You would be surprised how much of what you have said I agree with.
Posted By: Lila on 2006-05-13
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Not surprised at all. Scary, but not surprised.
God help us all get through the next three years.
I'm surprised that you're surprised.
You really thought voting for the O was going to produce a miracle, that things were going to be different? Better, maybe? Wow.
Not surprised at all by the violence. Only surprised
People are p****d, especially the middle class. They can't bend much further without snapping. My prediction is that if the US gov'mt. keeps letting all the bank and stockmarket criminals off with just a slap on the wrist, eventually the public is going to take matters into its own hands. If I were that guy who bilked people out of millions in that Ponzi scheme, I'd be very, very afraid. He should be in jail if for no other reason than his own protection. I'm willing to bet that in the coming year or two, all sorts of s**t is going to start hitting the proverbial fan.
Yes, I just bet you are surprised. nm
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Thank you! I'm not a bit surprised
unfortunately. 
Why am I not surprised?
Is anyone really surprised
by the ***leak*** of the NIE document. I remember Bob Graham, senator from my state, Florida, standing on the floor of congress and predicting this almost verbatim. Many of us agreed with him. Many who did not have changed their minds over the years. I don't find any of this **breaking news.**
Now, why am I not surprised?
But as a self-professed "Bush fan", I would expect nothing less.
Are you surprised? sm
Just more of O's "transparent" tactics. When the questions get tough, he hides behind his standard "I had no idea that was going on" statement.
I was always taught and have always believed that you are known by the company you keep. All of his associates, past and present, have been crooks, liars, bomb builders and just basic scum bags.
I would be surprised if it did.
At this point, the House Repubs need to propose a new bill, since the old one was too unpopular for even the Dems to sell to their constituency.
But the Dems have to save face by not letting the Repubs get credit for putting together a more favorable bill.
I suspect in the end it will be a bill quite similar to the one already voted down, with a few more consessions in the taxpayers' favor.
Of course, both sides will take credit.
Both sides will blame the other for the crisis in the first place.
And both will be corret.
Why am I not surprised
www.BlackBoxVoting.org
Also, watch the DVD "Uncounted" -- a real eye-opener.
The link below is to one of the Blackboxvoting forums
Ha ha! Why am I not surprised?!
If nothing else, this election campaign sure has been ENTERTAINING!
I'm not surprised
to hear you bring God into it. You're who Julian Jaynes was talking about when he talked about the unevolved faction of humanity, the ones who have to have literal interpretations of the Bible because they have an under-developed consciousness and have to recreate the "voice of the chief."
If Jesus knew about the offensive slime you spew, he would never stop puking.
And by the way, Obama has said a number of times that he will stop giving tax breaks to companies that offshore.
I, for one, am not surprised by this...sm
I always thought that Obama was a socialist, about two steps from being a marxist, on his way to being a communist.
If true, this goes to show exactly who and what Obama is about.
Chilling, indeed. No wonder I can't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. Whenever he's questioned on certain issues, he's too busy trying to sound like not what he is, but still fails miserably.
He sounds like someone hiding something, and it's not pretty.
I'm not surprised
you envision and embrace the negative extreme of everything, given the whole fire & brimstone thing. Good grief. It must be miserable being locked inside that kind of paranoia. You have my sympathy.
I would be surprised
if you had not heard at least a few names on this list, which is, by no means, exhaustive.
Many of the most famous serial killers (e.g., Jeffrey Dahmer, Andrew Cunanan, John Wayne Gacy, Henry Lee Lucas, Ottis Toole, etc.) were homosexuals, but they became widely known due to the nature of their crimes or the identities of their victims, not because they in any way represent serial killers generally.
To name a few:
Gay/Homosexual Serial Killers
Name # of People
Killed Year Killer's Home Location of Murders Notes Birth death
Jeffrey Dahmer 17 1978, 1988-91 Milwaukee Milwaukee and Chicago homosexual cannibal. He was killed by another inmate while in prison. 21 May 1960 28 November 1994
Andrew Cunanan 5 1997 San Diego, Calif. Minnesota; Chicago, IL; South Beach, FL killed fashion designer Gianni Versace 31 August 1969 23 July 1997
Gilles DE Rais 300+ 1430s France France associate of Joan of Arc
Luis Alfredo Garavito 140+ Colombia Colombia Gay serial killer who murdered over 140 boys in Columbia. 25 January 1957
Randy Steven Kraft 65 (est.) 1971 to 1983 Oregon, Michigan, etc. "Score Card Killer"
Michael Swango 35 - 60 1983-97 Ohio, Illinois, New York, South Dakota, Virginia "Doctor of Death" -- killed hospital patients
Andrei Chikatilo 52 until 1992 Russia Russia
Fritz Haarmann 40 (est.) until 1924 Germany Germany "Butcher Of Hanover"
John Wayne Gacy 33 until 1978 Chicago Chicago bisexual; 27 of his victims (young boys he seduced) were found buried in crawlspace under his house. Executed in Joliet, IL. 17 March 1942 10 May 1994
Patrick Wayne Kearney 28+ 1968 to 1977 Redondo Beach, Calif. gay cruising areas of Hollywood
David D. Hill 28? 1968 to 1977 Redondo Beach, Calif. Hollywood Patrick Kearney's lover; confessed to being co-killer with Kearney, but police weren't sure about the extent of his involvement
Hans Grans 27+ until 1924 Germany Germany accommplice and love of Haarmann, the "Butcher Of Hanover"
Wayne Williams 27 1979-81 Atlanta Atlanta Gay serial killer who preyed mostly on young black male hustlers. 27 May 1958
Dean Corll 27 1960s to 1973 Ft. Wayne, Indiana; later Houston, TX Houston, Texas
Elmer Wayne Henley 27 1960s to 1973 Ft. Wayne, Indiana; later Houston, TX Houston, Texas Bisexual. Victims were young boys who he kidnapped and tortured. 9 May 1956
David Owen Brooks 27 1960s to 1973 Ft. Wayne, Indiana; later Houston, TX Houston, Texas
Donald Harvey 25 - 40 (est.) 1970-71 London, Kentucky Kentucky
Juan Corona 25 1971 From Mexico; moved to Yuba City, CA in 1950s Yuba City, Calif. Born in Mexico. All of his victims were men that he first raped, and then killed with a machete over the span of six weeks. Presently resides in Corcoran State Prison. Juan Corona's brother is Natividad, the gay, owner of the Guadalajara cafe in Marysville, CA. 1934
Adolfo de Jesus Constanzo 21 (est.) until 1989 Matamoros, Mexico Matamoros, Mexico "Matamoros Cult Killer"
Larry Eyler 19 1980s Chicago Illinois and Indiana
Huang Yong 17+ 2001-2003 Henan Province, China Henan Province, China Gay. Executed. Murdered boys that he flirted with and picked up at internet cafes. Saved their belts as souvenirs. His 18th victim escaped, leading to his arrest. 1974 26 December 2003
Dennis Nilsen 16 1978-83 U.K. U.K.
Marcelo Costa de Andrade 14 until 1991 Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
William Bonin 12+ 1979-80 Orange County, Calif. Orange County, Calif.
Henry Lee Lucas 12+ 1970s and 80s Most in Texas, Southeastern U.S. 23 August 1936 12 March 2001
Ottis Toole 12+ 1970s and 80s West Coast, Florida, etc. accomplice of Henry Lee Lucas
Vaughn Greenwood 11+ 1974-75 Los Angeles Los Angeles
Richard Speck 8+ 1966 Chicago Chicago married, bisexual
Cayetano Hernandez 8 1963 Yerba Buena, Mexico Mexico
Eleazor Solis 8 1963 Monterey, Mexico Mexico
David Bullock 6+ 1981-82 New York City New York
Vernon Butts 6+ 1979-80 Calif. Orange County, Calif. accomplice of William Bonin
Paul Bateson 6 ? (est.) 1977-78 New York City New York City
Marc Dutroux 6 1995-1996 Belgium Belgium Bisexual. He is unusual among gay serial killers, in that his victims were all girls, who he kidnapped and tortured before killing. One of most notorious serial killers in Belgium's history. 6 November 1956
Michael Terry 6 1980-86 Atlanta Georgia, Ohio, South Carolina
Orville Lynn Majors 6 Indiana Vermillion County Hospital, Indiana
Charles Cohen 5+ Delaware Delaware, San Francisco, New York, Miami, and New Orleans
Arthur Gary Bishop 5 1984 Utah Utah Utah serial killer of young boys. Years before his murder spree, in 1978, he had been excommunicated from the LDS Church. Bishop was an active homosexual and was no longer a member of the LDS Church when he became a serial killer. Executed in Utah State Prison. He said of his crimes, "With great sadness and remorse, I realize that I allowed myself to be misled by Satan. Pornography was not the only negative influence in my life, but its effect on me was devastating. I am a homosexual pedophile convicted of murder, and pornography was a determining factor in my downfall." 1951 10 June 1988
Michael Lupo 4+ 1986 from Italy London
Peter Moore 4 1995 north Wales north Wales
Westley Allan Dodd 3+ Washingon Washington, Oregon
David P. Brown
(a.k.a. Nathaniel Bar-Jonah) 3+ 2000 Massachusetts Montana David Paul Brown. Victims were all young boys. 15 February 1957
Charles Manson 3+ 1968-72 Los Angeles Los Angeles Bisexual. One of nation's most famous serial killers. Murdered actress Sharon Tate, the wife of film director Roman Polanski. Deeply interested in the occult. 12 November 1934
David Edward Maust 5+ 1981; 2003 Germany; Galveston, TX (1981); Hammond, IL (2003) Gay. Killed teenage boys, usually by stabbing 5 April 1954
Bruce Davis 2+ 1968-72 Los Angeles Los Angeles Charles Manson accomplice
Erik Menendez 2 20 August 1989 Beverly Hills, CA Beverly Hills, CA with his straight brother Lyle, Erik killed his parents (Jose Menendez and Kitty Menendez). Their trial was a major national news story. 27 November 1971
Although homosexual murderers of single victims are too numerous to list here, a number of particularly famous ones include: Nathan Leopold and Richard Loeb (the wealthy and academically bright gay Chicago couple who murdered a boy in 1924 just for fun; their story became one of the nation's most famous murder cases, and was the basis for many movies, including Hitchcock's film "Rope"); Armin Meiwes (the sexually deviant German cannibal known as "Der Metzgermeister" - The Master Butcher, who met a victim over the Internet who he ate and killed); John E. du Pont (the gay member of the wealthy du Pont famil who shot Olympic wrestler David Schultz to death); Gary Hirte (Waupaca, WI high school senior who admitted to killing 37-year-old substitute teacher Glenn Kopitske); Karla Homolka (Canadian lesbian who murdered her own sister). Other notable gay violent criminals include Kenneth Parnell (paid $500 to "purchase" a young black boy named Steven Stayner, who he then raped and kidnapped); John Wojtowicz (whose bank robbery inspired the movie Dog Day Afternoon).
Serial Killers who were Lesbians
Name # of People
Killed Year Killer's Home Location of Murders Notes
Magdalena Solis 8 1963 Monterey, Mexico Mexico
Aileen Wuornos 7+ 1989-90 south of Daytona, Florida Florida killed male "johns"
Tyria Moore 7+ 1989-90 south of Daytona, Florida Florida killed male "johns"
Catherine Wood 6 Grand Rapids, MI Grand Rapids, MI nurse who killed patients
Gwen Graham 6 Grand Rapids, MI Grand Rapids, MI nurse who killed patients
Why am I not surprised...(sm)
The pub way of thinking on this is to go ahead and let those workers lose their jobs, then save the auto industry, and then they can hire back those workers or others without any job security, benefits, etc...
Under republican rule, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer (and that obviously hasn't worked out so well). So, who on this board is getting richer, and if you are getting poorer, can you really afford (financially) to be republican?
Why am I not surprised...(sm)
The pub way of thinking on this is to go ahead and let those workers lose their jobs, then save the auto industry, and then they can hire back those workers or others without any job security, benefits, etc...
Under republican rule, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer (and that obviously hasn't worked out so well). So, who on this board is getting richer, and if you are getting poorer, can you really afford (financially) to be republican?
Yes, it surprised me.
Normally, equality (except for Fox) and sense in her posts.
Can't say I'm surprised........... sm
but I do find it a little ridiculous that they would come down on a Bible study group and not the men's Monday night footbal groups or poker night groups or Cub Scout meetings, etc. This is but one more sad example of how our rights are being stripped away little by little. And before anyone says that Christians should meet in churches only, I would ask what will you do when your rights as a citizen are infringed upon?
Why surprised that he owns a gun? sm
For a long time, the deep south was largely Democrat and everyone there owns a gun. Al Gore hunts. So does John Kerry.
I should not be surprised by your response. sm
But I have to admit it sickens me more than a little. People like Ward Chamberlain, who has not been found to be a plagiarist, a liar (he is NOT Native American) and he made up his service record, among other things, don't deserve to be defended. Unless you are a socialist and have no problem with liars and thieves. I guess that says it all.
Surprised, but not disappointed
I was a little surprised with the outcome, especially Edward's finish, not at all what I expected. I would be happy with an Obama or a Clinton nomination.
I haven't paid much attention to the republican candidates, yet, but as things progress, you can bet I'll be watching.
Thank you kindly. I was surprised...
by last nght's media coverage of this same debate, particularly with regard to Whoopi and company on The View. Even the most adept of media hate-mongers were relatively civil and talk show guests seemed to be exhibiting an unusual degree of sensitivity.
Whoopi's statement about how the blacks have "taken the word back" from those who would use it to inflict pain was in line with what I was trying to convey. However, equally as impressive was the response by Elisabeth Hasselbeck, a young woman born the same year as my own son (1977), in the post civil rights generation who never really experienced the struggles I described in the previous post.
She was obviously genuinely confused and in real pain as she contributed to the conversation. I find myself haunted by her question regarding "how do we explain this controversy" to our children?" As a soon-to-be senior, I have trouble putting myself in the position of having learned about the civil rights movements from some civics or history text book.
On the one hand, I find myself believing that it is very important to pass this awareness down through the generations that follow us. But when I see that kind of pain in a young woman who is obviously trying her best to understand these issues, I have to wonder if there will come a day when we should try to leave it all behind us and lay it to rest.
I am inclined to believe that for as long as this job remains unfinished (the elimination of discrimination and sustained equality for all Americans in all spheres), it is important that we do not forget, but I am biased because those were MY "good ole days". Some Boomers still take a great deal of pride in having been a part of such vital social change as was accomplished during the 60s and 70s, while others among us seem to have forgotten where they came from, having sold out principles for profits.
In any case, I would be interested in any feedback in this regard, especially from those who learned about my hey days in a history lesson.
surprised to see Mc admit
that the US tortured prisoners. He said we won't ever torture prisoners AGAIN. He stood around and allowed that to happen -- he the man who wants all to remember his pow experience?
I am surprised! You went to Church?....
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I admit I am surprised at your age.
I think the majority of the older people realize what is coming. "Conspiracy" isn't exactly such a bad word for it.
I'm really surprised in Ohio...
I figured Brown would vote yes, but am surprised Voinovich voted no - he's very much a RINO. I guess he figures he's got nothing to lose now that he's decided not to run for reelection.
Not surprised! How depressing
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What surprised me about the backing was
it was on a very, very conservative talk radio, same station that sean Hannity, Neal Bortz on- in fact it was during the Neal Bortz show that this was heard. I was surprised to hear it, much less there so when you say where I supposedly heard it, you are way, way off. As far as the tea party, I had not watched the channels you mentioned in some time. I watch local from Atlanta and none of those channels played it up, neither Fox or the others. That day on all local channels in Atlanta only about 5 minute coverage then. I flipped that day between the others, CNN, MSMBC, Fox and the like and Fox was the only 1 to have it anything on.
Some of them were surprised, but still agreed and
one even thought he was intelligent...all except that one woman who choked.
I think you would be very surprised at how the troops see you, Lilly.
I am surprised they showed the signs sm
They actually showed them several times. A lot of people agree with that particular message. I don't agree totally with it, but do find many aspects of the official story suspicious and some of it downright stupid. Usually when there is one lie, there are others so the families request for a new investigation is valid.
The song was a little corny, but like the message. They are definitely right about the manure. I heard a lot of conservatives were there.
I think those who know "me" will be surprised by my message below.
To me the most important thing is to find out the truth. For most who know my name “me”, you probably think I’m liberal because I’ve been defending Barack. But I’m not liberal. I used to be conservative. Voted for Bush both times, but after the mess he put the country in and the harm he has done to the country I am now that middle level (conservative on some issues, liberal on others).
When I first heard about JM’s pick I thought “truly no, he can’t be serious”. For whatever reasons I thought before, my viewpoints have changed because I’ve read a lot of different articles written by conservatives and liberals.
While I believe John McCain is out for John McCain and his rich friends and big government, and while I believe Obama is for the people and wants to give us hope for a better future (still trying to figure out how he will pay for everything). I do believe that Sarah Palin is probably equal to Barack when it comes to inspiring people to have hope for our future, and she has proven it as governor of Alaska.
Why do I believe this…because she is not tied into the DC. I also read that she was not McCain’s choice. He was getting ready to choose Lieberman, when he received the call “telling” him he would be picking Sarah Palin. That tells me the most important thing I needed to know…that McCain is not calling the shots here and making the decisions. I truly do not trust his judgment on most of the issues he has voted for, and things he is saying, and for me it’s very important to know that someone over him is running the show and telling him what he will be doing. I cannot trust him to make important decisions.
While I do think Barack is a good candidate. I believe he is a sincere person. I like the work he’s done to help people in the community. He’s served his time in the senate and has voted right on most of the issues. He’s an excellent speaker and his speeches are moving and inspiring, but I just like Sarah Palin better. I’m reading about her record as governor. I’m not going to go into it (too lengthy), but if you look in Wikipedia you can read about her. Her work as chairperson of Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission is worth reading. She is pro-environment and has a strong understanding of Energy & Environment. But there is more about her history that I’m liking the more I read.
Another article I read stated (I’ll try to keep this short only with the highlights).
Sarah Palin is a legend in fighting corporate and government corruption. This lady will not back down for special interests. She even battled and won against Big Oil trying to come in and carve up Alaska. She has served on the school board, as a mayor, and now as Governor of the single largest, most energy rich state of the union.
She is NOT a DC insider as are McCain, Obama and Biden. This lady does not like government corruption, will not tolerate it, and is one tough cookie.
She is a devoted environmentalist and conservationist...and a pragmatist to the core. It will not take her long to figure out how corrupt DC is and take aim at many of the snakes there.
Palin is also from a modest background...great credentials in these 'blue blood' times of graft and gangsterism. Her father was a school teacher and her mother the secretary at that school. She is not part of the elitist clique and cabal of DC and has already proven her courage in standing up to them.
She is an avid hunter, loves fishing, and is a no-nonsense adult. I guarantee that Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are changing diapers frequently right now because the Vice President of the United States is also the President of the U.S. Senate. Sarah Palin will put up with Zero DC Bullsh!t from the House and Senate.
In announcing her, McCain even humbled himself and said in a self-effacing way that Sarah Palin is exactly the type of leadership needed in DC right now to fix what is wrong in America. McCain was very clear that DC is corrupt, she is not.
Sarah Palin just changed the entire political landscape not only of the Presidential campaign but of the general state of America. Assuming voters look past McNutter and embrace Palin with their votes - and make no mistake, she would be THE final reason McKook would win - America may actually find itself on the doorstep of REAL 'change' and hope...for the first time in many decades. If elected, McCain - the man who called for the bombing of Iran and 颼 years of war' may find the American public empowering Palin to the extent he will go more placidly into his twilight than had he done with either Zionist Cantor or Liebermann biting at his @ss.
The entire Iraq and Afghanistan lunacy is going to have to stop. Meanwhile, the real business of America will be settled over on Capitol Hill and having Sarah Palin there could, finally, start the process of turning the US around.
New game now, and what Sarah Palin represents is the best choice America has to get headed back in the right direction.
The new McCain-Palin motto was rolled out today 'Country First.' Works for me.
And, lest we forget, we may end up being one heartbeat away from our first woman President...a woman who will command the true respect of the American people...and the world. A kind of respect Mrs. Clinton could only dream about.
This is my note (not in the article) – Do I think McCain would be a good president – NO! Absolutely not! But do I think Palin would be a good president. In a heart beat! Therefore my vote is going for Palin (JM just happens to be on the ticket with her).
Menso here too. I am surprised that you cannont see
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crooks and liars.com... why am I not surprised....sm
Speaking of crooks and liars, where are Bill and Hillary Clinton's??????
I guess we shouldn't be surprised
I did think ABC would be (at least on the surface) neutral. God forbid they should portray the woman honestly.
The Republicans should have cried foul, but the Dems would just have turned that into sour grapes.
You'll be surprised how easy it is
I cooked a Crown Roast of Pork in the D.O. once. A pineapple upside down cake is a very easy dessert to start with. I won 1st place with it the first time I entered a contest. I also make a killer Pecan Cobbler. Just got it perfected for the D.O. and will cook it in the next contest we enter. It's easy too. I made one for the bean supper fund raiser last Saturday just to see what people would think about it and based on the way people came back for seconds I'd say I've got a possible winner. With the holidays coming up if you would like the recipe...well, I love to share my recipes.
I was a little surprised at the "snotsdale" remark
since I live in Arizona. I don't live in Scottsdale but have been there. Nice town with nice residents. Great shopping and restaurants too.
Baloney. But, not surprised... hope you like
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I was a bit surprised to hear her admit
abstinence probably isn't realistic, but yeah, good for her. Are you thinking her choice to have the baby wasn't entirely her own? I bet she can stand up for herself when she needs to!
I am not surprised that you missed my point.
If they have done this with other presidents, fine. If Obama is the first, it just goes to show the love affair the media, including CNN, has with Obama and the bias they report in his favor. That was my point and I was trying to be nice in inquiring about whether or not they had done this type of thing with previous presidents, but since you have jumped on me for my post....I'm not going to be nice any more. I'm tired of the love affair with Obama and the free passes he gets for everything including the obvious and blantant lies that he tells. Makes me sick.
The reason people are scrutinizing everything Obama does is because our country is in deep deep doo doo.....if you haven't noticed......and yes this started before Obama's administration but now that he is the big cheese on campus.....it is his time to be observed and if I don't feel that what he is doing is best for our economy and our country, I have a right to say something and express my concerns. I'm not unpatriotic for disagreeing with him. I'm not racist for disagreeing with him. I'm not republican for disagreeing with him.
Barack Obama is just a man. He isn't the Messiah like the left try to make him out to be and he isn't the anti-christ like some on the right try to portray him as.....but he is our president and I have a right to voice my opinion on whether or not I think he is doing a good job and quite frankly......I'm not very impressed with him yet.
As for CNN celebrating Obama's 100 days as president....I'm sure they will make him once again look like he does no wrong and he is to be worshiped. Therefore, I will not be watching it. I had enough of the sickening adoration of him during the inaguration. I am proud that our country has looked past the prejudice of skin to elect the first African American president, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be criticized and questioned just like every other president that has ever been in office. This is our country and we have a right to question what he does if we disagree with him. I don't have a problem with an African American as president.....I just don't think Barack Obama was the right guy for the job.
And quite honestly....I'd be just as disgusted by this if this was the first 100 days of Hillary's presidency because there are a lot of things I don't agree with her on either. So spare me!
Yes, arrogant.. distasteful, yet I am not surprised
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I'm sad but not surprised. Bill was vetoed by Bush.
The president used the 4th veto of his presidency to veto the Children's Health Insurance Plan expansion. I do find it incredibly sad that we can spend 333 million dollars per day on the war in Iraq, but we can't spend 19 million on children's health care. We also spend insane amounts of money on numerous other programs that I consider waaaaay less important than affordable healthcare.
I knew I shouldn't get my hopes up since the President had promised to veto the bill, but I did and now I just feel like crying. I'm devastated and feel like the "bad guys" are winning and the good people and children are losing. What happened to caring about your neighbor? The world is an incredibly depressing place, and I already know that, but I think we have an obligation to make life as good as possible for the kids here. They don't choose what income level their parents are, but sadly whether or not they afford the best healtcare depends on it.
I can't wait until January of 2009. Maybe then my country will stop looking so much like a dictatorship and a little more like a democracy. I'm sick of one little guy with a big case of little-man's syndrome holding all the power and abusing it to a disgusting, appalling degree. When you conservatives come on here to defend your precious President Bush, it will not affect me in the slightest. I will only feel bad that you have been brainwashed by such a complete jerk and waste of oxygen.
I'm surprised more of the right-wing MT's haven't brought
all of us, and our careers. (HAVING a career, vs having that career 100% offshored). This is one of the major issues my vote is hinging on this year, because unless we have SOME hope of companies not being given free rein, and in fact INCENTIVES for doing what they're doing, before long MT in America will DRY UP, because none of us will be able to afford any longer to work for what they pay, simply because they can get away with it.
Having a candidate in office who is for reining in this offshoring incentive may not solve the problem, and in fact nothing at all might happen. But if the winning candidate is FOR taxing heavily the MTSOs and other companies whose greed has ruined a good, respectable profession in America, then at least I can get up in the morning the day after the election with some shred of HOPE. If a pro-big-company profits, pro-offshoring candidate wins, there may be no other choice for many of us than to leave the U.S. in search of work.
Let's exhibit a bit of humanity instead. Not surprised you'd side with
Brad Blakeman...thumbs down to his take on GOP family values. To equate NM and Saks spending sprees on the RNC dime that fly in the face of their own campaign message to Obama having the audacity to go see his dying grandmother speaks for itself and deserves no further comment.
RE: Let's exhibit a bit of humanity instead. Not surprised you'd side with
I will reiterate since so many think Obama has great family values...
You think a man who has no problem with a baby left to die an agonizing death after a botched abortion has values of any kind?
Left to die in a bucket? Maybe you need to ask yourself what his true family values really are.
And I am likewise not surprised you are voting for Obama. (nm)
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I was also pleasantly surprised at the nice clothing, like SPalin! nm
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I am not surprised. Obama represents the rude left
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I agree, that goes for both sides. I don't agree with those starting trouble over...sm
on your board either, but then some of you come and take it out on the people who only post here and we have nothing to do with the fights over there.
I enjoy communicating with liberals and occasionally do learn something from conservative posters, so I refuse to let the driveby, no moniker, one-sided finger pointers, self-indulging posters drive me off.
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