You missed the point of the post
Posted By: Tired MT on 2008-09-01
In Reply to: Sam is getting the same disrespect - She's ben dishing for months....sm
I don't care what happened back in June, July or whenever. You just confirmed what I had said in my post and it sounds like you want some "pay back" for whatever you think you want it for. Who knows, and I don't care. My point I was making was I'd like to see positive posts. I'd like to see true discussions about the candidate you favor and why you favor them or don't favor them (and facts to back up your approval or disapproval). Over the past week I've seen hateful posts not only to Sam but to others who don't agree (whether it's for Obama or McCain). All I'm asking is the board to go back to what it was originally meant for...not a "fight club".
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you missed the point of the original post
The supreme court has not ordered him to produce the original; they are simply reviewing the lower court's ruling regarding Berg bringing the suit in the first place. There is no order to produce the document. This is simply a measure that Berg and the other attorneys requesting the writ are now hoping will bring pressure on the electors to force them to demand the document be presented. But at this point there is no order to produce.
I think you missed my point. sm
But I think this points out where the disonnect lies between those who understand the deadly threat of what we are fighting against and those who do not.
And you have missed my point entirely.
Michelle Obama is a career woman herself. Between her and Obama....they make like 1 million bucks a year. That isn't all his income....that is hers as well. She spends time campaigning and traveling to give speeches. You say SP shouldn't be VP because she has young children. Here Obama is with young children and nothing is said. We assume Michelle is with them 24/7.....did Michelle personally call you and tell you that?? I am just saying that this whole argument about not liking SP because she should stay home with her children is just as relevent to argue when it comes to B. Hussein Obama and Michelle Obama and their children.
I refuse to continue to banter back and forth with you about this. No...I don't know personally if Todd is giving up his career to stay home with the children but I see Michelle doing a he11 of a lot that keeps her away from her and Barry's children.
You missed the point. I was not just
the people in the path of Ike, I AM in the path of Ike myself. I have small children and animals to worry about and there is no one else but me. You cannot understand what it is like to know that evacuation orders are being called, some voluntary, others mandatory, that the path of the storm changes every 3 or 4 hours and you have to make decisions about whether or not to stay or leave. You either stock up on nonperishibles which go flying off the shelves within hours, board up and hunker down or you board up and get the heck out of Dodge.
All day yesterday and last night, the weather channel was announcing that some mandatory evacs had been called, but NOBODY, including local media outlets, was actually saying which ones they were. My comments were more or less about the lack of media coverage but I am also not apologetic about feeling some resentment toward the herd mentality and worship of one single SKIRT, a word which I intentionally chose because as far as I am concerned, up against 5 million people running for their lives and MY OWN CHILDREN, her comings and goings and all the smut politics that has been surrounding the nonstop media blitz was trivial and insignificant. If it were your home, your car, your chldren and your life, you would get that. What is even more disturbing is the fact that some of you do not even seem to have the capacity to take a single moment out of all this juvenile rhetoric and tit-for-tat outrage to stop and just simply try to put yourselves into somebody elses' shoes. Next to my children, SP is a pipsqueak, a skirt....a NOBODY. Wee needed some HELP and we couldn't get it because of all this stupid nonsense. Don't you get that?
You missed the point....
I really don't care if it offends you. If McCain and Palin were taking donations from Muslim countries, I would say the same thing. I am just not one who cares for all that politically correct garbage. Where does that get us?
Considering Obama's "buddies" in the middle east, wouldn't surprise me at all if he doesn't have all kinds of donations by "questionable" people/terrorists....wonder why they felt the need to lie about their name? If you can't deal with that.....too bad!!!
You have missed my point entirely.
I have no problem with an African-American president if that person is the right person for the job. I know there were assassination attempts on white presidents obviously as they all have been white...duh! I'm just saying that there are plenty of crazy whackos out there......just look at the KKK.....who would do anything to not be ruled by a black man. The KKK is just pure hatred against blacks. I'm not saying I believe that or agree with that. I'm just saying that the risk is higher for Obama because of this bigotry. I do not wish anything bad to happen to Obama so don't play the race card or call me a racist. I'm just saying that everyone keeps talking about McCain killing over and dying but no one mentions the fact that Obama could very well be assassinated by some crazy-@ssed KKK groupie.
I think you missed the point here.
Of course the economy is important and on everyone's mind right now. This is the worst economic fiasco since the Great Depression.
It's not always about the money.
Yes you missed something. The point!
Oh, self-proclaimed guru of the message boards. Go back to digging up rocks with your husband.
You obviously missed the point. (sm)
While this legislation is targeted at abortion, it doesn't actually say abortion. It says "procedures." Given it's broad language it can be translated into any type of procedure.
But lets take this scenario into consideration. Girl gets pregnant and wants to have the baby. Girl's health is at risk if she has the baby. Doctor does not believe in abortion at all, so does not have to give that patient the option of abortion. Get the picture yet? It's not all about abortion. It's about limiting health care in general.
You missed the point.
When was the last time you read an article or saw a photo of W hob-knobbing with the great unwashed?
Yup - missed the point
Didn't expect anything less.
Then you have missed the point entirely
You won't see that kind of thing on those news channels because they don't report black people being racist. however, if a white person would even hint at something that may be racist even if it is stretching the truth a tad or not......it is reported all over every newspaper, station, etc. That is the double standard that I am talking about.
Just like the reverend who prayed at the inauguration and prayed that the white may embrace what is right. To me that was racist but not one person mentioned it on the news. I was offended by that. If that had been a white pastor saying something like that about the black community.....it would have been all over the news. Double standards, my friend.....double standards.
You missed the point - and IF he did we WOULD know
The point was IF Bush was having parties people would have been screaming and shouting (but he wasn't). At least he had the decency not to have frat parties in a building that is supposed to be for someone who is supposed to be a statesman representing our country. Instead now it's a frat/animal house.
Second....you bet we would have known. The liberal nazi media were all over every single thing he did. You bet we would have known.
You all screamed and shouted about the money Bush spent on his inauguration, yet you were perfectly fine with the O outspending him by 3 times as much -
Double standards.
You missed the point - and IF he did we WOULD know
The point was IF Bush was having parties people would have been screaming and shouting (but he wasn't). At least he had the decency not to have frat parties in a building that is supposed to be for someone who is supposed to be a statesman representing our country. Instead now it's a frat/animal house.
Second....you bet we would have known. The liberal nazi media were all over every single thing he did. You bet we would have known.
You all screamed and shouted about the money Bush spent on his inauguration, yet you were perfectly fine with the O outspending him by 3 times as much -
Double standards and disgraceful.
You missed the point....
Considering we have no opposition to alcohol in this country (other than huge taxes on it), why are we so concerned about legalizing marijuana. Either can impair you, driving or otherwise. When we had prohibition, alcohol was still around and there were those that made a killing smuggling that stuff in and selling it. If marijuana were legalized, there wouldn't be a huge black market for it and all the criminal activity it encourages (smuggling)from across the border would go down. We empower the druglords with all this.
Marijuana has shown to have great results for medicinal uses, yet our govt still wants to punish those that use it legitimately. How ludicrous is that? I don't know of anyone with an illness who actually has benefitted from alcohol, other than to just get drunk.
Sure, if legalized, it would be used just like alcohol, as a recreational substance, but it could also be utilized by those with real illnesses that could really benefit from it.
I think you missed the point...(sm)
Wouldn't condoning torture fall into the sin category? --- which is not something athiests would worry about or preach about. The obvious point that you are ignoring is the fact that condoning torture by any "christian" is blatent hipocrisy.
You guys are all about being against gay marriage and abortion because it would be a sin, and would like to base laws on these beliefs, but when it comes to torture (also a sin) it's a whole different ballgame.
I think you've missed the point.
Actually, marriage was originally a prearranged affair based on economics and had nothing to do with love or anything sacred. The point in the parody of the White House *Department of Faith* is that religious extremists fail at their *sacred* marriages (and many other things), yet they critize homosexuals for wanting the equal sacred AND legal protections they enjoy. The hypocrisy is that religious fanatics don't obey their own commandments and teachings of the bible (just like my right-wing reactionary cousin) and yet are ready to condemn everyone else.
Further, your comment about homosexuals dying out because they don't procreate is just plain bizarre. Humans are animals as well and have the same basic instincts (for better and worse) so that some species mate for life as heterosexuals, others are promiscuous, AND some chimps have been studies to be sexual with members of the same gender. Evolution is vast and far-reaching. Given the overpopulation of our planet, I don't think this is something we need to worry about. You almost prove Darwin's theory....do you think homosexuals really *choose* to be homosexual? Why in the world would they want to subject themselves to the homophobia and hatred? Homosexuality was even *gasp* celebrated in ancient Greece.
Oh yeah, and if sex is only for procreation, why do you (at least I assume you do) have a certain body part that plays no role in childbirth whatsoever and is apparently only for pleasure?
You've missed the point, again.
In a rush to be proven right, you missed my point once again. Yes, you can chose them all. It's call peace.
Being pro-choice doesn't mean pro-abortion. You have chosen to speak out and act against abortion because you believe it to be against God's will. Is that ideology so different than other actions undertaken because they felt it was God's will? I don't think I need to list them for you. Most of the horrendous actions against mankind has been at the hands of other men in the name of religion. To me, this is no different.
In so doing, you are taking part in subjugation which is against what the constitution stands for. Correct? Keep it out of the government and keep out of the courts. In needs to be kept at a social level. Educate women against it. Give the women the love and support they need to make the right choice, but you cannot and should not make it for them.
I agree, you do need to adjust your thinking. I do not have intolerance for those who think differently, I have intolerance for those who cannot take another's opinion or perception without tearing it down. Sometimes it pays to be a better listener than a speaker. Tends to the offensive rather than the defensive which seem to be what most of your posts are.
I am officially jumping off this carousel.
Obvoiusly you missed my point . . .
I guess if it was okay to do that on taxpayer's money, she wouldn't be being investigated now, would she?
LOL you missed the entire point...
If saving innocent lives (abortion) is your goal, then MCBUSH is certainly *not* the lesser of two evils because he is CHOMPING at the bit to start MORE fake wars that kill MORE innocent people.
Or as I said before, does it only matter if the "innocent life" being killed is American...?
Are Americans really this stupid they can't see that all these FAKE WAR deplete our own treasury, kil people, and MAKE US MORE ENEMIES??
OR, DO WE have to be brought to our knees by the CIVILIZED portion of the world before we stand up to government that invades innocent countries with OUR money using OUR sons and daughters as cannon fodder?
You must have missed my point, ju ju bean...sm
There is no coverage of "real" conservative economists in the mainstream media who DO NOT support Obama.
I don't have hours and hours to search to find them....but rest assured, they are there, buried amongst the Yes-Men that have climbed aboard the Obama bandwagon.
Like I said, they are not there amongst the mainstream media. The ones that are "AGAINST" Obama's plan.
You people have missed the whole point.
President Obama has not even been president for a week yet and he has an extremely long list of promises that he has made. Truthfully, there are some promises I don't want him to keep because I don't agree with him. He just has a lot of live up to because he has promises so much. I don't expect for him to do everything right away because that is impossible and for you to suggest that I expect this "change" to happen overnight is both stupid and unrealistic. I was just stating the fact that he has been pres for less than a week, has already broken 2 promises he has made, and has a rather large list of more promises. It was just an observation. Don't have a cow.
You missed the point....she was trying to end another's life!
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I am not surprised that you missed my point.
If they have done this with other presidents, fine. If Obama is the first, it just goes to show the love affair the media, including CNN, has with Obama and the bias they report in his favor. That was my point and I was trying to be nice in inquiring about whether or not they had done this type of thing with previous presidents, but since you have jumped on me for my post....I'm not going to be nice any more. I'm tired of the love affair with Obama and the free passes he gets for everything including the obvious and blantant lies that he tells. Makes me sick.
The reason people are scrutinizing everything Obama does is because our country is in deep deep doo doo.....if you haven't noticed......and yes this started before Obama's administration but now that he is the big cheese on campus.....it is his time to be observed and if I don't feel that what he is doing is best for our economy and our country, I have a right to say something and express my concerns. I'm not unpatriotic for disagreeing with him. I'm not racist for disagreeing with him. I'm not republican for disagreeing with him.
Barack Obama is just a man. He isn't the Messiah like the left try to make him out to be and he isn't the anti-christ like some on the right try to portray him as.....but he is our president and I have a right to voice my opinion on whether or not I think he is doing a good job and quite frankly......I'm not very impressed with him yet.
As for CNN celebrating Obama's 100 days as president....I'm sure they will make him once again look like he does no wrong and he is to be worshiped. Therefore, I will not be watching it. I had enough of the sickening adoration of him during the inaguration. I am proud that our country has looked past the prejudice of skin to elect the first African American president, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be criticized and questioned just like every other president that has ever been in office. This is our country and we have a right to question what he does if we disagree with him. I don't have a problem with an African American as president.....I just don't think Barack Obama was the right guy for the job.
And quite honestly....I'd be just as disgusted by this if this was the first 100 days of Hillary's presidency because there are a lot of things I don't agree with her on either. So spare me!
I think you've missed the point....again..(sm)
Believe me, we know what Rush is, that he doesn't hold any office and is simply a poor entertainment choice. We've been saying that for years. It's not the dems who give him more credibility than he deserves, it's the pubs. Why else would elected republican officials have to stoop to kiss his behind and apologize for disagreeing with him, and even get fired as in the instance above? The dems have no misconceptions about Rush's role. We just find it amusing that the pubs can't seem to figure it out.
The point....which you missed....in bliss I suppose....
was the comment in disproportionate numbers. There is nothing to support that contention. Obviously there is a problem with pedophilia among priests...but not in any more disproportionate numbers than in the rest of the population. Teachers, coaches, daycare workers and owners..next door neighbors and relatives. THAT was the point.
What are you saying, death threats are okay? you missed the point
completely, that is utter ridiculousness. the poster meant I think people at McCain's rallies are calling for Obama's death - are you going to stick with that thought, that he should be able to take it? Could not disagree with you more
You missed the point - go figure (see message)
The point was that a President must pass a background check with the FBI - has nothing to do with applying to work for the FBI. He can't pass a basic background check (oh yeah, I feel real safe with him that close to the "launch" button).
So, he can't pass a background check and he is not American born and he's getting a free pass...go ahead make him president. Maybe his cabinet people will be Ahmandinejab, Mohammar Kadafi, Castro, Kim Jong iL, etc. Plus the others he'll form back up with (Ayers & Wright) - after all it will be too late by then.
You're obviously one who has missed his entire point
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You completely missed the point didn't ya? And where
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From a post below in case you missed it.
From Change.gov
Create a Civilian Assistance Corps (CAC): Obama and Biden will create a national CAC of 25,000 personnel. This corps of civilian volunteers with special skill sets (doctors, lawyers, engineers, city planners, agriculture specialists, police, etc.) would be organized to provide each federal agency with a pool of volunteer experts willing to deploy in times of need at home and abroad.
You must have missed my earlier post.
There are plenty of places to go for accurate information on this, so quite whining about media silence. You just don't know where to look. Try the world wide web for a change.
Here ya go. Just a few examples for you to mull over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAieKGwQp-s
In the flesh interview with Dr. Larry Hunter, influential conservative economist, talks about why he endorses Obama. Interview starts @ 1:25 into the clip.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2009-01-08-obama-economy_N.htm
Conservative economist Martin Feldstein agrees that "reviving the economy requires a major fiscal stimulus from tax cuts and increased government spending."
For now, most conservative Republicans who could try to block the new Democratic president's plan are willing to boost red ink. Armed with an electoral mandate and faced with a mammoth recession, Obama is being given a wide berth by the GOP. "We need to govern," says Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., top Republican on the Senate Budget Committee. "These issues are so huge and are going to have such a devastating impact on our nation if they're not aggressively and boldly addressed, that we can't afford for this just to be a party-line event."
... but even conservative economists agree a huge stimulus package with a variety of spending initiatives is needed. "I have just two words: big and everything," says Martin Regalia, VP, Economic and Tax Policy and chief economist for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE49U3DC20081031
The endorsement from the Economist (a virtual bastion of conservatives) raised a few eyebrows.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113701/Majority-Americans-Favor-775-Billion-Economic-Stimulus.aspx
This kind of support is at least as significant as that of conservative economists.
Ain't cut and paste grand?
I missed a good post apparently!
Heh - I love a good frenzied tirade too. Dang. Leave it to Observer! :::::whistling:::::
Just in case you missed the reply to your other post...
Perhaps it was the ministries at the Trinity United Church that attracted Obama...much like the ministries of other Americans attract them to their churches? Ya think?
1. Can-Cer-Vive support to cancer patients and caregivers.
2. Churh school and youth church.
3. Counseling services, both individual and group.
4. Emmaus Road Ministry, which provides companions, prayer partners, helpers and friends for grieving persons, months after the passing of a loved one. Ongoing contact with the family is maintained.
5. Girl Scouts.
6. Teen choir.
7. Computer classes.
8. Assistance to physically, mentally and emotionally handicapped.
9. Marriage enrichment seminars.
10. Workshops on building and maintaining Christian homes.
11. Men's chorus.
12. Men's fellowship.
13. Bible study.
14. Sanctuary choir.
15. Stewardship.
16. Women's chorus.
17. Women's drill team.
18. Yoga.
19. Youth drill team.
20. Active seniors.
21. Adopt-a-Student.
22. Athletes for Christ.
23. Career development.
24. Church in the community.
25. Domestic violence advocacy and support.
26. Drug and alcohol recovery.
27. Food share.
28. Grandparent's ministry.
29. HIV/AIDS support.
30. Housing workshops.
31. Health and wellness.
32. Legal counseling.
33. Math tutors.
34. Prison ministry.
35. Reading tutors.
36. Drama.
37. Fine arts and literary guild.
38. Quilting.
39. Adult dance.
40. Music.
These ministries seem to be awfully consistent with Obama's life experiences, political agendas and campaign platforms. That's all the explanation I need.
I guess I missed your earlier post....sm
because I'm not the 1 poster who did respond, lol. I am an Independent who happens to be voting Rebulican this election year (but I guess that is no secret, lol).
I agree....If a person, no matter who it is, is found to be constitutionally ineligible to hold the office of POUS then he/she should be impeached on grounds of treason and jailed immediately.
I answered your post point-by-point and
all you can come up with is a lame tit-for-tat? Can you provide some sort of substantive response that would argue against the point I am trying to make here? Of course not.
Please show me what part of my post reflects bigotry or ignorance? I have made a few statements based on my own life experience, rather than the hook-line-and-sinker method of forming my world view. Then the impotence of your suicide bomber reference was buried under concrete evidence of informed, researched and factual data that would suggest an oppressed, occupied, half-starved population does not have the upper hand when it comes to defending themselves against Israel's US-bankrolled arsenal of pain, misery, death and destruction. They are just a tad out-gunned, wouldn't you say?
I answered your post point-by-point and
all you can come up with is a lame tit-for-tat? Can you provide some sort of substantive response that would argue against the point I am trying to make here? Of course not.
Please show me what part of my post reflects bigotry or ignorance? I have made a few statements based on my own life experience, rather than the hook-line-and-sinker method of forming a world view. Then the impotence of your suicide bomber reference was buried under concrete evidence of informed, researched and factual data that would suggest an oppressed, occupied, half-starved population does not exactly have the upper hand when it comes to defending themselves against Israel's US-bankrolled arsenal of pain, misery, death and destruction they employ in order to "secure" themselves.
The Palestinians are just a tad out-gunned, wouldn't you say? This might just account for the lop-sided fatalities/injuries ratios between the Israelis and the Palestinians. In closing, it is worth noting that even with the advantage of all those terrorist toys and tools our tax dollars have bestowed upon them, security and peace of mind just seem to be further and further beyond their reach. Wonder why that is?
Did you see the point of my post?
These "techniques" are used everywhere. I am sure we will also see them in the RNC this week. This son can go ahead and say this about anyone and we are just supposed to buy that it is all communist related? He could have other reasons for putting Obama's name in there, maybe he is just trying to stir up trouble, maybe Obama is a closeted communist - who knows. I just don't think he proved anything by this letter, because these are "techniques" I have seen in many different events.
And the point of your post is....(sm)
to show what a "good little christian" you are? What? No Bible verses? No holier than thou sayings? No threats of he11?
You might want to get with your twin, Patty. I hear she has some reptiles ready for the handling. You need a tune up.
Please point out a confrontational post. sm
Every post I have made has been to try and bring harmony to this board. A sense of balance. One need not push the envelope very far with you or gt to have a hateful, venomous response. You might want to get some insight into your behavior.
your post proved my point
My post has turned out to be a right winger nothing to attack GT fall back on that post thingy, LOL, so funny. I love it. Anway, isnt hell and burning in hell where xtians say we all go when we commit crimes, break the ten commandments? Well, that is what I wish for this administration and Bush and his family. It is obvious that is where they are headed when standing in judgment for this war. But, hey, I get it, the old right wingy thingy, do as I say, not as I do. The xtians can spout all the time about burning in hell but if a liberal says it, oopphhss..the worst thing in the world. Right winger, Coulter can say liberals ought to be shot and publish plagerized books full of lies, but hey, she is a right winger, its okay, right winger, Robertson, can call for the assassination of a duly elected leader, but hey, he is a right winger, its okay. Right wingers equals a bunch of hypocrites... Anyway, your post to me proves my point of attacking and ranting and raving from the right wing. *BIG HUG to ya*.
Any chance, there would be a point in this post>
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Thank you for this post - loved it and to the point.
As a Deist myself I find you are right on!
I am so tired of arguing with the closed minded religious nutbags (my sister who newly turned mormon is the worst to talk to - she is so closed minded). The christians always have an answer for everything and they won't listen to the truth.
They also haven't researched who our founding fathers were and what they went through because of what they believed. I think Thomas Paine probably got it the worst. They were the most brilliant men in our history and I'm sure they are rolling over in their grave everytime they hear someone saying our founding fathers were christians or the country was founded on Christianity. Reminds me of when I was watching the O'Reilly factor (who is catholic) and he was trying to tell some Jewish guy that Catholics invented marriage. Luckily the Jewish guest called him on it.
You are absolutely right on - they were NOT christians. They were Deists. Beleiving in a creator does not make one a christian.
Thanks for the post!
actually, Sam dear, the point of this post
who would have voted for McCaine will despise her once they know what she actually stands for
I too don't understand the point of this post
I'm not sure if you are trying to insinuate if Obama had anything to do with this. Tragedies happen and whether you are for or aganst someone trying to link them because they went to the same church to me seems absurd. That would be about the same as trying to link Tom Cruise to the Heavens Gate murders. It's an awful tragedy that happened for whatever reason. There are a lot of people filled with hate these days. Even DH and I were saying last night about the little girl in Texas that was murdered, how can someone actually have the mind to do something horrendous like that. But if your trying to link Obama to this, even though I don't support him I think this is quite far fetched and sounds like your trying to stir up something that isn't there.
You could probably take every murder that occurred and tie it in to something. When it is just a horrible horrible tragedy.
Your post illustrates the point....and I don't know.....
where you were when all the hoohah about the Bush administration doing it was going on...the liberal left wing media (which includes virtually every news outlet in the world except Fox, but Fox covered it too) had a field day with it..."more lies, more deception" yada yada...it WAS a VERY big deal in the eyes of the liberal left. But now that their uuberliberal godhead is doing it...hey, its no big deal...Bush did it. Y'know, I got the impression during the campaign that the big O would rather eat DIRT than do ANYthing Bush had done. LOL...well...how the worm has turned. Orrrrr are you saying that in retrospect, since now that your hero has done it, maybe it wasn't sooooo bad when Bush did it? LOL. Priceless!!
true, your post has nothing inside it. Your point please?
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Good post. I think you made your point!
Go McCain/Palin 2008
You dont get her point? I do! Was a great post!
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Applauding! What a great post, to the point and well written.
I don't think some people realize the seriousness of the illegally invading a sovereign nation for what is truthfully nothing more than regime change, after being dishonest to the entire world about the true reasons for invading this country.
If/when it happens, they still won't get it. And if/when more Americans are killed by terrorists because this president was too stubborn to care about America first and refused to implement most suggestions of the 9/11 Commission, the ones who survive the next terror attack will still be kneeling down and kissing his boots because they are preprogrammed to believe this man can do nothing wrong.
Please point out one post on this board where a poster agreed with
as you claim, "examining the adoption records of Roberts, casting aspersions that his 4-year-old son is gay, that HE is gay (Roberts) because he didn't marry until he was 40."
Please. Just one poster who said on this board that they agree with that.
You've proven that you're not here to debate. You're here to keep the fighting going. You were asked by Democrat to introduce a topic to debate. But you're too obsessed on trashing liberal posters. That's the only topic you've ever mentioned on this board 100 PERCENT OF THE TIME. Look at your posts. They're still here. That's the total extent of them, whining and complaining about the posts of liberals. There isn't ONE post on this board from you regarding an ISSUE.
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