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You poor thing. I'll say an extra prayer for the demons to leave your heart.

Posted By: Libby on 2005-09-19
In Reply to: Yeah, you radiate love like a heat seeking missle. No thanks. nm - sm

Big hug.




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we'll just have to be extra

careful when responding to you.


 


I'll bring extra butter...got drinks? sm
Sadly this is degenerating into a no holds barred free-for-all. That being said, Sam's posts at least contain facts and research and provoke discussion. Sally just posts to cause trouble. If you notice, not too many people are paying her much attention.
Yes, that's what I'm saying. I'll leave that to his
I've lived long enough not to swallow everything I see, especially from sources like this, as "gospel", if you'll pardon the pun.
yeah we'll leave you to your
leave you to your bong and love beads. You all talk a big game but your brain cells are too fried to actually do anything for this country
No. You won't leave. You'll continue on.

Not unlike Bush, who wants to have world domination, you want to dominate all boards here. 


Accidents are exused.  There's no reason on earth to excuse you.


If GP tries to leave, we'll hog tie her. Howz that? LOL (nm)
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I'll leave that judgment call up to
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If you leave our board, I'll leave your board.

Oh, poor thing.....they need you to protect them
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Poor thing....... wonder where Obama's little tax
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Disability is one thing...poor planning is another
I'm sorry for your situation, and I do believe people who cannot work due to a disability should have help. I'm not heartless. I'm really kind of stumped, because I thought employers and insurance companies could no longer deny/discriminate people a job and/or insurance because of pre-existing conditions. I know that you can't get disability insurance with pre-existing conditions, but again, it's my understanding that no one can be denied health insurance because of pre-existing conditions. My husband has diabetes and has changed jobs in the last five years and has gotten ins. with no problem.

The problem with most socialized medicine is that if you have a serious condition, say like cancer, at some point they quit treating you. This is what is happening in the U.K. as we speak. So, in a round about way that's being denied health care altogether. You have to then seek it out of pocket, and most of the time you have to leave your home country to pay for it out of pocket.

Unfortunately, health care is not a right. It's a privilege. Again, the problem with U.S. health care is the government at it's core, and it will only get worse if the government is given full management over it.

I can certainly see why you are the backward typist, poor thing.
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Next thing you know, they'll
because his card isn't religious enough...good grief.


'Holiday' Cards Ring Hollow for Some on Bushes' List

By Alan Cooperman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 7, 2005; A01

What's missing from the White House Christmas card? Christmas.

This month, as in every December since he took office, President Bush sent out cards with a generic end-of-the-year message, wishing 1.4 million of his close friends and supporters a happy holiday season.

Many people are thrilled to get a White House Christmas card, no matter what the greeting inside. But some conservative Christians are reacting as if Bush stuck coal in their stockings.

This clearly demonstrates that the Bush administration has suffered a loss of will and that they have capitulated to the worst elements in our culture, said William A. Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights.

Bush claims to be a born-again, evangelical Christian. But he sure doesn't act like one, said Joseph Farah, editor of the conservative Web site WorldNetDaily.com. I threw out my White House card as soon as I got it.

Religious conservatives are miffed because they have been pressuring stores to advertise Christmas sales rather than holiday specials and urging schools to let students out for Christmas vacation rather than for winter break. They celebrated when House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) insisted that the sparkling spectacle on the Capitol lawn should be called the Capitol Christmas Tree, not a holiday spruce.

Then along comes a generic season's greeting from the White House, paid for by the Republican National Committee. The cover art is also secular, if not humanist: It shows the presidential pets -- two dogs and a cat -- frolicking on a snowy White House lawn.

Certainly President and Mrs. Bush, because of their faith, celebrate Christmas, said Susan Whitson, Laura Bush's press secretary. Their cards in recent years have included best wishes for a holiday season, rather than Christmas wishes, because they are sent to people of all faiths.

That is the same rationale offered by major retailers for generic holiday catalogues, and it is accepted by groups such as the National Council of Churches. I think it's more important to put Christ back into our war planning than into our Christmas cards, said the council's general secretary, the Rev. Bob Edgar, a former Democratic congressman.

But the White House's explanation does not satisfy the groups -- which have grown in number in recent years -- that believe there is, in the words of the Heritage Foundation, a war on Christmas involving an ever-stronger push toward a neutered 'holiday' season so that non-Christians won't be even the slightest bit offended.

One of the generals on the pro-Christmas side is Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association in Tupelo, Miss. Sometimes it's hard to tell whether this is sinister -- it's the purging of Christ from Christmas -- or whether it's just political correctness run amok, he said. I think in the case of the White House, it's just political correctness.

Wildmon does not give retailers the same benefit of the doubt. This year, he has called for a consumer boycott of Target stores because the chain issued a holiday advertising circular that did not mention Christmas. Last year, he aimed a similar boycott at Macy's Inc., which averted a repeat this December by proclaiming Merry Christmas in its advertising and in-store displays.

It bothers me that the White House card leaves off any reference to Jesus, while we've got Ramadan celebrations in the White House, Wildmon said. What's going on there?

At the Catholic League, Donohue had just announced a boycott of the Lands' End catalogue when he received his White House holiday card. True, he said, the Bushes included a verse from Psalm 28, but Psalms are in the Old Testament and do not mention Jesus' birth.

They'd better address this, because they're no better than the retailers who have lost the will to say 'Merry Christmas,' he said.

Donohue said that Wal-Mart, facing a threatened boycott, added a Christmas page to its Web site and fired a customer relations employee who wrote a letter linking Christmas to Siberian shamanism. He was not mollified by a letter from Lands' End saying it adopted the 'holiday' terminology as a way to comply with one of the basic freedoms granted to all Americans: freedom of religion.

Ninety-six percent of Americans celebrate Christmas, Donohue said. Spare me the diversity lecture.

Diversity has been a hallmark of White House greeting cards for some time, according to Mary Evans Seeley of Tampa, Fla., author of Season's Greetings From the White House. The last presidential Christmas card that mentioned Christmas was in 1992. It was sent by George H.W. and Barbara Bush, parents of the current president.

Seeley said the first president to send out true Christmas cards, as opposed to signed photographs or handwritten letters, was Franklin D. Roosevelt. Merry Christmas From the President and Mrs. Roosevelt, said his first annual card, in 1933.

Like many modern touches, the generic New Year's card was introduced to the White House by John and Jacqueline Kennedy. In 1962, they had Hallmark print 2,000 cards, of which 1,800 cards said The President and Mrs. Kennedy Wish You a Blessed Christmas and 200 said With Best Wishes for a Happy New Year.

Lyndon and Lady Bird Johnson continued that tradition for a couple of years, but it required keeping track of Christian and non-Christian recipients. Beginning in 1966, they wished everyone a Joyous Christmas, and no president has attempted the two-card trick since.

Seeley dates the politicization of the White House Christmas card to Richard M. Nixon, who increased the number of recipients tenfold, to 40,000, in his first year. The numbers since have snowballed, hitting 125,000 under Jimmy Carter, topping 400,000 under Bill Clinton and rising to more than a million under the current Bushes, with each president's political party paying the bill.

The wording, meanwhile, has often flip-flopped. Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter put Merry Christmas in their 1977 card and then switched to Holiday Season for the next three years. Ronald and Nancy Reagan, similarly, began with a Joyous Christmas in 1981 and 1982 but doled out generic holiday wishes from 1983 to 1988. The elder President Bush stayed in the Merry Christmas spirit all four years, and the Clintons opted for inclusive greetings for all of their eight years.

The current Bush has straddled the divide, offering generic greetings along with an Old Testament verse. To some religious conservatives, that makes all the difference.

There's a verse from Scripture in it. I don't mind that at all, as long as we don't try to pretend we're not a nation under God, said the Rev. Jerry Falwell.
© 2005 The Washington Post Company
I sure hope not...I hope he has extra, extra protection sm
I think regardless of which candidate wins they will need extra security this time.
I'll agree with you on one thing
the American people are, for the most part, ignorant sheep.
Most likely, the only thing you'll listen to are
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I'll agree with you - not on the crow thing
But the disturbing fact that he is surrounding himself with the Clintonites. I thought the O kept running on the platform of Change. This is not change. This is the same ol same ol. The Clinton presidency was so nauseating and so much damage was done. Even though I didn't want the O to win I at least had hopes he would bring in new people. Not the same bumbling bubble heads.


Good for Fox - I'm no Fox fan but I'll give them credit for doing the right thing
They say Fair and Balanced but they definitely are more conservative and Sean Hannity really gets on my nerves something awful. He's about as condescening as Rush and treats guests who are liberals as though they are less intelligent than he is.

When I am in favor of conservative viewpoint I will watch them, and when I am in favor of liberal viewpoints I will go to another channel. Never CNN because they praise the Clintons too much. Most of the time I watch MSNBC even though they are more liberal, but at least they are fair and civil to conservatives.

So I give Fox some credit.
One nation, under Stalin....right....you keep pushing that unity thing and we'll be completely
Keep trying to convince yourself.


It's Putin, and Chavez, and Castro that are so proud of us now.


That is, when they're not laughing at us behind our backs.


You are so naive.
Poor, poor MT. She can't pick a fight with anyone on her own board tonight and must come here to

Poor Poor Rush. Hey, how is AIR AMERICA
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You're doing better with an extra 42$ a year?
Sure will make a great nest egg..wow, in 20 years you'll have $840 to finance your retirement!! I know you'll be living high on the hog with that.

And you know you really can't compare what people accomplished earlier this century to what is possible now. My parents also worked their butts off, raised 4 kids with regular doctor and dentist visits and sent them all to college, invested wisely and left a half-million dollar estate to the heirs. My dad never made over 30,000 a year. But you see, when they bought a house in 1960 it cost less than 50% of his annual income. Doctor bills were 80% lower without insurance. A car cost 10% of his annual salary. When insurance did come around, it cost him $16 a month for the whole family. A semester of college at a state university in 1972 was $400. FICA didn't exist and Social Security was pennies out of a paycheck. All this was possible if you started in the 1950s and 1960s - thanks to Democratic leadership. I challenge you to find a four-bedroom house for less than 50% of your income today. Find a new car for 10%. Find health insurance for the whole family for pocket change. Send your kids to the University of Maryland for 10% of one monthly paycheck a semester. It ain't happening. Even when adjusted for cost of living and increased wages it can't be done.

It's social Darwinism now - you either be clever enough to get rich quick or clever enough to game the system big time, or you haven't got a chance to accomplish what average people could a few decades ago simply by minding a modest budget and working hard.


Oops...there is an extra "your" in my post (nm)
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hope y'all don't miss it...still off by one extra day....

Being from Texas, I've had an extra 5 years
Don't believe in all that phoney outrage. I've done my time and prefer to call a spade a spade.
I hope you all enjoy working an extra 10 or 20 hours
So you can give it to Obama to give to the people who don't work. I'd rather spend the time with my famiy.
Just had a friend last night wanting to use my extra bedroom -
NO WAY - would rather take on 10 extra jobs than let somebody else stay in my house with me again....

have tried it and tried it and it never works...
My prayer is for God to have his will in
the lady's life and to prepare her heart to receive him if as her Savior if she has done so. As for her grandson, my prayer is as usual, for God to change his heart and let him know what is right in God's sight and to seek God's guidance in his every decision.
He sure needs prayer because anyone who
is for abortion and anyone who is for gay marriage, well, basically not of God.  He is an eloquent speaker alright.
Prayer is good and thanks...however..sm
I don't see where the article you posted about Ricky Rector is an adequate comparison to the Karen Tucker case where she claimed to have found God and was mocked.

There is also a difference between a mentally challenged person committing a crime and ending up on death row and a person of sane mind committing a crime and injuring his brain in a suicide attempt AFTER THE CRIME (not screaming just trying to get that point across). When he committed the crime, he was not mentally ill.
I agree and second that prayer ....(nm)
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Noone is saying prayer alone works, Sim!
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Get a new line. That prayer cop-out
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At least YOU could stop for a while and say a prayer!
McCain did!
Poor, poor Obama......sm
and I bet you don't think that huge press conference, surrounded by the adoring media masses, pandering to poor me (O) being taken advantage of....you don't believe that was political grandstanding?


Tsk tsk.






Thank you for your honesty and join you in your prayer. nm
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Prayer vigil for our nation
I posted this on the Faith board but I also wanted to post it here just in case...

The North American Mission Board has started a prayer vigil for our nation before the election. If you want to participate there is a sign up and prayer guide at

http://ilivevalues.com/prayer

It's 40 days of prayer and then 40 hours of prayer at the end. Check it out! I think it will really do some good and if God's people work together and call out to Him together to heal our nation, He said He would hear us and do so!

Have a great day!

God Bless!

p.s. this wasn't meant to start a riot or to have a bunch of people who don't believe in prayer or God to get up in arms, it's just for those who would like to participate, so please don't go there. Thanks!

Prayer and reading the Bible
I agree with you and if every person who calls on the name of the Lord Jehovah who sent His Son Jesus (Yeshua) votes for McCain, I believe this nation will stay a free country.  We just need to continue to read the Bible and prayer fervently to the the Lord Jesus and perhaps He will heal our land.
I am praying for Obama too. I join you in prayer. nm
ljdksj
Can we stop the bickering for a few moments and say a sincere prayer...

for those on our gulf coast, and for all the emergency workers down there to help?  They are more important than anything we are saying here right now!


Fierce Prayer for Brstol Palin (Manning)

Manning's Fierce Prayer for Bristol Palin
The Honorable James David Manning speaks to the media about Bristol Palin. This message was preached on 2 September 2008.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4-TZspqlOs


Either side can fail to deliver on promises. My only hope and prayer is that
I'm honestly not 100% sure either one of these candidates can do it so where do people like me fit into the picture? I'm not even sure I will be able to vote for either one, and that's based on my personal values. I don't feel Barack is the man, like many seem to, but I don't feel McCain is, either. I know I'm not alone. I don't believe socialized insurance is the answer, I believe in going after insurance companies that dictate what patients can have done and set premiums too high for people to afford and pharmaceutical companies that pay people off to push their drugs, whether it be doctors, groups, etc. I'd like to see all with tax cuts, not just big companies. Wonderful if they get a break for keeping jobs in the US, but that should be just one of many tax cuts for all, starting with taxes paid at the pump. What about public education? We pay fees and still have to buy extra books and other supplies for our kids' education, yet many children are less educated now out of public high school than ever before because they are too focused on the proficiency tests to actually teach a well-rounded fund of knowledge, so what are the proposals to fix that mess?

No matter who gets elected, they've got quite a job on their hands, and I sincerely doubt either will be able to live up to their promises. And no, I don't necessarily blame Bush for all the problems in this country, but rather I blame all presidents and congress, past and present. Somewhere along the way, it stopped being for the people, that's for sure, and more for their pocketbooks (both Dems AND Repubs). Since so many seem to see Barack as the second coming, I certainly pray that you are right, but I really doubt it. He's had zero experience so who is to say he won't buckle under the load once he realizes what he's gotten into? And McCain isn't my idea of perfection, either, so don't reply by bashing Republicans. I want to hear facts that aren't based on party views but honest-to-goodness facts on who has the best plan in line for these things. And how do you know who is being sincere and who is just making empty campaign promises?
A bipartisan prayer request viewed as provoking hate.
by taking this kind of position and posting these kinds or rants.
Finding those Bachmann, US-style weath distribution and prayer request for O's GM
Hate-generating slurs don't blink an eye, even with Obama's last living elder relative on her death bed. Such class. And this would capture votes how?
Gene Robinson: Gay Bishop Giving Obama Inauguration Prayer

Well, even though that Saddleback jerks is there too...


from the Huffington Post 1/12/09


New Hampshire Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson, a vocal gay rights leader, will open President-elect Barack Obama's inauguration with a prayer on Sunday's kick-off event at the Lincoln Memorial.


"I am writing to tell you that President-Elect Obama and the Inaugural Committee have invited me to give the invocation at the opening event of the Inaugural Week activities, We are One, to be held at the Lincoln Memorial," Robinson wrote in an email to friends.


The announcement comes after weeks of outcry from the gay community over Obama's choice of evangelical, anti-gay pastor Rick Warren to deliver the inaugural invocation.


"It's important for any minority to see themselves represented in some way," Robinson said in an interview with the Concord Monitor. "Whether it be a racial minority, an ethnic minority or, in our case, a sexual minority. Just seeing someone like you up front matters."


Robinson is the first openly gay diocesan bishop in the Anglican Communion. "God never gets it wrong. The church often takes a long time to get it right. It is a human institution, but one capable of self-correction," Robinson told the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. "I believe in my heart that the church got it wrong about homosexuality. There is great excitement in my heart to be living in a time when the church is starting to get it right."


Robinson said he would love to sit down with Rick Warren but believed that the California pastor has "perpetrated lies about the gay, lesbian and bisexual community."


I'll double that 'amen', and I'll raise you one!
amen
Stem Cells - I can't think of one reason why they should throw the extra cells away, rather than sav
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Take heart, MT ME -
...Maybe they will knock the comet into the earth on July 4th and we won't have to worry about SCOTUS anymore, LOL!

or hopefully not, heh...
Take heart, AG. sm
Not all Jews believe like this poster.  I was reading recently about a conference in Washington by conservative Jews, Ben Stein being among them, and a lot of others, including many Rabbis, who are distressed at the pro-abortion stance of some Jews, including the partial birth abortion stance.  Not all Jews believe the same, just as not all Christians do.    According to the Mishnah (Sanhedrin 4:5): Whoever destroys one life is as if he destroyed a whole world, and whoever preserves a life is as if he preserved the whole world.  This was quoted at the conference.  No one person speaks for all.  Thank God. 
ive got more heart than you ever will
you have no idea about my life so don't assume i haven't seen someone (MANY) with a lot less than me.

2 things i lack? you're one class act i can tell. again, you have no idea about my life so to make a personal attack is ridiculous, ruthless, and sad
Please take this old saying to heart - sm.
"If one person tells you you're dead, seek a second opinion.

If 50 people tell you you're dead, lie down."

Do you think maybe there's a reason the overwhelming majority of people on here think JTBB is a douche? So, when "ONE" (gee, I guess that would be YOU) person starts stroking her monkey and kissing her a$$, don't be surprised that the "MOB" calls you on it.