You mean ACORN is a grass roots movement? You mean
Posted By: criminal leadership? on 2009-04-15
In Reply to: We showed plenty of patriotism..(sm) - Just the big bad
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They are also a viable grass roots political force
in the region, just like Hezbollah. How successful was Israel in trying to eradicate Hezbollah by bombing them off the face of the earth just 2 short years ago in Lebanon? The harder they try to suppress with violence, starvation, dehumanization, occupation and genocidal wars, the stronger those movements become. Israel is the consummate poster child for Einstein's definition of insanity.
Until the US and Israel have the guts to come to terms with the root causes of WHY these Islamic movements are gaining such traction across the board in the region, we are doomed to stay mired in the same atrocious tit-for-tat cycles of wholesale slaughter and human suffering. There seems to be an endless supply of that on both sides of the fence. The question is why and what can e do to effect a different outcome? Here's a clue for you. End the occupation.
the grass is always greener....
Too many Americans think those predominantly white countries have it better. Amsterdam has a large squalid violent section, as all modern cities seem to have.
And they are abusing the system. Example:
Ever younger women are completely leaving their inflexible working lives due to depression. These days more and more women are being registered for disability pensions, some even under 30 years of age.
http://www.helsinkitimes.fi/htimes/domestic-news/general/6054-ever-younger-women-end-up-as-disability-pensioners.html
I could go on and on about the social, political, and economic ills of those glorious socialist-styled countries, some with taxes as high as 70%. I hope those Americans who support and endorse this style of politics and economics are going to be happy b/c the US is almost there.
You know why the disability pension rates are drastically rising - why work one's butt off for peanuts when the guvmint will provide the same amount of peanuts for doing nothing.
Switch fascist movement with
conservative movement and you have a winner for your very obtuse definition! All except the organic part. We liberals like to know where our food comes from whereas the conservatives don't really care as long as it's cheap and exploits poor farmers.
Nope, but that's where the movement to bring it
It USED to be a private decision. And even if you wackos manage to get Roe v Wade overturned, it will STILL be a private decision & procedure, and women and teenagers will still continue to obtain abortions, regardless of how much it is legislated against. The only difference will be in the safety of the procedure.
Clean hospital OR, or dimly-lit back-alley? I've had friends nearly die from the former. I choose the latter.
Cindy re-energized the anti war movement
Well, guess we are looking at different news papers and news programs cause from what I have seen and read, most of the country is behind Cindy 100%. In fact, it was her camping out in Tx that re-energized the anti war movement. If she was a quack or clown which is what Rove called her (takes a clown to know a clown), she could not have possibly started the ending of the Iraq war..which is what she did, you know. If you dont agree, I would suggest you study the ending of the Vietnam War. Nixon refused at first but the roar of the majority got too loud. As far as sacrificing a son. She probably feels guilt cause she feels that way as any mother wants to protect her children and not send them into harms way. So, if she had known he would die, she probably would have fought every which way to try to keep him out of the military. In her mind the guilt trip is she sacrificed her son..she should have *protected* him. I think that is what she feels. Me? I think when a child turns 18, they need to be on their own and make their own decisions..So, to me it would be the sons decision.
Well at least the blame agenda is still alive in the liberal movement. sm
Nice to see some things never change.
Anti-choice movement gets duped in a Blogger Baby Hoax
The unmarried mother's story about giving birth to a child diagnosed as terminally ill in the womb hit a major nerve on the Internet.
Every night for the last two months, thousands of abortion opponents across the nation logged on to a blog run by the suburban Chicago woman who identified herself only as "B" or "April's Mom."
People said they prayed that God would save her pregnancy. They e-mailed her photos of their children dressed in pink, bought campaign T-shirts, shared tales of personal heartache and redemption, and sent letters and gifts to an Oak Lawn P.O. box in support.
As more and more people were drawn to her compelling tale, eager advertisers were lining up. And established parenting Web sites that oppose abortion were promoting her blog -- which included biblical quotes, anti-abortion messages and a soundtrack of inspirational Christian pop songs.
By Sunday night, when "April's Mom" claimed to have given birth to her "miracle baby" -- blogging that April Rose had survived a home birth only to die hours later -- her Web site had nearly a million hits.
There was only one problem with the unfolding tragedy: None of it was true.
Not the pregnancy, and not the photos posted on the blog of the supposed mother and Baby April Rose, swaddled in white blankets. The baby was actually a lifelike doll, which immediately raised the suspicion of loyal blog-followers.
"I have that exact doll in my house," said Elizabeth Russell, a dollmaker from Buffalo who had been following the blog. "As soon as I saw that picture, I knew it was a scam."
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She had expected only a handful of friends to read it, but when her first post got 50 comments, she was hooked.
"I've always liked writing. It was addictive to find out I had a voice that people wanted to hear," Beushausen said.
"Soon I was getting 100,000 hits a week, and it just got out of hand," she said. "I didn't know how to stop. ... One lie led to another."
So the lie isn't the problem, but the fact that she got addicted to blogging made her continue on. What a sad and disgusting tale. Using a phony story to whip up the anti-choice movement is pretty vile. A woman has the right to choose in this country, but the religious right will do anything it can to try and take that right away. You never hear them talk about the mother in any of their debates. It's like the woman is only a "vessel" to carry a child and doesn't exist in any other manner. "Bring the vessel here." "How dare the vessel speak out."
ACORN
I heard on the news that ACORN also received some money in the bailout package, put in by democrats!! Guess who was involved with ACORN...
ACORN
Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now....... the nation's largest community organization of low and moderate income families working ...
Don't be fooled by the last part about working. While they have done some good for some people, they are mostly about getting votes. They have had many of their people indicted for voter fraud. THey are up again for investigation for this very same thing. Obama has thrown over $800,000 to them to help hire more people to get on the streets and coerce folks into registering to vote, even if they are already registered.
They have been found to fradulently doctor papers to appear as a registered voter, including deceased, homeless, even nonexistent names and addresses.
Acorn
HA, the truth comes out! Sen Obama's very small relationship to Acorn was in 1982 when he was involved with a group called project vote. Acorn was also loosely involved in that. However, Sen John McCain was involved with them, Acorn, just two years ago and had much praise for the group. And interestingly enough, the ONLY people that are trying to tie Obama to the group is the McCain campaign. Kind of funny how McCain works. Palin and McCain's wife complain that Obama voted not to fund the troops and yet McCain, two months after Obama turned it down (and ONLY because there was no time table written in) McCain also turns it down, because they wrote in a time table. How does his wife feel about that? They both voted NO on the same issue. McCain is sickening.
ACORN is very serious
I'm in Ohio and we're smack dab in the middle of it. I don't care who's involved with it, someone needs to do something and all Jennifer Brunner is doing is tying up the courts with her stupid appeals. Something needs to be done because if not, whoever wins the election, the other side will be able to challenge because of all the fraudulent votes cast - then we'll go through the 2000 election 100x worse!
oh-h acorn
various community organizations who hired people to sign up new voters. How s-c-a-r-y is that???
oh yea, acorn
have you seen their building. It's some funeral home or something in Louisiana that's supposed to house over 250 businesses....shaaaaa! Glen Beck's been covering it.
Regarding ACORN...
I heard this morning that ACORN may be supplying empolyees to the Census Department to conduct the census next year - anyone else hear this? Just curious because I'm just not sure how they would get away with that, seeing as though they are under investigation in nine states.
I am sure that ACORN was
probably started with the best of intentions, but there are just too many issues that have come up with them that makes me think they are a corrupt organization.
I guess they said that ACORN as well as other organizations like the NAACP were to get 1.4 million volunteers for the 2010 census. I need to do some more research on this to see actually how much they will be involved in the actual census. There involvement in any of it....I personally feel is wrong but I guess we will just have to wait and see how this plays out.
With the help of ACORN he got 59% -
ACORN
Any ideas of why ACORN changed their name to Community Organizers International?
Obama and ACORN...
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/05/obamas-acorn/
That would have been 30 billion to ACORN of the...sm
return on the investments. That and other returns going to special interests.
Think about it. This is an investment. NOT a bailout. They need to get rid of that word.
If the dems wanted to write in 30 billion dollars to the ACORN from future profits....and others....they know this is an investment.
They need to tell the public this.
These profits need to be returned to the taxpayer, and to Social Security and pay down the national debt.
Not more special interests.
That's a big holdup of all the add ons that the dems put on, that need to be changed for the good of the people.
They need to get back closer to three pages....instead of 103 pages of earmarks for special interests.
More on the Acorn mess....
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/26/the-democratic-acorn-bailout/
Yes, and how about the bailout, ACORN, and
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Ask ACORN. They are the ones who submitted...
a voter registration in that name.
Another ACORN raid...
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/07/acorn-vegas-office-raided-voter-fraud-investigation/
Where the Democrats in congress wanted a percentage of the bailout payback to go.
About time they stop letting ACORN register voters...ya think??
This is ACORN in a nutshell.....
This is a group that wants more and more people to be dependent on them. The more you depend on them, the less you do for yourself, the more dependent you become on the government.....it's like a snowball effect, and they know exactly what they are doing. LET US THINK FOR YOU should be their motto!!!
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5365
They are investigating ACORN.
except in the right-wing fringer's manifesto. People who chant this mantra cannot be taken seriously. Goudpainter is one of the few honest and sensible posters on this board. In the United States of America, we are allowed to have doubts and change our minds. She has not come out in support of Obama and is having an issue with her write-in that may or may not resolve itself in the next 19 days. The lying hypocrite slur is unfounded, uncalled for and just goes to show us all how losing an election is making some people "lose it."
This is where I blame ACORN
I think registered voters should have to prove their knowledge on the matters at hand prior to voting. Just a 5 or 10-question test to make sure they know their candidate's policies.
Do we really want our "welfare" society to determine our next President? That's what ACORN is making sure will happen.
acorn - bertha
Saw on TV last night an ACORN ad with "Bertha" and she sure didn't sound bipartisan to me. hmmmmm..
The money would only go to ACORN
on the Community Block Grants for revitalization of low-income neighborhoods and Community Service Grants to provide social services to the residents. There are other organizations that also provide these services who would be involved in the bidding. It is part of the nonprofit stimulus fund of the package. Non-profit organizations that provide social support and services are seeing increasing demands for assistance in the current economic crisis.
Can you say ACORN? talk about
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How about te big thank-you chunk for ACORN?
That been taken out too?
What?! We should be protesting ACORN
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Acorn is over in Iran too?
LMAO.
Then ACORN should start by getting rid of
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That may be included as well...but the ACORN thing...
is something that Dodd wanted attached which has nothing to do with the average Joe...and as I said, ACORN is being sued in multiple states and is under investigation in detroit right now for voter fraud. NONE of ANY federal funds should be going to that group. Period. In my opinion. And CERTAINLY not part of a financial bailout.
ACORN is definitely an economic issue.....
When thousands of fraudulent voters are going to the polls being counted as a vote, even though they do not truly exist in the first place, and Obama gets elected due to voter fraud, which he himself has paid to help enforce, how do you not see that as affecting our economy?
The majority of those dumb enough to help with the fraud are sadly enough easily led individuals who can't think for themselves and just do what they are told. They help to put a man in office who is going to tax them even more and they don't have the sense to know it! You don't think that affects your economy?
By the way, I am Independent.. McCain does't rock my boat either but Obama makes me want to puke!
Just saw a lady on tv admitting to be with ACORN
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I know my ignorance is showing, but what is ACORN? nm
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ACORN is a community organization
since its inception. It is the latest weapon the pubs have in their arsenal of smear tactics. They are using this yet to be concluded investigation as a way to imply that Obama is actively trying to throw the election. Voter fraud is something the pubs know a thing or two about. They wrote the book, so at least this most recent tactic is coming from a place of intimate familiarity for them. What is puzzling is just how they can make voter fraud charges stick BEFORE the ballots are cast. By the way, there is a whole lot more to the subject of voter fraud than the ACORN saga. it has to do with te long-needed overhaul of election protocl that pubs have historically bristled at every time it surfaces in political rhetoric, but they do not hesitate to try to use it to try to resurrect an anemic campaign strategy. They are desperately trying to place AL their eggs in this basket to try to overturn O's momentum in the polls and on the electoral map, but time is running out and so far, those Hail Mary's haven't been scoring too many points for the Straight Talk Express.
ACORN has already admitted to fraud.
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LOL. I am in Ohio. ACORN is blatantly asking
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Haven't posted anything on ACORN until
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Did ya'll hear that ACORN
registered Mickey Mouse? The registration was thrown out obviously but they actually turned it in. I saw it on TV this morning. If this wasn't so serious, I might have actually chuckled at this but this is horrible. I hope they hold some of these quacks accountable.
Well, for ACORN it is about race....the more blacks
The blacks that have been truthful have spoken out and said that the corrupt group ACORN has PUSHED them to vote for Obama, telling them how much better their lives would be, etc., etc., and they will get a big 'ole check every month, courtesy of the hard working folks. And all they gotta do is sign on the dotted line. These are black people speaking out because they know something is very wrong with this picture.
Too bad the O lovers don't see anything wrong with this picture.
Obama says he was ONLY an attorney for ACORN
He conveniently forgot to state the fact that he gave ACORN 800,000 dollars to ACORN.
Like Ayers and Wright and ACORN?
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FBI is investigating Bama's ACORN
Of course you don't take the serious issues seriously.
The only thing you take seriously is propaganda from Obama, 'cause it's easier to let someone else do the thinking for you.
You've proven yourself to be a lying hypocrite. (I'm independent. I'm voting for Lou dobbs. I'm not for Obama.)
Pathetic.
ACORN gets bashed because they are a FRAUD!
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Yes, O and his friends ACORN are a fraud, but at
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I don't called being shipped by ACORN to
vote and told who to vote for (Obama) exactly intelligent...do you? Just the opposite..no intelligence, which is why Obama's going after all he can get from that crowd. Easily led and he knows it.
ACORN Protests around the country
They're telling people whose homes are up for foreclosure to stay in their homes even if they are taken off to jail.
A spokesperson for the group believes that everyone should get new mortgages, even those that are in homes that they can't afford. (I've been trying to find that article.)
http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/2749/t/3071/signUp.jsp?key=2134
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/10/AR2009021001271.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/18/nyregion/18foreclose.html?_r=2&ref=nyregion
Yeah, and no ACORN buses either/nm
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