgement on her part.
She says she has family values, she is a Governor and her husband works on the North Shore full time, who raises the Palin kids?
Palin has her sisters ex husband fired from the Alaska State Patrol.
Can anyone say abuse of power?
Palin was a Mayor of a 9,000 person town and has been Governor for only 20 months.
She voted for pat Buchanan over George Bush in 2000. If you think Bush is bad Buchanan is even worse.
She stated on 7/30/2008 she does not know what the VP does every day.
Gos is named her kids Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig.
The major newspapers in Alaska do not think she should be the VP pick.
Her mother-in-law said she is voting for Obama.
So America, is this this a responsible pick from a 72 year old man who has had repeated bouts of cancer? Do you want Palin running our country? Does being a lucky beauty queen now give people the credentials to be the VP?
Look....if liberals can pick and choose...
statements of what someone said once and once they say now...so can conservatives. You can't have it both ways.
Yep, as long as none of us pick up a phone or
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Whether you agree or disagree with this pick...
Maybe we should all check the facts before judging this guy. Actions speak much louder than words. Below are 2 sites, The first is a list of bills he sponsored. The other is his voting record.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400120&tab=bills
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=33530
Kissinger seems to think she's a good pick (sm)
http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-11-16-voa17.cfm
we pick up new accounts all the time...
like I said, the cpl pay is low comparatively, but I do alright. By the way, I certainly didn't mean to offend you!
Are we going to pick on his toileting habits next?
How petty.
Take your pick--World Net Daily or
Sad, just sad.
Excuse me but what do you mean by pick and choose?
Obama has NO right to 'pick and choose.' He cannot interfere in Iran's sovereignty and internal affairs only with the justification that he supports and defends democracy. I wished he could! But he cannot, this would have been a grave mistake, a bigger mistake than Iraq.
The Iranian government's reaction would have been to tell Obama 'Mind your own business.'
You would pick a fight with anyone, wouldnt you?
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That's not necessarily true. You've been able to pick up the slack sm
for them very nicely if I may say so myself.
This does not cost anything. Just pick a card and a message...sm
Or even type your own message and Xerox handles the mailing. This is neat.
Pick McCain's VP running mate!
MSNBC has a "Veepstakes" where you get to make picks on who McCain will pick for VP, and that's kind of fun. I have no idea who he will pick, but here are some names that are bounced around:
Bobby Jindal (I think too young at 36, but religious right seems to like him, which is more than I can say for McCain, so maybe that would help him there).
Charlie Crist (McCain totally owes him for helping him boost to front runner affter Florida, but he's kind of liberal for base's tastes).
Mitt Romney (the favorite in the "Veepstakes." Would help McCain in some places like Michigan, could hurt in deep south).
Mike Huckabee (may help in the south, but I can't see any other benefit).
so you pick one miniscule part of the bible
not sure why you people are still gullible enough to believe in that ancient book anyway.
Who is Palin's pick for running mate again?
Be careful what you wish for -
there are so many scenarios how this could play out. I think republicans (the men) need to watch their backs with this person. they are infatuated right now but this person after all is a self-described pitbull (with lipstick).
I heard someone call this play by the republicans a 'hail mary' like in football, but no matter which party you side with, it was very worrisome watching that little baby be passed around like a football throughout the convention last night...it almost made me sick.
All this proves is that liberals pick and choose...
freedom of religion? Like ANY of you ascribe to that? Lemme seee----go back to your church. Ummm...bible-thumpin gun moll...I would have to search, but you get my drift. Yes, i know what choice is. Me, and some like me, also believe the infant should have a choice, but you certainly jumped right in and circumvented that one didn't you?
No big surprise here....you pick and choose the facts you want...sm
to read and hear. I'm tired of trying to educate you.
Meanwhile, Barry Obama can do no wrong, and the facts are spun in the media to his direction, making him look like the poster boy for "poor me" they're trying to "smear me" ....
No matter that it is all TRUE!!!!!
Well, boo hoo.
Barry worked for ACORN, was and is, friends with terrorists and racists and liberal democratic former CEOs of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, people who hate this country and all it stands for are his so called "friends" that he has thrown under the bus.
Watch, if he wins, they'll all pop out of the woodwork again.
That man lies and rewrites his life story, and you all believe him.
That old saying that goes: Show me a person's friends and those he surrounds himself with, and it will show you who he is.
Well, I certainly don't like and trust what and who Barry Obama.
Gee, how come there is NO ONE from Barry's former or current life, that are friends that can stand up for his character?
The street is always one-way for the democrats, the biggest spin doctors around.
I'll take SP over O any day.
Well why doesn't he put his money where his mouth is. Pick a...
neighborhood, any neighborhood. With the next check he gets for being a senator (and yeah, we are still paying him, and he hasn't darked the doors of the senate maybe 2-3 times since he starting running for Prez...), he should cash it, then go divvy it up with all the folks in the neighborhood. Just share that wealth, Barack. Lead by example.
You can't spell or pick a winner; it's torture, not tortue
Keep chomping those sour grapes.
Notice how I did't hand-pick text to prove a point.
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You're still eating aren't you? Lets pick this back
Or maybe you know enoug folks that will be getting the free handouts and can live off of them, like I see going on around my town already.
Stop watching TV or googling, and please pick up a REAL history text without bias, it is not a parti
even I bet George Bush is looking for authors to do so....perhaps he will get out his crayons and try it himself, after he masters "See spot run. See VP Cheney run with his Halliburton $$$$$$$."
Well all the Dem congress can do...
is run pointless investigations and make absolutely ludicrous comments that like Pete Stark saying today on the house floor that all the President wants to do is send our sons and daughters to Iraq to get shot for his own entertainment. Mr. Stark and several other useless dems are the chimps, because they couldn't use crude tools much, much less legislate. They've proven that point quite well over the last 10 months.
Their majority is going to be fleeting if they keep this up, because even their own constituents are getting steamed at their lack of progress.
Congress
Actually the Congress should be smarter than to be snookered. They're snookered because they want to be. None of them are looking out for the American citizens. After all, would they give any of us billions of dollars in loans without knowing what we were going to do with the money? Think what they'd do if we borrowed money to buy a house and then spent the money on a posh vacation. We'd be in the federal pen is where we ordinary peons would be!!!
letter to Congress
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 13:59:37 -0800 (PST)
From: NT <nancyt1210@yahoo.com>
Subject: Open Letter to Congress from a Veteran and Military Dad
Stan Goff is Vietnam veteran and son served in Iraq. An Open
Letter to Congress from a Veteran and Military Dad On Power By STAN
GOFF, Dec. 2, 2005
(Disclaiming in advance for the rare exceptions in Congress)
If there is one thing we can always count on, it's politicians who
walk over human corpses to show fear only in the face of something as
formless and abstract as an opinion poll. Many of us in the veterans and
military families antiwar movement are well-versed on so-called
realism--and that deference we are supposed to exercise when we approach
elected officials, hat in hand, for a few crumbs of your attention and
support.
We understand power very well.
You are fighting each other for your careers, and you are retaining
your power over us through distance and guile, and trying to promote
that power by pretending you are hearing our concerns. But we have more
than concerns at stake here.
It is because we understand power that we haven't the slightest
intention of allowing ourselves to be used to promote your careers past the
2006 elections. If you fail to demand US withdrawal now, you are
supporting the war; and if you support the war, as far as we are concerned,
you can go straight to hell in 2006.
It is because we understand power that we are not going to forgive
and forget that when the war fever was up, fed by the lies of
Republicans, the war was facilitated by the eager xenophobic complicity of most
Democrats, and by the slavish obedience of the corporate press. Most of
you not only co-signed what you knew to be an illegal invasion--you have
continued to sign the checks to perpetuate the war.
You wanted to be lied to about the war, because the polls supported
the war, and you were sniffing the political air.
It is because we understand power that we know that most of you did
this out of craven opportunism and a concern for your political
ambitions--knowing full well that no one you loved was likely to be sent home
without a limb, without an eye, without a life.
It is because we understand power that we know how cynically cavalier
you are with the lives of others, and how narcissistically
self-promoting.
It is because we understand power that we understand why many of you
are backpedaling in your support for the war. You are maneuvering to be
critical of the war. You demand the administration provide an
effective exit strategy. And you haven't said a goddamned substantive
thing, as the cameras shutter away for you. And you want us to play
along--so you can beat Republicans without taking a single real position. You
don't want to stop this war. You want to win an election. By the time
you win that election, another thousand troops and another 20,000 Iraqis
could be dead. We do not calculate time the way you do.
It is because we understand power that we know most of you will stand
by while those of us with less privilege see our loved ones sent to
kill and die. The real corpses produced by the exercise of power are no
more to you than a political calculation.
We understand power, because we know what really stands behind it.
Power is embodied in the mounted cops you use to police our protests.
Power is expressed by the armed guards for your gated communities. Power
is the ability to kill and maim and get away with it, even if you dress
it up in $5,000 suits and trot it out on the talk-show circuit, on
C-Span, in your interviews with CNN.
Power is projected onto other peoples using your Cruise missiles and
A-10s and Bradley fighting vehicles and the people who join the
military. And the price of that power doesn't merely come from our pockets. We
probably wouldn't fight you about how you rob us for your pork barrel
defense contracts. The price that has us in motion right now--you really
must understand this, because it means we will never back off--is
exacted on the bodies of human beings.
The price is exacted with mortars, with IEDs, with high powered rifle
ammunition, with bombs, with the same A-10s and Bradleys; and it is
exacted on the bodies of our loved ones and the loved ones of the Iraqi
people.
That's why we are not going to grant you the power to manipulate us,
to contain us, to corral us, or to pimp our grief over this war and its
costs on behalf of your political careers or the needs of a political
party. That's why were are going to be rudely explicit when we say that
your bombast against the Bush administration--as if they did this
without your help--in calling for a more effective exit strategy and
demanding that people merely think about a plan for withdrawal from Iraq
that will take months or years this verbiage is meaningless and
manipulative. We will never stand for studying a withdrawal, for phasing a
withdrawal, for delaying a withdrawal, for setting conditions for a
withdrawal, or for partial withdrawal. Never.
Our demand from the beginning remains unchanged. It is for
withdrawal, and for immediate, unilateral, unconditional withdrawal; and if
political careers go up in smoke as a consequence, we do not give a good
goddamn. People are dying in Iraq as a direct result of this war every
single day. Go back to your fucking law offices and let our children live.
Gradual, phased, planned, strategized, conditioned, delayed, partial
withdrawals get implemented, if at all, while those military sedans
continue to roll up in front of people's houses to announce the extinction
of a human being to his or her family and while the bodies are dropped
into the fresh graves at the cemeteries of Iraq.
Gradual, phased, planned, strategized, conditioned, delayed, partial
withdrawals get implemented, if at all, while the poisons accumulate in
the soil and water and food of Iraq, and in the bodies of Iraqis and
occupation troops.
Gradual, phased, planned, strategized, conditioned, delayed, partial
withdrawals get implemented, if at all, while the hospitals fill up
with the lamed, maimed, blinded, and disfigured.
Gradual, phased, planned, strategized, conditioned, delayed, partial
withdrawals get implemented, if at all, while the grief and horror
associated with this criminal war become the daily emotional fare of more
and more people, occupation forces and Iraqis.
No member of Congress has the moral right to dither on the question
of his or her precious career while a single constituent is facing the
fear of that devastating knock on the door. We say the emperor has no
clothes; and we say we know you when you feign concern with your eye
fixed firmly on your ambition.
An exit is not a strategy. An exit is a command.
If the commander in chief won't give that command, then you in
Congress--if you want to salvage anything that looks vaguely like a
conscience or a soul--will refuse to grant this administration another penny to
continue this war. We are not hearing you when you tap dance about
political realism. The mounting mass of corpses, that you have walked
over every time you voted a cent to continue this war, is about as real as
it gets. Don't you dare ever lecture military families and veterans
about realism. And don't you doubt that we understand power.
You may think you can respond to your careerist concerns in the face
of reversing polls. You may think you can pretend to do something, that
you can bewilder us into accepting half a loaf better than none.
To the tiny handful of you in Congress who have said what we say,
Out Now!, we commend you and thank you for your principled voices.
To those of you who are openly supporting this criminal
administration, we'll see you in the street, and history will consign your names to
the chapters about imperial bullying, comb-over machismo, and cognitive
mediocrity.
To those of you who call for half measures, phases, and strategies,
you are directly in front of us now. You are standing directly in our
path, and we are not going to go around you.
We are not going to commend you on being better than the
reactionaries.
We are not going to thank you for our half a loaf.
We are not going to try and give you the political cover you need to
wiggle around those shifting opinion polls while you salvage your
careers.
We do not love you. We find your ambivalence contemptible.
We love the people who are facing the real consequences of this war
while you schmooze your way through the chicken-salad circuits of
imperial power, nattering on about realism and phases and strategies.
You will not divert our attention away from you. You will redirect
neither our anger nor our will away from you. It is you who are standing
directly in our way; and every time you try to dicker about people's
lives with us like we are in street market, every time you try to pimp
our outrage at this crime, as a mere concern that only you are entitled
to address with your careerist half-measures, we will call you to
account. We will embarrass you. We will shine a spotlight on your cowardice,
your opportunism, and your grotesque cynical hypocrisy.
November 2006 is not an election to us; it is a body count. If you
think you can take us for granted over an election, think again.
Get it right, because we have never wavered on our position. The mass
of American society is moving toward us, not you. They are listening
more and more to us, and less and less to you. We are about saving lives,
not saving face. So get it right, and get it right fast. We are looking
at your political house with an eye to pulling it down.
We understand power very well.
Stan Goff is the author of Hideous Dream: A Soldier's Memoir of the
US Invasion of Haiti (Soft Skull Press, 2000), Full Spectrum
Disorder (Soft Skull Press, 2003) and Sex & War which will be released
approximately December, 2005. He is retired from the United States Army. His
blog is at www.stangoff.com.
Goff can be reached at: sherrynstan@igc.org
Yep, the dems in congress won't do anything
until they have a dem as president. They know if they do something positive, such as helping us with our oil/energy problem, Bush will get the credit and they won't stand for that.
That is the facts people and it is so unbelievably ridiculous that these people who we vote in and pay 6-figure salaries to won't do their job. It's a huge joke and it scares the crap out of me.
Because he will likely have a majority in Congress....
and THAT is how you get things passed.
We have only had a dem congress for 18 months. nm
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You cant thank the democratic congress too.
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way to go democratic congress
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Bush does what he wants regardless of the Congress, BUT..
...this is the SECOND time he snookered Congress: First with his Chicken Little rush to hurry up and go to war with Iraq (which most of us were stupid enough to buy hook, line and sinker, myself included).
Now the economic "crisis" that required us to hurry up and give more money to reward the Wall Street crooks who have already stolen from us WITH THE EXPRESS CONDITION that there be no oversight, that we simply hand the money over to former Wall Street guru Paulson (wink wink) and let him and Bush figure out (wink wink) with no questions asked regarding the identity of the recipients. (Apparently, they are changing the rules as they go along, as we saw today regarding where the money is going.)
If you REALLY want to get your blood boiling, read the following two articles. Seems everyone who is a decision-maker in the administration regarding this whole fiasco is a former employee of one of the failed companies.
Bush has always held America and Americans in contempt. I now hold Congress in contempt and place the blame squarely on them for being stupid enough to believe Bush again.
Fed loans to AIG make Paulson's previous employer rich
http://www.business-standard.com/india/storypage.php?autono=335924
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And just last week, the Federal Reserve hired a BEAR STEARNS reject.
Federal Reserve Hires Bear Stearns Fox to Fix the Hen House
November 6, 2008 | From theTrumpet.com Another sign the economic system cannot be fixed.
http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=5646.3994.0.0
Congress should tell him to sell the jet!
sale of the jet would provide about 15% of the bailout money they are asking for. okay, not sure of that percentage as my math skills are sorely lacking but either way common sense is most definitely lacking.
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