You should have stopped at *I blame.* sm
Posted By: sm on 2005-09-01
In Reply to: dont preach - gt
Figures that someone giving a pep talk would turn you off. Might take the edge off that HATRED and RAGE. You are beginning to look more and more like the crowds who are looting, raping and shooting, out of control, full of a sense of entitlement and more than a little full of hysterical rage.
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Don't blame Obama for the coins...blame the Franklin Mint!
The Franklin Mint has an entire series of presidential coins that are tacky and cheap looking just like everything else they manufacture.
Let's blame Clinton...Let's blame Obama.
The FACT is that Bush BECAME prez on 01/20/01. He was told by Clinton to beware!! It was Bush's duty to know, to care what was going on.... the FACT is he didn't give a rat's patooty!!! FACT is he was on vacation most of his first 7 months in office. The FACT is he stared into space for 7 minutes after being told America was under attack while kindergarteners were reading "MY PET GOAT." I am so sick of the LIES you people want to ram down my throat. And when Obama takes office, God-willing, I am positive he will be under a microscope like NO president has ever been as there is a different standard set for him and never has a president-elect undergone so much criticisizm BEFORE taking office.
You know....if we actually stopped
and looked at all the money these politicians spend on travel and other expenses that we the taxpayers pay for......we would want to beat them all with a baseball bat. Then you have people like Gore talking about global warming and then jumping on his personal jet and flying away.... LOL! So for them to go after Palin like that is just ridiculous. At least she is giving the clothes the RNC bought to charity when she is done. Not like Palin is a millionaire like McCain, Obamarama, and sticks foot in mouth often Biden. As for her family flying on taxpayers expense....they fly commercial airlines and not by personal jet. Remember....she is the one that sold the personal jet Alaska had for the previous governor because it was wasteful.
I'm so tired of people ragging on Palin on the time. There are many flaws that the other candidates have as well. Rag on them for a while. If you are going to tear the candidates apart....at least tear them all apart and not just one.
You should have stopped with your
of you post is pure incomprehensible babble. Just accept the facts.
That has never stopped anyone here from
They keep whining about the same old s**t over and over. Even when a subject is talked out ad infinitum...
It's too bad you stopped reading...sm
Sam brings up valid, positive points, and those on the left turn her off, rather than listen to the truth, because it comes from her.
She isn't bitter at all. It always sounds like the left is, when dealing with her, rather than listen to the truth, even when you expounded so much on the facts. If the facts bear up the right, they must not be facts, are therefore ignored.
McCain DID do something...he stopped...
politicking and went back to Washington to do the job the American taxpayers are paying him for, as a sitting senator (both he and Obama are still sitting senators). I would think Obama would want to know FIRST HAND what is going on and not get his info from pings on his blackberry. I would think he would want to be in the thick of this, considering the economy is on the brink of failure. A debate can wait a few days. Can the economy? This whole thing seems pretty silly to me. It looks to me like McCain his his priorities in order.
Of course and isn't it about time it stopped? n/m
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WC stopped when she was pregnant -
at least that is what I remembered hearing on TV.
You should have stopped at Not Tolerant. Period.
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If you had stopped at stating it was from Newsmax...
and not followed that with conservative propaganda in the body of your post...obviously said in an effort to discredit whatever was in the article. I can read between the lines, as can other posters, right and left, I feel sure.
Stopped believing in the boogey man when I was 5.
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I thank God Bush stopped having war on US soil after 911! nm
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Definately time it stopped
Unfortunately, no matter who wins, it's not going to any time soon. Obama would tax those companies to death, so they would move out of the country anyway, while McCain would help them pack. "God have mercy is correct," 'cause we're screwed either way.
And what credible plots were stopped by
Please give one plausible, legitimate terrorist plot targeting our nation that was stopped by his policies.
Maybe if you stopped yawning, you could actually learn
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You misunderstand. I don't want this thing to be stopped.
Once this train gets going, it won't be stopped where the loony liberals imagine it will stop. It will go all the way to the end of the line, and that is a prospect that positively fills me with joy because it will take a lot of slimeball Democrats like Obama, Pelosi, Reid and others down with it. You know - the co-conspirators and the liars.
You're the ones who had better act fast. Last time I heard, you guys had an awful lot of criminals to go after. We'll start with Feinstein and her most recent financial corruption and work our way back.
Bring it on, and let's really clean house!
You remind me why I stopped voting democrat....(nm)
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maybe they just stopped writing that calendar at that point
because it seemed like a good place to stop. I mean, they had to stop at some point, right?
even brittany stopped giving interviews
She is under no obligation to stay in the spotlight and should decline all further interviews. seriously.
Unfortunately, many politicians stopped caring a looong
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good point.....this one bans if you don't agree with them....or maybe this has stopped since the
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We stopped reading your posts a long time ago!
McCain just stopped talking to reporters when he got the nomination
But in the middle of the summer, the McCain campaign took a series of steps that appeared on their face to be at odds with the candidate’s gold-plated brand. In the interest of greater message discipline, his advisers eliminated his running back-of-the-bus (or front-of-the-plane) bullshit sessions with reporters. And they turned sharply negative in their approach to Obama, hammering him with a series of ads—seen by some as trivial and trivializing, by others as racially coded, and eventually by most as unexpectedly effective—focused on his status as a celebrity unqualified to be commander-in-chief.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=109x34923
Who honestly cares, as long as the terrorist threat was stopped. sm
Until all of you stop your Bush rabid hatred, the terrorist threat is not only lost on you, you look for something more sinister and it all has to point to Bush. This is really disturbing.
blame
September 1, 2005
Conservatives Helped This Happen
by Dan Pashman, Senior Producer, Morning Sedition
As terrible as it is, this attack could be miniscule if, in fact, God
continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to
give us probably what we deserve. The ACLU's got to take a lot of the
blame for this…The abortionists have got to bear some of the burden for
this because God will not be mocked…I really believe that the pagans,
and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the
lesbians…all of them who have tried to secularize America, I point the
finger in their face and say, 'you helped this happen.'
- Rev. Jerry Falwell, September 13, 2001
Who can forget Jerry Falwell's infamous post-9/11 indictment of
America? 'You helped this happen,' Falwell said to the majority of
Americans, who disagree with him on a majority of issues.
Now, a conservative group called Columbia Christians for Life has
proclaimed that Hurricane Katrina was another one of God's punishments,
citing as evidence the supposed resemblance between the hurricane's
image on a weather map, and a fetus.
Trying to refute such claims from these zealots is truly an exercise in
futility. But searching for explanations after a disaster of Katrina's
magnitude is not. And if you do in fact search for those explanations,
you'll reach an unavoidable conclusion:
Hurricane Katrina may have been an act of God. But the level of death
and destruction it caused was not. That was an act of conservatism.
It is conservative policies that made this natural disaster unnaturally
catastrophic. I say to conservatives, you have blood on your hands
today. I point the finger in your face and say, You helped this
happen.
Conservative policies have led to an increase in poverty across the
nation, especially in New Orleans, one of the poorest major cities in
America. About 150,000 people in New Orleans lived below the poverty
line before Katrina, 100,000 of them in abject poverty, making less
than $8,000 a year. Their poverty left them with nowhere to go, and no
means of escape, as the hurricane bore down on their homes.
Conservative policies have led to more global warming, which scientists
agree has already begun producing more intense hurricanes and storms.
Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour, a former Republican Party Chairman
and longtime GOP operative, has seen his own state ravaged by Katrina.
But he was vital in helping to convince the Bush administration to
squash the Kyoto Protocol on climate change, and pushed Bush to go
back on his campaign promise to regulate carbon dioxide. Governor
Barbour would dare express grief over the deaths that he himself
enabled.
Conservative policies have led to a war in Iraq based on lies, and tax
cuts for the rich, both of which, we know for a fact, took money
directly away from vital hurricane preparedness work in New Orleans.
On nine occasions in 2004 and 2005, The New Orleans Times-Picayune
specifically cited the cost of the Iraq War as a reason for the
shortfall in hurricane- and flood-control funds. The levees that gave
way under Katrina's pressure were supposed to be upgraded with money
that ended up in Halliburton’s coffers.
Conservative policies have also led to the National Guard's misuse and
abuse, leaving the Gulf Coast without the personnel and equipment
vital to a recovery effort of this magnitude. More people will die on
the Gulf Coast as they await their would-be saviors, who are in Iraq,
victims themselves of conservative policies.
There can be no doubt that while Hurricane Katrina was not preventable,
much of the death and destruction left in its wake was. I say to
conservatives, you have blood on your hands today. I point the finger
in your face and say, You helped this happen.
Blame must go somewhere.
So you put it solely on the poor themselves? More people in this country are slipping into poverty every day - whole families of them, fathers included. That was a good thoughtful post and I thank you for writing it but hope you will take a moment to consider another side.
While throwing money at a problem is not guaranteed to fix it, one thing is for sure - throwing billions to the already obscenely rich is sure as heck not going to fix the root cause of any social disorder.
If we want to really get to the root cause of poverty in our society (which I agree is a good idea) we must not exclude the role that capitalism itself plays in not only producing a permanently disadvantaged underclass, but also in keeping it that way. A fair and impartial look at our laws and operating procedures is enough to convince anyone that things are just the way the movers and shakers want them to be. And, you are correct that only the very most motivated and exceptionally gifted will make it out of the morass. That's also the way it's supposed to be, father or no father. Social Darwinism - the cream rises.
Trouble is, we can't all be the cream. It's unreasonable to expect that of everyone. But this is the society that free market capitalism builds. It's going to get worse, too. The next step is a bonding of purpose between the corporate oligarchy and the government itself, and the next step after that is a military police state run by those who consider themselves the cream - in other words, just another banana republic, the very antithesis of what America should be.
Now I don't know about you but I don't think this is the direction America should take and I don't think for a minute it's the result of poor kids having no fathers. That may leave them more vulnerable and more easily manipulated, but it's hardly on their backs. Everyone who's not the cream is victimized in the kind of society that values money and power above everything else.
Right now there are billions upon billions of dollars being handed over not to the poor but to that handful of defense corporations powerful enough to rub elbows with Bush and his cronies. That is where America's money is going and that's where it's going to continue to go as long as we support a government that delights in making itself and its friends wealthy at the expense of everyone else in America.
You know what and who is to blame, don't you?
Deregulation schemes ala John McCain, George Bush, and the Republican Party.
Doesn't that make you and your husband the least bit interested in trying to help change this dire economic situation by changing parties?
If McCain is elected, there is no doubt in my mind that this country will see another great depression, possibly worse than the one that began in 1929.
Heaven help us all!
Yes....who's to blame....sm
The liberal democrats in congress, lining their pockets with kickbacks from all the big financial institutions, and looking the other way, forcing the banks to take the no doc loans.
Obama and Biden taking bribes, and lining their pockets, and Bill Clinton sending all his old cronies to run FM/FM, with absolutely no financial background, to run it into the ground.
Pres. Bush had actually tried to help this situation a few years back, and guess what? Harry Reid and other dems blocked his attempts.
They now completely blame George Bush. Granted, perhaps some of the blame could lay with him, because he should have been powerful enough to get something like this done.
But he made a fatal error. He tried to reach across the aisle, and put dems in charge of certain committes, and such, and all they did was stab him in the back, and make him ineffectual. So much for the dems reaching across the aisle. Their sole purpose for the past two years has been in making Bush look bad. No one can deny it.
So look to your own party. It ain't pretty.
blame
I havent blamed Obama. I agree the McC camp has stirred up the heat a bit with the socialism, marxists and terrorists comments. However, I feel that Obama is responsible for his supporters to a point and being that he is very influential over his following, he should be speaking out about peace and trying to let people know that racial bad behavior of any kind is not condoned.
There's nothing to blame him for
HE is the one that has had his life threatened. If anything, the McCain camp should be speaking out against this. I agree with Keith Olberman. McCain should have come out immediately against that volunteer of his with her bogus accusations of being attacked by a big black man. Give me a break! He has done nothing but put these fears into people that don't know any better, and I do hold him responsible for a lot of this. In my eyes, he is nothing but evil.
So you are going to blame....
this whole thing on a man who hasn't even been sworn in yet? May I borrow your crystal ball?
I believe that the blame goes
to both government and the automakers. For them to pay skilled trades a buttload of money and allow them to sit and do nothing and then retire at age 50 and live off of GM isn't right. That is GM's fault for allowing that happen. As for making big trucks and SUVs....it was what the people wanted at that time. That really wasn't a huge concern until gas prices started to skyrocket. They were making what they thought people wanted. They couldn't predict that gas would skyrocket like it did and the economy would collapse like it has.
and some of the blame goes to...
us. the American people, those who did not support industry in the US. rush out and buy those foreign cars. it may be cheaper in the short term but in the long run....no way, it will kill us all. Can't see the forest through the trees. Geez louise. Complain about losing jobs in the US and jobs from US going overseas and then buy foreign products instead of American made and what do you expect. Do you realize the far-reaching implications of the auto industry going bust???? All the suppliers affected. And all the money that would be earned by the by those millions of people who will now be earning, and thus spending, nothing. That is all money that would be supporting every other business. you can put blame anywhere you want but we all deserve some of it for destroying our own economy.
Then how can you sit and try to blame
on President Bush? You have tuned him out and ignored him since 2000, you never tried to give him a chance. Luckily, you were not in one of those towers or on one of those airplanes on 9/11. Whether you like it or not, you are still safe, so far, from those terrorists.
I will not be answering any snide, disrespectful comebacks about our president. No matter what has happened, he has earned our respect. I personally am thankful to have had a man who never had a problem over whether or not to say *so help me God.*
Can you blame her?
Who knows where those lips have been? LOL!
We cannot blame everything
on the past 8 years. Granted, the past 8 years weren't the greatest and some major mistakes were made, but there were some things that were going on during prior presidencies that lead to this. The problem was that no one stopped it once it got started and it just snowballed. Now we have Obama in the office and we are still snowballing. If you want to place blame, you need to go back further than Bush and include some others as well. Now it is Obama's turn and we need to keep our eye on him because he continues to spend spend spend!!!!! Yeah....that worked out so well in the past 8 years huh......
Well, of course you do, because it's something else to blame Bush for. nm
Bush really is to blame for everything
including natural disasters and including the fact that people built a city below sea level with water on all sides and was told that anything over a Cat 3 storm would wipe out the city. The city failed in adequately planning to evacuate the people in case of such an emergency. While I'm absolutely heartbroken to what is happening to people there, especially those who couldn't evacuate themselves the city has been told this would happen for years. Even if Bush had not cut some funds to the area adequate plans would have still not been in place. Everyone has said at one time or another that New Orleans was a disaster waiting for a Cat 4 or higher storm to happen. You can pin this on Bush like you do everything else that happens in this world, but Bush is hardly to blame for the devastation. Finger pointing does no good at this point. We all must dig deep and do what we can do for those in New Orleans. Arguing the political aspects of this disaster will not hydrate one dehydrated baby or feed one hungry person or build one adequate shelter.
My advice to everyone is to step away from your computer, go buy some non-perishable items and get it to a relief point tomorrow.
dont blame me
Once again surmising about someone on a teeny weeny board. I would never do that, LOL. I would hope you are all good people with a different ideology, that is all, and hopefully one day we could understand each other a bit..but once again, attacking, on the liberal board no less. Please dont attack the messenger, figure out why it all happened and make sure those responsible are held to task. That is what Im trying to do, get the facts of it all. If the things I am posting seem to all be attacking Bush, these are articles in the last few days papers, many papers. They are the ones questioning what the heck is happening down on the gulf and, in turn, so am I. You dont know anything about me and what I do to help others..Politicizing a tragedy? No. Looking at why it happened and what America could have done to have made it not so bad, yes. That is something our govt has to do. Who is at fault. Not for the hurricane, of course, but the levees collapsing, the aid not getting to the unfortunate ones, the money that should have been given to New Orleans but went to war instead, even though Bush was still giving out tax breaks to *his class of people*, the super rich.
Blame the victims
So...lets just blame the victims, the ones who live in New Orleans..OMG..Put the blame where it belongs, on the federal govt for cutting funds to shore up the levees..and who was in control at that time.....BUSH..he needed the money for the rich peoples tax cuts and the insane war.
All you can do is the blame game. Then you better
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If they don't like the message, they blame the
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If you want to blame someone for your 401K,
nm
Well of course they will......you think they gonna blame
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You can blame those that tried to live beyond their
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This is where I blame ACORN
I think registered voters should have to prove their knowledge on the matters at hand prior to voting. Just a 5 or 10-question test to make sure they know their candidate's policies.
Do we really want our "welfare" society to determine our next President? That's what ACORN is making sure will happen.
I don't think you can blame in on either candidate (sm)
It is merely by virtue of the fact that they are different races that the the hidden racism in our country has risen up to such extremes, in both directions. It has become a battle of the races. It is almost a matter of pride at this point. And pride is the root of so many bad things.
I am no fan but I blame her handlers
for that one. Didn't anybody screen the call or verify that Sarkozy would be calling?
Why are u putting blame elsewhere.
I hate to say it, but could be because he is black or arab african.
moving this from below...some of the blame
I posted this below but will say it again.
some of the blame here has to go to the American people, those who did not support industry in the US. Rush out and buy those foreign cars. it may be cheaper in the short term but in the long run....no way, it will kill us all. Can't you all see the forest through the trees. Geez louise. Complain about losing jobs in the US, complain about American businesses failing and jobs from US going overseas and then buy foreign products instead of American made and what do you expect. Do you realize the far-reaching implications of the auto industry going bust???? All the suppliers affected. And all the money that would be earned by those millions of people who will now be earning, and thus spending, nothing. That is all money that would be supporting every other business, including ours as all of those people will also lose their health benefits and seeking less medical care thus less work and less profit for us. You can put blame anywhere you want but we all deserve some of it for destroying our own economy.
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