You just made my point.....shouldn't they be protected
Posted By: since they can't protect themselves!!? nm on 2009-03-06
In Reply to: This is really strange! Since when does - Jan
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Yes! You made my point exactly
They just keep shipping the jobs out until eventually we'll be left with millions of doctors and lawyers!! And who wants that?! :)
Seriously, something has to be done about this. Unfortunately, quite a few politians are paid by these big companies that make profits by off-shoring. We have to start putting major pressure on them to stop.
You just made my point..........
Narrow minded people always assume, as the Obama supporters have, if you ain't for their guy, you must be for McCain. I couldn't stand either one of them. The populace, to include illegals, all ran to Obama and for what? Because they think the government is supposed to take care of them.
When I see people on this board griping and whining about one or the other parties, it amazes me why they gripe at all. They obviously don't care about this country at all, just themselves. I doubt most of them even bother to research anything for themselves. They let their TV screen do all their thinking for them, as now Obama will do for them.
You have just proved the point I made below
While I don't agree with your opinion 100 percent at least you can talk to us without making anything we say personal, A.W. and Carla cannot.
I'll agree that some had a visceral hatred of Clinton. I never did personally. I didn't vote for him, did not think he was a good president, but I didn't walk around everyday blaming everything bad in my life on him either. I disliked by his personal example that he lowered the morality level in our country several notches, and yes, I do think that he should have been thrown out of office for #1) having sexual favors performed just outside the oval office by someone other than his wife, and #2) then looking in the face of every American and lying about it (#2 being the damning impeachable offense).
At this point I haven't seen proof that Bush has done anything impeachable. I think Bush has done some good things while in office and has also done some things I don't agree with. However, if I support the president in any way then I'm accused of bowing down and worshipping at his feet by A.W. and Carla, and let's not forget the late-to-this-board gt. Their reactions are way beyond the rational although it is understandable why Carla may have these strong feelings given what she's gone through this year. I think she may be misdirecting some of her anger though.
You have made your point, move on.nm
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Glenn could not have made his point
better! MSNBC picked up on the show so quickly, along with all the regular critics, they really spread his message for him. They are such a great advertising firm for him and Bill-O! Thanks for posting it on here!
Yep, MSNBC made a point of going over that
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I respectfully disagree on one point you made:
*...most of us on the liberal board do not buy *impending doom* theory that you live by.*
I personally will be fearful of *impending doom* for the next 3 years. If I/we can get through that, then I'll be able to relax (a little) as hopefully more Americans will come to their senses.
Starcat made a very valid point.
You don't tolerate irresponsibility when it comes to pet owners (which I agree with, by the way), yet you seem to welcome it when it comes to your political party. One has to ask why you continue to sing the praises of and support the most irresponsible administration in US history, yet you express outrage about a cat owner. Just doesn't make sense.
And as far as you being tolerant, one only needs to take a quick look at the conservative board to see how laughable that really is. You and your cohorts post the most intolerant posts I've ever seen anywhere on the internet.
I do agree with you about pet owners being responsible. I am a pet owner and keep my pets under control simply because I love them and want to keep them safe.
See? You're proving the very point made about
right wing rage. Sure hope you and your fanatic friends don't all own guns......
Good post. I think you made your point!
Go McCain/Palin 2008
Good, I made my point, but I won't move on.
 Too bad for you.
I thought Brunson made a good point down below.
One of the reasons the antiwar protesters have not been taken more seriously is that they have personalized this against Bush and not against war. I do think it is possible to separate the two. But I also think that protesting in the streets puts our military at risk, in fact I know that it does. The pen is a mighty weapon. Senators and congressmen and women want to be reelected. Sitting in front of the WH with a bullhorn and shouting obscenities and name calling to the President of the United States is not going to ever work. And it shows a distinct lack of respect, if not for the man, then for the office and the White House itself.
No, Duck, not made up, and you fail to miss my point...
I think the dems are missing a LOT of points with Obama's plans for us...
I made my point. Reading comprension problem?
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Again my point is made - you just like arguing and bashing people that don't agree with you
Your bringing up a dead subject while shouting it at us. You started an abortion post on 8/25 and bashed everyone who didn't agree with you, and you were bashing people on 8/22 about the same subject. Everytime someone brought up their viewpoint you be arguing or bashing them. The point I (and others) are making is you keep bringing this up again and again and again and again and when people don't agree with you you bash them, then when they come back to say something you bash them even more. Then when we finally get a break and have new topics, you start another post about the abortion thing again. The abortion issue is getting tiring for all. We know what abortions are, how horrible they are, and we know how babies are made and the stages of their lives (we are MT's and all took the course) but you feel the need to keep it up and up and up and it's getting real old. Besides that it looks like you are posting under other names and then answering yourself.
I want to read people's opinions and questions of issues we are facing. Abortion is not one of them for most of us. Let it go and move on. What I am trying to say is that while I'd like to hear your viewpoints on other issues enough with the abortion and try and not be so argumentative all the time.
Yes, we all have the right to post things, but it looks like you are posting just for the sake of arguing and we're all getting tired of it.
So go ahead bash me some more.
oops - meant why are we NOT being protected...
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IED threat was known before war but troops not protected
I'm so glad that Joe Biden is in the White House now, considering he was one of only two who spoke up about this. Our troops deserve an administration that respects and cares about them and will do its best to protect them.
Report: IED threat known before war |
By Peter Eisler, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON —— Military leaders knew the dangers posed by roadside bombs before the start of the Iraq war but did little to develop vehicles that were known to better protect forces from what proved to be the conflict's deadliest weapon, a report by the Pentagon inspector general says.
The Pentagon "was aware of the threat posed by mines and improvised explosive devices (IEDs) …… and of the availability of mine resistant vehicles years before insurgent actions began in Iraq in 2003," says the 72-page report, which was reviewed by USA TODAY.
The report is to be made public today.
Marine Corps leaders "stopped processing" an urgent request in February 2005 for Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles from combat commanders in Iraq's Anbar province after declaring that a more heavily armored version of existing Humvee vehicles was the "best available" option for protecting troops, the report says.
Marine officials "did not develop a course of action for the (request), attempt to obtain funding for it or present it to the Marine Corps Requirements Oversight Council for a decision on acquiring" MRAPs, the report says.
The military continued relying mainly on Humvees until May 2007, when then-incoming Defense secretary Robert Gates called procurement of the MRAPs his top priority. Since then, the Pentagon has spent more than $22 billion to buy more than 15,000 of the vehicles.
When field commanders first began requesting MRAPs, military officials saw the armored Humvees as a more immediate option to countering IEDs, Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said. "The threat has evolved and our force protection measures have evolved with it," he said.
The Marines requested the inspector general's investigation in February after an internal report accused the Corps of "gross mismanagement" of the urgent request for MRAPs. Hundreds of Marines died unnecessarily because of delays in fielding the vehicles, said the Jan. 22 study by Franz Gayl, a retired Marine officer and civilian science adviser.
Two U.S. senators —— Democrat Joe Biden of Delaware, now the vice president-elect, and Republican Kit Bond of Missouri —— demanded an investigation after details of Gayl's study were published.
"The Pentagon was aware of the threat IEDs posed to our troops prior to our intervention in Iraq and still failed to take the steps to acquire the technology needed to reduce the risk," Bond said after reviewing the report. "Some bureaucrats at the Pentagon have much to explain."
USA TODAY detailed the Pentagon's failure to move quickly on MRAP development in a series of stories last year. Gates credited one of those stories with sparking his interest in the vehicles.
Marine commanders in Iraq's then-volatile Anbar province sought 1,169 MRAPs in the February 2005 urgent request. "There is an immediate need for an MRAP vehicle capability to increase survivability and mobility of Marines operating in a hazardous fire area," it said.
The inspector general's report says that Marine officials advised Marine Corps commandant Michael Hagee at the time that armored Humvees were the "best available, most survivable" vehicles to meet the request.
MRAPs are far more resistant to IEDs and landmines than armored Humvees because they're higher off the ground and rest on a V-shaped hull, which deflects blasts from the vehicle's underside.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2008-12-08-mrap_N.htm
I'd rather see a woman's rights protected
than an fetus' any day. So you think I should trust McCain/Palin - that's a joke!
Speaking of whales...Palin does not want them protected either!
Alaska's Gov. Sarah Palin has questioned scientific evidence that the beluga whale population in the waters near Anchorage is declining. In fact last summer she urged the federal government not to list the whale as endangered, citing concerns of what a listing might do to the Cook Inlet economy.
But today the U.S. Government replied with a decisive counter, declaring the beluga whales in Alaska's Cook Inlet an endangered species. The findings by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration trigger a rigorous regimen to protect the whales, dwindled to an estimated 375 from their 1995 high of 653.
You shouldn't take it there...
We shouldn't sit through any but nothing you said...sm
offers up a reason why we invaded Iraq. I expect the usual Sadaam was evil, brutal, murderous, and his sons ... (and all of it is true). So it is a good thing that out of this all we've taken them out, now what is holding us there. Let's face it, these folks are going to have to fight it out one day. The strongest will win, whether we leave today or ten years from now. Right now they have a PM who is a prior islamic extremist (see Lurker's post titled Disturbing) - we should not support that. Can you not see history repeating itself? Did our current leaders not shake hands with Saddaam? Did we not train up bin Laden? The way we are going about things in this war is not going to leave us any safer - if anything less so - the region is now even more incensed with hate than it was under Sadaam's thumb. I think our best chance at survival (though when our time is up, it's up) is protecting our homeland. Of course we need to keep our hands and ears in the Middle East, and definitely retaliate against any attacks on our soil or Embassies. It's the preemptive idea that I can't get down with.
We should never ever sit through a 9/11. If
Sadaam was responsible then by all means go after him and anyone willing to fight for him. What we are doing in Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11. In my mind, they are two issues until it can be proven that Saddam had a hand in the Twin Tower attack.
I was young during the Clinton Admin, so I didn't keep up with foreign affairs as much as I do now and I still do not indulge in them a great deal. But now as I look back I think he did a poor job in retaliating against anti-American attacks.
You shouldn't believe it because it just isn't so.
Believe me, Europeans would absolutely laugh at this.
I know....shouldn't even go there with her...
but it was, as you said...mildy entertaining. lol.
Why shouldn't it go on?
The debate will only take a couple of hours. Nothing is going to get resolved that quickly anyway.
I think what we shouldn't do is just
sit here and watch it go down. That simply isn't fair to the millions of families dependent on the industry and in the long run EVERYBODY suffers from it. I think we need to make them not only make more fuel efficient cars but also more affordable ones. Kill all the tax cuts for imports so we can compete in the market and start working on alternative fuels. I don't think anyone has a complete answer for all this yet, I know I don't, but to just sit here and let it happen is asking for even more disaster.
It shouldn't have to, but . . .
people in general suck and are selfish and have no desire to contribute to their communities, and these are almost always the same people that whine and moan about how they don't want governemnt involved.
It shouldn't have to, but . . .
people in general suck and are selfish and have no desire to contribute to their communities, yet these are almost always the same people that whine and moan about how they don't want government involved.
You shouldn't a-s-s-u-m-e
that because I am not in love with Obama that it means I supported Bush. I for one did not care for Bush at all! I found myself preferring to rub my ears with sandpaper then to listen to his speeches...kinda like I do now, but with Obama!
Then you shouldn't
call yourself a Christian because a Christian finds homosexuality to be sinful and immoral. Me and you worship different Gods, obviously. Mine says homosexuality is an abomination. Love has nothing to do with sodomy.
No I shouldn't have. I was describing me, not you. SM
Yes, but the government shouldn't be
encouraging companies to outsource either. Our country has way messed up priorities when the only people making big bucks are entertainers and greedy CEOs. Meanwhile, we've got unemployed people and poverty. Hey, let's send our money, our technology and our private data to a country that HATES us.
So it shouldn't be allowed
because everyone might suddenly become gay and there would be no offspring? How about artificial insemination? This is a new one on me!
Shouldn't your pen name be "ROBOT"?
Sorry you couldn't do better......shouldn't have
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It shouldn't be about race
But for a lot of people it is. I won't vote for him, but race has nothing to do with it. Interestingly, my 79-year-old aunt thinks we should vote FOR him because of race. She says "Oh, we owe it to them."
Interesting too, I think Obama's commercials have been playing the race card recently - the white one. All of his recent commercials in my area have shown him with his mom and grandparents in cozy home-spun settings.
They should hate this shouldn't they?
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shouldn't have said illegal, but
does all that make you think this election is going to be legitimate? Why, oh why can't people just do things straight up and let the people really be heard. I am sick of the whole thing, and honestly do not believe it really matters who wins either way... they are all politicians
I"m hearing it and why shouldn't they
get money for a bailout? Wall Street and the banks did, but WS and the banks are HOLDING ONTO the money for BONUSES, not to bail themselves out. GM and Chryler need it to KEEP JOBS.
The bailout was wrong in the first place because everyone would want money, but that's the only thing they could come up with at the time. What's done is done but I don't think we ought to keep throwing money out there. NP and Barney Fife are too free with money that's not theirs and they should be thrown out of office.
Shouldn't you be concerned about where
all those millions given to Louisiana to rebuild went to? They went to state park projects in the northern part of the state and then LA governor lost track of where the other millions went to.........
If you're so worried about the residents of NO and want to blame the government for all their woes, maybe you should ask why Mayor Negan had the casinos going full blast the day before the hurricane was due to hit? Why wasn't he getting all his federall funded citizens out of NO? Louisiana has always been a state of corruption much like Illinois and until their citizens demand better, they won't get it! On second thought, with so many criminals ran out of New Orleans, maybe it would be a better place to live!!!! They're probably all back by now though, robbing, stealing, and murdering those those who actually do work for a living....
Shouldn't you have considered all that BEFORE you
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We shouldn't nuke them.
Sheesh...that would be stupid. Once we nuke them, everyone will pull out the nukes and you can kiss our planet good bye. You won't have to worry about co2 emission and going green then.
What should happen is that the UN grow some balls and actually stand up to bullies like this instead of cowering back like they have always done.
What does this tell you about quacks that run other countries? Threatening to nuke us unless we apologize? And you are worried about us waterboarding. Give me a break!!! These are also the psycho freaks Obama wants to have tea and crumpets with to discuss things. What a joke! Good luck with that one Barry.
If the UN apologizes, that gives N. Korea some control and that is what they are wanting. N. Korea is all about making threats to make them look big and bad anyway. We should definitely keep a close eye on them, but we shouldn't bust down the door yet. I personally feel other countries need to step up and carry the big stick for a while. Not only can we not afford another war, but we don't have enough military numbers to do it either. Why can't other countries grow some balls and actually stand up to bullies like this? They always make us do it and then they complain about us. Like the French.....wouldn't they be speaking German if we didn't put our nose in their business and help them?
This man shouldn't be preaching to anyone.
Rev. Wright Says 'Them Jews' Won't Let Obama Talk to Him
The Rev. Jeremiah Wright says he doesn't have any regrets over his severed relationship with President Obama.
FOXNews.com
Wednesday, June 10, 2009
In a racially charged interview, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright said that President Obama hasn't spoken to him since they parted ways last year, because "them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me."
He suggested White House advisers were keeping the two separate.
"Them Jews aren't going to let him talk to me. I told my baby daughter, that he'll talk to me in five years when he's a lame duck, or in eight years when he's out of office," Wright said, according to Virginia's Daily Press. "They will not let him ... talk to somebody who calls a spade what it is."
Obama left Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago last year following the very public controversy over his inflammatory sermons.
Wright sporadically has granted media interviews and made public appearances since. In the Daily Press article, he also claimed that the president did not send a delegation to the recent world racism conference in Geneva for fear of offending Jews.
"Ethnic cleansing is going on in Gaza. Ethnic cleansing of the Zionist is a sin and a crime against humanity, and they don't want Barack talking like that because that's anti-Israel," Wright said.
Wright said he voted for Obama in November and has no regrets over their severed relationship.
"Regret for what ... that the media went back five, seven, 10 years and spent $4,000 buying 20 years worth of sermons to hear what I've been preaching for 20 years?" he said.
It shouldn't be. It's a private decision, not one to
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Not just my job, DH is the major earner. We shouldn't be.
penalized for working hard.
You shouldn't call yourself a dim-witted
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Shouldn't that had been..."stand with the American
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Shouldn't you be more focused on the taxes
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I guess we shouldn't be surprised
I did think ABC would be (at least on the surface) neutral. God forbid they should portray the woman honestly.
The Republicans should have cried foul, but the Dems would just have turned that into sour grapes.
You're right, it shouldn't have been posted.
It was a terrible thing to post and completely stupid.
There wasn't a threat made though, and people post stupid things all the time.
If the FBI is watching for stuff like that, they certainly don't need MT Stars to keep a watch for them.
Yes it was moronic, but I agree with poster above....let's be real here. Moderator made an appropriate decision and removed it. Move on.
Sure they're cheaper. But shouldn't there be
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IMO, Hollywood shouldn't get a cent
of money from the government. That is just wrong. Of all people that deserve money.....it wouldn't be hollywood!
Another group I've heard complain are athletes. They are complaining because sales of tickets are down. Well.....I'm sorry but I think it is absolutely ridiculous that these athletes make as much as they do anyway.....maybe if they would take a pay cut and lower the ticket prices.....maybe more people could afford to go to games.
I live in Indiana and I am a Colts fan but I am thoroughly ticked that they threatened to leave Indiana unless we built them a new stadium. We built them a new stadium at the expense of the taxpayers and the Colts have sucked major butt since then. I would have told them to pack up and leave and not let the door hit them in the butt on the way out. They make WAY too much money to sit around and make demands like that. They could have easily built their own dang stadium....jerks. Just think about all those local people whose property taxes skyrocketed because the colts demanded a new stadium. I wonder how many people in the Indianapolis area lost their homes because they couldn't afford their property tax? Makes me sick.
And why in the world are the Army and the Air Force, etc. sponsoring race cars? They are pretty much taking taxpayer money to pay to sponsor vehicles that costs a butt load of money. That really chaps my ars too. ARGH!
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