You mean owning up?.....like Nixon?
Posted By: Gadfly on 2006-12-11
In Reply to: Democrats vs Republicans... - Observer
Let's see your statistics. I'm assuming you've done a lot of research to support these claims.
As stated below, my guess is the wrong-doers are about 50 percent Republican and 50 percent Democrat. The only thing I can see that is particularly ironic or shameful is that the Republican party generallly portrays itself as the superiorly moral, family-oriented party.
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And owning a gun wouldn't have help either one of them.
That's the point.
We're not holding our breath. Owning up
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Government now owning/running U.S. car companies?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/15/obama-car-czar-oversee-auto-industry/
WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama plans to appoint senior administration officials -- rather than a single "car czar," as had been discussed -- to oversee a restructuring of the auto industry.
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and National Economic Council Director Lawrence Summers will oversee the across-the-government panel, a senior administration official said Sunday on the condition of anonymity because no announcement had been made.
"The president understands the importance of this issue and also understands that the auto industry affects and is affected by a broad range of economic policies," the official said.
As the teams move forward, Obama "wants to make sure that we're getting the expertise and input of agencies across the government," the official said.
Obama and his aides face difficult choices on the fate of the U.S. auto industry, weighing the cost of pouring billions more into struggling companies against possible bankruptcies that could undermine plans to jump-start the economy.
General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC are racing against a Tuesday deadline to submit plans to the government. The plans are to be followed by weeks of intense negotiations ahead of a March 31 deadline for the final versions of the reports.
GM and Chrysler are living off a combined $13.4 billion in government loans. If they don't receive concessions by March 31, they face the prospect of having the loans pulled, followed by bankruptcy proceedings.
Any bankruptcy would be particularly painful, with some economists predicting the country could lose 2 million to 3 million jobs this year and the unemployment rate, now 7.6 percent, could swell past 9 percent by the spring of 2010.
In television interviews Sunday, White House senior adviser David Axelrod didn't respond directly when asked if the U.S. economy could withstand a GM bankruptcy. Nor did he directly address a question about whether the Obama administration would let GM go into bankruptcy.
"I'm not going to prejudge anything. I think that there is going to have to be a restructuring of those companies. I'm not going to get into the mode of how that happens. We'll wait and see what they have to say on Tuesday," he told "FOX News Sunday."
Executives at the two automakers have said bankruptcy is not an option because consumers would not buy cars from a company that might go out of business.
"How that restructuring comes is something that has to be determined," Axelrod said. "But it's going to be something that's going to require sacrifice not just from the auto workers but also from creditors, from shareholders and the executives who run the company. And everyone's going to have to get together here to build companies that can compete in the future."
Enter the President's Task Force on Autos. That group will use officials from the departments of Treasury, Labor, Transportation, Commerce and Energy. Members of the National Economic Council, the White House Office of Energy and Environment, the Council of Economic Advisers and the Environmental Protection Agency will also be involved, according to the administration official.
Obama also plans to name restructuring expert Ron Bloom a senior adviser to Geithner. He will not be the "car czar" pointman many labor and business leaders expected. Bloom, a former consultant to the United Steelworkers of America, will be doing much of the financial analysis for the administration.
Geithner is expected to be the only Cabinet secretary to be part of the panel, the senior administration official said. Deputy secretaries, however, would be involved.
Obama "felt it was important to have the treasury secretary as his official designee to oversee these loans," the senior administration official said.
GM spokesman Greg Martin said the company welcomed the task force.
"We expect to meet soon with this team to share GM's detailed restructuring plan to restore our company to viability and to meet the requirements of its loan agreements," he said.
The terms of the federal loans set "targets" for concessions, largely from debt-holders and the United Auto Workers union, but concession talks have made little progress with just a couple days left before the initial deadline.
Negotiations between GM and the UAW broke off Friday night but resumed Sunday, still focusing on exchanging the company's cash payments into a union-run retiree health care trust for GM stock, according to a person briefed on the talks who didn't want to be identified because the bargaining is private.
GM and UAW officials declined comment.
GM and Chrysler don't need to have everything nailed down for Tuesday's progress reports, but the companies are expected to detail concessions along with plant closures, the potential elimination of brands and thousands of job cuts.
Axelrod wouldn't say whether the administration would offer the auto industry more bailout money. GM already has borrowed $9.4 billion to stay in business, and it would receive an addition $4 billion if the Treasury Department approves its viability plan. Chrysler wants $3 billion more on top of the $4 billion it has already borrowed.
"We need to see what it is that they come up with this week," Axelrod said.
And people who had no business owning a home jumped in; not
with a gun at their head, but because of the attitude of I want what I want when I want it. I refuse to pay for LOSERS who can't manage money. Reward the irresponsible (the O way) and neglect those of us who have done the right thing, have savings in the bank, live debt free, pay our mortgage on time and live within our means. The American Way, everyone else is responsible for YOUR behavior and poor choices.
It was Nixon
That speaks for itself.
what does nixon have to do with this?
There is no going there...you're gone. lol.
Yeah, Nixon is gone but, (sm)
I found a lot of the tapes rather interesting. He used extremely foul language consistently, was paranoid as I don't know what all (in particular with the press), and actually notes at one point that pushing republicans father to the right and dividing the country would benefit the republican party for elections. I think you can learn a lot by going back and reviewing this stuff.
As far as Bush goes, he's still up for a good bashing every now and then. He may be a lame duck, but he's still passing legislation, which can hopefully be reversed. He has also put together a team (including Rove) to come up with a strategy for how he will be *presented* as a past president. These are government employees on this committee, so guess who's paying for Bush's new reputation?
How about those Nixon tapes...LOL
The other day on one of the news channels (can't remember which one) they were reviewing some of the new Nixon tapes released. Yeah, he was completely nuts -- literally. Someone on the show actually said that they couldn't understand how someone that crazy actually made it to become president. My first thought was *and how did Bush get there?* ROFL. I can't wait for all the Bush crap to start coming out. From what I understand now he's trying to rewrite history. In one exit interview he actually said if it weren't for bad intelligence (referring to WMDs) he would have never gone into Iraq. And that completely contradicts earlier interviews where he said he would have gone in anyway. What a dork.
Yes, dear, Mr. Nixon did own up AND RESIGNED....
All I posted was the truth about the two accusations you made regarding Bush and Reagan...not at ALL the same thing as the handsy Mr. Clinton. I already did the statistics on that and blew your comparison out of the water. I stated in a response to Lurker that there are bad folks on both sides, of course. You mentioned one, Nixon...who DID own up when he got caught and RESIGNED because it was best for the country. Did not see Mr. Clinton resigning after it was proven he committed a felony while a sitting President. That is what I am talking about. No accountability. And his party supported him and spun it that he was only lying about sex so somehow that excused committing a felony. I rest my case. Congressman Jefferson is still serving and was even considered by the sitting speaker of the house for a committee head appointment. Teddy Kennedy is still serving. That is what I am saying...both sides have done wrong, of course, but I only see accountability on one side. Clinton is a morally bankrupt individual which has nothing to do with his politics...but his politics enabled him. Republicans are more likely to call a wrong a wrong and hold their own members accountable, which the Democratic party does not seem to be willing to do. That should be obvious to anyone who has been paying attention to politics over the years.
Oh, I remember the Nixon administration
I think our woes go way farther back than just Bush. The politicians seem to just get worse and worse with each administration. I think in order to fix our government we might all do well to look back at previous administrations and evalulate their performance. I don't remember the Great Depression but I do remember that my parents and people I knew from their generation swore FDR saved the country.
Yeah!! Tin Soldiers and Nixon coming...
Got to get down to it - get rid of the current regime!!!!
Nixon = Carter; Bush = Obama
It looks as though both of these democrats were handed a huge bag of flaming s*it that they were/are expected to clean up in a nanosecond. No, I'm not a democrat, either. But I am fed up with the label "liberal" being used like an expletive. Liberal means "free thinking," and I am honored to be a liberal. I don't need to walk in lockstep so others can do my thinking for me. I want our country to prosper and survive and I'm placing my trust in Obama's hands. I pray he succeeds.
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