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You miss the title of the file "Conservative extremism"?

Posted By: Reading comprehension problem? on 2009-04-15
In Reply to: OMG, no one has labeled conservatives "extremists." Stop listening to Rush's lies. sm - more lies

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From the "Conservative Underground"
North American Union to Replace USA?







President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada. This was the hidden agenda behind the Bush administration's true open borders policy.

Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA politically, setting the stage for a North American Union designed to encompass the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and Canada.

President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed.

The blueprint President Bush is following was laid out in a 2005 report entitled "Building a North American Community" published by the left-of-center Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The CFR report connects the dots between the Bush administration's actual policy on illegal immigration and the drive to create the North American Union:



At their meeting in Waco, Texas, at the end of March 2005, U.S. President George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin committed their governments to a path of cooperation and joint action. We welcome this important development and offer this report to add urgency and specific recommendations to strengthen their efforts.


What is the plan? Simple, erase the borders. The plan is contained in a "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" little noticed when President Bush and President Fox created it in March 2005:



In March 2005, the leaders of Canada, Mexico, and the United States adopted a Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), establishing ministerial-level working groups to address key security and economic issues facing North America and setting a short deadline for reporting progress back to their governments. President Bush described the significance of the SPP as putting forward a common commitment "to markets and democracy, freedom and trade, and mutual prosperity and security." The policy framework articulated by the three leaders is a significant commitment that will benefit from broad discussion and advice. The Task Force is pleased to provide specific advice on how the partnership can be pursued and realized.

To that end, the Task Force proposes the creation by 2010 of a North American community to enhance security, prosperity, and opportunity. We propose a community based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders that "our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary." Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly and safe. Its goal will be to guarantee a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America.




The perspective of the CFR report allows us to see President Bush's speech to the nation as nothing more than public relations posturing and window dressing. No wonder President Vincente Fox called President Bush in a panic after the speech. How could the President go back on his word to Mexico by actually securing our border? Not to worry, President Bush reassured President Fox. The National Guard on the border were only temporary, meant to last only as long until the public forgets about the issue, as has always been the case in the past.

The North American Union plan, which Vincente Fox has every reason to presume President Bush is still following, calls for the only border to be around the North American Union -- not between any of these countries. Or, as the CFR report stated:



The three governments should commit themselves to the long-term goal of dramatically diminishing the need for the current intensity of the governments’ physical control of cross-border traffic, travel, and trade within North America. A long-term goal for a North American border action plan should be joint screening of travelers from third countries at their first point of entry into North America and the elimination of most controls over the temporary movement of these travelers within North America.


Discovering connections like this between the CFR recommendations and Bush administration policy gives credence to the argument that President Bush favors amnesty and open borders, as he originally said. Moreover, President Bush most likely continues to consider groups such as the Minuteman Project to be "vigilantes," as he has also said in response to a reporter's question during the March 2005 meeting with President Fox.

Why doesn’t President Bush just tell the truth? His secret agenda is to dissolve the United States of America into the North American Union. The administration has no intent to secure the border, or to enforce rigorously existing immigration laws. Securing our border with Mexico is evidently one of the jobs President Bush just won't do. If a fence is going to be built on our border with Mexico, evidently the Minuteman Project is going to have to build the fence themselves. Will President Bush protect America's sovereignty, or is this too a job the Minuteman Project will have to do for him?






Mr. Corsi is the author of several books, including "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry" (along with John O'Neill), "Black Gold Stranglehold: The Myth of Scarcity and the Politics of Oil" (along with Craig R. Smith), "Atomic Iran: How the Terrorist Regime Bought the Bomb and American Politicians," and most recently, "Minutemen: The Battle to Secure America's Borders." He will soon author a book on the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America and the prospect of the forthcoming North American Union.



 

From the "Conservative Underground"
North American Union to Replace USA?







President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada. This was the hidden agenda behind the Bush administration's true open borders policy.

Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA politically, setting the stage for a North American Union designed to encompass the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and Canada.

President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed.

The blueprint President Bush is following was laid out in a 2005 report entitled "Building a North American Community" published by the left-of-center Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The CFR report connects the dots between the Bush administration's actual policy on illegal immigration and the drive to create the North American Union:



At their meeting in Waco, Texas, at the end of March 2005, U.S. President George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin committed their governments to a path of cooperation and joint action. We welcome this important development and offer this report to add urgency and specific recommendations to strengthen their efforts.


What is the plan? Simple, erase the borders. The plan is contained in a "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" little noticed when President Bush and President Fox created it in March 2005:



In March 2005, the leaders of Canada, Mexico, and the United States adopted a Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), establishing ministerial-level working groups to address key security and economic issues facing North America and setting a short deadline for reporting progress back to their governments. President Bush described the significance of the SPP as putting forward a common commitment "to markets and democracy, freedom and trade, and mutual prosperity and security." The policy framework articulated by the three leaders is a significant commitment that will benefit from broad discussion and advice. The Task Force is pleased to provide specific advice on how the partnership can be pursued and realized.

To that end, the Task Force proposes the creation by 2010 of a North American community to enhance security, prosperity, and opportunity. We propose a community based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders that "our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary." Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly and safe. Its goal will be to guarantee a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America.




The perspective of the CFR report allows us to see President Bush's speech to the nation as nothing more than public relations posturing and window dressing. No wonder President Vincente Fox called President Bush in a panic after the speech. How could the President go back on his word to Mexico by actually securing our border? Not to worry, President Bush reassured President Fox. The National Guard on the border were only temporary, meant to last only as long until the public forgets about the issue, as has always been the case in the past.

The North American Union plan, which Vincente Fox has every reason to presume President Bush is still following, calls for the only border to be around the North American Union -- not between any of these countries. Or, as the CFR report stated:



The three governments should commit themselves to the long-term goal of dramatically diminishing the need for the current intensity of the governments’ physical control of cross-border traffic, travel, and trade within North America. A long-term goal for a North American border action plan should be joint screening of travelers from third countries at their first point of entry into North America and the elimination of most controls over the temporary movement of these travelers within North America.


Discovering connections like this between the CFR recommendations and Bush administration policy gives credence to the argument that President Bush favors amnesty and open borders, as he originally said. Moreover, President Bush most likely continues to consider groups such as the Minuteman Project to be "vigilantes," as he has also said in response to a reporter's question during the March 2005 meeting with President Fox.

Why doesn’t President Bush just tell the truth? His secret agenda is to dissolve the United States of America into the North American Union. The administration has no intent to secure the border, or to enforce rigorously existing immigration laws. Securing our border with Mexico is evidently one of the jobs President Bush just won't do. If a fence is going to be built on our border with Mexico, evidently the Minuteman Project is going to have to build the fence themselves. Will President Bush protect America's sovereignty, or is this too a job the Minuteman Project will have to do for him?






Mr. Corsi is the author of several books, including "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry" (along with John O'Neill), "Black Gold Stranglehold: The Myth of Scarcity and the Politics of Oil" (along with Craig R. Smith), "Atomic Iran: How the Terrorist Regime Bought the Bomb and American Politicians," and most recently, "Minutemen: The Battle to Secure America's Borders." He will soon author a book on the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America and the prospect of the forthcoming North American Union.



 

Since you seem to know, just what is the "conservative agenda", please? sm
..and kindly provide references from the conservative sources themselves, not from liberal sources that are a little too prone to misinterpretations and mischaracterizations.

Thank you. I apologize in advance if this request imposes a burden on you to get your facts straight, but you'll be better informed for having made the effort.
When did "conservative" and "liberal" become insults?

It seems to serve the purposes of politicians very well to encourage their followers to label, demonize and fear those who belong to "the other" party, and to paint them all with whatever nutty ideas the true extremists in the other party happen to believe.


The truth is that most "ordinary" Democrats are only a little more liberal than most "ordinary" Republicans, and vice versa, but we are encouraged to hate one another because this serves the purposes of the parties.  Politics has become not a matter of which party offers the most persuasive platform of positive ideas, but seeing who can create the largest howling, mindless mob.


Put your "everyday" Democrat and Republican in a room together attending some nonpolitical function - say, for instance, a baby shower or a choir practice.  They don't happen to know which party anyone belongs to.  What kinds of things do you hear them talking about?  What aspirations do you hear them express?  You'll be amazed at how much they have in common, sharing concerns for good schools, safe streets, job security, affordable healthcare, and many other issues.  The Democrat will be no happier about the increase in the sales tax than the Republican, and the Republican will agree that the current system of healthcare leaves too many people without options.


You're a liberal, and I'll bet that you're a moderate liberal.  I'm a conservative, but I'm a moderate conservative.  If we could get together outside of Washington, we'd probably come to some pretty workable, livable and even affordable solutions to the common problems that we all share.


Let's recognize what's happening to us as those in power in Washington find it useful for us to hate one another.  Let's resist.  And let's all see if we can't find some moderates in both parties that we can send to Washington who will truly represent who the American people truly are and what the American people truly believe when we refuse to be manipulated into positions of hatred toward one another.


 


Louis Farrakhan is a "conservative media outlet" sm
or a blog? I do believe the words came right from his very own mouth.
pdf file is posted above...
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So? GM will "likely" file for bankruptcy, but
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How do you file taxes without a W2 or 1040? YOU CAN'T!
So,they had to work somewhere.......one of them or both of them......half truths make bigger lies.
State Fires 2 for Looking at Obama File
State Fires 2 for Looking at Obama File
State Department Fires 2 Workers for Inappropriately Looking at Barack Obama's Passport File

The Associated Press
WASHINGTON

Two contract employees for the State Department have been fired and a third disciplined for inappropriately looking at the passport file of Democratic Sen. Barack Obama's passport file, a spokesman said Thursday.

Spokesman Sean McCormack said the department itself detected the instances of "imprudent curiosity," which occurred separately on Jan. 9, Feb. 21 and March 14. He would not release the names of those who were fired and disciplined.

"We believe this was out of imprudent curiosity, so we are taking steps to reassure ourselves that that is, in fact, the case," McCormack said.

Bill Burton, a spokesman for Obama's presidential campaign, called for a complete investigation.

"This is an outrageous breach of security and privacy, even from an administration that has shown little regard for either over the last eight years. Our government's duty is to protect the private information of the American people, not use it for political purposes," Burton said.

"This is a serious matter that merits a complete investigation, and we demand to know who looked at Senator Obama's passport file, for what purpose, and why it took so long for them to reveal this security breach," he said.

McCormack said it was not immediately clear what the contract employees may have seen in the records or what they were looking for. He said he did not know the names of the companies they worked for.

The department has informed Obama's Senate office of the breach, and a personal briefing for the senator's staff was scheduled for Friday, McCormack said.
Yes it is. Any attorney with an ax to grind can file appeals
until he gets it through his thick skull that his claim is lame. Got any idea how long it take to wend your way through immigration courts these days? Count yourself lucky if the case has been resolved by the next election cycle.
She didnt file the suit, just posting it.
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Donald Trump's NJ Casinos file for bankruptcy

 


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/feb/17/donald-trump-casinos-bankruptcy-protection


Link doesn't work - No File Found
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</a><br /> semeni4 semeni4 is a cool boy!! <a href=http://curio-cabinet.mctry.com> Curio cabinet </a> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="I can see the title of her next book now...sm" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-I-can-see-the-title-of-her-next-book-now-sm-6328.html">I can see the title of her next book now...sm</a><br /> *The Liberals Took My Voting Rights.* She's such a nutjob! <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Actually, I believe it's an album title." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Actually-I-believe-it-39s-an-album-title--25667.html">Actually, I believe it's an album title.</a><br /> point you hoped to achieve by posting that? Or did you just think it sounded clever? It means "attention" or "careful," and as such, does not even address the issue. Please, do tell how a rumor about SP possibly trying to get someone fired translates to her "loving to fire people." Was there proof that she had someone fired? Or do you always believe everything you hear on TV and take it as gospel without looking into the facts? <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="I believe the title is "Holiness"" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-I-believe-the-title-is-34Holiness-34-55915.html">I believe the title is "Holiness"</a><br /> <P>x</P> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="You need to reread the title......." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-You-need-to-reread-the-title--57651.html">You need to reread the title.......</a><br /> xx <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Exactly. You would think the job title would have given the Prez. a hint.sm" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Exactly-You-would-think-the-job-title-would-have-given-the-Prez-a-hint-sm-2377.html">Exactly. You would think the job title would have given the Prez. a hint.sm</a><br /> You know, Federal EMERGENCY Management Agency. Sometimes I wonder, no I wonder a lot about this prez and his decision making. <br /> <br /> Will 2008 get here soon enough? No telling what he'll do in a WHOLE 2-1/2 years.<br /> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="See inside. I can't figure out what to title this. LOL" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-See-inside-I-can-39t-figure-out-what-to-title-this-LOL-49932.html">See inside. I can't figure out what to title this. LOL</a><br /> <P>I just don't know a nice way to say this but those families that have babies they can't afford do so just to get on the welfare system. They certainly don't want that taken away from them. As long as they have babies, they won't have to work and live off the system. </P><br /> <P>What does Pelosi plan to do? Force everyone on birth control that have X amount of dollars per each child and state "You make $1 less than you're allowed to have this many children. Now you go on birth control." </P><br /> <P>Before you flame me, my husband's cousin did that. He was too lazy to work as was his wife...well, nah, she didn't have time to get a job. She was too busy having kids. </P><br /> <P> </P><br /> <P> </P> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="That is NOT in the title. More lies. Keep drinking." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-That-is-NOT-in-the-title-More-lies-Keep-drinking--57546.html">That is NOT in the title. More lies. Keep drinking.</a><br /> nm <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="See message (unsure of a subject title to put)" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-See-message-unsure-of-a-subject-title-to-put--58860.html">See message (unsure of a subject title to put)</a><br /> I have mixed feelings. There are horrible things going on in the world and always will be. Some call it torture others do not. It's all a matter of opinion. The people who are interrogators are trained in how to obtain information from the enemies. We (you and me and others on this board) are not. What is your solution to this? What do you suggest they do to keep America safe? Do you have any solutions or suggestions? We don't kill prisoners - unlike our enemies. However, we must use whatever technique we can to get the vital information needed. We don't cause bodily injury, and we don't cut off their heads very slowly like they do. So, they think they are going to die, you know what...I don't care. Just get the information needed to keep America safe. Unless you belong to the military or any of these government agencies involved in this type of work, you don't really know what is going on. Sorry but sitting down with a nice cup of tea and some crumpets and asking them nicely is not going to get them to speak. I say leave the decisions like this to the people who are in charge of this and trained in this. More important things going on than to think about if we are hurting the feelings of our enemies. <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="The dark side of faith (title of article)" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-The-dark-side-of-faith-title-of-article--3625.html">The dark side of faith (title of article)</a><br /> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=5 width=100% border=0><br /> <TBODY><br /> <TR><br /> <TD bgColor=#ffffff><br /> <P><FONT color=#333300><EM><STRONG>(Considering how much importance the *right* religion is going to play in our future Supreme Court, I thought it was ironic that I found this at the Professional Ethics site. http://ethics.tamucc.edu/article.pl?sid=05/10/01/1656216)</STRONG></EM></FONT></P><br /> <P><A href=http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-brooks1oct01,0,3034570.story?track=hpmostemailedlink>http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-brooks1oct01,0,3034570.story?track=hpmostemailedlink</A><BR></P><br /> <H1>The dark side of faith</H1>By ROSA BROOKS<BR><BR>October 1, 2005<BR><BR>IT'S OFFICIAL: Too much religion may be a dangerous thing. <BR><BR>This is the implication of a study reported in the current issue of the Journal of Religion and Society, a publication of Creighton University's Center for the Study of Religion. The study, by evolutionary scientist Gregory S. Paul, looks at the correlation between levels of popular religiosity and various quantifiable societal health indicators in 18 prosperous democracies, including the United States.<BR><BR>Paul ranked societies based on the percentage of their population expressing absolute belief in God, the frequency of prayer reported by their citizens and their frequency of attendance at religious services. He then correlated this with data on rates of homicide, sexually transmitted disease, teen pregnancy, abortion and child mortality.<BR><BR>He found that the most religious democracies exhibited substantially higher degrees of social dysfunction than societies with larger percentages of atheists and agnostics. Of the nations studied, the U.S. — which has by far the largest percentage of people who take the Bible literally and express absolute belief in God (and the lowest percentage of atheists and agnostics) — also has by far the highest levels of homicide, abortion, teen pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases. <BR><BR>This conclusion will come as no surprise to those who have long gnashed their teeth in frustration while listening to right-wing evangelical claims that secular liberals are weak on values. Paul's study confirms globally what is already evident in the U.S.: When it comes to values, if you look at facts rather than mere rhetoric, the substantially more secular blue states routinely leave the Bible Belt red states in the dust.<BR><BR>Murder rates? Six of the seven states with the highest 2003 homicide rates were red in the 2004 elections (Louisiana, Mississippi, Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, South Carolina), while the deep blue Northeastern states had murder rates well below the national average. Infant mortality rates? Highest in the South and Southwest; lowest in New England. Divorce rates? Marriages break up far more in red states than in blue. Teen pregnancy rates? The same.<BR><BR>Of course, the red/blue divide is only an imperfect proxy for levels of religiosity. And while Paul's study found that the correlation between high degrees of religiosity and high degrees of social dysfunction appears robust, it could be that high levels of social dysfunction fuel religiosity, rather than the other way around. <BR><BR>Although correlation is not causation, Paul's study offers much food for thought. At a minimum, his findings suggest that contrary to popular belief, lack of religiosity does societies no particular harm. This should offer ammunition to those who maintain that religious belief is a purely private matter and that government should remain neutral, not only among religions but also between religion and lack of religion. It should also give a boost to critics of faith-based social services and abstinence-only disease and pregnancy prevention programs.<BR><BR>We shouldn't shy away from the possibility that too much religiosity may be socially dangerous. Secular, rationalist approaches to problem-solving emphasize uncertainty, evidence and perpetual reevaluation. Religious faith is inherently nonrational. <BR><BR>This in itself does not make religion worthless or dangerous. All humans hold nonrational beliefs, and some of these may have both individual and societal value. But historically, societies run into trouble when powerful religions become imperial and absolutist.<BR><BR>The claim that religion can have a dark side should not be news. Does anyone doubt that Islamic extremism is linked to the recent rise in international terrorism? And since the history of Christianity is every bit as blood-drenched as the history of Islam, why should we doubt that extremist forms of modern American Christianity have their own pernicious and measurable effects on national health and well-being? <BR><BR>Arguably, Paul's study invites us to conclude that the most serious threat humanity faces today is religious extremism: nonrational, absolutist belief systems that refuse to tolerate difference and dissent. <BR><BR>My prediction is that right-wing evangelicals will do their best to discredit Paul's substantive findings. But when they fail, they'll just shrug: So what if highly religious societies have more murders and disease than less religious societies? Remember the trials of Job? God likes to test the faithful. <BR><BR>To the truly nonrational, even evidence that on its face undermines your beliefs can be twisted to support them. Absolutism means never having to say you're sorry. <BR><BR>And that, of course, is what makes it so very dangerous. <br /> <DIV></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="please note...the title line of the previous post were...." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-please-note-the-title-line-of-the-previous-post-were--22095.html">please note...the title line of the previous post were....</a><br /> sim's words, not mine. Refer to her/his post. <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="You are correct, I got one word of the title of his book incorrect," href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-You-are-correct-I-got-one-word-of-the-title-of-his-book-incorrect--27338.html">You are correct, I got one word of the title of his book incorrect,</a><br /> and for that I apologize. However, the information I quoted from the book is correct, "Frank" is a communist. But, the fact remains, I never called Obama a communist. If I knew he was, I would not hesitate to call him one. I do know he is a socialist, and I call him one.<br /> <br /> No need to ridicule and call others ignorant to make a point. It somewhat dulls any point you try to make. <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Don't think you read the same article, THAT IS THE TITLE...see the link I posted..." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Don-39t-think-you-read-the-same-article-THAT-IS-THE-TITLE-see-the-link-I-posted--42212.html">Don't think you read the same article, THAT IS THE TITLE...see the link I posted...</a><br /> <P> xx</P> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Did you notice the question mark at the end of the article's title?" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Did-you-notice-the-question-mark-at-the-end-of-the-article-39s-title--46765.html">Did you notice the question mark at the end of the article's title?</a><br /> Do you understand the meaning of "potential?" Imagine that. Judges have a "natural predisposition" toward complying with the DEMOCRATIC WILL OF THE PEOPLE. What a crazy and novel idea. <br /> <br /> The truth has been out there for quite a while now. There is no THERE there. This is sheer lunacy, but hey, knock yourselves out. Nobody's listening to this garbage and the entire nation has much more pressing issues to worry about, but to remind you of them here would be a complete waste of time, in view of this myopic obsessive fixation of a marginalized tiny fringe minority of the GOP (which has been recently denounced by other, more intelligent republicans). <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Provide a link to the document with that title. None of the official copies I've seen use the wor" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Provide-a-link-to-the-document-with-that-title-None-of-the-official-copies-I-39ve-seen-use-the-wor-57653.html">Provide a link to the document with that title. None of the official copies I've seen use the wor</a><br /> nm <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="She said SOME or did you miss that? nm" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-She-said-SOME-or-did-you-miss-that-nm-3828.html">She said SOME or did you miss that? nm</a><br /> <IMG src=http://www.forumatrix.com/smileys/tickedoff.gif> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Man!! I miss everything! nm" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Man-I-miss-everything-nm-6382.html">Man!! I miss everything! nm</a><br /> <IMG src=http://www.forumatrix.com/smileys/smoke.gif> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="What did I miss? nm" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-What-did-I-miss-nm-7482.html">What did I miss? nm</a><br /> 12 <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Ya, then none of us would have to miss" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Ya-then-none-of-us-would-have-to-miss-28752.html">Ya, then none of us would have to miss</a><br /> That would just suck. <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Did you miss something?" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Did-you-miss-something--35135.html">Did you miss something?</a><br /> Yea, some moron found a you tube clip and her religion was an issue over and over ad nauseum in the media, of which I'm sure you paid attention to. <br /> <br /> I have based my opinion on his background, not his color. He has a very very very questionable background, being brought up in Islamic faith. That's NOT a little thing. If you don't like the religious aspect of it, too bad. When Muslim belief says all who are not Muslim are to be killed, you better believe I pay attention. When I see one after another terrorist (even home grown) being his buddies, I'll pay attention and question why. <br /> <br /> Dense and ignorant will ignore anything Muslim, because most liberals don't care about God anyway, but his real beliefs and upbringing that has been proven over and over again are a big concern for me. <br /> <br /> You might open your eyes when or if he is in office and all those cabinet positions have to be filled and all you see are names you can't even pronounce, because they all have questionable citizenship to this country, questionable middle eastern relationships with those involved in terorrist organizations, etc.<br /> <br /> Then you can wonder where this country is really going and maybe you'll have bigger fish to fry then. <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="No, I did not miss that - " href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-No-I-did-not-miss-that--38768.html">No, I did not miss that - </a><br /> I addressed that part when I said that people who would not pay taxes already do not pay taxes!<br /> <br /> There are many, many people who never pay a penny into taxes and get $5000 to $6000 refunds every year for EIC. That is nothing new. <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="MAN what did I miss???" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-MAN-what-did-I-miss--44351.html">MAN what did I miss???</a><br /> :( <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="What'd I miss?" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-What-39d-I-miss--45180.html">What'd I miss?</a><br /> So I've been gone for a few days (almost a week I guess!)<br /> <br /> Any good bits I need to check out? Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving! I think my eyes are orange from all the pumpkin pie I ate!! <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="So do I (miss sam)" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-So-do-I-miss-sam--48518.html">So do I (miss sam)</a><br /> <P>I don't post very often anymore because of the same reasons. You're bashed constantly for your views. This is no longer a politics board as you said. </P><br /> <P>I'm at least willing to see what O does BUT, I caught a bit of his Phila. speech and he stated we need to change the Declaration of Independence. Huh? I hope I didn't hear that correctly. </P><br /> <P>I'm also sick of seeing all the garbage that's being pushed with his face on it, like he's some kind of God and how the whole world is going to tune into his inaugaration and celebrate. Saw where one woman in Kenya had a skirt on with his picture on it. It fit right over her butt. I got a kick out of that.</P> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Yes, I miss her also...................nm" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Yes-I-miss-her-also-nm-59646.html">Yes, I miss her also...................nm</a><br /> nm <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Try not to miss me too much...(sm)" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Try-not-to-miss-me-too-much-sm--63306.html">Try not to miss me too much...(sm)</a><br /> Gone on vacation.  Hope you all (even the ones that hate me...lol) have a good week    .  <IMG src=http://static.iminent.com/toolbar/contents/images/bigemos/Messages/YesWeCan/1.YesWeCan.gif> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="didn't miss anything...." href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-didnt-miss-anything--1001.html">didn't miss anything....</a><br /> but I want to know why we haven't heard more of cronie Rove?  I knew that would be shoved under the rug as they are wanting that scandal will go away.  That's why the "early" nomination of Roberts.  So see-through they stink! <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="I will miss Tim Russert. sm" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-I-will-miss-Tim-Russert-sm-25516.html">I will miss Tim Russert. sm</a><br /> , <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Yup, you still miss the point...oh well....nm" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Yup-you-still-miss-the-point-oh-well-nm-33642.html">Yup, you still miss the point...oh well....nm</a><br /> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Did I miss something important? AS is a pub gov" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Did-I-miss-something-important-AS-is-a-pub-gov-34051.html">Did I miss something important? AS is a pub gov</a><br /> He ran under the pub ticket and was elected by Californian pubs and other star-struck Californians. Do you disagree with the idea that repulicans come in different flavors or should I be translating you message from Christian right-wing fringe-speak to mean roughly "my way or the highway" on what it means to be a REAL republican? <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="did you miss the part where" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-did-you-miss-the-part-where-35336.html">did you miss the part where</a><br /> this lady had a B for Obama carved in her head by a black man (not that his race really matters, so lets not start calling me a racist). I doubt that it was Republical propaganda about Obama being a Muslim that caused such a thing and I find it offensive that everyone keeps talking about Palin's looks. Honestly, it's not as if she is really all that good looking, just better looking than Hillary. Might not be racism, but it is a bit of sexism. If this had been a black woman attacked by a McCain supporter, I still would not understand you stance, but at least it wouldn't be from out of nowhere. <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Did I miss anything good? " href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Did-I-miss-anything-good--35962.html">Did I miss anything good? </a><br /> <P>Okay, I have been gone for 2-1/2 days.  My son graduated from boot camp this morning and I was at Fort Jackson -<IMG src=http://forum.mtstars.com/smileys/heartpump.gif> LOVE OUR SOLDIERS!!!! <IMG src=http://forum.mtstars.com/smileys/heartpump.gif></P><br /> <P>Don't really have time to go through all those days - but if there is something good I missed, point me there please?</P> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Me too. I am not a democrat, but I think I miss" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Me-too-I-am-not-a-democrat-but-I-think-I-miss-36078.html">Me too. I am not a democrat, but I think I miss</a><br /> nm <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Did you miss this part? s/m" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Did-you-miss-this-part-s-m-37815.html">Did you miss this part? s/m</a><br /> <P>" She was fired early this year over personal expenses she had put on the group's credit card."</P><br /> <P>Nice try but no sale.</P> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title=" Are you kidding me...and miss all the fun? " href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics--Are-you-kidding-me-and-miss-all-the-fun--39510.html"> Are you kidding me...and miss all the fun? </a><br /> I could do this until the polls open if need by, but I think you can get the general drift: <br /> 1. “I’m the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can’t.’” –Sarah Palin, as quoted by former City Council Member Nick Carney, after he raised objections about the $50,000 she spent renovating the mayor’s office without approval of the city council.<br /> 2. SP: RNC Convention: “I told the Congress, ‘Thanks, but no thanks,’ on that Bridge to Nowhere.” who was for the Bridge to Nowhere before she was against it.<br /> 3. SP: RNC: “We grow good people in our small towns, with honesty and sincerity and dignity.” quoting the fascist right-wing columnist Westbrook Pegler, an avowed racist and anti-Semite who once expressed his hope that Robert F. Kennedy would be assassinated<br /> 4. SP: “Absolutely. Yup, yup.” after being asked by People magazine if she was ready to be a heartbeat away from the presidency<br /> 5. SP: July 2008: “As for that VP talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?” interview with CNBC’s “Kudlow & Co”<br /> 6. SP: "A Vice President has a really great job because not only are they there to support the President's agenda, they're like the team member--the team mate--to that president. But also, they're in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to, they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better..." Palin told Denver's KUSA-TV on Monday,<br /> 7. August 2008: SP: “A changing environment will affect <a class=word href=http://www.mtstars.com/medical_transcription/Alaska/>Alaska</a> more than any other state, because of our location. I’m not one though who would attribute it to being man-made.” dismissing global warming as influenced by human activity, Newsmax interview. <br /> 8. 09/09/2008: SP claimed that lending giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had "gotten too big and too expensive to the taxpayers." Operated as private companies, not taxpayer funded. Fundamental ignorance of a key issue that will face the next administration.<br /> 9. 09/11/2008: SP: “They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.” –Sarah Palin, on her foreign policy insights into Russia, ABC News interview, <br /> 10. 09/11/2008: SP: “Perhaps so.” when asked if we may need to go to war with Russia because of the <a class=word href=http://www.mtstars.com/medical_transcription/Georgia/>Georgia</a> crisis, ABC News interview. <br /> 11. 09/11/2008: “I have not, and I think if you go back in history and if you ask that question of many vice presidents, they may have the same answer that I just gave you.” after being asked if she had never met a foreign head of state, despite the fact that every vice president in the last 32 years had met a foreign head of state prior to taking office, ABC News interview<br /> 12. 09/11/2008: “In what respect, Charlie?” after being asked if she agreed with the Bush Doctrine, ABC News interview<br /> 13. 09/11/2008: SP: “Let me speak specifically about a credential that I do bring to this table, Charlie, and that’s with the energy independence that I’ve been working on for these years as the governor of this state that produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy.” –Sarah Palin, misstating the actual amount of energy produced by Alaska, which is only 3.5 percent,<br /> 14. 09/11/2008: “You’ll be there to defend the innocents from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the deaths of thousands of Americans.” linking the Iraq war the 9/11 attacks while addressing U.S. soldiers shipping off to Iraq, Fairbanks, Alaska. Gee. And all this time we thought it was those WMDs. <br /> 15. 09/17/2008: SP: “Oil and coal? Of course, it’s a fungible commodity and they don’t flag, you know, the molecules, where it’s going and where it’s not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first. So, I believe that what Congress is going to do, also, is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it’s Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It’s got to flow into our domestic markets first.” SP...billed by John McCain as the nation’s foremost expert on energy, clumsily answering a question while speaking off the cuff at a town hall meeting, Grand Rapids, Michigan.<br /> 16. 09/24/2008: “I’ll try to find you some and I’ll bring them to you.” When asked by Katie Couric to cite specific examples of how John McCain has pushed for more regulation in his 26 years. <br /> 17. 09/24/2008: "our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They’re in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia … We have trade missions back and forth. We– we do– it’s very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? It’s Alaska. It’s just right over the border. It is– from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to– to our state.”when asked by Katie Couric how Alaska’s proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy experience.<br /> <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Did you miss his credentials? sm" href="https://www.mtstars.com/politics-Did-you-miss-his-credentials-sm-52412.html">Did you miss his credentials? sm</a><br /> Schmitt, who grew up in Silver City and now lives in Albuquerque, has a science degree from the <a class=word href=http://www.mtstars.com/medical_transcription/California/>California</a> Institute of Technology. He also studied geology at the University of Oslo in Norway and took a doctorate in geology from Harvard University in 1964. <br /> <br /> I think a doctorate in geology does suffice. <hr width=100%> <a class="ntl" title="Did you miss the point? 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